Re: How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 12/21/23 14:39, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron  said:

So my question is, is there any sort of software which is similar to
Quick Assist we can install on our Linux laptops so that the Linux
team sysadmins can get access to laptops? I've seen folks on this
list talk about TeamViewer and AnyDesk, but both of those seem to be
paid solutions. Is there any sort of F/OSS solution?


In essence, these solutions are functionally like using a VPN.  The
computer keeps an open connection to a server whenever it can, and that
connection can then be used to allow the server to access the computer.
So you could set up a separate "management" VPN system, like OpenVPN,
that then isolates each client connection (so one user can't access
another user's computer directly across it).  Don't send a default
route, just use an independent RFC1918 (or IPv6 ULA) block from any
other corporate networks.


Yeah, I was looking at things like Nebula for a sort of background VPN 
for systems management, but that looks like overkill.


I may wind up just having a tiny OpenVPN instance in the cloud that 
users can connect to so admins can ssh in or run playbooks over the VPN. 
I was hoping for something less manual, though. With the Windows 
laptops, as soon as folks authenticate to Azure AD, the helpdesk guys 
can just fire up a remote desktop. I'd love something that easy.


I suppose I could set up the laptops so that they log into the VPN at 
boot, that would do the same thing and the staff on the Linux laptops 
wouldn't have to do anything manual. But I don't want to chew up that 
VPN bandwidth if I don't have to.


Thomas
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How can you get remote access to laptops behind a NAT/firewall?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

In my company, we're rolling out Linux laptops to my team. We're 100% 
remote workers, no one even lives in the same state as the headquarters.


If my teammates are logged into the VPN, it's pretty easy to administer 
a team member's laptop - I just ask the user for the IP address and ssh 
in as the service account (with keys, not passwords), or run an Ansible 
playbook against the machine.


For the Windows users (not on my team), our helpdesk uses Quick Assist, 
and IT can remote desktop into anyone who's logged in to the Azure 
Active Directory domain. Even if the person is behind a cable modem 
doing NAT.


So my question is, is there any sort of software which is similar to 
Quick Assist we can install on our Linux laptops so that the Linux team 
sysadmins can get access to laptops? I've seen folks on this list talk 
about TeamViewer and AnyDesk, but both of those seem to be paid 
solutions. Is there any sort of F/OSS solution? I am totally OK with 
hosting a cloud instance as an authentication server or something like 
that. I also heard something about Chrome Remote Desktop. Apparently 
Google does session brokering, so that may be interesting, although 
we're not a Google shop, we're a Microsoft shop and I'm bringing Linux 
in. I'd much prefer a F/OSS solution, if anyone has any advice.


Thanks for any advice!
Thomas
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Re: libvirt / qemu / kvm bridged network

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 12/12/23 20:03, Sbob wrote:

Hi;


I'm running Fedora 39, I have installed qemu / libvirt / kvm


I have found many guides on setting up bridged networking but none have 
worked. Can someone point me to a proper guide?



Thanks in advance
Setting up bridged networking is nowhere near as simple as it was in 
older versions of Linux. I've just about given up doing it from the 
command line.


I install cockpit, start the cockpit.socket service, connect to cockpit 
on port 9090, go to Networking, add a bridge, tell the bridge which 
interface to add, and it Just Works(TM).


Thomas
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Re: Clean install of Fedora 39 on Dell notebook was working, but recent update not getting 50 selerts??

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Actually, that brings up another point, that I don't know if it's still
the case.

When you write a file to a specific place, the SELinux contexts are set
for what's usually expected at that file path.  e.g. Write a page.html
file in your homespace, and it'll get general context that won't be
readable by a webserver.

If you copied that file to another place, the copy will be written with
the expected contexts for that new place.  e.g. If you copied that
page.html to your webserver serving path, the copy will get contexts
that allow it to be web served.

If you moved a file to another place, the original contexts went with
the file.  e.g. Your page.html in your homespace with general purpose
contexts ends up in your webserver serving path still with general
purpose contexts that don't allow it to be served.

That kind of thing caused problems for people who migrated various
kinds of data from one point to another, instead of copying it, or
creating it in the right place to start with.
  


Yup. In the video I linked to earlier, I talk about that problem. It's 
an easy mistake to make. Almost always, the solution is to just 
restorecon -vR the parent directory and you'll see what it was, and what 
it was changed to. Then it starts working.

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Re: Clean install of Fedora 39 on Dell notebook was working, but recent update not getting 50 selerts??

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 12/9/23 07:36, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:

On 9 Dec 2023 at 18:02, Tim wrote:

Subject:Re: Clean install of Fedora 39 on Dell notebook
was working, but
recent update not getting 50 selerts??
From:   Tim 
To: mi...@guam.net, Community support for Fedora
users

Date sent:  Sat, 09 Dec 2023 18:02:43 +1030

Did a dnf reinstall * to see if maybe somethings had installed
before something else. Then reenabled selinux and rebooted.
Originally go then 50 messages again that seemed to be same.
Unfortunately, the setrouble browser has a option to show the 50
messages summary, but I can do a ctrl-a to highlight them all but
ctrl-C does not work to copy them..
Deleted them all. They didn't immediately come back.
Did just get 12 pop up, and these are for sshd and mandb?

last one is mandb
setattr
index.db

SELINUX Alert browser doesn't let on copy top part or if you were
trying part? also doesn't let copy the list of all info??

Does let one copy this part, but have no clue what FILE_TYPE
would be used, or where this index.db file is located?

First 3 are sshd with read, open, getattr all with inactive.mod
Then 9 with mandb with create, write, ioctl, read, open, rename,
unlink, lock, setattr. with 29605, 29605, xscreensaver.1.gz (3
times), 29605, index.db, 29605, index.db.

Did have 2 earlier ones that were with boinc, and talked about
missing selinux type boinc_t??

Since can't copy stuff from here is what would copy for last one?


You need to change the label on index.db
# semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE 'index.db'
where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: boot_t, cert_t, device_t,
dhcpc_state_t, etc_aliases_t, etc_mail_t, etc_runtime_t, faillog_t,
fonts_t, getty_lock_t, httpd_lock_t, initrc_state_t, initrc_tmp_t,
initrc_var_log_t, initrc_var_run_t, ipsec_mgmt_lock_t,
ipsec_var_run_t, iptables_lock_t, krb5_host_rcache_t,
krb5kdc_lock_t, lastlog_t, local_login_lock_t, locale_t, lvm_lock_t,
mnt_t, net_conf_t, postgresql_db_t, postgresql_lock_t,
semanage_read_lock_t, semanage_trans_lock_t, sshd_key_t,
sysctl_fs_t, sysctl_t, system_conf_t, system_dbusd_var_lib_t,
systemd_passwd_var_run_t, udev_rules_t, udev_var_run_t,
user_home_dir_t, user_home_t, var_lib_t, var_lock_t, var_log_t,
var_spool_t, wtmp_t, xdm_lock_t.
Then execute:
restorecon -v 'index.db'


The files should inherit either the label of the directory they're 
created in, or if a specific context has been set for a filename, it 
should get that context.


Normally, if something's incorrectly labeled, you can just restorecon -v 
the file to see what it was changed to. In this example, I created an 
index.html in root's home directory and them moved it to /var/www/html. 
When I restorecon -vR /var/www it shows me what it WAS labeled, and what 
it was changed to:


[root@haproxy ~]# restorecon -vR /var/www/
Relabeled /var/www/html/index.html from 
unconfined_u:object_r:admin_home_t:s0 to 
unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0


So if you're getting errors on mislabeled files, the first bet is to 
just do a restorecon -v on it, or restorecon -vR on the parent directory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WOKRaM-HI4 for a less than 45 minute 
lesson on the basics of SELinux.


If you're running something which was compiled from source, for 
instance, it may not understand what SELinux label it's supposed to 
have, or even just not understand SELinux.


You might want to set the app to run unconfined. Description on how to 
do this is here: 
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/selinux_users_and_administrators_guide/index#sect-Security-Enhanced_Linux-Targeted_Policy-Unconfined_Processes


Hope this is helpful.

Thomas
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Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 12/2/23 15:14, Andras Simon wrote:

Why not remove just kernel-core? dnf will take care of the dependent
packages (kernel-modules and the rest).


Removing kernel-core totally makes sense.

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Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

[Thomas Cameron via users]

Here's what I do. It's on RHEL, but the process is the same for Fedora.

First, find all kernels which are installed.The last one is the latest, 
so we ignore that one.


--
[root@neuromancer ~]# rpm -qa kernel | sort
kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-362.8.1.el9_3.x86_64
--

Grab the version number for the oldest two and use that to find all 
related packages installed on my machine:


--
[root@neuromancer ~]# rpm -qa | grep -e 5.14.0-284.25.1 -e 5.14.0-284.30.1
kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64
--

Now remove all the RPMs with those version numbers. This is all one long 
command:


--
[root@neuromancer ~]# dnf remove 
kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64

Updating Subscription Management repositories.
Dependencies resolved.

 Package  Arch   Version   Repository 
   Size


Removing:
 kernel   x86_64 5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms   0
 kernel   x86_64 5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms   0
 kernel-core  x86_64 5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms  56 M
 kernel-core  x86_64 5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms  56 M

 kernel-modules
  x86_64 5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms  33 M

 kernel-modules
  x86_64 5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms  33 M

 kernel-modules-core
  x86_64 5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms  31 M

 kernel-modules-core
  x86_64 5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2 
@rhel-9-for-x86_64-baseos-rpms  31 M


Transaction Summary

Remove  8 Packages

Freed space: 240 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
  Preparing: 
1/1
  Erasing  : kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
1/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
1/8
  Erasing  : kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
2/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
2/8
  Erasing  : kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
3/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
3/8
  Erasing  : kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
4/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
4/8
  Erasing  : kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
5/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
5/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
6/8
/usr/sbin/weak-modules: line 1086: cd: 
/lib/modules/5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64/weak-updates: No such file or 
directory


  Erasing  : kernel-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
6/8
warning: file 
/lib/modules/5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64/modules.builtin.modinfo: 
remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /lib/modules/5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64/modules.builtin: 
remove failed: No such file or directory


  Running scriptlet: kernel-core-5.14.0-284.30.1.el9_2.x86_64 
6/8
  Erasing  : kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
7/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-modules-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
7/8
  Running scriptlet: kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
8/8
/usr/sbin/weak-modules: line 1086: cd: 
/lib/modules/5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64/weak-updates: No such file or 
directory


  Erasing  : kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
8/8
warning: file 
/lib/modules/5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64/modules.builtin.modinfo: 
remove failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /lib/modules/5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64/modules.builtin: 
remove failed: No such file or directory


  Running scriptlet: kernel-core-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
8/8
  Verifying: kernel-5.14.0-284.25.1.el9_2.x86_64 
1/8
  Verifying: 

Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 11/7/23 01:46, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:

Though I do have imap available on my mail server if I ever want to use it.


That's your answer, bud. POP is ancient and crufty, and as others have 
said, different mail servers do different, often weird, things to the 
messages.


Switch to IMAP, it'll be a lot easier for you, I promise.

Thomas
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Re: docker and iptables

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 10/20/23 11:42, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 10/20/2023 01:39 AM, jdow wrote:
I bet something as simple as "horsehair" is far enough down the guess 
list that the probability of a successful attack is out at way more 
time than I have life left. When you can put time on your side life's 
great.


I used to house sit for Jerry Pournelle, and you might consider 
something like his WiFi password: ThisIsAVeryLongPassword

pwgen 16 -cnys
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Re: Creating a bridge

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On 8/14/23 20:54, Alex wrote:

Hi,
I've just installed fedora38 over my previous fedora install but didn't 
save my network config that included a bridge to allow for local IPs for 
my virtual machines. Is there a network tool that I can use to create a 
bridge so I can then use the bridge option with virt-manager to assign 
IPs to my Win10 virtual machine?


I'm used to doing the old-school network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 stuff by 
hand, but realize that doesn't exist anymore.


Perhaps someone has a basic /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections 
bridge config they could paste here to get me started or the proper 
nmcli commands I need?


I suppose I could probably also use NAT, but I'd rather have my gateway 
doing the NAT.


# ip addr
1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
group default qlen 1000

     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
     inet 127.0.0.1/8  scope host lo
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
     inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp4s0:  mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel 
state UP group default qlen 1000

     link/ether c8:7f:54:cd:b7:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.1.7/24  brd 192.168.1.255 scope 
global dynamic noprefixroute enp4s0

        valid_lft 31976sec preferred_lft 31976sec
     inet6 fe80::ca7f:54ff:fecd:b7bc/64 scope link noprefixroute
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: wlo1:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue 
state DOWN group default qlen 1000
     link/ether 4a:d4:02:42:a2:2e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff permaddr 
2c:3b:70:47:ce:08

     altname wlp5s0
4: virbr0:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue 
state DOWN group default qlen 1000

     link/ether 52:54:00:c8:a0:df brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.122.1/24  brd 192.168.122.255 
scope global virbr0

        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

Thanks,
Alex
If you have cockpit installed, fire up your browser and go to the 
networking section. Choose to create a bridge, associate the interface 
you want attached to the bridge, and it will set it all up for you.


Otherwise, the nmcli steps outlined will do it for you. I find it a lot 
easier to just use cockpit. Literally a couple of clicks and it creates 
the bridge, attaches the interface, and you don't have to remember the 
crazy nmcli syntax.


But I'm lazy, so take it for what it's worth. ;-)

Thomas
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/30/23 21:45, John Mellor wrote:

On 2023-07-30 17:39, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:

On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen 
since the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or 
Thunderbird issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in 
upper left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at 
first. Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future 
versions will be usable. 


You don't mention what GUI is installed.  Assuming that you are using 
the default Wayland and not X, per a recommendation from one of the 
Fedora people, I installed thunderbird-wayland package and then 
changed the app startup to use thunderbird-wayland instead of just 
thunderbird.  There is a very long pause before thunderbird comes up, 
and then it just works.  Mention was also made of this fix being 
merged at a later date.


I have no idea why thunderbird and not thunderbird-wayland is in the 
software app list.  You have to do the install from CLI because of 
this secondary foulup.


I apologize, I should have been more clear. In my case, I use Xfce. I am 
not using Wayland, I am using plain old X11:


[thomas.cameron@case Desktop]$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
x11

I have to use the NVidia drivers, so I've shied away from Wayland.

Thomas
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Re: Since F38 Upgrade, Thunderbird Opens as Tiny, Postage Stamp

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On 7/29/23 08:55, Tim Evans wrote:
Should have asked about this sooner, as it's something I've seen since 
the very first F38 upgrade. Not sure if this is Fedora or Thunderbird 
issue.


When Thunderbird opens, it does so postage-stamp size, way up in upper 
left hand corner of window, so small I almost missed it at first. 
Right-clicking "maximize" restores it to full screen display.


I see this with apps like LibreOffice. I have to click on it several 
times until I hit it just right to expand the window. I don't have a 
solution, but if you click on it *just right* you can get the window 
resize pointer to come up, then resize the window, and future versions 
will be usable.


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Re: xfce4 desktop problem

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On 7/5/23 13:02, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Running xfce4 desktop on f38 terminal the desktop windows have lost 
the window bar at the top. Can't reposition open windows.


They are fine if I switch to LXDE or kde. What part of xfce needs to 
be reinstalled?


The nuclear option is to boot to run level 3 or log in as another user 
and delete the following directories:


rm -rf /home/yourname/.cache/xfce4
rm -rf /home/yourname/.config/xfce4
rm -rf /home/yourname/.local/share/xfce4

Then when you log back in, xfce4 will start up with the default settings.

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Re: What causes mailing list bounce?

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On 6/19/23 14:39, Chris Adams wrote:


I think it only does the rewrite for p=reject and p=quarantine, not
p=none, since by definition, p=none is for monitoring.  If you don't
want to monitor, then don't set DMARC or set a policy that would require
rewrites.
ISTR that I was getting tons of reports before I went to p=none. Is 
there a way to make sure that my emails to the list server aren't 
getting rejected by third parties? That is why I wound up changing it to 
p=none.


I guess I can change it to quarantine and test it with my gmail account 
or something.

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DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

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All -

I've tested my DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records against multiple test sites, 
and it's set up correctly. I've sent email from my server to GMail, read 
the headers, and all tests pass.


The problem is, as far as I can tell, EVERY server that sends mail to 
mailing lists causes me to get a barrage of warnings from receivers' 
email servers saying that, since the email came from the list server, 
the message failed because it's not from MY email server. It's maddening.


What do folks who manage email servers do about this? I'm seriously 
starting to think that using these tools introduce darned near as many 
problems as they "solve." Talk me off the ledge?


I am working through maybe tuning my settings, using the DMARCLY wizard. 
I see that I am probably setting some things too strict, especially 
around DMARC, but... Dang, this is frustrating.


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Re: How to create a Fedora 37 image for AWS

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I'd love to! I'll ping you off-list. I use Fedora servers in my home 
lab, using file and print services (NFS and Samba for home directories) 
on one HPE Proliant server, a firewall behind my cable modem, 
virtualization on an HPE Proliant hypervisor with 384GB memory, mail 
services in the cloud using Fedora and Sendmail (yeah, I'm old) on 
Fedora instances on the west coast and the east coast at AWS, and so on. 
I even did oVirt and Katello in my home lab for a long time, although I 
consolidated and don't do that any more.


I would love to write articles for Fedora!

Thomas

On 2/27/23 00:45, Peter Boy wrote:



Am 25.02.2023 um 16:19 schrieb Thomas Cameron via users 
:

Honestly, this was just me nerding out and having fun, and I wanted to share it 
in case anyone else wanted to do the same.


Thats perfectly OK. That's what FOSS is for - among other things.

I would be happy if you would contribute your experiences to our Fedora Server 
documentation [1]. I myself am working on an article in which I have collected 
my experiences in creating Fedora Server Edition KVM [2]. It would be great and 
inspirational to have another tutorial on another case, here then Amazon Cloud.

You don't need to concern yourself with the details of page creation using 
AsciiDoc, etc. A simple text file would be fine. The transfer could be done by 
someone from the WG. The effort is then kept within limits.

And by the way: We would be very happy if you would contribute your further 
experiences with Fedora Server Edition or your ideas for improvement. :-)


[1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/

[2] 
https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/tutorials/imagefactory/






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Re: How to create a Fedora 37 image for AWS

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 2/25/23 06:21, Peter Boy wrote:



Am 25.02.2023 um 00:23 schrieb Thomas Cameron via users 
:

Hey, all! I work for AWS, and I put together a quick HOWTO on setting up a 
Fedora 37 instance using KVM, and then converting it to a format that can be 
used to create a new EC2 instance on AWS. Note that this is a personal project, 
is not endorsed by AWS, and was not produced by AWS. It’s just me.

https://camerontech.com/fedora-aws/

I am not a web guy, I just did a super basic HTML page using Seahorse. It’s 
literally something I threw together, and I am sure I missed some things, but I 
hope that it is helpful for anyone who wants to build their own image. I know 
there are a bunch of images already out there in the community, but I wanted to 
document how to do it for yourself.

I hope you find it helpful!

The first questions that comes into my mind: why not use cloud image for 
Amazon? It’s not Fedora Server, but something alike. But that is your kickstart 
as well. Or use the generic cloud image, which includes cloud-init, and adjust 
that?

And just in case you whish to provide a (real) Fedora Server, why don’t you use 
the provided KVM image and add some specifics apps using e.g. guestfish on the 
image (as described in the Fedora Server documentation)? Or use the kickstart 
from Fedora repository and add some specific apps to it?

I’m just curious, no criticism. I created the KVM image and know about the 
difficulties and peculiarities using kickstart and imagefactory.


Thanks for the response! I could have, and probably should have, used 
Amazon EC2 Image Builder (https://aws.amazon.com/image-builder/), but I 
wanted to understand all the steps myself. And I specifically wanted the 
Fedora server build. This was mostly a thought exercise/learning 
experience thing, to be honest. I hoped that it would be helpful in case 
anyone else wanted to understand all the steps. Pure learning exercise.


I had to look all over the web to find the right steps to build my own 
image and make it work. There were some things I had to find on Red 
Hat's web site, other things I needed to figure out from the AWS web 
site, and some trial and error things because there was stuff that 
weren't clearly documented or intuitive/obvious (like the recent change 
that S3 buckets require encryption).


Honestly, this was just me nerding out and having fun, and I wanted to 
share it in case anyone else wanted to do the same.


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How to create a Fedora 37 image for AWS

[Thomas Cameron via users]

Hey, all! I work for AWS, and I put together a quick HOWTO on setting up 
a Fedora 37 instance using KVM, and then converting it to a format that 
can be used to create a new EC2 instance on AWS. Note that this is a 
personal project, is not endorsed by AWS, and was not produced by AWS. 
It’s just me.


https://camerontech.com/fedora-aws/

I am not a web guy, I just did a super basic HTML page using Seahorse. 
It’s literally something I threw together, and I am sure I missed some 
things, but I hope that it is helpful for anyone who wants to build 
their own image. I know there are a bunch of images already out there in 
the community, but I wanted to document how to do it for yourself.


I hope you find it helpful!

--
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Weird multiple display issue

[Thomas Cameron via users]

Howdy -

I have a multi monitor machine. The displays are set up like this:

+ + +
+

So I have three large monitors and a smaller tablet below the far right 
monitor.


The weird thing is, it seems like the desktop THINKS my screen looks 
like this:


+ + +
+ + +

So what happens is, when I do something like use a background image 
across multiple monitors, it stretches it so that half the image shows 
up on my top three monitors, and about a third of the bottom of the 
image shows up on my small monitor down to the right.


Also, and this is the real problem, when I choose to rearrange my 
desktop icons, it distributes them across the left side of my left 
monitor and down across the nonexistent left bottom screen it seems to 
think is there. So my desktop icons disappear. About half of them appear 
to be placed under the leftmost monitor, but there's no monitor under 
that top monitor.


I've posted pix of what my desktop looks like, and what I see when I 
capture a screenshot. https://imgur.com/a/gUBsgML


In the screenshot, I have Chrome maximized on all four physical screens. 
As you can see from the screenshot, there is empty virtual desktop space 
below the left and center physical screens. You can see that my desktop 
icons are in that empty space. But I can't see them on the physical screens.


Anyone know how to fix this so that my desktop icons don't disappear off 
the bottom of my screen?


Thanks!
Thomas
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Re: cron.weekly

[Thomas Cameron via users]

You can do this as root or via sudo:

cd /tmp
nohup /etc/cron.weekly/myfile &

You can then close the window. As I understand it, nohup detaches the process 
from the controlling terminal. See https://phoenixnap.com/kb/linux-nohup for 
details.

Thomas


On 1/20/23 16:24, Patrick Dupre wrote:

OK,

Thank, but I wanted to run it in background, and be able to close the windows.


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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:30 PM
From: "Thomas Cameron via users" 
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Cc: "Thomas Cameron" 
Subject: Re: cron.weekly

On 1/20/23 14:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I would like to run cron.weekly from a line command immediately.
How can I do it ?

If the script is /etc/cron.weekly/myfile, then just run

/etc/cron.daily/myfile

as root or via sudo.

Thomas
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Re: cron.weekly

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 1/20/23 14:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I would like to run cron.weekly from a line command immediately.
How can I do it ?


If the script is /etc/cron.weekly/myfile, then just run

/etc/cron.daily/myfile

as root or via sudo.

Thomas
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Re: No sound after update

[Thomas Cameron via users]

And if this is a kernel issue, how is it that it didn't take a kernel
update to cause it?  It was working before the update with the same
kernel, why would it stop?  Strange.


It may have been a perfect storm of e.g. a previous kernel upgrade which 
introduced a condition that a later audio or firmware upgrade triggered.


There are a BUNCH of things which can affect audio. A weird combo could 
have brought some odd issue that caused the problem. It looks like the 
kernel team is aware of the issue, and I expect it either has been, or 
will soon be fixed, according to "ja" who posted on this thread.


If not, please file bugzilla reports at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/. 
See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/howto-file-a-bug/ 
for details.


Thomas
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/12/22 16:28, Grumpey wrote:

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 11:22 AM Thomas Cameron via users
 wrote:


I have. It doesn't stick between reboots.


Are you using wireplumber?
I referenced https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/WirePlumber#Disable_a_device/node
when I disabled my camera microphone.


Thank you very much, that worked!

Thomas
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/12/22 16:28, Grumpey wrote:

Are you using wireplumber?
I referencedhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/title/WirePlumber#Disable_a_device/node
when I disabled my camera microphone.


I think so:

[thomas.cameron@case Desktop]$ ps axfw | grep plumb
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

I have. It doesn't stick between reboots.

On 9/12/22 10:07, Alex Gurenko wrote:

Why don't you just disable microphones on Brio all together?

---
Best regards, Alex


--- Original Message ---
On Monday, September 12th, 2022 at 16:50, Thomas Cameron via users 
 wrote:



On 9/9/22 14:56, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:


I have two mics, one on my Brio web camera, and one on my motherboard.
Every time I boot up, the Brio mic is selected, and I have to manually
go in and tell the audio mixer that I want the onboard mic to be used.
Sometimes I forget, join a WebEx or similar, and they are hearing me
through my Brio, and that mic SUCKS compared to the one I have plugged
in to the onboard sound card. I've set the onboard mic to be the default
more times than I can remember, but when it reboots, the Brio mic is
selected again. This is driving me nuts!

What on Earth do I need to do to make the onboard sound card mic be the
main/only one used?

I am using Xfce, if that matters. When I fire up the mixer, it's using
pavucontrol.

If it matters, I have upgraded this system from F33 through F36.


Anyone got any insight? Is there a way to tell Fedora 36 a permanent way
to stop using my crappy Brio mic?

Thomas
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Re: Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/9/22 14:56, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
I have two mics, one on my Brio web camera, and one on my motherboard. 
Every time I boot up, the Brio mic is selected, and I have to manually 
go in and tell the audio mixer that I want the onboard mic to be used. 
Sometimes I forget, join a WebEx or similar, and they are hearing me 
through my Brio, and that mic SUCKS compared to the one I have plugged 
in to the onboard sound card. I've set the onboard mic to be the default 
more times than I can remember, but when it reboots, the Brio mic is 
selected again. This is driving me nuts!


What on Earth do I need to do to make the onboard sound card mic be the 
main/only one used?


I am using Xfce, if that matters. When I fire up the mixer, it's using 
pavucontrol.


If it matters, I have upgraded this system from F33 through F36.
Anyone got any insight? Is there a way to tell Fedora 36 a permanent way 
to stop using my crappy Brio mic?


Thomas
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Fedora 36: How do I tell sound to NEVER use a mic?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

I have two mics, one on my Brio web camera, and one on my motherboard. 
Every time I boot up, the Brio mic is selected, and I have to manually 
go in and tell the audio mixer that I want the onboard mic to be used. 
Sometimes I forget, join a WebEx or similar, and they are hearing me 
through my Brio, and that mic SUCKS compared to the one I have plugged 
in to the onboard sound card. I've set the onboard mic to be the default 
more times than I can remember, but when it reboots, the Brio mic is 
selected again. This is driving me nuts!


What on Earth do I need to do to make the onboard sound card mic be the 
main/only one used?


I am using Xfce, if that matters. When I fire up the mixer, it's using 
pavucontrol.


If it matters, I have upgraded this system from F33 through F36.

Thanks!
Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/2/22 16:56, Ian Pilcher wrote:

On 9/2/22 14:11, Felix Miata wrote:
It doesn't have to use only Radeon drivers. Try removing the 
ATI/Radeon Xorg
driver rpm (xorg-x11-drv-ati). That will cause it to fallback to the 
newer
technology, upstream default, "modesetting" DIX display driver, along 
with the

radeon kernel driver, and I think r600 Mesa DRI driver.


Trying that now.  Results seem positive thus far.


I'm super curious if that weird "outline only window" thing pops up 
again. I've noticed it across multiple distros and video cards, never 
heard anyone else have it.


Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/2/22 15:05, Ian Pilcher wrote:

On 9/2/22 13:46, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:

Hey, Ian! Good to see you, hope you're well!


Same here!  (IIRC, you were the person who recommended the FirePro V4900
to me back in the day.)
I think that's right! I loved mine, and it lasted for a LONG time. Yours 
has lasted longer, though! 
Are you using DVI monitors? The RX550 will do what you need, but the 
WX 2100, 3100, or 3200 will all do three or more DisplayPort monitors 
if you're using DisplayPort, and use native drivers.


The 2 1920x1200 displays have DVI and DisplayPort inputs (no HDMI).  The
2K display has DVI, DisplayPort, and HDMI, but the HDMI input only
supports an older standard (1.4?), and it doesn't seem to work well at
2560x1440, 60Hz.

If I purchased something like this[1], I would use the DisplayPort
output for the 2K display, the DVI output for one of the 1920x1220
displays, and the HDMI output (with either a dongle or an HDMI-DVI
cable) for the other 1920x1200 display.

This would allow me to use at least 2 of my existing cables.  (If you
recall, my case is positioned a fair distance away from my displays, so
cables can be somewhat expensive.)

[1] 
https://www.amazon.com/RX-550-Computer-Graphics-DisplayPort/dp/B08VHWFWSD/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2R1Q7GZ9GKK12=maxsun+amd+radeon+rx+550+4gb=1662148616=maxsun+amd+rade%2Caps%2C77=8-3


I do remember! Yeah, your idea makes more sense. And that card is priced 
really well! Hard to go wrong with an AMD card. As mentioned on another 
response, the native drivers are pretty stellar. I really regret having 
bought the NVidia card I have now, it's something of a pain to keep up 
with the drivers. The RPM Fusion akmod drivers have been very, very 
solid, though, so it's bearable. Next big system I build will absolutely 
use an AMD video card. NVidia kinda sucks with Linux.


Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

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On 9/2/22 11:44, Ian Pilcher wrote:

[1] The glitch takes the form of the contents of new windows not being
    shown, only the frame.  It only seems to happen with Gtk apps,
    primarily Thunderbird.  I've tried futzing around with the Xorg
    acceleration settings, and I've been able to reduce but not
    eliminate the problem.


I've been seeing some weird X glitches similar to this a lot lately, 
both on a corporate laptop that runs Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS with Intel video 
and also a Fedora 36 workstation running with NVidia drivers with a 
Geforce RTX 2080 Super. Same thing. Click on a Thunderbird message and I 
just see the outline of the message until I click on it or move the 
window a little.


I am not sure the issue you are seeing is 100% related to the video card 
or old driver. It's worse on the Ubuntu/Intel machine but I definitely 
also see it on the Fedora/NVidia machine with Thunderbird.


Thomas
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Re: Looking for a GPU that "just works" - Is RX550 a good choice?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 9/2/22 11:44, Ian Pilcher wrote:

I'm currently using an old ATI FirePro V4900 to run my 3 displays -
1x 2K and 2x 1920x1200.  I've been seeing glitches in some Gtk
applications for a while now (running on Plasma X11), and I'm getting
pretty tired of them.[1]  This card uses the old radeon driver, so I'm
thinking that it might be time to bite the bullet and move to something
a bit more modern.

I do not do any gaming.  I simply want to be able to run my preferred
desktop (Plasma) with compositing and a few effects turned on.

NVIDIA is out, because of the "just works" requirement, so I'm looking
at AMD options.  Is the RX550 a good choice for my use case?

Thanks!

[1] The glitch takes the form of the contents of new windows not being
    shown, only the frame.  It only seems to happen with Gtk apps,
    primarily Thunderbird.  I've tried futzing around with the Xorg
    acceleration settings, and I've been able to reduce but not
    eliminate the problem.


Hey, Ian! Good to see you, hope you're well!

Are you using DVI monitors? The RX550 will do what you need, but the WX 
2100, 3100, or 3200 will all do three or more DisplayPort monitors if 
you're using DisplayPort, and use native drivers.


Thomas
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Re: strange ip address reported by nftables

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On 8/19/22 15:33, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

This morning, logwatch reported this in the iptables section:

Logged 99 packets on interface enp3s0
.
From 10.91.96.218 - 6 packets to udp(54366)

How, this IP address could be logged on my private network (which is 
192.168.1.0)?


I miss something

Thank you for clarification.

I recently read about some wifi routers which support WPA and can 
actually be connected to by random devices.


Here's an article about it. I am not positive that's what happened here, 
but it could be some random device that connected to your WPA enabled 
wifi device. It might have had that weird RFC 1918 address 
(10.91.96.218) and it spilled into your network.


https://appuals.com/fix-unknown-strange-devices-showing-network/

Thomas
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Re: WebEx client no longer works on Fedora 36

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/29/22 10:29, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

Dear friends,

Does anyone still have the official Cisco WebEx linux client  work with Fedora 
36? It used to  work fine a month or so ago, but has not worked for me for the 
last two weeks (at least). Specifically, what happens is that the client opens 
up all right, but then when I either start or join meeting, the window tries to 
start and then everything comes crashing down.

I am not sure what the problem is, and there are no error messages at
  all, but I was wondering if anyone had
  similar experiences and, more importantly, knew how to fix this
  issue. I am updated to the latest July version of WebEx and F36 (but
  for emacs, but that is not relevant).

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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WebEx stopped supporting the WebEx client for Fedora some time ago. I 
just use the web browser plugin and it works just fine.


https://help.webex.com/en-us/article/9vstcdb/Webex-App-for-Linux
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qm7d1s/webex_on_fedora_35_no_longer_working/

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Re: How do I ask dnf for the current revision of Wine, when ...

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On 7/1/22 19:50, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


I am afraid to take the exclusion out as if Wine
gets accidentally upgrade to 7.0 and I have
no downgrade, it will take my business down. 


Totally fair point. Not trying to tell you how to run your system. I was 
just suggesting *a* way that might work. Sorry if I came across bossy.


Cheers,
Thomas
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Re: How do I ask dnf for the current revision of Wine, when ...

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 7/1/22 17:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Due to this bug:

   https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52586

I have Wine updates excluded from /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.



Take the exclusion out. Run "yum list wine*" and see if the update has 
made it out. I just checked on my F36 box, and it's still at 7.10, which 
I think has the bug in it.


You can add the exclusion back into dnf.conf if you like. Or, you can 
run dnf like this to exclude it:


dnf --exclude=wine* update

or something similar.

I may not be understanding what you're asking, sorry if I'm off base.

Thomas
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Re: Anyone use spf and dmarc and dkim?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 6/18/22 02:20, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

  > What is the misconfiguration that you are saying I have?

Using "-all" or "~all" in your SPF configuration.  They are saying
"reject mail whose last hop source IP isn't explicitly authorized",
with "~all" being less strict but any receiver is within their rights
to reject (for example, you probably want your bank and your customers
to do so, right?)  If you use "?all" (or no "all" at all), you're
saying "you can trust mail direct from my server to be me, but
sometimes I send indirect mail, so use your best judgment if it's not
direct from my server."


OK, I've changed the spf to ?all and we'll see if that works.

Thanks.

--
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Re: Anyone use spf and dmarc and dkim?

[Thomas Cameron via users]

On 6/17/22 11:50, Thomas Cameron wrote:

On 6/17/22 11:16, Thomas Cameron wrote:
Yeah, I changed it to soft fail (~all) instead of -all before. Also, 
to be clear, I only added the list server address for testing 
purposes. I wouldn't leave it that way. I was just trying to figure 
out why I was getting errors and how I could fix them.


But my point is, setting up spf works as expected. I've verified it 
via my emails to known correctly configured mail servers like GMail. 
What I don't understand is why, when it is apparently set up 
correctly, are there mail servers which throw errors when I send 
email through a mailing list. Is it a misconfiguration of the mailing 
list? Is it a misconfiguration of the receivers?


I mean, setting up spf isn't rocket science. There are tons of 
tutorials, and I am reasonably certain it's set up correctly since my 
emails come through with PASS ratings when I check them via e.g. 
GMail. Why are they failing when I send them through an email list 
server? What is the misconfiguration that you are saying I have?


And here's what I get every time I post to this list. It's a small 
handful of mail servers that send me what appears to be incorrect 
errors because the ip address of the Fedora mail server is different 
from my mail server. I think it's stale DNS data now, since I've 
changed the TXT record.


https://imgur.com/a/AdQ9Y18

Hopefully I've nailed it down. I've stripped some weird/extraneous stuff 
out of the TXT entries in DNS and gone to the bare minimum. I'll see if 
I get bounces when I send this.


Thomas
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