Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Richard Ibbotson]

On Saturday 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> opinions.
> 
> Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to
> recommend?

I use a Samsung ML-1510 laser printer and a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 
5224 all in one. Works for me.  You can get these HP printers second 
hand from eBay at sensible prices in good condition.   The HP all in 
one software works great on Fedora.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=uk&lc=en&product=5218822

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[fedora]

Hi Patrick
I lately bought a Samsung CLX 3305. This is a color laser printer, 
scanner, copier. I donloaded the corresponding driver from Samsung, and 
all is working like a charm, including scanning via xsane.
My CLX 3305, however, is not on the LAN but on USB at a workstation. And 
it is not a fast machine, that not. But from the functionality point of 
view: with the Samsung Driver: no problem.


suomi

On 03/15/2014 02:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)

The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
opinions.

Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?

poc


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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 14:02 +, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> On Saturday 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> > unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> > opinions.
> > 
> > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to
> > recommend?
> 
> I use a Samsung ML-1510 laser printer and a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 
> 5224 all in one. Works for me.  You can get these HP printers second 
> hand from eBay at sensible prices in good condition.   The HP all in 
> one software works great on Fedora.

I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite
never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour cartridges
all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is why I decided to switch.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 15:21 +0100, fedora wrote:
> I lately bought a Samsung CLX 3305. This is a color laser printer, 
> scanner, copier. I donloaded the corresponding driver from Samsung,
> and 
> all is working like a charm, including scanning via xsane.
> My CLX 3305, however, is not on the LAN but on USB at a workstation.
> And 
> it is not a fast machine, that not. But from the functionality point
> of 
> view: with the Samsung Driver: no problem.

Good to know but I'm not keen on paying for colour cartridges I don't
need. Also the complaints I've seen relate to scanning not working over
the network (with the M2070W).

[Remember not to top-post on this list, thanks]

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Fred Smith]

On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 01:45:31PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
> and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
> 
> The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> opinions.
> 
> Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?
> 
> poc

I'm using a Brother DCP7065DN at home, and it seems to work well with
Linux, BUT you have to use Brother's drivers for it. The driver recommended
by the RH printer tool didn't work for me.

I've printed to it from Centos 6.5, Fedora 19, and Fedora 20, so far.
I've used the scanner portion only from Centos, so far, where it did
work.

this model offers printer duplexing, but no FAX. Which is fine with
me, I'd rather save paper than have a FAX that I might use once 
over the lifetime of the device. There is a similar-looking model
(MFC7360N) with FAX but no duplexing, should you need FAX.

BTW, it has wired networking only.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Richard Ibbotson]

On Saturday 15 Mar 2014 14:38:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 14:02 +, Richard Ibbotson wrote: 
> > I use a Samsung ML-1510 laser printer and a Hewlett-Packard
> > Photosmart 5224 all in one. Works for me.  You can get these HP
> > printers second hand from eBay at sensible prices in good
> > condition.   The HP all in one software works great on Fedora.
> 
> I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that
> despite never printing in colour I would still have to replace
> colour cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is why I
> decided to switch.

Yes.  Printers. Cleverly designed to waste resources.  I find the 
ML-1510 is great for prinitng back & white.  The HP printer does waste 
cartridges but I mostly use it for scanning and copying and printing 
photographs.  Plenty of recycled cartridges on eBay at low cost.  I 
have a local printer recycling shop who take the old cartridges. 

The Samsung colour laser printers are also excellent.  Plenty of those 
on eBay.  Also many recycled laser cartridges.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite
> never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour
> cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is why I decided
> to switch. 

I used to have a HP, and a Canon, that both did that.  After the Canon
clogged up, I decided I'd stick with laser printers, only.

It occurred to me, later on, that I probably should have pulled the
colour ink tanks out, soaked them in water overnight, just to keep the
moisture sensor fooled into thinking there was still ink in the tanks.

Inkjets are a huge money waster.  Tiny, expensive, ink tanks.  They dry
out without use.  They go through more than half of their ink in
repetitive cleaning cycles (if you rarely ever print in colour, if you
did print in colour, that proportion would be less, as you'd actually be
using some of that ink).  And you have continual head clogs, some of
which just will not clear.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tom Horsley]

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?

HP doesn't advertise it, but pretty much all the HP all-in-one
devices have good linux support (though I'm not sure if HP makes
any laser all-in-one boxes, they may all be inkjet).
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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:48 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to
> recommend?
> 
> HP doesn't advertise it, but pretty much all the HP all-in-one
> devices have good linux support (though I'm not sure if HP makes
> any laser all-in-one boxes, they may all be inkjet).

Yes, I know about HP support. I don't know of any laser all-in-ones
though.

poc

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 01:45:31PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
> > and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
> > 
> > The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> > unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> > opinions.
> > 
> > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?
> > 
> > poc
> 
> I'm using a Brother DCP7065DN at home, and it seems to work well with
> Linux, BUT you have to use Brother's drivers for it. The driver recommended
> by the RH printer tool didn't work for me.
> 
> I've printed to it from Centos 6.5, Fedora 19, and Fedora 20, so far.
> I've used the scanner portion only from Centos, so far, where it did
> work.
> 
> this model offers printer duplexing, but no FAX. Which is fine with
> me, I'd rather save paper than have a FAX that I might use once 
> over the lifetime of the device. There is a similar-looking model
> (MFC7360N) with FAX but no duplexing, should you need FAX.

I'm considering Brother as well. I don't care about FAX, though not
having wireless networking would be a point against. I'll check them out
and see if they have a wireless version.

poc

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 01:45 +1030, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> > I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite
> > never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour
> > cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is why I decided
> > to switch. 
> 
> I used to have a HP, and a Canon, that both did that.  After the Canon
> clogged up, I decided I'd stick with laser printers, only.
> 
> It occurred to me, later on, that I probably should have pulled the
> colour ink tanks out, soaked them in water overnight, just to keep the
> moisture sensor fooled into thinking there was still ink in the tanks.
> 
> Inkjets are a huge money waster.  Tiny, expensive, ink tanks.  They dry
> out without use.  They go through more than half of their ink in
> repetitive cleaning cycles (if you rarely ever print in colour, if you
> did print in colour, that proportion would be less, as you'd actually be
> using some of that ink).  And you have continual head clogs, some of
> which just will not clear.

Amen to all that. And many of them use an in-cartridge chip to foil
aftermarket suppliers. Urban legend is that inkjet cartridges cost more
per litre than the finest champagne.

poc

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[g]

On 03/15/14 19:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)

The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
opinions.

Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?


i never have and never will recommend any 'all-in-one'.

regardless of what brand you get, something you should consider about
'all-in-one', what happens when you lose power supply? all is lost.

as for recommendation, get individual units. way less expensive to
replace/repair when they break.

granted, you will pay more for individual units, but less expensive
to replace if you have to.

as for type of printer, laser does give better quality.

for scanner, go with a 'legal' size.


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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:32 +0600, g wrote:
> 
> On 03/15/14 19:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
> > and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
> >
> > The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> > unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> > opinions.
> >
> > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?
> 
> i never have and never will recommend any 'all-in-one'.
> 
> regardless of what brand you get, something you should consider about
> 'all-in-one', what happens when you lose power supply? all is lost.

I repair it or replace it, same as anything.

> as for recommendation, get individual units. way less expensive to
> replace/repair when they break.

But take up at least twice the space and need another power socket. If I
was scanning every day I would consider it, but it's only for very
occasional use.

> granted, you will pay more for individual units, but less expensive
> to replace if you have to.

And more if I don't. I frankly doubt that this is a determining factor
for the typical home user, i.e. me.

> as for type of printer, laser does give better quality.
> 
> for scanner, go with a 'legal' size.

I'm in Europe, so A4 is the size I need.

poc

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Paul Cartwright]

On 03/15/2014 09:45 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
> and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
>
> The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> opinions.
>
 I only have a Samsung CLP-315W color laser printer, but the Samsung
Smartpanel, and the Samsung Unified driver both installed & worked
perfectly with fedora 20.. I just moved from Debian, so I wasn't even
sure it would work. I am so happy!!
I would totally recommend a Samsung color laser printer in place of an
inkjet.. you will NOT be sorry!

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Fred Erickson]

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 16:20:26 +
Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:48 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to
> > recommend?
> > 
> > HP doesn't advertise it, but pretty much all the HP all-in-one
> > devices have good linux support (though I'm not sure if HP makes
> > any laser all-in-one boxes, they may all be inkjet).
> 
> Yes, I know about HP support. I don't know of any laser all-in-ones
> though.
> 
> poc
> 

I have the HP Laser Jet Pro CM1415fnw Color MFP. This machine works
fine for me for home/small office use but would not be suitable for an
office where several people would use it. The paper tray only holds
about a 1/2in or so of paper and it prints rather slowly.

I hardly ever use color and the machine will print black with
the color cartridges empty. I use it wirelessly and haven't gotten the
scan function to work from my computers - currently F19 (but haven't
tried very hard since I only have tried to scan and copy at the
printer) 
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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Steven Stern]

On 03/15/2014 10:15 AM, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
>> I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite
>> never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour
>> cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is why I decided
>> to switch. 
> 
> I used to have a HP, and a Canon, that both did that.  After the Canon
> clogged up, I decided I'd stick with laser printers, only.
> 
> It occurred to me, later on, that I probably should have pulled the
> colour ink tanks out, soaked them in water overnight, just to keep the
> moisture sensor fooled into thinking there was still ink in the tanks.
> 
> Inkjets are a huge money waster.  Tiny, expensive, ink tanks.  They dry
> out without use.  They go through more than half of their ink in
> repetitive cleaning cycles (if you rarely ever print in colour, if you
> did print in colour, that proportion would be less, as you'd actually be
> using some of that ink).  And you have continual head clogs, some of
> which just will not clear.
> 

The first thing to do with an inkjet printer is to find every place a
default is set in the drivers and specific programs you use to print and
set them to use fast draft mode.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: Patrick O'Callaghan 

| > i never have and never will recommend any 'all-in-one'.

They have their place (and sometimes it is hard to find a place for
all the bits it would replace).

(I have the Brother DCP-7065dn mentioned earlier.)

Likes:

- I really like duplex printers.

- really inexpensive -- goes for Canadian $100 once in a while

- has Linux support

- includes both a flatbed scanner and an Automatic Document Feeder
  (not duplex)

- takes less space than the a printer + a scanner (but see later)

Dislikes:

- Linux support is via proprietry drivers

- toner cartridge has fairly low capacity compared with at least some
  laser printers.  That makes for more expense.

- A4 maximum size (I'd like Legal size, but legal size flatbed
  scanners are rare and expensive; we have a ~15 year old one with a
  SCSI interface)

- Linux scanning software sometimes ignores the size settings for
  scanning.  It might be the fault of the driver.

- noisy until it decides to go to sleep.

- like all all-in-ones, it takes a lot of space.

| > regardless of what brand you get, something you should consider about
| > 'all-in-one', what happens when you lose power supply? all is lost.
| 
| I repair it or replace it, same as anything.

These things are so inexpensive that it isn't worth heroic efforts to
repair them.

| I'm in Europe, so A4 is the size I need.

Consider looking for an Canon LIDE scanner in boot sales.  Some but
not all models are supported in Linux.  They are little bigger than a
notebook and can be left in a cupboard until you need it.  They
connect via USB and use that for power so the cable problem is
minimized.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and
> scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
> 
> The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm unsure
> about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of opinions.
> 
> Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?
> 
> poc

Mine is Brother MFC-7460DN. It has everything you listed, except it is 
not wireless. Works for me as a charm for last couple of years under 
different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE. The unit itself 
is very well build one. Yes, you need to use Brother's drivers for it. 
But what's the problem with it, if they are always available and easy to 
install?

You can easily find a unit with wireless, if it it important for you. 
I've paid for mine on sale $149 and very happy with it.

Somebody asked, what you would do, if a power supply dies. Well for the 
money I've paid, the answer would be a simple one:"I would through it  
away and buy another one." However I do not think you should worry about 
the case. I used Cannon and HP before. Brother surpasses them in quality 
at any time.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: Juan R. de Silva 

|  Yes, you need to use Brother's drivers for it. 
| But what's the problem with it, if they are always available and easy to 
| install?

1.  At some point, Brother will stop supporting the printer.  The
printer may still be otherwise useful.  I've had that happen with a
bunch of devices.  Usually it is Windows support that is dropped; the
community-created Linux drivers continue working.  But AMD and nVidia
drop support from their Linux drivers.  (My first laser printer lasted
for a dozen years or more.)

2.  Bugs leave us helpless.  There have been Brother bugs.  Scanner
problems sometimes remain mysterious.

3.  Open source drivers have the potential of being better than
proprietary ones.

4.  With a network printer, you want all your computers to have
drivers.  In our household, that's a lot of installation compared with
"let the distro do the work".  And it gets repeated with every update
of the drivers and every version of the distro.

We've had a number of Brother lasers that did not need proprietary
drivers.
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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/15/2014 11:57 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

4.  With a network printer, you want all your computers to have
drivers.  In our household, that's a lot of installation compared with
"let the distro do the work".  And it gets repeated with every update
of the drivers and every version of the distro.


Download the driver once.  Copy it to each computer, putting it in 
/home/someuser/Downloads.  Then, presuming that you've put /home on its 
own partition and don't format it when you re-install, the drivers are 
ready to be installed.  Of course, if you upgrade instead of doing a 
clean install for every new version, this issue goes away.  Or, if none 
of the above appeals to you, keep doing whatever you've done in the 
past, but don't expect any sympathy from me when you complain about how 
much trouble it is.  Your LAN, your computers, your choice.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 15:33 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 03/15/2014 09:45 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
> > and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
> >
> > The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
> > unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
> > opinions.
> >
>  I only have a Samsung CLP-315W color laser printer, but the Samsung
> Smartpanel, and the Samsung Unified driver both installed & worked
> perfectly with fedora 20.. I just moved from Debian, so I wasn't even
> sure it would work. I am so happy!!
> I would totally recommend a Samsung color laser printer in place of an
> inkjet.. you will NOT be sorry!

I'll keep that in mind, but I was looking for an all-in-one.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:55 -0800, Fred Erickson wrote:
> I have the HP Laser Jet Pro CM1415fnw Color MFP. This machine works
> fine for me for home/small office use but would not be suitable for an
> office where several people would use it. The paper tray only holds
> about a 1/2in or so of paper and it prints rather slowly.
> 
> I hardly ever use color and the machine will print black with
> the color cartridges empty. I use it wirelessly and haven't gotten the
> scan function to work from my computers - currently F19 (but haven't
> tried very hard since I only have tried to scan and copy at the
> printer) 

HP Linux support is usually pretty good and I've used the scan function
on a Photosmart printer before now, so it's probably not a big deal to
configure. However the CM1415 is outside the price range I'm budgeting
for and I don't care about colour (I understand about the cartridges but
it still puts a premium on the upfront cost).

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 05:03 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
> > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and
> > scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)
> > 
> > The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm unsure
> > about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of opinions.
> > 
> > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?
> > 
> > poc
> 
> Mine is Brother MFC-7460DN. It has everything you listed, except it is 
> not wireless. Works for me as a charm for last couple of years under 
> different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE. The unit itself 
> is very well build one. Yes, you need to use Brother's drivers for it. 
> But what's the problem with it, if they are always available and easy to 
> install?
> 
> You can easily find a unit with wireless, if it it important for you. 
> I've paid for mine on sale $149 and very happy with it.

Not so easy in fact. Most manufacturers make you select 2 out of {laser,
all-in-one, wireless} at least in a reasonable price range. Looks like a
marketing opportunity to me.

If I decide to forgo wireless I might take the Brother DCP7055. My
brother (I know :-) actually has one and recommends it, though he's a
Mac user and doesn't know about Linux compatibility.

I'm keen on wireless mainly because my router has no spare ports, but of
course there are solutions to that including a USB connection (the
printer will be physically close to the workstation).

> Somebody asked, what you would do, if a power supply dies. Well for the 
> money I've paid, the answer would be a simple one:"I would through it  
> away and buy another one."

Agreed.

> However I do not think you should worry about 
> the case. I used Cannon and HP before. Brother surpasses them in quality 
> at any time.

That's good to know.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:18:02 +
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> Not so easy in fact. Most manufacturers make you select 2 out of {laser,
> all-in-one, wireless} at least in a reasonable price range. Looks like a
> marketing opportunity to me.

Yea, an opportunity to market stand alone monochrome laser printers
to put next to the inkjet all-in-one :-). That's what I have
now - a Brother laser printer and an epson all-in-one.
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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Timothy Murphy]

Paul Cartwright wrote:

>  I only have a Samsung CLP-315W color laser printer, but the Samsung
> Smartpanel, and the Samsung Unified driver both installed & worked
> perfectly with fedora 20.. I just moved from Debian, so I wasn't even
> sure it would work. I am so happy!!
> I would totally recommend a Samsung color laser printer in place of an
> inkjet.. you will NOT be sorry!

I have a Samsung CLP-325W, which is working fine
under Fedora-20 and Centos-6.5 (and Windows),
but I found it extraordinarily difficult to set up under Linux.

In my experience Samsung hardware is always superb,
but any software supplied by Samsung either doesn't work as advertised
or else the setup is unintelligible.
(This is based on experience with this printer, 2 smart TVs 
and a smart phone from Samsung.)

As a matter of interest, did you get your Samsung drivers
from Samsung or from ?
Are there RPM files somewhere?

I think 
was the most useful site I found.


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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Steven Stern sent:
> The first thing to do with an inkjet printer is to find every place a
> default is set in the drivers and specific programs you use to print
> and set them to use fast draft mode. 

And then you get incredibly crap printouts.  Worse than my 1980's dot
matrix.  Which, I might add, went for very many years on the original
ribbon.  It had one of those huge long ones in a large cartridge, half
an inch high.  As it was dragged through the cartridge, it was twisted
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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> Urban legend is that inkjet cartridges cost more per litre than the
> finest champagne. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised.  While I don't know how much the
finest champagne would cost, I dare say that the good stuff doesn't cost
$50 for 20mL, as some inkjet cartridges do.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Fred Erickson sent:
> The paper tray only holds about a 1/2in or so of paper and it prints
> rather slowly. 

That's something that really annoys me.  Even many of the big office
printers only let you put in an inch worth of paper.

What do offices buy A4 paper in?  A ream of 500 sheets.  Let us put the
whole damn thing into the printer, and into just one of the hoppers.
Not having to spread it about, and keep half opened reams somewhere.

Sodding printers, designed by bastards incorporated.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 16 March 2014, D. Hugh Redelmeier sent:
> 4.  With a network printer, you want all your computers to have
> drivers.  In our household, that's a lot of installation compared with
> "let the distro do the work".  And it gets repeated with every update
> of the drivers and every version of the distro. 

Alternatively, have all the clients send standard postscript to one
computer, and let that computer deal with the printer.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Steven Stern]

On 03/16/2014 09:25 AM, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Steven Stern sent:
>> The first thing to do with an inkjet printer is to find every place a
>> default is set in the drivers and specific programs you use to print
>> and set them to use fast draft mode. 
> 
> And then you get incredibly crap printouts.  Worse than my 1980's dot
> matrix.  Which, I might add, went for very many years on the original
> ribbon.  It had one of those huge long ones in a large cartridge, half
> an inch high.  As it was dragged through the cartridge, it was twisted
> around, so both sides got used.
> 
Not really crappy at all, at least on my HP 8500A.  99.9% of what I
print is read a couple of times then thrown away, so quality is not all
that important.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[g]

On 03/15/14 22:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:32 +0600, g wrote:

<<>>


But take up at least twice the space and need another power socket. If I
was scanning every day I would consider it, but it's only for very
occasional use.


granted, you will pay more for individual units, but less expensive
to replace if you have to.


And more if I don't. I frankly doubt that this is a determining

> factor for the typical home user, i.e. me.

excuse me. i did not notice where you said for occasional home use
and little room. ;-)


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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[g]

On 03/16/14 20:26, Tim wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:

Urban legend is that inkjet cartridges cost more per litre than the
finest champagne.


I wouldn't be all that surprised.  While I don't know how much the
finest champagne would cost, I dare say that the good stuff doesn't cost
$50 for 20mL, as some inkjet cartridges do.


next in line in these parts is bottled water costing more than petrol.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[g]

On 03/16/14 20:32, Tim wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Fred Erickson sent:

The paper tray only holds about a 1/2in or so of paper and it prints
rather slowly.


That's something that really annoys me.  Even many of the big office
printers only let you put in an inch worth of paper.

What do offices buy A4 paper in?  A ream of 500 sheets.  Let us put the
whole damn thing into the printer, and into just one of the hoppers.
Not having to spread it about, and keep half opened reams somewhere.

Sodding printers, designed by bastards incorporated.


i was told many years ago that short stack was because of problems
of feeding sheets from a large stack. also was so one could watch
the secretary bend over more often to get paper. ;-)


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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 00:44 +0600, g wrote:
> > I wouldn't be all that surprised.  While I don't know how much the
> > finest champagne would cost, I dare say that the good stuff doesn't
> cost
> > $50 for 20mL, as some inkjet cartridges do.
> 
> next in line in these parts is bottled water costing more than petrol.

I lived for many years in a country (Venezuela) in which bottled water
does in fact cost several times what petrol costs by a factor of around
20 (yes 2 0, not a typo), and when I say bottled water I don't mean
Evian or Perrier, I mean water that you can safely drink.

But that's OT.

poc

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Tim]

Tim:
>> Sodding printers, designed by bastards incorporated.

g:
> i was told many years ago that short stack was because of problems
> of feeding sheets from a large stack.

Wasn't a problem for our high speed photostat machine (back when they
were called that, rather than photocopier).  Trying to remember how much
you could stack into it, but it had to be at least four reams.

I can well imagine that for low volume printers, you don't want a lot of
paper stashed in them, absorbing moisture and fumes, and decomposing as
modern paper is want to do.  But you ought to, at least, be able to put
a full ream into the large office printers.

We were given a modern HP laser printer, last year.  Tested it out, and
white steam comes out with the page (well, actually condensation, since
steam is invisible).  Printing was definitely "hot off the presses."
It'd been left somewhere where the paper had absorbed a lot of moisture,
and printing heated up the paper to the point it cooks it out with the
page.  It did make for a rather impressive event as a page popped out.

> also was so one could watch the secretary bend over more often to get
> paper. ;-) 

LOL, and tut.

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Doug]

On 03/17/2014 10:02 AM, Tim wrote:

Tim:

Sodding printers, designed by bastards incorporated.

g:

i was told many years ago that short stack was because of problems
of feeding sheets from a large stack.

Wasn't a problem for our high speed photostat machine (back when they
were called that, rather than photocopier).  Trying to remember how much
you could stack into it, but it had to be at least four reams.

I can well imagine that for low volume printers, you don't want a lot of
paper stashed in them, absorbing moisture and fumes, and decomposing as
modern paper is want to do.  But you ought to, at least, be able to put
a full ream into the large office printers.

We were given a modern HP laser printer, last year.  Tested it out, and
white steam comes out with the page (well, actually condensation, since
steam is invisible).  Printing was definitely "hot off the presses."
It'd been left somewhere where the paper had absorbed a lot of moisture,
and printing heated up the paper to the point it cooks it out with the
page.  It did make for a rather impressive event as a page popped out.


also was so one could watch the secretary bend over more often to get
paper. ;-)

LOL, and tut.


That story reminds me of a printer I had that kept its paper supply
semi-vertical, so as to feed it by gravity to the print mechanism, and
the paper would absorb moisture from the air and fall over, and
not feed right. Your paper should at least be stored horizontally,
and preferably in a  protected (covered) tray. It will still have access
to the atmosphere, but the warmth of the mechanism may help
keep it more dry, and it will not expose the under sheets to the
air, as my old floppy device did. I also had a cheap fax machine
that did the same thing.
I don't know if anybody still makes one like that, but if so, then
don't buy it!

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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Robin Laing]

On 2014-03-15 07:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use
under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print
and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.)

The Samsung  Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm
unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of
opinions.

Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend?

poc



We don't use mono at home but just for your information.

At home, after years of expensive cartridges and issues with inkjets we 
went laser.  Wanted duplex as I print handouts that are double sided and 
duplex saves precious time.


We use HP Laserjet Pro 400's at work for personal printers.  This is an 
MFP printer.  If you do lots of scanning, the scanner is auto feed and 
duplex.


Setting it up was a dream.  Plug printer into the network, set IP 
address if you don't us DHCP.  Install hplip with yum.  Start the 
printer tool and find the printer.  You may have to put in the IP 
address of the printer.


For scanning, there is a file that the printer tool downloads from HP 
and installs.  Works with xsane.


My daughter purchased a colour Samsung all in one and setup it up and 
installed it herself.  She said it was easier than expected.  Plugged in 
the USB cord and Fedora 19 recognized it and asked to print a test page. 
 Done.



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Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

[Robin Laing]

On 2014-03-16 04:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 05:03 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:





Not so easy in fact. Most manufacturers make you select 2 out of {laser,
all-in-one, wireless} at least in a reasonable price range. Looks like a
marketing opportunity to me.

If I decide to forgo wireless I might take the Brother DCP7055. My
brother (I know :-) actually has one and recommends it, though he's a
Mac user and doesn't know about Linux compatibility.

I'm keen on wireless mainly because my router has no spare ports, but of
course there are solutions to that including a USB connection (the
printer will be physically close to the workstation).



Or a cheap switch.


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Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: Fred Smith 

| I'm using a Brother DCP7065DN at home, and it seems to work well with
| Linux, BUT you have to use Brother's drivers for it. The driver recommended
| by the RH printer tool didn't work for me.
| 
| I've printed to it from Centos 6.5, Fedora 19, and Fedora 20, so far.
| I've used the scanner portion only from Centos, so far, where it did
| work.

I've used it with Fedora 18, 19, CentOS 5, and Ubuntu 12.04.

I just installed the drivers on my Fedora 20 system, and it's not
quite working.

First of all, I'm not sure the best way to talk over the network with
the printer.  Both of these URIs seem to work:
dnssd://Brother%20DCP-7065DN._pdl-datastream._tcp.local/
lpd://redpaper.mimosa.com

I think that the first uses the IPP protocol and the second is using
the old UNIX "line printer daemon" protocol.  Perhaps even HP's
jetdirect could be used.

I put holes in the firewall for IPP, IPP-client

In any case, printing works, but the settings are unreliable.

One print job came out as if I had legal size paper loaded (so there
was extra margin on the top and the bottom was chopped).

Another came out the single page image scrunched into a quarter of the 
paper as if the software were trying to print four pages in one.

In both cases, the settings I specified were as I wanted them, not as
the result appeared.

I was using these drivers from the Brother site:
cupswrapperDCP7065DN-2.0.4-2.i386.rpm
dcp7065dnlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.rpm

BTW, I was able to get scanning to work.  Mind you, I have only
scanned one page.  I had to hole the firewall:
sudo firewall-cmd --add-port=54925-54926/udp
sudo firewall-cmd --permanent --add-port=54925-54926/udp
In the past, the page sizing of scanning has been somewhat unreliable.  I 
don't know if this is still true.
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Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

[Lee]

Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers?
On Apr 28, 2014 11:07 AM, "D. Hugh Redelmeier"  wrote:

> | From: Fred Smith 
>
> | I'm using a Brother DCP7065DN at home, and it seems to work well with
> | Linux, BUT you have to use Brother's drivers for it. The driver
> recommended
> | by the RH printer tool didn't work for me.
> |
> | I've printed to it from Centos 6.5, Fedora 19, and Fedora 20, so far.
> | I've used the scanner portion only from Centos, so far, where it did
> | work.
>
> I've used it with Fedora 18, 19, CentOS 5, and Ubuntu 12.04.
>
> I just installed the drivers on my Fedora 20 system, and it's not
> quite working.
>
> First of all, I'm not sure the best way to talk over the network with
> the printer.  Both of these URIs seem to work:
> dnssd://Brother%20DCP-7065DN._pdl-datastream._tcp.local/
> lpd://redpaper.mimosa.com
>
> I think that the first uses the IPP protocol and the second is using
> the old UNIX "line printer daemon" protocol.  Perhaps even HP's
> jetdirect could be used.
>
> I put holes in the firewall for IPP, IPP-client
>
> In any case, printing works, but the settings are unreliable.
>
> One print job came out as if I had legal size paper loaded (so there
> was extra margin on the top and the bottom was chopped).
>
> Another came out the single page image scrunched into a quarter of the
> paper as if the software were trying to print four pages in one.
>
> In both cases, the settings I specified were as I wanted them, not as
> the result appeared.
>
> I was using these drivers from the Brother site:
> cupswrapperDCP7065DN-2.0.4-2.i386.rpm
> dcp7065dnlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.rpm
>
> BTW, I was able to get scanning to work.  Mind you, I have only
> scanned one page.  I had to hole the firewall:
> sudo firewall-cmd --add-port=54925-54926/udp
> sudo firewall-cmd --permanent --add-port=54925-54926/udp
> In the past, the page sizing of scanning has been somewhat unreliable.  I
> don't know if this is still true.
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Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: Lee 

| Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers?

No.  Many don't need proprietary drivers.  Some have proprietary
drivers.  I would guess some don't have Linux drivers at all.

As usual, one good resource is


The other is Brother's site.  For example, here's the driver page for
the DCP7065dn

Notice that it mentions Linux as a choice.
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Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

[Fred Smith]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 08:06:57PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> | From: Lee 
> 
> | Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers?
> 
> No.  Many don't need proprietary drivers.  Some have proprietary
> drivers.  I would guess some don't have Linux drivers at all.
> 
> As usual, one good resource is
> 
> 
> The other is Brother's site.  For example, here's the driver page for
> the DCP7065dn
> 
> Notice that it mentions Linux as a choice.

As I may have said earlier (I forget which thread it was, maybe not this one),
we have a DCP7065 at home and it works fine for me on multiple Fedora and
Centos versions using Brother's driver. So far I haven't found a driver that
ships with Fedora/Centos that works on this device. (OTOH, my older
HL-2070N works fine with the generic drivers that come with Linux, so
I've never even attempted Brothers' drivers for that one.)

But, in another thread a few weeks (month or two, perhaps) ago someone
pointed out a script available from Brother that asks you about the
device models, addresses, etc. then downloads and installs the driver files
for you, including any little tweaks that are needed. 

You can get it from this URL:

http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=dcp7065dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625

I've used it for the 7065 on at leasat two of my systems and it makes
a tedious job into a trivial job.

Fred

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Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

[Lee]

Just wondering, what is the interface you use to install the drivers,
whether they're from Brother or the operating system? CUPS?
On Apr 29, 2014 6:01 AM, "Fred Smith"  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 08:06:57PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> > | From: Lee 
> >
> > | Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers?
> >
> > No.  Many don't need proprietary drivers.  Some have proprietary
> > drivers.  I would guess some don't have Linux drivers at all.
> >
> > As usual, one good resource is
> >  >
> >
> > The other is Brother's site.  For example, here's the driver page for
> > the DCP7065dn
> > <
> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=ca&lang=en&prod=dcp7065dn_all
> >
> > Notice that it mentions Linux as a choice.
>
> As I may have said earlier (I forget which thread it was, maybe not this
> one),
> we have a DCP7065 at home and it works fine for me on multiple Fedora and
> Centos versions using Brother's driver. So far I haven't found a driver
> that
> ships with Fedora/Centos that works on this device. (OTOH, my older
> HL-2070N works fine with the generic drivers that come with Linux, so
> I've never even attempted Brothers' drivers for that one.)
>
> But, in another thread a few weeks (month or two, perhaps) ago someone
> pointed out a script available from Brother that asks you about the
> device models, addresses, etc. then downloads and installs the driver files
> for you, including any little tweaks that are needed.
>
> You can get it from this URL:
>
>
> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=dcp7065dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
>
> I've used it for the 7065 on at leasat two of my systems and it makes
> a tedious job into a trivial job.
>
> Fred
>
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Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

[Fred Smith]

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 02:33:07PM -0700, Lee wrote:
>Just wondering, what is the interface you use to install the drivers,
>whether they're from Brother or the operating system? CUPS?

Use the program whose URL I gave below to install the drivers.
Once drivers are installed,  use the standard printer configuration
app on Fedora to set up a printer to use that driver.
(or use CUPS if you prefer, some people do).
> 
>On Apr 29, 2014 6:01 AM, "Fred Smith"
><[1]fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrote:
> 
>  On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 08:06:57PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>  > | From: Lee <[2]ny6...@gmail.com>
>  >
>  > | Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers?
>  >
>  > No. Â Many don't need proprietary drivers. Â Some have proprietary
>  > drivers. Â I would guess some don't have Linux drivers at all.
>  >
>  > As usual, one good resource is
>  >
>  <[3]https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/Databa
>  seIntro>
>  >
>  > The other is Brother's site. Â For example, here's the driver page
>  for
>  > the DCP7065dn
>  >
>  <[4]http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=ca&lang=en&pro
>  d=dcp7065dn_all>
>  > Notice that it mentions Linux as a choice.
>  As I may have said earlier (I forget which thread it was, maybe not
>  this one),
>  we have a DCP7065 at home and it works fine for me on multiple
>  Fedora and
>  Centos versions using Brother's driver. So far I haven't found a
>  driver that
>  ships with Fedora/Centos that works on this device. (OTOH, my older
>  HL-2070N works fine with the generic drivers that come with Linux,
>  so
>  I've never even attempted Brothers' drivers for that one.)
>  But, in another thread a few weeks (month or two, perhaps) ago
>  someone
>  pointed out a script available from Brother that asks you about the
>  device models, addresses, etc. then downloads and installs the
>  driver files
>  for you, including any little tweaks that are needed.
>  You can get it from this URL:
>  [5]http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&p
>  rod=dcp7065dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
>  I've used it for the 7065 on at leasat two of my systems and it
>  makes
>  a tedious job into a trivial job.
>  Fred
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>4. 
> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=ca&lang=en&prod=dcp7065dn_all
>5. 
> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=dcp7065dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
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