Re: Claws-Mail doesn't start on FC28.
On 2018-05-02 at 09:18:44 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Erik P. Olsen wrote: > > Claws-Mail doesn't start on FC28 because it can't find > > libnsl.so.1. A softlink to libnsl.so.2 fixes the issue. > > It's probably better to install libnsl which provides > libnsl.so.1 rather than creating a symlink to a different > library version. I use to build claws-mail from source but wanted to try the package and it failed with the error I described. I thought this symlink could act as a circumvention until the package would be fixed. -- Venlig hilsen, Erik P. Olsen ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail doesn't start on FC28.
Erik P. Olsen wrote: > Claws-Mail doesn't start on FC28 because it can't find > libnsl.so.1. A softlink to libnsl.so.2 fixes the issue. It's probably better to install libnsl which provides libnsl.so.1 rather than creating a symlink to a different library version. But for what it's worth, claws-mail starts up without libnsl installed for me. I've not used it before, so I clicked through the setup process and the app started without error. Perhaps it's a plugin which has the libnsl.so.1 dependency? It would be good to find out if there's a package which is missing a dependency. Something like this might help turn up any plugin which needs libnsl.so.1: ldd /usr/lib*/claws-mail/plugins/*.so | egrep 'libnsl.so.1|:$' I'm not a claws-mail user, so I don't know if it stores plugins elsewhere. If so, you'd want to look in those locations as well. -- Todd ~~ Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope. -- Freewheelin' Franklin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 03/05/18 16:47, wwp wrote: I already gave you a clue about how to do that in another email (even, twice). 1) select the emails to filter 2) Tools/Filter selected messages That will do it, provided that your filter rules don't expect messages to be unread or new (since they are from a former incorporation, they aren't new anymore, even if you can set them the unread status). . Yes, thank you, I know I tried that several times without success. But I have recreated everything and perhaps I can find why it fails. Right now I have domestic chores to deal with but will get to it later. Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
Hello Bob, On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:35:04 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 03/05/18 10:11, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > > OK, let me serve you the piece of cake :-) > > > > 1. Configuration -> Filtering > > 2. Give the filter in question a name (any name will do) > > 3. Hit the upper define button to define the condition on which the filter > > should act. > > 4. If you for example want to filter messages from a certain user press the > > "Match > > Criteria" pull down and select "Header" > > 5. Now you can select which message header to use by pressing the "Name" > > pull down and in > > the case of matching a user's mail address select "From" and enter the > > user's address in > > the empty box below the "Name" box. > > 6. Now press "Add" and "OK" > > 7. You have now defined the filter condition and you remain the define what > > the filter > > should do. Press the lower define button. > > 8. It comes up with the action "Move" as default. Press the "Action" pull > > down to see the > > various possible actions. Select one of them and pick the target > > destination through the > > "Select" button. > > 9. Once the destination is selected you press "OK", then "Add" and "OK"- > > 10. Your filter is now defined and you activate it by pressing "Add" an > > "OK". > > > > Have fun. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Erik P. Olsen > > . > > Thanks to all for the help. > > So far so good. I have several filters working and displaying incoming new > messages in the sub-directories I've created. But I still have 785 earlier > messages in the fastmail inbox that I would like to run through those filters > and have not found how to do that? I already gave you a clue about how to do that in another email (even, twice). 1) select the emails to filter 2) Tools/Filter selected messages That will do it, provided that your filter rules don't expect messages to be unread or new (since they are from a former incorporation, they aren't new anymore, even if you can set them the unread status). Regards, -- wwp pgpdRxIOsZCMw.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 03/05/18 10:11, Erik P. Olsen wrote: OK, let me serve you the piece of cake :-) 1. Configuration -> Filtering 2. Give the filter in question a name (any name will do) 3. Hit the upper define button to define the condition on which the filter should act. 4. If you for example want to filter messages from a certain user press the "Match Criteria" pull down and select "Header" 5. Now you can select which message header to use by pressing the "Name" pull down and in the case of matching a user's mail address select "From" and enter the user's address in the empty box below the "Name" box. 6. Now press "Add" and "OK" 7. You have now defined the filter condition and you remain the define what the filter should do. Press the lower define button. 8. It comes up with the action "Move" as default. Press the "Action" pull down to see the various possible actions. Select one of them and pick the target destination through the "Select" button. 9. Once the destination is selected you press "OK", then "Add" and "OK"- 10. Your filter is now defined and you activate it by pressing "Add" an "OK". Have fun. -- Regards, Erik P. Olsen . Thanks to all for the help. So far so good. I have several filters working and displaying incoming new messages in the sub-directories I've created. But I still have 785 earlier messages in the fastmail inbox that I would like to run through those filters and have not found how to do that? -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 2018-03-04 at 12:10:38 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 03/04/18 11:28, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > > On 2018-03-04 at 10:49:02 Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > >> I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic attempts > >> to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to admit defeat > >> and remove Claws. It was installed via dnf in this updated Fedora 27. I > >> asked on the Claws list but there was no response. > >> > >> As a last resort perhaps someone can give me an example of a working set > >> of entries for the filter menu? I tried what appeared reasonable based > >> on what help I found in google but it always refused to save. > >> > >> . > >> > >> Configuration -> Filtering > >> > >> From then on you give the filter a name and press the two define buttons > >> on the > >> right of the display and I am sure you can find the right way to create a > >> filter. > >> It's a piece of cake. > >> > "It's a piece of cake." For you perhaps but I've spent more time than I > want to admit trying to get something in those entries that would even > begin to work like "move #mh/Mailbox/inbox/Fedora." That's about all > I've found. I made the list of inbox subdirectories of which Fedora us > one. but there are other items, the entries for which are not obvious > or suggested anywhere that I have found [examples]. > OK, let me serve you the piece of cake :-) 1. Configuration -> Filtering 2. Give the filter in question a name (any name will do) 3. Hit the upper define button to define the condition on which the filter should act. 4. If you for example want to filter messages from a certain user press the "Match Criteria" pull down and select "Header" 5. Now you can select which message header to use by pressing the "Name" pull down and in the case of matching a user's mail address select "From" and enter the user's address in the empty box below the "Name" box. 6. Now press "Add" and "OK" 7. You have now defined the filter condition and you remain the define what the filter should do. Press the lower define button. 8. It comes up with the action "Move" as default. Press the "Action" pull down to see the various possible actions. Select one of them and pick the target destination through the "Select" button. 9. Once the destination is selected you press "OK", then "Add" and "OK"- 10. Your filter is now defined and you activate it by pressing "Add" an "OK". Have fun. -- Regards, Erik P. Olsen ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 11:00 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > I've never found a mail client that could do filtering worth spit. I found that YAM (Yet Another Mailer) on the Amiga was good, back in the day... I'm continually amazed at how crap software can be at running on some gigahertz multi-CPU with gigabits of RAM, compared to what we used to do on a 16 MHz CPU with 4 megs of RAM. My old Amiga could cold boot in 13 seconds. Booting should, by now, take a only fraction of a second. When I run a program it shouldn't take an age to get going, nor lock up the computer while it does so. -- [tim@localhost ~] -rsvp Linux 4.13.16-100.fc25.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 19:52:46 UTC 2017 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 04.03.2018, Tom Horsley wrote: > I've never found a mail client that could do filtering worth spit. I pull using getmail. Then, procmail sorts the mail into different directories which I read using mutt. Have been doing this over two decades, and it works as intended. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 03/04/18 17:46, wwp wrote: Hello Bob, On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 17:10:18 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: On 03/04/18 13:23, stan wrote: It's a little convoluted (so is my explanation below). Suppose I want to send all the mail from you to a spam folder. I would click on Tools -> Create Filter rule. I haven't used automatically, so I'm not sure what will happen there. To get rid of your mail, I would click By From. This brings up the list of current rules. It shows your address, but a blank action. I click on the Define button to the right of Action. It brings up a window with move as the default action. I click on the Select, to select where I want your mail moved. Let's say I already have a mail folder called spam_folder (it has to be defined in claws), and I just click on that. Then, here's the tricky part, I have to add it to the actions before I say OK. Then I have to add it to the list of rules before I say OK. Now, the filter is all set and will work. . With this information I am able to get some results. My problem apparently was working from the Configuration menu, Tools has two creates, "Create filter rule" and "Create processing rule." I'm not sure which one is the right one to use to sort my incoming messages into folders but I'll muddle through there. Filtering rules are for filtering emails that are being retrieved from server (POP, IMAP, NNTP). Processing rules are for filtering emails in folders, when entering those folders or when doing a right click on a folder then "Run processing rules". Additionally, you can manually apply "filtering rules" by doing Tools/Filter all messages in folder or Tools/Filter selected messages. One other thing, how do I tell a it to go back and look at the inbox and move mail from there into a directory using a new filter/process I have created? Got your answer above? Regards, . Yes, this is the kind of information I was looking for. I will save this in my notes. I will work on this tomorrow morning. Thank you, ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
Hello Bob, On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 17:10:18 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 03/04/18 13:23, stan wrote: > > It's a little convoluted (so is my explanation below). Suppose I want > > to send all the mail from you to a spam folder. > > > > I would click on Tools -> Create Filter rule. I haven't used > > automatically, so I'm not sure what will happen there. To get rid of > > your mail, I would click By From. This brings up the list of current > > rules. It shows your address, but a blank action. I click on the > > Define button to the right of Action. It brings up a window with move > > as the default action. I click on the Select, to select where I want > > your mail moved. Let's say I already have a mail folder called > > spam_folder (it has to be defined in claws), and I just click on that. > > Then, here's the tricky part, I have to add it to the actions before I > > say OK. Then I have to add it to the list of rules before I say OK. > > Now, the filter is all set and will work. > > . > > With this information I am able to get some results. My problem apparently > was working from the Configuration menu, Tools has two creates, "Create > filter rule" and "Create processing rule." I'm not sure which one is the > right one to use to sort my incoming messages into folders but I'll muddle > through there. Filtering rules are for filtering emails that are being retrieved from server (POP, IMAP, NNTP). Processing rules are for filtering emails in folders, when entering those folders or when doing a right click on a folder then "Run processing rules". Additionally, you can manually apply "filtering rules" by doing Tools/Filter all messages in folder or Tools/Filter selected messages. > One other thing, how do I tell a it to go back and look at the inbox and move > mail from there into a directory using a new filter/process I have created? Got your answer above? Regards, -- wwp pgpxAGt5Ub9zr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 03/04/18 13:23, stan wrote: It's a little convoluted (so is my explanation below). Suppose I want to send all the mail from you to a spam folder. I would click on Tools -> Create Filter rule. I haven't used automatically, so I'm not sure what will happen there. To get rid of your mail, I would click By From. This brings up the list of current rules. It shows your address, but a blank action. I click on the Define button to the right of Action. It brings up a window with move as the default action. I click on the Select, to select where I want your mail moved. Let's say I already have a mail folder called spam_folder (it has to be defined in claws), and I just click on that. Then, here's the tricky part, I have to add it to the actions before I say OK. Then I have to add it to the list of rules before I say OK. Now, the filter is all set and will work. . With this information I am able to get some results. My problem apparently was working from the Configuration menu, Tools has two creates, "Create filter rule" and "Create processing rule." I'm not sure which one is the right one to use to sort my incoming messages into folders but I'll muddle through there. One other thing, how do I tell a it to go back and look at the inbox and move mail from there into a directory using a new filter/process I have created? Thanks for the help. -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:49:02 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic > attempts to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to > admit defeat and remove Claws. It was installed via dnf in this > updated Fedora 27. I asked on the Claws list but there was no > response. It's a little convoluted (so is my explanation below). Suppose I want to send all the mail from you to a spam folder. I would click on Tools -> Create Filter rule. I haven't used automatically, so I'm not sure what will happen there. To get rid of your mail, I would click By From. This brings up the list of current rules. It shows your address, but a blank action. I click on the Define button to the right of Action. It brings up a window with move as the default action. I click on the Select, to select where I want your mail moved. Let's say I already have a mail folder called spam_folder (it has to be defined in claws), and I just click on that. Then, here's the tricky part, I have to add it to the actions before I say OK. Then I have to add it to the list of rules before I say OK. Now, the filter is all set and will work. > As a last resort perhaps someone can give me an example of a working > set of entries for the filter menu? I tried what appeared reasonable > based on what help I found in google but it always refused to save. You probably skipped a step, see above. The actual filter rules are in a file called matcherrc in the directory ~/.claws-mail. Here is an example for folder bugzilla using one of the built-ins (from) (should be single line, wrapped on re-editing) enabled rulename "" from matchcase "bugzi...@redhat.com" move "#mh/Mailbox/bugzilla" Here's one for a non default header component (should be single line, wrapped on re-editing) enabled rulename "" header "Authentication-Results" matchcase "spf=fail" move "#mh/Mailbox/spam_folder" If you decide to make your rules by editing the matcherrc file, be sure that claws is not running. Claws might not be suitable for your work flow. So it goes. That's why choice is so great, we all get the tools we want to use. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 03/04/18 11:28, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 2018-03-04 at 10:49:02 Bob Goodwin wrote: I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic attempts to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to admit defeat and remove Claws. It was installed via dnf in this updated Fedora 27. I asked on the Claws list but there was no response. As a last resort perhaps someone can give me an example of a working set of entries for the filter menu? I tried what appeared reasonable based on what help I found in google but it always refused to save. . Configuration -> Filtering From then on you give the filter a name and press the two define buttons on the right of the display and I am sure you can find the right way to create a filter. It's a piece of cake. "It's a piece of cake." For you perhaps but I've spent more time than I want to admit trying to get something in those entries that would even begin to work like "move #mh/Mailbox/inbox/Fedora." That's about all I've found. I made the list of inbox subdirectories of which Fedora us one. but there are other items, the entries for which are not obvious or suggested anywhere that I have found [examples]. -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 2018-03-04 at 10:49:02 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic attempts > to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to admit defeat > and remove Claws. It was installed via dnf in this updated Fedora 27. I > asked on the Claws list but there was no response. > > As a last resort perhaps someone can give me an example of a working set > of entries for the filter menu? I tried what appeared reasonable based > on what help I found in google but it always refused to save. > > Bob > Configuration -> Filtering From then on you give the filter a name and press the two define buttons on the right of the display and I am sure you can find the right way to create a filter. It's a piece of cake. -- Erik ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On 03/04/18 11:00, Tom Horsley wrote: I've never found a mail client that could do filtering worth spit. What I do is a lot more trouble, but it seems worth it in the end: I run the dovecot IMAP server on my system, use fetchmail to suck mail off other servers and feed it to dovecot, then use the dovecot-sieve package to have dovecot do the filtering at the IMAP server level. A fair amount of trouble to setup, but once working, I can switch email clients at will and get the exact same filtering. ___ Yeah that's probably a solution. It seems I continually fiddle with the Thunderbird filters, they always work to some degree and aren't hard to set up but there are annoying things that happen, like showing stuff in trash as unread until I run the filter manually ... I'll consider trying your solution after I remove Claws. -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:49:02 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic attempts > to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to admit defeat > and remove Claws. I've never found a mail client that could do filtering worth spit. What I do is a lot more trouble, but it seems worth it in the end: I run the dovecot IMAP server on my system, use fetchmail to suck mail off other servers and feed it to dovecot, then use the dovecot-sieve package to have dovecot do the filtering at the IMAP server level. A fair amount of trouble to setup, but once working, I can switch email clients at will and get the exact same filtering. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:35:01 -0700, stan wrote: > > After last update of Claws-Mail reading new mails, something is > > changed. I read first mail, after reading I move it into trash, > > cursor jumps to last unread mail. Before update worked, after moved > > trash, cursor went next unread mail. > > > > Anyone else noticed? > > Yes, on one system (rawhide, future f26). But it isn't happening on > this system. I think this is happening because a fix was issued for a > bug that was in 3.13. It was related to the next_on_delete setting in > clawsrc. If set to sort_descending, it would move up instead of down > in the inbox when a message was deleted. It's mentioned in the release notes, also in the Fedora Update system ticket. Plus, there is the "clawsker" package that includes a tool you can use to toggle various hidden options available in Claws Mail. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:58:16 +0300 jarmo wrote: > Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:35:01 -0700 > stan kirjoitti: > > > I haven't tried it yet, but you could try playing around with the > > sort order in preferences. If that doesn't work, exit claws, and > > edit the ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc file and set next_on_delete=0 to > > next_on_delete=1. Then start claws again and try playing with the > > That did the trick. Set it 1 now works like > before. Excellent. And now I know how to fix my problem child. > > Thanks for advice, was quite annoying read mails jumping > up and down :) I agree, I certainly found it annoying. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail
Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:35:01 -0700 stan kirjoitti: > I haven't tried it yet, but you could try playing around with the sort > order in preferences. If that doesn't work, exit claws, and edit the > ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc file and set next_on_delete=0 to > next_on_delete=1. Then start claws again and try playing with the That did the trick. Set it 1 now works like before. Thanks for advice, was quite annoying read mails jumping up and down :) Jarmo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:12:30 +0300 jarmo wrote: > After last update of Claws-Mail reading new mails, something is > changed. I read first mail, after reading I move it into trash, > cursor jumps to last unread mail. Before update worked, after moved > trash, cursor went next unread mail. > > Anyone else noticed? Yes, on one system (rawhide, future f26). But it isn't happening on this system. I think this is happening because a fix was issued for a bug that was in 3.13. It was related to the next_on_delete setting in clawsrc. If set to sort_descending, it would move up instead of down in the inbox when a message was deleted. It's weird, because there is zero difference between the clawsrc on the system where it works and the system where it doesn't. The major difference between those two systems is that one is still on X 1.18 (the one that works) and the other is on X 1.19. I haven't tried it yet, but you could try playing around with the sort order in preferences. If that doesn't work, exit claws, and edit the ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc file and set next_on_delete=0 to next_on_delete=1. Then start claws again and try playing with the sort options again. If it still doesn't work, you should go to the claws site and search their mailing list archives to see if anyone else has reported the issue, and a workaround. If there is no mention, you should ask on their list or open a bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/30/16 03:01, Bob Goodwin wrote: <<>> > At the moment, as a result of my inquiry > here, Thunderbird is "fixed" > sufficiently that it works for me and I > will learn to cope with some odd quirks > acquired in the process, I may even > prefer those differences; as I continue > to look at alternatives ... > ===> have a look at seamonkey. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
Allegedly, on or about 29 April 2016, Bob Goodwin sent: > Xfce has what are probably the same > settings options and I use all the > appropriate ones for high contrast, text > size, etc. Wherever possible I choose > text not icons and white on black for > the text. However all of that has little > effect on Thunderbird and Firefox, even > Midori and SeaMonkey which I also use > where Firefox fails for me. That may be because they use one of the other graphics engines, and XFCE settings may not be applicable (totally or partially). If I recall correctly, those kind of applications tend to be Gnome/GTK. > The remaining problem is that the > Thunderbird message text area seems to > have grown smaller over the years. Yes, I've noticed that kind of malarkey when mum used to use it. I haven't been able to stand Thunderbird for many years, because of the painful way it does a myriad of things. Out of all the Linux clients I've tried over the years, Evolution has been the least painful. And that's been my experience, not finding a good client, but finding the least annoying. > So I began looking for an alternative > e-mail application and thought Claws > might be a possibility but it presents a > different set of things to work around. > That and the fact that we are stuck with > a poor aspect ratio in the available > monitors. A larger monitor monitor gives > very little more room for text and I > tend to use only about 12 inches of > width for the message text to make it > easier for me to follow from line to > line with my vision ... Just a thought, does using a monitor in portrait orientation work better for you? Emails tend to be longer than wider, and clients *may* organise their display better in another orientation. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. This email has been brought to you by beetwix. Mmm, spewy! Get some into you today. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On 04/29/16 23:13, g wrote: ===> again you are saying "Claws", yet you are posting about problems with thunderbird. or are you referring to 'bird claws'? ;=) -- . I realize that now but at the time "Subject: Claws" seemed appropriate. I apologize for any pain this caused. Thunderbird seems to be gradually becoming less what I would like and I guess the hidden subject is really, what can I replace Thunderbird with, while undoing some of of the stuff that bothers me? At the moment, as a result of my inquiry here, Thunderbird is "fixed" sufficiently that it works for me and I will learn to cope with some odd quirks acquired in the process, I may even prefer those differences; as I continue to look at alternatives ... Thanks, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/28/16 12:39, Bob Goodwin wrote: <<>> > I just finished a two days in the > hospital after an incident with a horse > ===> have you not learned to not stand in front of a charging horse? > and my "Claws" issues become lower > priority for a while due to other things > that need attention. > ===> again you are saying "Claws", yet you are posting about problems with thunderbird. or are you referring to 'bird claws'? ;=) -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/16 19:44, Dave Stevens wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:28:37 -0400 > Bob Goodwin wrote: >> On 04/29/16 18:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> You've also managed to switch to >>> terrible HTML mail with white on black... >> . >> The white on black I prefer normally but >> Thunderbird should send messages to this >> address as plain text. I usually check >> that in options to be doubly certain but >> perhaps forgot ... >> >> I will check to see why this "terrible >> thing" happened. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob >> > > wouldn't this thread be good on the claws list? > ===> not really. Bob gave his post wrong "Subject:" name. if you read thru post, you will see Bob is trying to get _thunderbird_ to produce a 'white on black' appearance. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:28:37 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 04/29/16 18:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > You've also managed to switch to > > terrible HTML mail with white on black... > . > The white on black I prefer normally but > Thunderbird should send messages to this > address as plain text. I usually check > that in options to be doubly certain but > perhaps forgot ... > > I will check to see why this "terrible > thing" happened. > > Thanks, > > Bob > wouldn't this thread be good on the claws list? -- I want to die peacefully, smiling in my sleep, like my Grampa, not screaming in terror like his passengers! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/16 16:21, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 04/29/16 12:43, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> You do know you can resize the various >> Thunderbird panes by putting the >> cursor over the dividing lines, >> waiting for it to turn into the double >> arrow cursor, holding the left mouse >> button down and dragging the lines >> whichever way you want. It's sticky, >> meaning the next time you open >> Thunderbird it'll appear in the same >> way you buggered it the last time. >> I've used it extensively. > . > > Yes I do that routinely but that can't > be done on that center panel that takes > up about 11 lines between the usual list > at the top and the message text pane. > When I open your message with a double > click the top pane closes but the 11 > line space just moves up adding four or > five more lines of space to the message > text panel. > ===> not quite true. what you want is configurable. i do not recall if it is a standard thunderbird setting or if it is via add-on. will need some time to find info on it. i do not read messages in center panel, i use separate window. in both, i have 4 lines in header area. with separate window also showing 'Menu bar' and 'Mail toolbar'. both of those bars can be remove using 'View > Toolbars' from 'Menu' bar. if you remove 'Menu bar', it is brought back with . back to setting 'white on black'. you never replied back about those settings because you where in hospital because you got in way of your horse. be glad it was not a horned bull. 8=) you did mention something about changing window borders. such can also be done via about:config | userChrome.css | userContent.css. to get you familiar with near all the ways of configurations, i included some links to guide you thru changes. which i imagine you have yet to read. here are some more links to help you with all the customizing you are wanting to do. =+=+= listing of customizations: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Category:Visual_customizations_%28Thunderbird%29 names for viewing panes with examples of layouts: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Window_layout_-_Thunderbird http://kb.mozillazine.org/Pane_and_menu_fonts http://kb.mozillazine.org/Pane_background_colors http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Change_Background_Color http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserContent.css http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8.0/source/mail/themes/qute/mail/folderPane.css =+=+= these are all from my bookmarks and are what i have gone thru over the years of using thunderbird. some i recall, some i do not. also, what "i do not", is know just what all you want to do and what you will accept for 'close' or 'almost'. so you can get 'spot on' or 'will have to accept', *you need* to go thru links and decide for yourself what you want. another thing you can do to get thunderbird changed to your liking is to use "skin" to change window frame and content. there are skins that will change both frame and text, including a light/white on dark/black. do know that some skins will disable some changes already made. only way to know is for *you* to try. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/16 18:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: You've also managed to switch to terrible HTML mail with white on black... . The white on black I prefer normally but Thunderbird should send messages to this address as plain text. I usually check that in options to be doubly certain but perhaps forgot ... I will check to see why this "terrible thing" happened. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/2016 03:02 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Yes, I installed that and it appears to solve the immediate problem by reducing that panel to two lines of information that I do use. Very good suggestion. You've also managed to switch to terrible HTML mail with white on black... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/16 14:32, Robert Nichols wrote: The is also an available "CompactHeader" addon for Thunderbird, which add the ability to reduce the header size to one or two lines. I've been using that for quite a few years, now. -- Bob Nichols . Yes, I installed that and it appears to solve the immediate problem by reducing that panel to two lines of information that I do use. Very good suggestion. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/2016 02:21 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/29/16 12:43, Rick Stevens wrote: You do know you can resize the various Thunderbird panes by putting the cursor over the dividing lines, waiting for it to turn into the double arrow cursor, holding the left mouse button down and dragging the lines whichever way you want. It's sticky, meaning the next time you open Thunderbird it'll appear in the same way you buggered it the last time. I've used it extensively. . Yes I do that routinely but that can't be done on that center panel that takes up about 11 lines between the usual list at the top and the message text pane. When I open your message with a double click the top pane closes but the 11 line space just moves up adding four or five more lines of space to the message text panel. Ah, I see what you mean. You're referring to the grey bar with the From, Subject and To fields along with the disposition buttons (Reply, Forward, etc.). Yes, that can't be resized. I stand (er, sit) corrected. And this problem remains after I have downgraded to 38.3.0 ... Poma has suggested Balsa and I've downloaded that to try. That and we are building a horse shed, and I have a new router that needs Tomato installed, but the e-mail configuration "problem" probably takes precedence. Now Balsa looks hopeful to me ... Never used Balsa so I can't speak to it. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/16 12:43, Rick Stevens wrote: You do know you can resize the various Thunderbird panes by putting the cursor over the dividing lines, waiting for it to turn into the double arrow cursor, holding the left mouse button down and dragging the lines whichever way you want. It's sticky, meaning the next time you open Thunderbird it'll appear in the same way you buggered it the last time. I've used it extensively. . Yes I do that routinely but that can't be done on that center panel that takes up about 11 lines between the usual list at the top and the message text pane. When I open your message with a double click the top pane closes but the 11 line space just moves up adding four or five more lines of space to the message text panel. And this problem remains after I have downgraded to 38.3.0 ... Poma has suggested Balsa and I've downloaded that to try. That and we are building a horse shed, and I have a new router that needs Tomato installed, but the e-mail configuration "problem" probably takes precedence. Now Balsa looks hopeful to me ... Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/2016 11:43 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/29/2016 06:57 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: The remaining problem is that the Thunderbird message text area seems to have grown smaller over the years. The window has the usual needed information at the top but in the center there is a large block of double spaced information much of which is already available at the top and all is readily available via menus provided. For me that center third of the display is just an annoyance, at least 7 of the 11 lines of the space it takes I would like to eliminate. Double clicking on the message list [opening?] changes the display and improves the space available for the message text, I prefer not to do that. You do know you can resize the various Thunderbird panes by putting the cursor over the dividing lines, waiting for it to turn into the double arrow cursor, holding the left mouse button down and dragging the lines whichever way you want. It's sticky, meaning the next time you open Thunderbird it'll appear in the same way you buggered it the last time. I've used it extensively. The is also an available "CompactHeader" addon for Thunderbird, which add the ability to reduce the header size to one or two lines. I've been using that for quite a few years, now. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/2016 06:57 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/29/16 06:39, Tim wrote: . I used to use Gnome, now I use Mate, but they both had (and Mate still does), options to set your display*look* preferences (Mate has it in the accessibility / universal access settings. Where you get a few choices for low, normal, high contrast, and high contrast & inverse. Gnome used to do it with Themes. The idea is that it sets the basic desktop colour scheme for most things (windows, menus, text foreground and backgrounds), and some desktops let you set them with RGB sliders rather than just give you some presets. However, you do come a cropper with some applications that either don't use the desktop colours in a logical fashion, or their display section takes their colours from the source of what they're displaying (such as anything that shows HTML). Likewise, it's confusing if you're word processing and including graphics. The printer is most likely to print the text black on a white page, because you're*displaying* it in inverse, not painting it in those colours. And judging how a graphic fits into that scheme is difficult, too. -- . Xfce has what are probably the same settings options and I use all the appropriate ones for high contrast, text size, etc. Wherever possible I choose text not icons and white on black for the text. However all of that has little effect on Thunderbird and Firefox, even Midori and SeaMonkey which I also use where Firefox fails for me. The remaining problem is that the Thunderbird message text area seems to have grown smaller over the years. The window has the usual needed information at the top but in the center there is a large block of double spaced information much of which is already available at the top and all is readily available via menus provided. For me that center third of the display is just an annoyance, at least 7 of the 11 lines of the space it takes I would like to eliminate. Double clicking on the message list [opening?] changes the display and improves the space available for the message text, I prefer not to do that. You do know you can resize the various Thunderbird panes by putting the cursor over the dividing lines, waiting for it to turn into the double arrow cursor, holding the left mouse button down and dragging the lines whichever way you want. It's sticky, meaning the next time you open Thunderbird it'll appear in the same way you buggered it the last time. I've used it extensively. So I began looking for an alternative e-mail application and thought Claws might be a possibility but it presents a different set of things to work around. That and the fact that we are stuck with a poor aspect ratio in the available monitors. A larger monitor monitor gives very little more room for text and I tend to use only about 12 inches of width for the message text to make it easier for me to follow from line to line with my vision ... -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - The difference between nerds and geeks? Nerds are socially inept - -and are painfully aware of that. Geeks couldn't care less. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/16 06:39, Tim wrote: . I used to use Gnome, now I use Mate, but they both had (and Mate still does), options to set your display*look* preferences (Mate has it in the accessibility / universal access settings. Where you get a few choices for low, normal, high contrast, and high contrast & inverse. Gnome used to do it with Themes. The idea is that it sets the basic desktop colour scheme for most things (windows, menus, text foreground and backgrounds), and some desktops let you set them with RGB sliders rather than just give you some presets. However, you do come a cropper with some applications that either don't use the desktop colours in a logical fashion, or their display section takes their colours from the source of what they're displaying (such as anything that shows HTML). Likewise, it's confusing if you're word processing and including graphics. The printer is most likely to print the text black on a white page, because you're*displaying* it in inverse, not painting it in those colours. And judging how a graphic fits into that scheme is difficult, too. -- . Xfce has what are probably the same settings options and I use all the appropriate ones for high contrast, text size, etc. Wherever possible I choose text not icons and white on black for the text. However all of that has little effect on Thunderbird and Firefox, even Midori and SeaMonkey which I also use where Firefox fails for me. The remaining problem is that the Thunderbird message text area seems to have grown smaller over the years. The window has the usual needed information at the top but in the center there is a large block of double spaced information much of which is already available at the top and all is readily available via menus provided. For me that center third of the display is just an annoyance, at least 7 of the 11 lines of the space it takes I would like to eliminate. Double clicking on the message list [opening?] changes the display and improves the space available for the message text, I prefer not to do that. So I began looking for an alternative e-mail application and thought Claws might be a possibility but it presents a different set of things to work around. That and the fact that we are stuck with a poor aspect ratio in the available monitors. A larger monitor monitor gives very little more room for text and I tend to use only about 12 inches of width for the message text to make it easier for me to follow from line to line with my vision ... Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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Allegedly, on or about 28 April 2016, Bob Goodwin sent: > I do make setup selections for high > contrast, even the high contrast icons, > DejaVuSans text, etc. but I don't know > of any _overall_ "reversed colour > scheme(bright on dark)" option? I am > able to use an option to get reverse > colors with pdf's in Evince and use that > often. I used to use Gnome, now I use Mate, but they both had (and Mate still does), options to set your display *look* preferences (Mate has it in the accessibility / universal access settings. Where you get a few choices for low, normal, high contrast, and high contrast & inverse. Gnome used to do it with Themes. The idea is that it sets the basic desktop colour scheme for most things (windows, menus, text foreground and backgrounds), and some desktops let you set them with RGB sliders rather than just give you some presets. However, you do come a cropper with some applications that either don't use the desktop colours in a logical fashion, or their display section takes their colours from the source of what they're displaying (such as anything that shows HTML). Likewise, it's confusing if you're word processing and including graphics. The printer is most likely to print the text black on a white page, because you're *displaying* it in inverse, not painting it in those colours. And judging how a graphic fits into that scheme is difficult, too. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. If you are not the intended recipient, why are you reading their email? You bastard! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/26/16 02:38, Tim wrote: I would have thought that you'd be configuring the overall operating system display preferences for high contrast, reversed colour scheme (bright on dark), and that programs like mail clients would inherit those options (ignoring HTML displays that set their own colours). . I do make setup selections for high contrast, even the high contrast icons, DejaVuSans text, etc. but I don't know of any _overall_ "reversed colour scheme(bright on dark)" option? I am able to use an option to get reverse colors with pdf's in Evince and use that often. I set Thunderbird to display white text on black, but that only controls the message text panel, the rest is the usual black on white, and I can make do with that until an appearance extension catches up. The latest Thunderbird leaves only the bottom third of this wide screen for the text. The rest is filled up with double spaced information, the center third being essentially a duplicate of information listed at the top third with a few lines I don't need, I don't routinely need Message ID and In Reply To. I know that extraneous information panel can be cleared by double clicking to open the message and add space for the message text but I don't usually open the message. I just finished a two days in the hospital after an incident with a horse and my "Claws" issues become lower priority for a while due to other things that need attention. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/26/16 01:21, g wrote: <> > what i did find is 2 urls for mozilla site that i had forgotten about. they > did not show up in search of bookmarks because i did not tag them with > 'userchrome.css', the are now. > >http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bad_Eyesight_-_Thunderbird >http://kb.mozillazine.org/White_on_black_-_Thunderbird > > unfortunately, 'white on black' does not mention quoted bar and text. > ===> read above links. open thunderbird, make these changes to thunderbird's "about:config"; browser.display.background_color #00 browser.display.foreground_color #FF browser.display.focus_text_color #FF editor.background_color#FF messagecompose.background_color#00 msgcompose.text_color #FF close thunderbird. to change colors for 'quoted text', check for a file; /home/bob/.thunderbird/.default/chrome/userContent.css if present, add below. if not, create and add below; /* replace colored bars with ">" */ .moz-text-plain blockquote[type=cite] {color: white;} {border: none !important; padding: 0 !important;} /* Quoted text in plain-text replies */ span[_moz_quote=true] {color: white;} save file. open thunderbird, do you now have white on black for emails being read, composed, and replied to. yes|no|maybe? need to do some weed whacking in backyard. back in about 1 hr. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On Mon, 2016-04-25 at 05:09 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > After this morning's dnf upgrade of > Thunderbird I would like to try Claws mail. > > I would like to configure claws to > display white text on a black background > but have not been able to find how to do > that. > > Suggestions appreciated. I would have thought that you'd be configuring the overall operating system display preferences for high contrast, reversed colour scheme (bright on dark), and that programs like mail clients would inherit those options (ignoring HTML displays that set their own colours). -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On 04/25/16 17:34, g wrote: <<>> > i looked for my notes on changing with "userChrome.css", but did not > find. > ===> finally. found notes with links to sites and pages for changing thunderbird foreground and background, have yet to find info for quoted bar and text. not all the way thru urls yet. what i did find is 2 urls for mozilla site that i had forgotten about. they did not show up in search of bookmarks because i did not tag them with 'userchrome.css', the are now. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bad_Eyesight_-_Thunderbird http://kb.mozillazine.org/White_on_black_-_Thunderbird unfortunately, 'white on black' does not mention quoted bar and text. i did find something on quoted text that i need to look further into. will play with it in morning and post results. eyes are burning from too much reading of small print and wrong eye glasses. later. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On 04/25/16 04:09, Bob Goodwin wrote: > After this morning's dnf upgrade of > Thunderbird I would like to try Claws mail. > > I would like to configure claws to > display white text on a black background > but have not been able to find how to do > that. > > Suggestions appreciated. > > Bob > > what you want is either a "userChrome.css" file for the changes or you can make changes in "about:config". i looked for my notes on changing with "userChrome.css", but did not find. with "about:config", set "Search:" to following names, change as shown; browser.display.background_color #00 browser.display.foreground_color #FF browser.display.focus_text_color #FF editor.background_color#FF messagecompose.background_color#00 msgcompose.text_color #FF note the 3 basic categories, _browser_, _edit_, _compose_, which relate to their window. if you use those names in search, you will see what you can change for colors just by looking for #xx in value column. 2 changes that i am not sure about, 'quote bar' and 'quoted text'. i did find a note on sites related to userChrome.css and will check them after i send this info so you can get some changes made. there are more that will/may need changing, depends on what you want links and email addresses, view and compose windows, address book. all of which depends on what you want. basicly, if you open "about:config" -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.7 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:41:23 -0700 stan wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 05:09:46 -0400 > Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > After this morning's dnf upgrade of > > Thunderbird I would like to try Claws mail. > > > > I would like to configure claws to > > display white text on a black background > > but have not been able to find how to do > > that. > > Hmmm, I've used claws for years, and haven't done this (I just use the > default black on white). And now I can't find a way to do it. A quick > search doesn't turn up anything. > > A couple of possibilities. > > In Configuration -> Preferences -> Display -> Colors -> Other, > it is possible to set the foreground and background colors for the > quote levels. I don't think this sets the ultimate background, but you > can display white text on black background. > > Or in Configuration -> Preferences -> Display -> Themes, you could try > out other themes. > > I haven't done either of these, but they hold out the most hope. Maybe > an expert will chime in here with the correct way to do this. And then > I *can* change the default layout. All that white is a little bright. > -- I have not used Claws-Mail for years, preferring sylpheed, but I believe that the "correct" way to do this is through the gtk settings. I used to have exactly the sort of foreground/background that Bob seems to want. Best wishes, Ranjan FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On 04/25/2016 07:07 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: However, dnf downgrade thunderbird, solves my immediate problems but I can see that Thunderbird changes are going in the wrong direction and I'm going to have to find a replacement ... To replace Thunderbird+html, you may try Seamonkey or Kmail -- Maderios -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On 04/25/16 05:55, maderios wrote: On 04/25/2016 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I would like to configure claws to display white text on a black background but have not been able to find how to do that. Hi 'Claws Mail will not let you write and send HTML emails or other kind of annoyances' http://www.claws-mail.org/documentation.php?section=general But you can display html messages with Fancy plugin -- Maderios + I can do without the html but with my poor vision I need the contrast I get with white text on black. However, dnf downgrade thunderbird, solves my immediate problems but I can see that Thunderbird changes are going in the wrong direction and I'm going to have to find a replacement ... Thanks, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-23/64bit LINUX XFCE POP3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 05:09:46 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > After this morning's dnf upgrade of > Thunderbird I would like to try Claws mail. > > I would like to configure claws to > display white text on a black background > but have not been able to find how to do > that. Hmmm, I've used claws for years, and haven't done this (I just use the default black on white). And now I can't find a way to do it. A quick search doesn't turn up anything. A couple of possibilities. In Configuration -> Preferences -> Display -> Colors -> Other, it is possible to set the foreground and background colors for the quote levels. I don't think this sets the ultimate background, but you can display white text on black background. Or in Configuration -> Preferences -> Display -> Themes, you could try out other themes. I haven't done either of these, but they hold out the most hope. Maybe an expert will chime in here with the correct way to do this. And then I *can* change the default layout. All that white is a little bright. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail -
On 04/25/2016 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I would like to configure claws to display white text on a black background but have not been able to find how to do that. Hi 'Claws Mail will not let you write and send HTML emails or other kind of annoyances' http://www.claws-mail.org/documentation.php?section=general But you can display html messages with Fancy plugin -- Maderios -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail and SSL certificates
bitlord writes: > On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 07:43 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > results in a complete verification of the certificate chain, ending > > with the root CA. The root ca is include in ca-certificates, so I > > would expect Claws to check there, rather than bothering me with > > accepting the same certificate over and over again. I cannot see any > > obvious way to tell claws where to look for root certificates, so I'm > > not sure if this is an intended (mis)feature, or it's a bug. > Depends on the version of claws-mail and libetpan, >=claws-mail-3.10 and > compiled with >=libetpan-1.4 (or 1.4.1) is able to properly verify > certificate chain, previous versions don't. On f20 it works fine after > upgrade (claws-mail-3.10.1 is available, and libetpan-1.5 from updates > repo). After an upgrade to fc20, I still see the same behaviour. Doing an strace at claws-mail, I find that the CA store is read: open("/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt", O_RDONLY) = 27 fstat(27, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=240762, ...}) = 0 fstat(27, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=240762, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f5ca4d67000 read(27, "-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-\nMIID"..., 237568) = Using openssl with the -CAfile option: openssl s_client -CAfile /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt \ -connect rollo.jernurt.dk:465 -verify 10 depth=2 C = IL, O = StartCom Ltd., OU = Secure Digital Certificate Signing, CN = StartCom Certification Authority verify return:1 depth=1 C = IL, O = StartCom Ltd., OU = Secure Digital Certificate Signing, CN = StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA verify return:1 depth=0 description = 3zqC63tmwY0q4Q1r, C = DK, CN = rollo.jernurt.dk, emailAddress = postmas...@jernurt.dk verify return:1 ... Start Time: 1406233112 Timeout : 300 (sec) Verify return code: 0 (ok) So clearly, the certificate chain should be verifiable. But still claws complains that the Certificate is unknown. [awj@localhost ~]$ rpm -q claws-mail libetpan claws-mail-3.10.1-1.fc20.x86_64 libetpan-1.5-1.fc20.x86_64 -- /Wegge Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail and SSL certificates
On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 08:53 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > bitlord writes: > > > Depends on the version of claws-mail and libetpan, >=claws-mail-3.10 > > and compiled with >=libetpan-1.4 (or 1.4.1) is able to properly > > verify certificate chain, previous versions don't. On f20 it works > > fine after upgrade (claws-mail-3.10.1 is available, and libetpan-1.5 > > from updates repo). > > Okay, time to upgrade then. I'm running F19 with claws 3.9.3 and > libetpan 1.1. Thanks for the info. > -- > /Wegge > > Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.* Also you can test it from 'updates-testing' repo in f19 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-6774 with command like this (or similar) (It will probably pull in latest libetpan as a dependency, if not, you can add it to the list (you probably know how to do it ;-) # yum --enablerepo updates-testing update claws-mail* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail and SSL certificates
bitlord writes: > Depends on the version of claws-mail and libetpan, >=claws-mail-3.10 > and compiled with >=libetpan-1.4 (or 1.4.1) is able to properly > verify certificate chain, previous versions don't. On f20 it works > fine after upgrade (claws-mail-3.10.1 is available, and libetpan-1.5 > from updates repo). Okay, time to upgrade then. I'm running F19 with claws 3.9.3 and libetpan 1.1. Thanks for the info. -- /Wegge Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws mail and SSL certificates
On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 07:43 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > When acessing my mail, news or whatever from Claws Mail, I invariably > get at message, telling that the SSL certificate is unknown. However, > connecting to the same server with > > openssl s_client -connect rollo.jernurt.dk:993 -verify 5 > > results in a complete verification of the certificate chain, ending > with the root CA. The root ca is include in ca-certificates, so I > would expect Claws to check there, rather than bothering me with > accepting the same certificate over and over again. I cannot see any > obvious way to tell claws where to look for root certificates, so I'm > not sure if this is an intended (mis)feature, or it's a bug. > > -- > /Wegge > > Leder efter redundant peering af dk.*,linux.debian.* Depends on the version of claws-mail and libetpan, >=claws-mail-3.10 and compiled with >=libetpan-1.4 (or 1.4.1) is able to properly verify certificate chain, previous versions don't. On f20 it works fine after upgrade (claws-mail-3.10.1 is available, and libetpan-1.5 from updates repo). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:20:13 +0200 Maurizio Marini wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:04:19 -0600 > Peter Reed wrote: > > > > I am running KDE on Fedora 17 fully updated although I am running > are u using oxigen-gtk ? > as discussed on claws-mail users ml, the issue seems to be tighted to > this theme, if u switch to another theme u will not have the issue. > I Repor here the post > > [quote] > I'm not seeing this, but I've had some similar issues in the past on > KDE with oxygen-gtk bugs (the last time I noticed was in late July). > I've (at least for now) given up on the oxygen theme for that (KDE > Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance) and switched > to Adwaita, and I'm not having the problem now. I think I'm cc'd on > what looked like a relevant bug in the Fedora Bugzilla, but I can't > find the number right now. George Avrunin > [/quote] > > -m As a matter of fact I am using the oxygen-gtk theme I will try another and what do you know it fixed the problem. Changed the theme to Clearlooks and it is working fine. Thanks for the research and help. Peter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:04:19 -0600 Peter Reed wrote: > I am running KDE on Fedora 17 fully updated although I am running are u using oxigen-gtk ? as discussed on claws-mail users ml, the issue seems to be tighted to this theme, if u switch to another theme u will not have the issue. I Repor here the post [quote] I'm not seeing this, but I've had some similar issues in the past on KDE with oxygen-gtk bugs (the last time I noticed was in late July). I've (at least for now) given up on the oxygen theme for that (KDE Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance) and switched to Adwaita, and I'm not having the problem now. I think I'm cc'd on what looked like a relevant bug in the Fedora Bugzilla, but I can't find the number right now. George Avrunin [/quote] -m smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:31:50 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:31:35 -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > > > Once you switch identities, the mail service you are going to send > > the mail from, you are no longer able to compose the mail. Don't > > use imap only pop. Also as aside if you change identities in one > > mail compose window all subsequent windows will also be read-only. > > It stays this way indefinitely. > > As pointed out, I cannot reproduce anything like that. > To be more specific, not even with multiple open compose windows, > I can reproduce it. All windows here stay active/editable. > > Do you run normal GNOME Shell or a different environment? > Perhaps you could describe the "steps to reproduce" more > accurately? > I am running KDE on Fedora 17 fully updated although I am running KDE-testing. The steps to reproduce are easy, open with compose or reply button and then change the from address and you will not be able to edit the email. OK, while was writing this email I just happened to push the from change button, did not change it just pressed the button and was no longer able to edit the email. Open another compose window and was able to edit that, closed the new window and was able to edit the original compose window. Just plain weird. Peter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On 09/05/2012 04:27 PM, Fedora User uttered this comment: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 00:31 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:31:35 -0600, Peter Reed wrote: As pointed out, I cannot reproduce anything like that. To be more specific, not even with multiple open compose windows, I can reproduce it. All windows here stay active/editable. I experienced similar behavior and ended up switching to Evolution. Any drop-down selection makes it impossible to write to any field without exiting and then re-starting CM. I experienced this using CM within KDE. I have a mix of IMAP and POP3 accounts. I'm using Thunderbird under XFCE with both POP3 and IMAP and have no problem with multiple accounts. When you reply or create a new message, the "From" portion gives you a drop-down to specify which account you want to send from. And you can have multiple compose windows open, each from different accounts. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - To err is human, to moo bovine. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 00:31 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:31:35 -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > > As pointed out, I cannot reproduce anything like that. > To be more specific, not even with multiple open compose windows, > I can reproduce it. All windows here stay active/editable. > I experienced similar behavior and ended up switching to Evolution. Any drop-down selection makes it impossible to write to any field without exiting and then re-starting CM. I experienced this using CM within KDE. I have a mix of IMAP and POP3 accounts. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:31:35 -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > Once you switch identities, the mail service you are going to send > the mail from, you are no longer able to compose the mail. Don't use > imap only pop. Also as aside if you change identities in one mail > compose window all subsequent windows will also be readonly. It stays > this way indefinitely. As pointed out, I cannot reproduce anything like that. To be more specific, not even with multiple open compose windows, I can reproduce it. All windows here stay active/editable. Do you run normal GNOME Shell or a different environment? Perhaps you could describe the "steps to reproduce" more accurately? -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.07 0.21 0.30 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:19:35 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 06:45:16 -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:39:14 +0200 > > Maurizio Marini wrote: > > > > > Fedora 17 x86_64 > > > to reproduce the bug: > > > > > > 1. compose > > > 2. click on from combo box to select another identity > > > u can select or not something > > > 3. the body now is readonly > > > you can't write in anything > > > > > > it's only me to have it or others does ? > > > in this case i can file a bug > > > 10x > > > > > > -m > > > > I can confirm this. > > I can't. It's a feature I use regularly. > > How long did you wait before deciding that the message text stays > readonly? Did you try to switch to different IMAP accounts? > Can you start Claws Mail in a terminal (possibly with --debug option) > to try whether it prints any warning/error? > Once you switch identities, the mail service you are going to send the mail from, you are no longer able to compose the mail. Don't use imap only pop. Also as aside if you change identities in one mail compose window all subsequent windows will also be readonly. It stays this way indefinitely. Peter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:08:00 +0200, Maurizio Marini wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:19:35 +0200 > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > I can't. It's a feature I use regularly. > do u have 3.8.1? Of course. As can be seen in the headers of my reply, btw. > > How long did you wait before deciding that the message text stays readonly? > i don't wait at all, i click on identities and then on body area Here the cursor keeps blinking after I've switched "From". I can switch to any of the six accounts here without problems. Several are remote IMAP. I've disabled the external editor to test this. The reason I ask about "waiting" is that sometimes drafts are saved, which can block Claws Mail while it's waiting for an IMAP response. > > Did you try to switch to different IMAP accounts? > yes i did > > > Can you start Claws Mail in a terminal (possibly with --debug option) to > > try whether it prints any warning/error? > i just did, no errors, no warning > > anyway, it's enough to click on some menus to unblock the body area, it's a > bug > with which I can live together :) You could report it at Claws Mail upstream, http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/index.cgi or discuss it with the developers first: http://www.claws-mail.org/devel.php?section=projects -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.18 0.11 0.14 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:19:35 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > I can't. It's a feature I use regularly. do u have 3.8.1? > > How long did you wait before deciding that the message text stays readonly? i don't wait at all, i click on identities and then on body area > Did you try to switch to different IMAP accounts? yes i did > Can you start Claws Mail in a terminal (possibly with --debug option) to > try whether it prints any warning/error? i just did, no errors, no warning anyway, it's enough to click on some menus to unblock the body area, it's a bug with which I can live together :) -m smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 06:45:16 -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:39:14 +0200 > Maurizio Marini wrote: > > > Fedora 17 x86_64 > > to reproduce the bug: > > > > 1. compose > > 2. click on from combo box to select another identity > > u can select or not something > > 3. the body now is readonly > > you can't write in anything > > > > it's only me to have it or others does ? > > in this case i can file a bug > > 10x > > > > -m > > I can confirm this. I can't. It's a feature I use regularly. How long did you wait before deciding that the message text stays readonly? Did you try to switch to different IMAP accounts? Can you start Claws Mail in a terminal (possibly with --debug option) to try whether it prints any warning/error? -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.05 0.04 0.05 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: claws-mail 3.8.1 bug
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:39:14 +0200 Maurizio Marini wrote: > Fedora 17 x86_64 > to reproduce the bug: > > 1. compose > 2. click on from combo box to select another identity > u can select or not something > 3. the body now is readonly > you can't write in anything > > it's only me to have it or others does ? > in this case i can file a bug > 10x > > -m I can confirm this. Peter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org