Re: VLC in Fedora vs RPMFusion

2023-12-24 Thread fedora

On 25/12/23 02:20, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

I just did an upgrade on my Fedora 38(-ish) machine and dnf wants to
replace the rpmfusion version of vlc:

   Name: vlc
   Epoch   : 1
   Version : 3.0.19
   Release : 0.7.fc39
   Architecture: x86_64
   Install Date: Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:56:54 BST
   Group   : Unspecified
   Size: 4639016
   License : GPLv2+
   Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:39:41 BST, Key ID 
e06f8ecdd651ff2e
   Source RPM  : vlc-3.0.19-0.7.fc39.src.rpm
   Build Date  : Sun 06 Aug 2023 16:42:50 BST
   Build Host  : buildvm-07.virt.rpmfusion.net
   Packager: RPM Fusion
   Vendor  : RPM Fusion
   URL : https://www.videolan.org
   Summary : The cross-platform open-source multimedia framework, player 
and server
   Description :
   VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia 
framework
   capable of reading most audio and video formats as well as DVDs, Audio CDs 
VCDs,
   and various streaming protocols.
   It can also be used as a media converter or a server to stream in uni-cast or
   multi-cast in IPv4 or IPv6 on networks.

with a version from Fedora updates:

   Name : vlc
   Epoch: 1
   Version  : 3.0.20
   Release  : 4.fc38
   Architecture : x86_64
   Size : 189 k
   Source   : vlc-3.0.20-4.fc38.src.rpm
   Repository   : updates
   Summary  : The cross-platform open-source multimedia framework, player 
and
: server
   URL  : https://www.videolan.org
   License  : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later AND BSD-2-Clause AND
: BSD-3-Clause
   Description  : VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and
: multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video
: formats as well as DVDs, Audio CDs VCDs, and various streaming
: protocols. It can also be used as a media converter or a 
server
: to stream in uni-cast or multi-cast in IPv4 or IPv6 on 
networks.

(Actually the upgrade was a bit more complicated, replacing vlc-core
with vlc-cli and adding a bunch of plugins.)

Is there some advantage here?  I don't want to lose the ability to
playback weird / proprietary stuff, which is (I assume) why I needed
to use vlc from rpmfusion.

Also is there a web page that discusses this stuff?  Google search is
so full of "install vlc for fedora" spam sites that it's really hard
to find anything relevant.

Rich.


First thing I noticed is that my vlc panels started failing because the 
--http-proxy option was removed.

Also some links show a message, e.g.:
$ /bin/vlc http://www.abc.net.au/res/streaming/audio/mp3/abc_jazz.pls
VLC media player 3.0.20 Vetinari (revision 3.0.20-0-g6f0d0ab126b)
[55fb8f6fd400] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 
'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[7fb84c0044c0] access stream error: HTTP connection failure
[7fb84c0044c0] main stream error: read error: Connection reset by peer
[7fb84c0044c0] http stream error: failed to read answer
[7fb84c003430] access stream error: HTTP connection failure

and popup window:
Your input can't be opened:
    VLC is unable to open the MRL 
'http://live-radio01.mediahubaustralia.com/JAZW/mp3/'. Check the log for 
details.

but they still play. I guess one of the two .pls redirects is not always 
responding? This is new.

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Re: VLC in Fedora vs RPMFusion

2023-12-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
> Am 24.12.23 um 16:20 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:
> >Is there some advantage here?  I don't want to lose the ability to
> >playback weird / proprietary stuff, which is (I assume) why I needed
> >to use vlc from rpmfusion.
> 
> I think, this posting says enough:
> https://twitter.com/rpmfusion_team/status/1735617564527472862
> 
> RHAT/Fedora has taken over vlc and pushed incompatible changes midst
> of the lifetime of a released Fedora.

Thanks, this explains the change (which I've blocked with an
"excludes" ... for now).  The bug report is more informative:

https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6816

> IMO, this is entirely inappropriate and should not have happened.

It does seem rather rude and should have been done in a more
thoughtful way.

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Re: VLC in Fedora vs RPMFusion

2023-12-24 Thread Go Canes
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 10:21 AM Richard W.M. Jones  wrote:
>
> I just did an upgrade on my Fedora 38(-ish) machine and dnf wants to
> replace the rpmfusion version of vlc:

[vlc 3.0.19 from rpmfusion -> 3.0.20 from fedora-updates]

> Is there some advantage here?

One change I have noticed (also on f38) is that the Santa Hat is
missing using 3.0.20 from fedora-updates.  Whether this is an
advantage or disadvantage is up to personal opinion.

> Also is there a web page that discusses this stuff?

I wasn't able to find anything documenting the Santa Hat change, but I
have to assume that Fedora chose to remove or disable it.  There were
several pages on how to disable/enable it, but I was unable to find
the specified option in the Fedora version.  For now I have reverted
back to 3.0.19 from rpmfusion, and added an exclude for vlc to
fedora-updates.
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Re: VLC in Fedora vs RPMFusion

2023-12-24 Thread Ralf Corsépius



Am 24.12.23 um 16:20 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:

Is there some advantage here?  I don't want to lose the ability to
playback weird / proprietary stuff, which is (I assume) why I needed
to use vlc from rpmfusion.


I think, this posting says enough:
https://twitter.com/rpmfusion_team/status/1735617564527472862

RHAT/Fedora has taken over vlc and pushed incompatible changes midst of 
the lifetime of a released Fedora.


IMO, this is entirely inappropriate and should not have happened.

Ralf
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VLC in Fedora vs RPMFusion

2023-12-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I just did an upgrade on my Fedora 38(-ish) machine and dnf wants to
replace the rpmfusion version of vlc:

  Name: vlc
  Epoch   : 1
  Version : 3.0.19
  Release : 0.7.fc39
  Architecture: x86_64
  Install Date: Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:56:54 BST
  Group   : Unspecified
  Size: 4639016
  License : GPLv2+
  Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:39:41 BST, Key ID 
e06f8ecdd651ff2e
  Source RPM  : vlc-3.0.19-0.7.fc39.src.rpm
  Build Date  : Sun 06 Aug 2023 16:42:50 BST
  Build Host  : buildvm-07.virt.rpmfusion.net
  Packager: RPM Fusion
  Vendor  : RPM Fusion
  URL : https://www.videolan.org
  Summary : The cross-platform open-source multimedia framework, player and 
server
  Description :
  VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia 
framework
  capable of reading most audio and video formats as well as DVDs, Audio CDs 
VCDs,
  and various streaming protocols.
  It can also be used as a media converter or a server to stream in uni-cast or
  multi-cast in IPv4 or IPv6 on networks.

with a version from Fedora updates:

  Name : vlc
  Epoch: 1
  Version  : 3.0.20
  Release  : 4.fc38
  Architecture : x86_64
  Size : 189 k
  Source   : vlc-3.0.20-4.fc38.src.rpm
  Repository   : updates
  Summary  : The cross-platform open-source multimedia framework, player and
   : server
  URL  : https://www.videolan.org
  License  : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later AND BSD-2-Clause AND
   : BSD-3-Clause
  Description  : VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and
   : multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video
   : formats as well as DVDs, Audio CDs VCDs, and various streaming
   : protocols. It can also be used as a media converter or a server
   : to stream in uni-cast or multi-cast in IPv4 or IPv6 on 
networks.

(Actually the upgrade was a bit more complicated, replacing vlc-core
with vlc-cli and adding a bunch of plugins.)

Is there some advantage here?  I don't want to lose the ability to
playback weird / proprietary stuff, which is (I assume) why I needed
to use vlc from rpmfusion.

Also is there a web page that discusses this stuff?  Google search is
so full of "install vlc for fedora" spam sites that it's really hard
to find anything relevant.

Rich.

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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-30 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> If you open VLC's media information window (in the tools menu),
>> when it is connected, does it give you any useful info about the
>> stream it's currently playing?

Alex:
> It just displays "udp://127.0.0.1:5000" in the Title.

You'd need to look in the *location* box, that'd show the URL that VLC
is working with. The *title* is just the name it wants you to see, it
can be set differently. Though may just be the same as the address.

UDP, unless there's more than one thing with the same name, is just a
very basic part of TCP/IP data transmissions. There needs to be a
handling protocol for what you're doing (which could use UDP or TCP for
the actual data transmission).

e.g. Web pages are viewed using HTTP over TCP. HTTP is how you request
what you want, and how it's handled in sending it to you. The data
packets are TCP transmissions.

If I watch a video stream (from something else) on VLC, I see something
like this in the location gadget: rtsp://frontdoor:554/ch01/1/

 * rtsp is a streaming protocol (real time streaming protocol) which
   could use UDP or TCP, but video streaming tends to use UDP.  With
   UDP, data is just streamed at it, and any transmission losses are
   ignored presuming that you can put up with a tiny blip between data,
   missing data, more data, more data, bits missing, more data, etc.
   TCP has more integrity, and reassembles the chunks of data in the
   correct order, but can be a problem if the stream loses chunks - it
   needs some other way to skip past it and just keep on going.
 * frontdoor is the hostname for a particular device
 * 554 is the port
 * And the other two /ch01/1/ URL parts are the request for a
   particular datastream from the device


I suspect you're going to strike another problem. Whatever viewer they
use not only has to decode and display the stream, but give you some
way to select what you want to watch. Unless you have some remote
control device that directly controls their box, I don't know how you'd
select one program from another.

Some developer info gives some clues:
https://info.hdhomerun.com/info/http_api

Which suggests some sort of webpage interface. I'm guessing some kind
of menu, you choose your program to watch, it'll come back on a
specific URL that'll open in your viewing program. Maybe they've
created their own mimetype, just called it udp.

Another page talks about RTP:
https://info.hdhomerun.com/info/hdhomerun_config
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-30 Thread Alex
Hi,

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 2:48 PM Tim via users 
wrote:

> On Wed, 2023-11-29 at 11:02 -0500, Alex wrote:
> > I contacted silicondust support, and they said any application that
> > supports DNLA will work, but apparently weren't able to tell me how
> > vlc specifically is being spawned. It's definitely launched by
> > HDHomeRun, but I can't find anything in the documentation or any
> > local config files that describes how that's happening.
>
> If you open VLC's media information window (in the tools menu), when it
> is connected, does it give you any useful info about the stream it's
> currently playing?
>

It just displays "udp://127.0.0.1:5000" in the Title.

>
> I could guess that their box has some kind of webserver that you may be
> able to aim VLC at (using the box's IP address).
>

It does, but there's no ability to control which app is used.

This was also confirmed by silicondust support in a roundabout way, at
least. They said there's no ability to configure which app is used.

It appears to me that it's hardcoded/compiled into the HDHomeRun app.
strings and strace on a running binary appears to confirm this.

Oh, I've also now looked at the fedora SRPM and see that it's hardcoded:

$ grep -r vlc *
src/Viewer.cpp: ExeName = "vlc";
src/Viewer.cpp: OSStatus appStatus =
LSFindApplicationForInfo(kLSUnknownCreator, CFSTR("org.videolan.vlc"),
NULL, NULL, );
src/Viewer.cpp: g_string_sprintf(DebugPrefix, "%08lX-%u vlc:", (unsigned
long)Dev->DeviceID, Dev->TunerIndex);

I also tried to follow the instructions on starting vlc first from the
command-line, so I can later try it with smplayer, but couldn't get it to
work:
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1924

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-29 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-11-29 at 11:02 -0500, Alex wrote:
> I contacted silicondust support, and they said any application that
> supports DNLA will work, but apparently weren't able to tell me how
> vlc specifically is being spawned. It's definitely launched by
> HDHomeRun, but I can't find anything in the documentation or any
> local config files that describes how that's happening.

If you open VLC's media information window (in the tools menu), when it
is connected, does it give you any useful info about the stream it's
currently playing?

DNLA is a set of (alleged) standards about home network streaming.  I
might guess it needs mDNS (Avahi/ZeroConf) working for the source
device to be automatically found by any player devices.  It seemed to
be working that way when I used a smart TV to look at files on a NAS
with a media server built into it (as to how it found the NAS drives by
itself).

My dabbling with this kind of thing is quite out of date.  A friend
used some Western Digital media players connected to his TV set, many
years ago.  They'd find his media store (NAS drives, if I remember
correctly, though could have been SMB shares), and the WD media players
would trawl through the available contents generating an on-screen menu
of things to watch.

I could guess that their box has some kind of webserver that you may be
able to aim VLC at (using the box's IP address).

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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-29 Thread Roger Heflin
if you installed their software then it could be doing anything.  it
is very likely that they do not have anyone still around who remembers
what the software does.  You would have to look at it and see if it is
a bunch of scripts and/or how it works.

I use my HDhomeruns via mythtv.  The hardest part of mythtv is the
initial setup, once you get it setup about all I have had to do is
update the channel list and/or run a scan every so often because the
broadcast channels keep changing frequencies.

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:03 AM Alex  wrote:
>
>
>> ps ax | grep -E 'tty2|pts/21' and see what is starting it on those terminals.
>
>
> Virtually everything started after logging in.
>
> I contacted silicondust support, and they said any application that supports 
> DNLA will work, but apparently weren't able to tell me how vlc specifically 
> is being spawned. It's definitely launched by HDHomeRun, but I can't find 
> anything in the documentation or any local config files that describes how 
> that's happening.
>
> Their documentation appears to indicate you have to first set the UDP port 
> after starting vlc, but that's not even necessary with the way it's somehow 
> configured on my system.
>
> Any ideas greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:19 PM Alex  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:14 PM ToddAndMargo via users 
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 11/27/23 09:29, Alex wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
>> >> > hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a
>> >> > recommendation for a similar app I can use for streaming?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
>> >> > supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
>> >> > can with vlc.
>> >> >
>> >> > btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
>> >> >
>> >> > [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
>> >> > discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Alex
>> >>
>> >> Hi Alex,
>> >>
>> >> I could ot stand all the bugs in vlc so I switched to SMPlayer.
>> >> I stream music all the time.
>> >>
>> >> Here is my keeper on SMPlayer:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is very helpful, thanks. I already had RPM Fusion installed, and now 
>> > also have smplayer installed.
>> >
>> > However, my HDHomeRun config appears to be linked directly to vlc, and I 
>> > don't know how to change it to instead spawn smplayer.
>> >
>> > $ ps ax|grep vlc
>> > 2963508 tty2 Sl+0:03 /usr/bin/vlc --started-from-file
>> > 2964260 pts/21   Sl+0:01 vlc --deinterlace=-1 udp://@127.0.0.1:5000
>> >
>> > Where is it getting this config info from? I've tried resetting the vlc 
>> > config, and have searched through the menus looking for something related 
>> > to UDP 5000 and don't see anything. I've also tried to figure out how 
>> > HDHomeRun is launching vlc from a file(?), but also don't see anything 
>> > there, unless it's talking about the socket...
>> >
>> > Any ideas greatly appreciated.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Alex
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-29 Thread Alex
> ps ax | grep -E 'tty2|pts/21' and see what is starting it on those
> terminals.
>

Virtually everything started after logging in.

I contacted silicondust support, and they said any application that
supports DNLA will work, but apparently weren't able to tell me how vlc
specifically is being spawned. It's definitely launched by HDHomeRun, but I
can't find anything in the documentation or any local config files that
describes how that's happening.

Their documentation appears to indicate you have to first set the UDP port
after starting vlc, but that's not even necessary with the way it's somehow
configured on my system.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Alex





>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:19 PM Alex  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:14 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
> users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/27/23 09:29, Alex wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
> >> > hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a
> >> > recommendation for a similar app I can use for streaming?
> >> >
> >> > I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
> >> > supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket
> like I
> >> > can with vlc.
> >> >
> >> > btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
> >> >
> >> > [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
> >> > discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Alex
> >>
> >> Hi Alex,
> >>
> >> I could ot stand all the bugs in vlc so I switched to SMPlayer.
> >> I stream music all the time.
> >>
> >> Here is my keeper on SMPlayer:
> >
> >
> > That is very helpful, thanks. I already had RPM Fusion installed, and
> now also have smplayer installed.
> >
> > However, my HDHomeRun config appears to be linked directly to vlc, and I
> don't know how to change it to instead spawn smplayer.
> >
> > $ ps ax|grep vlc
> > 2963508 tty2     Sl+0:03 /usr/bin/vlc --started-from-file
> > 2964260 pts/21   Sl+0:01 vlc --deinterlace=-1 udp://@127.0.0.1:5000
> >
> > Where is it getting this config info from? I've tried resetting the vlc
> config, and have searched through the menus looking for something related
> to UDP 5000 and don't see anything. I've also tried to figure out how
> HDHomeRun is launching vlc from a file(?), but also don't see anything
> there, unless it's talking about the socket...
> >
> > Any ideas greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread Roger Heflin
ps ax | grep -E 'tty2|pts/21' and see what is starting it on those terminals.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:19 PM Alex  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:14 PM ToddAndMargo via users 
>  wrote:
>>
>> On 11/27/23 09:29, Alex wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
>> > hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a
>> > recommendation for a similar app I can use for streaming?
>> >
>> > I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
>> > supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
>> > can with vlc.
>> >
>> > btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
>> >
>> > [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
>> > discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Alex
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I could ot stand all the bugs in vlc so I switched to SMPlayer.
>> I stream music all the time.
>>
>> Here is my keeper on SMPlayer:
>
>
> That is very helpful, thanks. I already had RPM Fusion installed, and now 
> also have smplayer installed.
>
> However, my HDHomeRun config appears to be linked directly to vlc, and I 
> don't know how to change it to instead spawn smplayer.
>
> $ ps ax|grep vlc
> 2963508 tty2 Sl+0:03 /usr/bin/vlc --started-from-file
> 2964260 pts/21   Sl+0:01 vlc --deinterlace=-1 udp://@127.0.0.1:5000
>
> Where is it getting this config info from? I've tried resetting the vlc 
> config, and have searched through the menus looking for something related to 
> UDP 5000 and don't see anything. I've also tried to figure out how HDHomeRun 
> is launching vlc from a file(?), but also don't see anything there, unless 
> it's talking about the socket...
>
> Any ideas greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Alex
>>
>>
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread Alex
Hi,

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:14 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 11/27/23 09:29, Alex wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
> > hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a
> > recommendation for a similar app I can use for streaming?
> >
> > I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
> > supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
> > can with vlc.
> >
> > btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
> >
> > [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
> > discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> I could ot stand all the bugs in vlc so I switched to SMPlayer.
> I stream music all the time.
>
> Here is my keeper on SMPlayer:
>

That is very helpful, thanks. I already had RPM Fusion installed, and now
also have smplayer installed.

However, my HDHomeRun config appears to be linked directly to vlc, and I
don't know how to change it to instead spawn smplayer.

$ ps ax|grep vlc
2963508 tty2 Sl+0:03 /usr/bin/vlc --started-from-file
2964260 pts/21   Sl+0:01 vlc --deinterlace=-1 udp://@127.0.0.1:5000

Where is it getting this config info from? I've tried resetting the vlc
config, and have searched through the menus looking for something related
to UDP 5000 and don't see anything. I've also tried to figure out how
HDHomeRun is launching vlc from a file(?), but also don't see anything
there, unless it's talking about the socket...

Any ideas greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Alex

>
>
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/27/23 09:29, Alex wrote:

Hi,
I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that 
hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a 
recommendation for a similar app I can use for streaming?


I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it 
supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I 
can with vlc.


btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:

[7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS 
discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112


Thanks,
Alex


Hi Alex,

I could ot stand all the bugs in vlc so I switched to SMPlayer.
I stream music all the time.

Here is my keeper on SMPlayer:

-T


How to install SMPlayer and to get it to work:


Enable RPM Fusion:
https://ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-rpm-fusion-repository-in-fedora-rhel/

Free and non-free all at once:
# dnf install 
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm 
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm 
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm 
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm


Free
# dnf install 
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm 
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm


Non-free
# dnf install 
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm 
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm




Codec support (for VLC and smplayer):
   Note: make sure you have RPM Fusion insalled.  See above

https://ostechnix.com/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-in-fedora-linux/
   # dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-{bad-\*,good-\*,base} 
gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 gstreamer1-libav 
--exclude=gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel


   # dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-{bad-*,good-*,base} 
gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 gstreamer1-libav 
--exclude=gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel


   # dnf install lame* --exclude=lame-devel

   # dnf group upgrade --with-optional Multimedia

   If problem ocure:
  # dnf group upgrade --with-optional --allowerasing Multimedia
  # dnf group upgrade --with-optional --skip-broken Multimedia

   # dnf install gstreamer1-plugins-{bad-\*,good-\*,base} 
gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 gstreamer1-libav 
--exclude=gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel


   # dnf install lame\* --exclude=lame-devel

   # dnf group upgrade --with-optional Multimedia



Install SMPlayer:
   # dnf install smplayer


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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread Roger Heflin
ffplay is command line and seems to be able play streams.

I think mplayer works for streams but the format of the connection
stream may be odd.

And if you are using an hdhomerun you could just wire it up to mythtv
and let it record the stream(s) and then you watch it a few seconds
behind via mythtv's frontend.   I have 4 (3 still working, need to get
another power unit) hdhomeruns tuners.


On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 12:24 PM Ranjan Maitra via users
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>
> Alex,
>
> I am not sure it does whatever you want, but for streaming youtube and 
> similar videos online, I find mpv to be quite sufficient and good for my 
> needs.
>
> HTH!
>
> Best wishes,
> Ranjan
>
> On Mon Nov27'23 06:46:04PM, Mario Marietto wrote:
> > From: Mario Marietto 
> > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:46:04 +0100
> > To: Community support for Fedora users 
> > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> > Subject: Re: vlc alternative?
> >
> > obs studio ?
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 6:31 PM Alex  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
> > > hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a 
> > > recommendation
> > > for a similar app I can use for streaming?
> > >
> > > I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
> > > supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
> > > can with vlc.
> > >
> > > btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
> > >
> > > [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
> > > discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alex
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
Alex,

I am not sure it does whatever you want, but for streaming youtube and similar 
videos online, I find mpv to be quite sufficient and good for my needs.

HTH!

Best wishes,
Ranjan

On Mon Nov27'23 06:46:04PM, Mario Marietto wrote:
> From: Mario Marietto 
> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:46:04 +0100
> To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: vlc alternative?
>
> obs studio ?
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 6:31 PM Alex  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
> > hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a recommendation
> > for a similar app I can use for streaming?
> >
> > I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
> > supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
> > can with vlc.
> >
> > btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
> >
> > [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
> > discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
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Re: vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread Mario Marietto
obs studio ?

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 6:31 PM Alex  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that
> hasn't been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a recommendation
> for a similar app I can use for streaming?
>
> I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
> supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
> can with vlc.
>
> btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:
>
> [7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
> discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
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vlc alternative?

2023-11-27 Thread Alex
Hi,
I'm using vlc with my hdhomerun TV tuner, but vlc has a problem that hasn't
been fixed for a really long time. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
similar app I can use for streaming?

I'm really only otherwise familiar with mplayer, but I don't think it
supports streaming in this way where I can connect it to a socket like I
can with vlc.

btw, the vlc error involves messages like these:

[7fb3a4001130] ts demux error: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS
discontinuity (received 10, expected 9) for PID 112

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: Broken Packages DNF update /Dorian Rosse/Tom Horsley. FFmpeg / VLC.

2023-08-10 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/10/23 12:28, Ger van Dijck wrote:
In the recent past I had problems with skipping packages with broken 
dependencies : ffmpeg-libs , libavdevice : Dorian Rosse adviced to 
install with  " rpmfind ffmpeg-libs and libavdevice".


No result.

Tom Horsley did advice  "dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing".

Result  skip broken dependencies ffmpeg (new !) , ffmpeg-libs , 
libavdevice : So no result.


I solved the problem with dnf update ffmpeg --allowerase and all 
problems where sollved.


Now Tom has a new problem with VLC player. Well so have I : What is 
wrong with ffmpeg ?


Dnf wants to update Live 555 to 2023.06.20-2.f38 , when doing so the vlc 
player cannot be launched anymore.


So I found the following solution "dnf install vlc" : The result a 
downgrade on Live 555 and big surprice all (VLC) runs fine !


So do not update Live 555.

One way or another I have the impression that DNF is for the most of us 
to complex.


It has nothing particularly to do with dnf itself.  The problem is 
between the Fedora repos and rpmfusion repos.  It's difficult to 
coordinate releasing updates at the same time, so sometimes there is a 
delay between dependent packages getting released.  If you wait a few 
days, it should be resolved.


If you install packages from rpmfusion, you have to realize that you 
might occasionally have update issues.

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Broken Packages DNF update /Dorian Rosse/Tom Horsley. FFmpeg / VLC.

2023-08-10 Thread Ger van Dijck

Hello All,

In the recent past I had problems with skipping packages with broken 
dependencies : ffmpeg-libs , libavdevice : Dorian Rosse adviced to 
install with  " rpmfind ffmpeg-libs and libavdevice".


No result.

Tom Horsley did advice  "dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing".

Result  skip broken dependencies ffmpeg (new !) , ffmpeg-libs , 
libavdevice : So no result.


I solved the problem with dnf update ffmpeg --allowerase and all 
problems where sollved.


Now Tom has a new problem with VLC player. Well so have I : What is 
wrong with ffmpeg ?


Dnf wants to update Live 555 to 2023.06.20-2.f38 , when doing so the vlc 
player cannot be launched anymore.


So I found the following solution "dnf install vlc" : The result a 
downgrade on Live 555 and big surprice all (VLC) runs fine !


So do not update Live 555.

One way or another I have the impression that DNF is for the most of us 
to complex.



Nice to hear from you all.



Ger van Dijck.


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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/10/23 08:43, Go Canes wrote:

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:22 AM stan via users
 wrote:


On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:17:37 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users  wrote:


On 4/8/23 19:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 4/8/23 17:11, Go Canes wrote:

I'm curious what bugs you are encountering.


When I get a few 20 minutes, I will list them



vlc-3.0.18-2.fc37.x86_64

[snipped list of irritating behaviors]

VLC has started to annoy the snot out of me with
all the above bugs.  Time for me to switch away
from VLC.


Wow!  NOT a good fit for your use case.  Like walking with a stone
in your shoe. Life has too many irritations already, great to get rid of
some of them.


Agree that if vlc isn't fit for OP's purpose, then find another player.


I would never hit these.  It sounds like you could probably use an
audio player like audacious instead, since you aren't bothering with
the video.


If vlc is being launched from the command-line, one can try the
"--novideo" option.  There should be a similar option available via
the menus.



Occasionally, I will go through and dump the video.
Here are my notes:



ffmpeg to convert MP4, webm movies to audio only OGG:


$ dnf whatprovides ffmpeg

ffmpeg-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64 : Digital VCR and streaming server
Repo: @System
Matched from:
Provide: ffmpeg = 4.1.3-2.fc30

ffmpeg-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64 : Digital VCR and streaming server
Repo: rpmfusion-free
Matched from:
Provide: ffmpeg = 4.1.3-2.fc30



To convert one file:

ffmpeg -i videofile.mp4 -vn -acodec libvorbis audiofile.ogg


To remove video and caonvert to ogg audio:

ffmpeg -i video.any -vn -acodec libvorbis audio.ogg



To convert many files:

Note: rename *.MP4 to *.mp4

  $ for vid in *.mp4; do ffmpeg -i "$vid" -vn -acodec libvorbis 
"${vid%.mp4}.ogg"; done


  $ for vid in *.webm; do ffmpeg -i "$vid" -vn -acodec libvorbis 
"${vid%.webm}.ogg"; done


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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-10 Thread Go Canes
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:22 AM stan via users
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>
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:17:37 -0700
> ToddAndMargo via users  wrote:
>
> > On 4/8/23 19:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > > On 4/8/23 17:11, Go Canes wrote:
> > >> I'm curious what bugs you are encountering.
> > >
> > > When I get a few 20 minutes, I will list them
> >
> >
> > vlc-3.0.18-2.fc37.x86_64
> [snipped list of irritating behaviors]
> > VLC has started to annoy the snot out of me with
> > all the above bugs.  Time for me to switch away
> > from VLC.
>
> Wow!  NOT a good fit for your use case.  Like walking with a stone
> in your shoe. Life has too many irritations already, great to get rid of
> some of them.

Agree that if vlc isn't fit for OP's purpose, then find another player.

> I would never hit these.  It sounds like you could probably use an
> audio player like audacious instead, since you aren't bothering with
> the video.

If vlc is being launched from the command-line, one can try the
"--novideo" option.  There should be a similar option available via
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-10 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:17:37 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users  wrote:

> On 4/8/23 19:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > On 4/8/23 17:11, Go Canes wrote:  
> >> I'm curious what bugs you are encountering.  
> > 
> > When I get a few 20 minutes, I will list them  
> 
> 
> vlc-3.0.18-2.fc37.x86_64
[snipped list of irritating behaviors]
> VLC has started to annoy the snot out of me with
> all the above bugs.  Time for me to switch away
> from VLC.

Wow!  NOT a good fit for your use case.  Like walking with a stone
in your shoe. Life has too many irritations already, great to get rid of
some of them.

I would never hit these.  It sounds like you could probably use an
audio player like audacious instead, since you aren't bothering with
the video.
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/9/23 19:30, Tim via users wrote:

Tim:

It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal.
You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed.  I
nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only
way to deal with it.



ToddAndMargo:

Try 

do a ps and a kill -9

Then  to get back


When I say it bogs down the PC, it *REALLY* bogs it down.  Far worse
than when an app went mad with the swap space.

If I don't CTRL ALT BACKSPACE fast, that's it, I won't be able to do
anything with the keyboard, and hardly anything with the mouse, I'll
have to hit the hardware reset button.  It rapid-fire tries to reload
an unplayable file, in an infinite loop, and everything suffers.



I have had the same experience too.  I had to use
the magic one fingered reset button
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-09 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal.
>> You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed.  I
>> nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only
>> way to deal with it.
   

ToddAndMargo:
> Try 
> 
> do a ps and a kill -9
> 
> Then  to get back

When I say it bogs down the PC, it *REALLY* bogs it down.  Far worse
than when an app went mad with the swap space.

If I don't CTRL ALT BACKSPACE fast, that's it, I won't be able to do
anything with the keyboard, and hardly anything with the mouse, I'll
have to hit the hardware reset button.  It rapid-fire tries to reload
an unplayable file, in an infinite loop, and everything suffers.

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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/9/23 18:51, Slade Watkins via users wrote:




On Apr 8, 2023, at 6:04 AM, ToddAndMargo via users 
 wrote:

VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
it is time to give up on VLC.  Parole seems to
work okay.

You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?



I use Parole in place of VLC when it doesn’t work for me — and it’s quite good. 
Would recommend it!

Slade


I have been using Parole and SMplayer.  Both
do what I want pretty nicely!

Thank you!

What in the world is VLC thinking???
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-09 Thread Slade Watkins via users


> On Apr 8, 2023, at 6:04 AM, ToddAndMargo via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
> has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
> it is time to give up on VLC.  Parole seems to
> work okay.
> 
> You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?


I use Parole in place of VLC when it doesn’t work for me — and it’s quite good. 
Would recommend it!

Slade
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/9/23 02:37, Tim via users wrote:

Tim:

I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC:  If you have repeat play
on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU
use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit.


Joe Zeff:

kill -9 should do it.


It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal.
You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed.  I
nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only
way to deal with it.
  



Try 

do a ps and a kill -9

Then  to get back
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer

On Sat, Apr 08, 2023 at 08:38:17PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


I installed SMPlayer.  It is a GUI for MPlayer, but
dnf download mvp and mot mplayer, so go figure.
It works though.


smplayer depends on mpv/mplayer. And mpv is based on mplayer.
dnf -C repoquery --deplist smplayer

vlc has one or two features I like. But:

I'm running mpv since ages, after running mplayer before. And even on
Windows I used it ("mpv.exe", IIRC) And never looked back again: mpv's
options to play anything that has video or audio in it are
uncountable. Just have a look at the documentation.

mpv is mostly keyboard-driven - so if someone doesn't like that ...

For me at least this software is a lot easier to handle that any
GUI-based player I know about: e.g. if one wants to play a whole
folder with files in it, all that's needed is:

mpv /path/to/some/folder

to add a window with info about the files it plays, just add
"--force-window" to the previous command. Fullscreen: type "f".

Typing 'i' then gives the specs of the file. Capital "I" makes the
info stay.

And if folks are too lazy to type (I'm nearly always lazy) they can
run mpv with an xbox controller, turned with a nice driver (xboxdrv)
into a remote control.

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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-09 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC:  If you have repeat play
>> on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU
>> use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit.

Joe Zeff:
> kill -9 should do it.

It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal. 
You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed.  I
nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only
way to deal with it.
 
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/8/23 20:00, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/8/23 19:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 4/8/23 15:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 4/8/23 07:41, stan via users wrote:

Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora,
for the issues you have?  Are the devs aware of the problems, but not
fixing them?  Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just 
curious

whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also
has a lot of issues.


This is the closest I have been able to report bugs on VLC.

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=10=162187=536330#p536330


The VLC sources are at https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc . The
README says the BugTracker is at
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues .


Which brings us back to the original issue:
https://imgur.com/c6DXMNks.png


That image is so small, it's unreadable.  But I have no problem going to 
that url if that's what you're trying to show.


This is a bigger image:

https://imgur.com/irse4Qnl.png

I was trying to log in.  But got told "Your account
has been deactivated by your administrator. Please
log back in to reactivate your account"

I posted about it on

   https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=10=162187=536330#p536330

No one was able to help.

Also forum.videolan.org security certificate expired today
and Firefox won't let you in.  Brave will though.

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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/8/23 19:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 4/8/23 17:11, Go Canes wrote:

I'm curious what bugs you are encountering.


When I get a few 20 minutes, I will list them



vlc-3.0.18-2.fc37.x86_64

Well I do have a ton on ogg and mp4's that
range from 3 minutes to 10 minutes.  I
like to play music when I am working on
my computer and I can't stand commercials
and talking.


1) every time it changes files, it pops into the
foreground.  This destroys what I am typing and
VLC starts to responds to my keystrokes creating
even more havoc.   (smplayer and parole do not.)

2) if I have it on "list", when a new file loads up,
it switches to show video.  That is my call, not
their's. This wold ot be such a real problem
if VLC would stay in the background.  (smplayer
and parole do not do this.)

3) when it switch to the foreground, the windows
walks up the page.  I like to put it on the lower
left, but have given up and put in on the upper
left to get it to stop walking up my screen.

I posted this bugs years ago when the bug
reporter sill worked and ignored:

https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/8728
Beware of the security warning if you click on this.

smplayer and parole stay put.


4) occasionally when it opens a new video, it
scales about five times larger than my screen.
All my task bars/panels are covered up.
And no keystroke works to get it out.  "Esc"
is suppose to work, but only work about 1/5
the of the time.  I am forced to 
ps and kill to get my screen back. (smplayer and
parole do not.)


5) when operated on randomize and full screen, it
will play for a while (about an hour) then park
on the first file at the top and repeat it over
and over. (smplayer and parole do not.)


VLC has started to annoy the snot out of me with
all the above bugs.  Time for me to switch away
from VLC.

-T




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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/8/23 03:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
it is time to give up on VLC.  Parole seems to
work okay.

You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?

Many thanks,
-T


I installed SMPlayer.  It is a GUI for MPlayer, but
dnf download mvp and mot mplayer, so go figure.
It works though.

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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/8/23 19:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 4/8/23 15:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 4/8/23 07:41, stan via users wrote:

Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora,
for the issues you have?  Are the devs aware of the problems, but not
fixing them?  Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just curious
whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also
has a lot of issues.


This is the closest I have been able to report bugs on VLC.

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=10=162187=536330#p536330


The VLC sources are at https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc . The
README says the BugTracker is at
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues .


Which brings us back to the original issue:
https://imgur.com/c6DXMNks.png


That image is so small, it's unreadable.  But I have no problem going to 
that url if that's what you're trying to show.

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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/8/23 17:11, Go Canes wrote:

I'm curious what bugs you are encountering.


When I get a few 20 minutes, I will list them
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/8/23 15:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 4/8/23 07:41, stan via users wrote:

Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora,
for the issues you have?  Are the devs aware of the problems, but not
fixing them?  Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just curious
whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also
has a lot of issues.


This is the closest I have been able to report bugs on VLC.

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=10=162187=536330#p536330


The VLC sources are at https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc . The
README says the BugTracker is at
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues .


Which brings us back to the original issue:
https://imgur.com/c6DXMNks.png

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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Go Canes
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users
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> The bugs [in vlc] drive me nuts.

I'm curious what bugs you are encountering.  I use vlc all the time
and the only significant bug I run into is the one where it skips the
first few seconds of the first track on startup.  I have encountered
issues using vlc that I believe are in the libraries it uses as they
tend to only appear with some media types and not others - typically
these are things like memory leaking while a video is paused for a
long time, or a video that - again after a long pause (hours) will
resume the audio but not the video unless I tell it to skip backwards
a few seconds.  I have also encountered issues with controlling vlc
using the DBUS MPRIS interface, but that might  be issues in my code
rather than vlc for all I know.
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:
>
> On 4/8/23 07:41, stan via users wrote:
> > Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora,
> > for the issues you have?  Are the devs aware of the problems, but not
> > fixing them?  Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just curious
> > whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also
> > has a lot of issues.
>
> This is the closest I have been able to report bugs on VLC.
>
> https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=10=162187=536330#p536330

The VLC sources are at https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc . The
README says the BugTracker is at
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues .

Jeff
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/8/23 07:41, stan via users wrote:

Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora,
for the issues you have?  Are the devs aware of the problems, but not
fixing them?  Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just curious
whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also
has a lot of issues.


This is the closest I have been able to report bugs on VLC.

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=10=162187=536330#p536330

I can't ever find a place to sign up for a new account.


Whenever I've used vlc, it has done what I asked of it, though that is
only occasionally.


The bugs drive me nuts.
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/08/2023 09:16 AM, Tim via users wrote:

I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC:  If you have repeat play
on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU
use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit.


kill -9 should do it.
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2023-04-08 at 03:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
> has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
> it is time to give up on VLC.

I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC:  If you have repeat play
on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU
use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit.

I nearly always use VLC for playing things, but I often use mpv for
those double-click on unknown video files to figure out which is which.
As a simple one-at-a-time player, it's reasonably good, but I
absolutely hate its on-screen progress bar when you whiz through a
file.  I can't find any way to disable it.  It's big, and usually in
the way.

Why do programmers put on screen displays in such stupid places?
 
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 03:04:38 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users  wrote:

> VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
> has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking

Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora,
for the issues you have?  Are the devs aware of the problems, but not
fixing them?  Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just curious
whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also
has a lot of issues.

Whenever I've used vlc, it has done what I asked of it, though that is
only occasionally.

> You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?

I primarily use mplayer.  Under the covers it uses ffmpeg, which seems
to have a lot of development, if the git repository is any indication.
So, if you want cutting edge, you could use ffplay from ffmpeg.
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Luna Jernberg
mpv

On 4/8/23, Andras Simon  wrote:
> 2023-04-08 12:04 UTC+02:00, ToddAndMargo via users
> :
>> Hi All,
>>
>> VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
>> has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
>> it is time to give up on VLC.  Parole seems to
>> work okay.
>>
>> You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?
>
> mplayer
>
> Andras
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Re: Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread Andras Simon
2023-04-08 12:04 UTC+02:00, ToddAndMargo via users
:
> Hi All,
>
> VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
> has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
> it is time to give up on VLC.  Parole seems to
> work okay.
>
> You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?

mplayer

Andras
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Alternative to VLC

2023-04-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player
has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking
it is time to give up on VLC.  Parole seems to
work okay.

You guys have a favorite sub for VLC?

Many thanks,
-T
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Re: unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC".

2023-01-18 Thread home user

On 1/18/23 11:59 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:51:36 -0700
home user wrote:


The string "Videos" was not found anywhere in what the "mimes" website 
mentioned.


Videos is just the name the .desktop file for the application says to call it
so you won't know the actual name :-).

Poking around in my /usr/share/applications .desktop files seems to
indicate the actual application is "totem".


I'm trying it.
You're right.  grepping (case insensitive) /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache for 
"totem" gets a few dozen hits.
No hits in the gnome-open file.

Oh well.  As I mentioned in my previous post, Samuel's suggestion solved the 
problem.

Thank-you, Tom.


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Re: unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC". [SOLVED]

2023-01-18 Thread home user

On 1/18/23 11:43 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 1/18/23 08:05, home user wrote:

not a professional sys. admin.
f36; Linux 6.0.18; gnome 42.2
last patched ("dnf upgrade") Thursday, Jan. 12

Good morning,

When I put a commercial video DVD into my tower's disc player, gnome launches "Videos".  But in the 
gnome "Settings" tool, it's set to launch "VLC media player" for videos.  VLC is what I 
want.  How do I get my workstation to do what I want when I put a video DVD into my tower's disc player?


It's not a "video" as such.  Go to settings, removable media.


That fixed it.
Thank-you, Samuel.
Bill.
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Re: unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC".

2023-01-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:51:36 -0700
home user wrote:

> The string "Videos" was not found anywhere in what the "mimes" website 
> mentioned.

Videos is just the name the .desktop file for the application says to call it
so you won't know the actual name :-).

Poking around in my /usr/share/applications .desktop files seems to
indicate the actual application is "totem".
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Re: unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC".

2023-01-18 Thread home user

On 1/18/23 9:23 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:05:38 -0700
home user wrote:


Thank-you in advance.


Definitely don't thank me, but this page I wrote up long ago might
be a place to start increasing your confusion enough to be sure you'll
never understand how to get it to do what you want :-).

https://tomhorsley.com/game/mimes.html



bash.25[~]: ls -l /usr/bin/xdg-open
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 25815 Jan 21  2022 /usr/bin/xdg-open
bash.26[~]: grep -i Videos /usr/bin/xdg-open
bash.27[~]: grep -i VLC /usr/bin/xdg-open
bash.28[~]: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
GNOME
bash.29[~]: ls -l ~/.xsession
ls: cannot access '/home/weilian.eng/.xsession': No such file or directory
bash.30[~]: whereis gvfs-open
gvfs-open:
bash.31[~]: whereis gnome-open
gnome-open: /usr/bin/gnome-open
bash.32[~]: grep -i Videos /usr/bin/gnome-open
bash.33[~]: grep -i VLC /usr/bin/gnome-open
bash.34[~]: ls -l /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 46417 Jan 12 11:31 
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
bash.35[~]: grep -i Videos /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
bash.36[~]: ls -l /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
ls: cannot access '/usr/share/applications/defaults.list': No such file or 
directory
bash.37[~]: ls -l ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
ls: cannot access '/home/weilian.eng/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list': 
No such file or directory
bash.38[~]:

The file /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache has too many occurrences of 
"VLC" to list.

summary
The string "Videos" was not found anywhere in what the "mimes" website 
mentioned.
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Re: unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC".

2023-01-18 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/18/23 08:05, home user wrote:

not a professional sys. admin.
f36; Linux 6.0.18; gnome 42.2
last patched ("dnf upgrade") Thursday, Jan. 12

Good morning,

When I put a commercial video DVD into my tower's disc player, gnome 
launches "Videos".  But in the gnome "Settings" tool, it's set to launch 
"VLC media player" for videos.  VLC is what I want.  How do I get my 
workstation to do what I want when I put a video DVD into my tower's 
disc player?


It's not a "video" as such.  Go to settings, removable media.
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Re: unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC".

2023-01-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:05:38 -0700
home user wrote:

> Thank-you in advance.

Definitely don't thank me, but this page I wrote up long ago might
be a place to start increasing your confusion enough to be sure you'll
never understand how to get it to do what you want :-).

https://tomhorsley.com/game/mimes.html
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unsettling settings: "Videos" launches instead of "VLC".

2023-01-18 Thread home user

not a professional sys. admin.
f36; Linux 6.0.18; gnome 42.2
last patched ("dnf upgrade") Thursday, Jan. 12

Good morning,

When I put a commercial video DVD into my tower's disc player, gnome launches "Videos".  But in the 
gnome "Settings" tool, it's set to launch "VLC media player" for videos.  VLC is what I 
want.  How do I get my workstation to do what I want when I put a video DVD into my tower's disc player?

Thank-you in advance.
Bill.
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Morris

On 5/12/22 04:02, Bill Cunningham wrote:


On 12/4/2022 8:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 18:40 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

On 12/3/2022 5:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 17:38 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

But I try to save
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a
much
smaller
mpeg.

I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge
(from
the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus
srt
sources).

poc

I tried this and the response was single field picture found fix
audio
of mpeg before multiplexing, something likethat. I have no idea
what
is
means. This was an attempt to convert an ISO. Does mkvmerg work
on
VIDEO_TS VOBs that are not encrypted? This might be the right
tool
providing I can see what it wants fixed.

mkvmerge creates containers. It doesn't do any video
transformations if
that's what you need. You may want ffmpeg, transcode or handbrake,
but
again, I'm not an expert. I did use all of those tools for a time
many
years ago but without a lot of understanding of what I was doing.

poc

OK I see. I am running into the same problems I was running into
before.
I can't get handbrake to work at all on windows. IDK if there's a
linux
version or not. ffmpeg shows more errors the more I tweak it.

Not sure why you're mentioning Windows, but Handbrake is available on
Linux (in the RPMfusion repo).

poc


Only because I only tried handbrake on windows before, not linux. I 
have it now (handbrake) on my live workstation f37. It seems to work 
fine. I had all kinds of problems with ffmpeg before. ffmpeg from cli 
caused all kind of problems before I probably didn't have something 
installed it needed. Anyway, handbrake works fine :) I might post some 
ffmpeg error codes later, but, all seems to work thanks to all.
Handbrake works fine in Windows as well as Linux. If you a looking for a 
conversion tool under windows that does a range of format conversions, 
have a look at format factory. It can be a bit slow on some conversions, 
but it does quite a good job with what it does.


regards,
Steve



B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-04 Thread Bill Cunningham


On 12/4/2022 5:06 AM, Barry wrote:




On 4 Dec 2022, at 03:07, Bill C  wrote:


Not for me for some reason. IDK about codecs or what but there's errors.


There is a user guide to ffmpeg that you might find interesting.
https://img.ly/blog/ultimate-guide-to-ffmpeg/

Barry


Thanks much I will look into it.

B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-04 Thread Bill Cunningham


On 12/4/2022 8:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 18:40 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

On 12/3/2022 5:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 17:38 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

But I try to save
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a
much
smaller
mpeg.

I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge
(from
the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus
srt
sources).

poc

I tried this and the response was single field picture found fix
audio
of mpeg before multiplexing, something likethat. I have no idea
what
is
means. This was an attempt to convert an ISO. Does mkvmerg work
on
VIDEO_TS VOBs that are not encrypted? This might be the right
tool
providing I can see what it wants fixed.

mkvmerge creates containers. It doesn't do any video
transformations if
that's what you need. You may want ffmpeg, transcode or handbrake,
but
again, I'm not an expert. I did use all of those tools for a time
many
years ago but without a lot of understanding of what I was doing.

poc

OK I see. I am running into the same problems I was running into
before.
I can't get handbrake to work at all on windows. IDK if there's a
linux
version or not. ffmpeg shows more errors the more I tweak it.

Not sure why you're mentioning Windows, but Handbrake is available on
Linux (in the RPMfusion repo).

poc


Only because I only tried handbrake on windows before, not linux. I have 
it now (handbrake) on my live workstation f37. It seems to work fine. I 
had all kinds of problems with ffmpeg before. ffmpeg from cli caused all 
kind of problems before I probably didn't have something installed it 
needed. Anyway, handbrake works fine :) I might post some ffmpeg error 
codes later, but, all seems to work thanks to all.


B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 18:40 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> 
> On 12/3/2022 5:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 17:38 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> > > On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> > > > > But I try to save
> > > > > movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a
> > > > > much
> > > > > smaller
> > > > > mpeg.
> > > > I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge
> > > > (from
> > > > the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus
> > > > srt
> > > > sources).
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > I tried this and the response was single field picture found fix
> > > audio
> > > of mpeg before multiplexing, something likethat. I have no idea
> > > what
> > > is
> > > means. This was an attempt to convert an ISO. Does mkvmerg work
> > > on
> > > VIDEO_TS VOBs that are not encrypted? This might be the right
> > > tool
> > > providing I can see what it wants fixed.
> > mkvmerge creates containers. It doesn't do any video
> > transformations if
> > that's what you need. You may want ffmpeg, transcode or handbrake,
> > but
> > again, I'm not an expert. I did use all of those tools for a time
> > many
> > years ago but without a lot of understanding of what I was doing.
> > 
> > poc
> 
> OK I see. I am running into the same problems I was running into
> before. 
> I can't get handbrake to work at all on windows. IDK if there's a
> linux 
> version or not. ffmpeg shows more errors the more I tweak it.

Not sure why you're mentioning Windows, but Handbrake is available on
Linux (in the RPMfusion repo).

poc
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-04 Thread Barry
On 4 Dec 2022, at 03:07, Bill C  wrote:Not for me for some reason. IDK about codecs or what but there's errors.There is a user guide to ffmpeg that you might find interesting.https://img.ly/blog/ultimate-guide-to-ffmpeg/BarryOn Sat, Dec 3, 2022, 8:20 PM Jack Craig <jack.craig.ap...@gmail.com> wrote:ffmpeg works fine for me, ...On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 1:50 PM Bill Cunningham <bill.cu1...@gmail.com> wrote:idk if anyone is having this problem or not, but creating a mp4 or mpg 
using vlc seems to be impossible. I have been trying with windows and 
IDK if that makes a difference but I also have the f37 live workstation 
environment. I can decrypt a dvd, copy and watch a dvd, and even create 
an iso using genisoimage. I cannot though create an mp4 or mpg.

 My latest attempt seemed to copy a title video_ts copy and convert 
that but the "link in the chain" to other VOBs and such did not 
continue. This is in regards to vlc which runs on windows and linux, but 
I have tried several codecs together. aac, aac3, mp4 and mpg, and mkv. 
There is something always off.

 IDK if this is helpful in regards to a problem. But I try to save 
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much smaller 
mpeg. vlc seems to be unbelievably complex if it can create/convert an 
ISO or VOBs to mpg4 or another container format.

 Has anyone else struggled with this problem and found a solution? 
Can these things be done using the live image workstation?

B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Bill C
Not for me for some reason. IDK about codecs or what but there's errors.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022, 8:20 PM Jack Craig  wrote:

> ffmpeg works fine for me, ...
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 1:50 PM Bill Cunningham 
> wrote:
>
>> idk if anyone is having this problem or not, but creating a mp4 or mpg
>> using vlc seems to be impossible. I have been trying with windows and
>> IDK if that makes a difference but I also have the f37 live workstation
>> environment. I can decrypt a dvd, copy and watch a dvd, and even create
>> an iso using genisoimage. I cannot though create an mp4 or mpg.
>>
>>  My latest attempt seemed to copy a title video_ts copy and convert
>> that but the "link in the chain" to other VOBs and such did not
>> continue. This is in regards to vlc which runs on windows and linux, but
>> I have tried several codecs together. aac, aac3, mp4 and mpg, and mkv.
>> There is something always off.
>>
>>  IDK if this is helpful in regards to a problem. But I try to save
>> movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much smaller
>> mpeg. vlc seems to be unbelievably complex if it can create/convert an
>> ISO or VOBs to mpg4 or another container format.
>>
>>  Has anyone else struggled with this problem and found a solution?
>> Can these things be done using the live image workstation?
>>
>> B
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Jack Craig
ffmpeg works fine for me, ...

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 1:50 PM Bill Cunningham 
wrote:

> idk if anyone is having this problem or not, but creating a mp4 or mpg
> using vlc seems to be impossible. I have been trying with windows and
> IDK if that makes a difference but I also have the f37 live workstation
> environment. I can decrypt a dvd, copy and watch a dvd, and even create
> an iso using genisoimage. I cannot though create an mp4 or mpg.
>
>  My latest attempt seemed to copy a title video_ts copy and convert
> that but the "link in the chain" to other VOBs and such did not
> continue. This is in regards to vlc which runs on windows and linux, but
> I have tried several codecs together. aac, aac3, mp4 and mpg, and mkv.
> There is something always off.
>
>  IDK if this is helpful in regards to a problem. But I try to save
> movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much smaller
> mpeg. vlc seems to be unbelievably complex if it can create/convert an
> ISO or VOBs to mpg4 or another container format.
>
>  Has anyone else struggled with this problem and found a solution?
> Can these things be done using the live image workstation?
>
> B
>
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 18:40:04 -0500
Bill Cunningham wrote:

> I can't get handbrake to work at all on windows. IDK if there's a linux 
> version or not.

I'm pretty sure there is a fedora version in the rpmfusion repos at least.
Yep, rpmfusion:

 rpm -q -i HandBrake-gui
Name: HandBrake-gui
Version : 1.5.1
Release : 4.fc37
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: Sun 20 Nov 2022 04:31:22 PM EST
Group   : Unspecified
Size: 12521972
License : GPLv2+
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Sun 07 Aug 2022 01:22:36 PM EDT, Key ID 
e06f8ecdd651ff2e
Source RPM  : HandBrake-1.5.1-4.fc37.src.rpm
Build Date  : Sat 06 Aug 2022 01:21:47 PM EDT
Build Host  : buildvm-07.virt.rpmfusion.net
Packager: RPM Fusion
Vendor  : RPM Fusion
URL : http://handbrake.fr/
Summary : An open-source multiplatform video transcoder (GUI)
Description :
HandBrake is a general-purpose, free, open-source, cross-platform, multithreaded
video transcoder software application. It can process most common multimedia
files and any DVD or Bluray sources that do not contain any kind of copy
protection.

This package contains the main program with a graphical interface.

For encrypted stuff I use makemkv (but I have to build it from the
instructions on the makemkv forum).
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Bill Cunningham


On 12/3/2022 5:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 17:38 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

But I try to save
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much
smaller
mpeg.

I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge
(from
the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus srt
sources).

poc

I tried this and the response was single field picture found fix
audio
of mpeg before multiplexing, something likethat. I have no idea what
is
means. This was an attempt to convert an ISO. Does mkvmerg work on
VIDEO_TS VOBs that are not encrypted? This might be the right tool
providing I can see what it wants fixed.

mkvmerge creates containers. It doesn't do any video transformations if
that's what you need. You may want ffmpeg, transcode or handbrake, but
again, I'm not an expert. I did use all of those tools for a time many
years ago but without a lot of understanding of what I was doing.

poc


OK I see. I am running into the same problems I was running into before. 
I can't get handbrake to work at all on windows. IDK if there's a linux 
version or not. ffmpeg shows more errors the more I tweak it.


B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 17:38 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> 
> On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> > > But I try to save
> > > movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much
> > > smaller
> > > mpeg.
> > I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge
> > (from
> > the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus srt
> > sources).
> > 
> > poc
> 
> I tried this and the response was single field picture found fix
> audio 
> of mpeg before multiplexing, something likethat. I have no idea what
> is 
> means. This was an attempt to convert an ISO. Does mkvmerg work on 
> VIDEO_TS VOBs that are not encrypted? This might be the right tool 
> providing I can see what it wants fixed.

mkvmerge creates containers. It doesn't do any video transformations if
that's what you need. You may want ffmpeg, transcode or handbrake, but
again, I'm not an expert. I did use all of those tools for a time many
years ago but without a lot of understanding of what I was doing.

poc
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Bill Cunningham


On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

But I try to save
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much
smaller
mpeg.

I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge (from
the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus srt
sources).

poc


I tried this and the response was single field picture found fix audio 
of mpeg before multiplexing, something likethat. I have no idea what is 
means. This was an attempt to convert an ISO. Does mkvmerg work on 
VIDEO_TS VOBs that are not encrypted? This might be the right tool 
providing I can see what it wants fixed.


B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 17:24 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> 
> On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> > > But I try to save
> > > movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much
> > > smaller
> > > mpeg.
> > I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge
> > (from
> > the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus srt
> > sources).
> > 
> > poc
> 
> Is a mp4 and mkv the same file? I am used to the mp4s but this mkv
> seems to be getting around now.

They are both container formats but are not the same. MKV (Matroska)
containers can be nested and contain multiple audio and/or subtitle
tracks, and I think are in some ways more flexible than MP4s, e.g. I've
often created MKV files that contain MP4s (and VLC can play them), but
maybe someone who knows what they're talking about should chip in here.

poc
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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Bill Cunningham


On 12/3/2022 5:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:

But I try to save
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much
smaller
mpeg.

I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge (from
the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus srt
sources).

poc


Is a mp4 and mkv the same file? I am used to the mp4s but this mkv seems 
to be getting around now.


B

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Re: vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 16:49 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> But I try to save 
> movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much
> smaller 
> mpeg.

I've no idea if this fits your needs, but I always use mkvmerge (from
the mkvtoolnix package) to create MKV files from (e.g. mp4 plus srt
sources).

poc
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vlc and mp4 or mkv

2022-12-03 Thread Bill Cunningham
idk if anyone is having this problem or not, but creating a mp4 or mpg 
using vlc seems to be impossible. I have been trying with windows and 
IDK if that makes a difference but I also have the f37 live workstation 
environment. I can decrypt a dvd, copy and watch a dvd, and even create 
an iso using genisoimage. I cannot though create an mp4 or mpg.


    My latest attempt seemed to copy a title video_ts copy and convert 
that but the "link in the chain" to other VOBs and such did not 
continue. This is in regards to vlc which runs on windows and linux, but 
I have tried several codecs together. aac, aac3, mp4 and mpg, and mkv. 
There is something always off.


    IDK if this is helpful in regards to a problem. But I try to save 
movies/videos as an iso or if there is no special feature a much smaller 
mpeg. vlc seems to be unbelievably complex if it can create/convert an 
ISO or VOBs to mpg4 or another container format.


    Has anyone else struggled with this problem and found a solution? 
Can these things be done using the live image workstation?


B

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-03 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/3/22 04:12, Javier Perez wrote:

[pepebuho@pepewin ~]$ vlc -l | grep 264
VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
   h264                   H.264 video packetizer
   h26x                   H264 video demuxer
   x264                   H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10/AVC encoder (x264)
   x26410b                H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10/AVC encoder (x264 10-bit)
   qsv                    Intel QuickSync Video encoder for 
MPEG4-Part10/MPEG2 (aka H.264/H.262)


I have no idea why yours isn't working.  Everything looks normal.
Try creating a new user and see if it works there.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-03 Thread Javier Perez
[pepebuho@pepewin ~]$ vlc -l | grep 264
VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
  h264   H.264 video packetizer
  h26x   H264 video demuxer
  x264   H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10/AVC encoder (x264)
  x26410bH.264/MPEG-4 Part 10/AVC encoder (x264 10-bit)
  qsvIntel QuickSync Video encoder for
MPEG4-Part10/MPEG2 (aka H.264/H.262)

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:08 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 8/1/22 18:42, Javier Perez wrote:
> > Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'test_file.mkv':
> >Metadata:
> >  title   : test_file
> >  COMMENT :
> >  ENCODER : Lavf58.20.100
> >Duration: 01:04:22.25, start: 0.00, bitrate: 622 kb/s
> >Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(progressive), 720x360
>
> That looks like a normal file.
> What does "vlc -l | grep 264" show?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/1/22 18:42, Javier Perez wrote:

Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'test_file.mkv':
   Metadata:
     title           : test_file
     COMMENT         :
     ENCODER         : Lavf58.20.100
   Duration: 01:04:22.25, start: 0.00, bitrate: 622 kb/s
   Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(progressive), 720x360 


That looks like a normal file.
What does "vlc -l | grep 264" show?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Javier Perez
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Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'test_file.mkv':
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COMMENT :
ENCODER : Lavf58.20.100
  Duration: 01:04:22.25, start: 0.00, bitrate: 622 kb/s
  Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(progressive), 720x360 [SAR
1:1 DAR 2:1], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn (default)
Metadata:
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  ENCODER : Lavc58.35.100 libx264
  DURATION: 01:04:22.23500
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Metadata:
  title   : test_file
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  DURATION: 01:04:22.25100
  Stream #0:2(eng): Subtitle: subrip (default)
Metadata:
  title   : test_file
  DURATION: 01:03:06.99700
  Stream #0:3(eng): Subtitle: subrip
Metadata:
  title   : English
  DURATION: 01:03:06.99700

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:26 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 8/1/22 18:17, Javier Perez wrote:
> > [pepebuho@pepewin Personal]$ vlc
> > VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
> > [55f684c10b70] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface.
> > Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
> > [7fafdf34ceb0] main decoder error: Codec `h264' (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC
> > (part 10)) is not supported.
>
> That's very strange.  Is it a specific file or any .mp4 file?  Can you
> run "ffprobe" on the file?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/1/22 18:17, Javier Perez wrote:

[pepebuho@pepewin Personal]$ vlc
VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
[55f684c10b70] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. 
Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[7fafdf34ceb0] main decoder error: Codec `h264' (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC 
(part 10)) is not supported.


That's very strange.  Is it a specific file or any .mp4 file?  Can you 
run "ffprobe" on the file?

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Javier Perez
[pepebuho@pepewin Personal]$ vlc
VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
[55f684c10b70] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[7fafdf34ceb0] main decoder error: Codec `h264' (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC
(part 10)) is not supported.


On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 12:33 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 7/31/22 09:56, Javier Perez wrote:
> > Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> > What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
>
> How are you running vlc?
> If you run it from a terminal, is there any relevant output?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 7/31/22 09:56, Javier Perez wrote:

Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


How are you running vlc?
If you run it from a terminal, is there any relevant output?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Javier Perez
Hi. How do I do that?

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 5:35 PM Mr Brian Domenick 
wrote:

> Did you try shutting off hardware decoding. i vaguely remember some
> issue I had with h264 and the settings were very finicky recently.
>
> Brian
>
> On 7/31/22 3:29 PM, John Pilkington wrote:
> > On 31/07/2022 17:56, Javier Perez wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> >> What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
> >
> > I'm still with F35 and vlc has no trouble with this codec, the
> > standard for DVB-T2 broadcasting here.
> >
> > rpm -qa | grep -i vlc shows vlc and vlc-core, both at 3.0.17.2-1
> >
> > IIRC vlc doesn't use external codecs.  I don't think ffmpeg is required.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Mr Brian Domenick
Did you try shutting off hardware decoding. i vaguely remember some 
issue I had with h264 and the settings were very finicky recently.


Brian

On 7/31/22 3:29 PM, John Pilkington wrote:

On 31/07/2022 17:56, Javier Perez wrote:


Hi
Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


I'm still with F35 and vlc has no trouble with this codec, the 
standard for DVB-T2 broadcasting here.


rpm -qa | grep -i vlc shows vlc and vlc-core, both at 3.0.17.2-1

IIRC vlc doesn't use external codecs.  I don't think ffmpeg is required.

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread John Pilkington

On 31/07/2022 17:56, Javier Perez wrote:


Hi
Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


I'm still with F35 and vlc has no trouble with this codec, the standard 
for DVB-T2 broadcasting here.


rpm -qa | grep -i vlc shows vlc and vlc-core, both at 3.0.17.2-1

IIRC vlc doesn't use external codecs.  I don't think ffmpeg is required.

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
Installed Packages
ffmpeg.x86_645.0.1-3.fc36
  @rpmfusion-free

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 3:31 PM Grumpey  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:22 PM Javier Perez  wrote:
> >
> > I thought maybe something got mixed up with the upgrade from F35 to F36.
> I did first a "dnf remove vlc" and after, did a "dnf install vlc".
> >
> > I still get the same problem.
>
> You may want to check which ffmpeg is installed.
> ffmpeg.x86_64   5.0.1-3.fc36
>  @rpmfusion-free
> or
> ffmpeg-free.x86_64  5.0.1-11.fc36
>  updates
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 7/31/22 09:56, Javier Perez wrote:

Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


vlc should have dependencies for all the libraries it needs.  But let's 
see what you have.


rpm -q vlc
rpm -qa | grep 264
rpm -qa | grep libav
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Grumpey
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:22 PM Javier Perez  wrote:
>
> I thought maybe something got mixed up with the upgrade from F35 to F36. I 
> did first a "dnf remove vlc" and after, did a "dnf install vlc".
>
> I still get the same problem.

You may want to check which ffmpeg is installed.
ffmpeg.x86_64   5.0.1-3.fc36
 @rpmfusion-free
or
ffmpeg-free.x86_64  5.0.1-11.fc36
 updates

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 7/31/22 10:43, stan via users wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:56:21 -0500
Javier Perez  wrote:


Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


Do you have a sample link on the web of this codec?  The reason I ask
is I would like to see if it plays here.  Do you have the fedora h264
repository installed and active?  I just got an update on it today, so
maybe the means to play it is available with that update.  It is called
fedora-cisco-openh264.repo


Since he has vlc installed, he must have rpmfusion enabled.  I think the 
h264 libraries from there are better than the cisco one.  (Unless it's 
changed, the cisco ones were limited in some way.)  But I appear to have 
all the h264 libraries from the various repos and vlc has no problem 
with h264 videos.


But a sample link would be good if that's possible.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
I thought maybe something got mixed up with the upgrade from F35 to F36. I
did first a "dnf remove vlc" and after, did a "dnf install vlc".

I still get the same problem.




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>
> And why did you think that reinstalling vlc would change anything?  And,
> did you use dnf reinstall, or did you remove the program and do a clean
> install?  There's a big difference, you know.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Joe Zeff

On 7/31/22 12:08, Javier Perez wrote:

I reinstalled vlc and nothing, it gave me the same problem.


And why did you think that reinstalling vlc would change anything?  And, 
did you use dnf reinstall, or did you remove the program and do a clean 
install?  There's a big difference, you know.

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
Hi.
I could play it with mpv. It is working.
This is my list of enabled repositories
# dnf repolist --enabled
repo idrepo name
adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems Incorporated
brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_ created by dnf
config-manager from https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/x86_64/
copr:copr.fedorainfracloud.org:kwizart:fedyCopr repo for fedy owned by
kwizart
fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64
fedora-cisco-openh264  Fedora 36 openh264 (From
Cisco) - x86_64
fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64
google-chrome  google-chrome
rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Free
rpmfusion-free-tainted RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Free tainted
rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Free - Updates
rpmfusion-nonfree  RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Nonfree
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates  RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Nonfree - Updates
updatesFedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates
updates-modularFedora Modular 36 - x86_64 -
Updates

I reinstalled vlc and nothing, it gave me the same problem. It plays the
audio but not the video and it pop ups the message

Codec not supported:

VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 12:44 PM stan via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:56:21 -0500
> Javier Perez  wrote:
>
> > Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> > What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
>
> Do you have a sample link on the web of this codec?  The reason I ask
> is I would like to see if it plays here.  Do you have the fedora h264
> repository installed and active?  I just got an update on it today, so
> maybe the means to play it is available with that update.  It is called
> fedora-cisco-openh264.repo
>
> You could try ffplay, part of the ffmpeg program.  It is actively
> developed, and seems to get the latest codecs very quickly.  I think it
> is the underlying basis for many of the other video players on fedora.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:56:21 -0500
Javier Perez  wrote:

> Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?

Do you have a sample link on the web of this codec?  The reason I ask
is I would like to see if it plays here.  Do you have the fedora h264
repository installed and active?  I just got an update on it today, so
maybe the means to play it is available with that update.  It is called
fedora-cisco-openh264.repo

You could try ffplay, part of the ffmpeg program.  It is actively
developed, and seems to get the latest codecs very quickly.  I think it
is the underlying basis for many of the other video players on fedora.
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VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
Hi
Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 12/8/21 12:02, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 10:29:44AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

How do I report to VLC directly?

https://wiki.videolan.org/Report_bugs

ARGH!  This will be quite a bit to do.  First got to join their forums.  
I did find one that sounds similar:


https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13=158585

Then maybe their Github.  Doesn't seem to help that I already have a 
Github account for my IETF work.


Sigh.

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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 10:29:44AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> How do I report to VLC directly?

https://wiki.videolan.org/Report_bugs

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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 12/8/21 09:29, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 08:16:16AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Where do I report this?  Basically with a lecture that I have had no
problem viewing in the past with VLC on F32 and Xfce, locked up my
system so badly that I had to power cycle.

This is _probably_ a graphics driver issue, in that no application should be
able to do that. Or, maybe something with VLC. But either way, it's probably
not really a _packaging_ problem, and people making packages of this kind of
thing for third-party repos aren't necessarily experts in the code, just
interested in helping make it easily available. So it's probably better to
report to VLC directly.


How do I report to VLC directly?

Also there may well be a graphics driver problem and I really need to 
make a bug report.


I run 4 copies of Thunderbird from a script like:

export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1
thunderbird -profile ~/data/htt/Mail &
export -n MOZ_NO_REMOTE

each with a different mail directory.

ONLY ONE (the one above) sometimes gets a problem opening a message, and 
I have to  to get to it instead of it kicking to the 
foreground. And then it is not fully maximized as all other message 
openings are.  I see in the terminal window where I run the script the 
messages:


IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code!

###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: 
PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message 
was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure)


IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code!

###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: 
PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message 
was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure)



So something is not right

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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 08:16:16AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Where do I report this?  Basically with a lecture that I have had no
> problem viewing in the past with VLC on F32 and Xfce, locked up my
> system so badly that I had to power cycle.

This is _probably_ a graphics driver issue, in that no application should be
able to do that. Or, maybe something with VLC. But either way, it's probably
not really a _packaging_ problem, and people making packages of this kind of
thing for third-party repos aren't necessarily experts in the code, just
interested in helping make it easily available. So it's probably better to
report to VLC directly.


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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Thanks.  Bug filed 6170.

On 12/8/21 08:39, Ben Cotton wrote:

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:17 AM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

I went to bugzilla.redhat.com to report my system locking up, but seems
they do not take bugs for VLC (it comes from rpm-fusion-free).


RPM Fusion maintains their own Bugzilla instance for bug reports:
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/

They also have a CommonBugs page, but your specific issue doesn't
appear to be listed there: https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs





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Re: Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:17 AM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
>
> I went to bugzilla.redhat.com to report my system locking up, but seems
> they do not take bugs for VLC (it comes from rpm-fusion-free).
>
RPM Fusion maintains their own Bugzilla instance for bug reports:
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/

They also have a CommonBugs page, but your specific issue doesn't
appear to be listed there: https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs




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Bug with VLC on F35 with Xfce

2021-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I had a locked system with a specific (set?) of mp4 viewing with VLC.

I went to bugzilla.redhat.com to report my system locking up, but seems 
they do not take bugs for VLC (it comes from rpm-fusion-free).


Where do I report this?  Basically with a lecture that I have had no 
problem viewing in the past with VLC on F32 and Xfce, locked up my 
system so badly that I had to power cycle.


thanks!
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Re: vlc update

2020-07-26 Thread Jerry James
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:30 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> I have a small issue with the last fedora update:

See this thread from a few hours ago:

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vlc update

2020-07-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I have a small issue with the last fedora update:

 Problem 1: cannot install the best update candidate for package 
vlc-core-1:3.0.11-4.fc32.x86_64
  - nothing provides libebml.so.5()(64bit) needed by 
vlc-core-1:3.0.11-7.fc32.x86_64
  - nothing provides libmatroska.so.7()(64bit) needed by 
vlc-core-1:3.0.11-7.fc32.x86_64
 Problem 2: package vlc-1:3.0.11-7.fc32.x86_64 requires vlc-core(x86-64) = 
1:3.0.11-7.fc32, but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install the best update candidate for package 
vlc-1:3.0.11-4.fc32.x86_64
  - nothing provides libebml.so.5()(64bit) needed by 
vlc-core-1:3.0.11-7.fc32.x86_64
  - nothing provides libmatroska.so.7()(64bit) needed by 
vlc-core-1:3.0.11-7.fc32.x86_64

 Package  Arch   Version   Repository  Size

Skipping packages with broken dependencies:
 vlc  x86_64 1:3.0.11-7.fc32   rpmfusion-free-updates 1.5 M
 vlc-core x86_64 1:3.0.11-7.fc32   rpmfusion-free-updates 9.8 M

Transaction Summary

Skip  2 Packages


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Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-21 Thread Robin Lee
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 11:33 +0200, Mayavimmer wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one. 
> > 
> > Also been launching VLC from a terminal lately and sometimes it
> > also
> > doesn't terminate cleanly that way. I close the VLC window, it
> > disappears from system panel, but in the terminal window the prompt
> > is
> > not returned. Ctrl-c returns the prompt and VLC doesn't show up
> > anymore
> > in system monitor.
> 
> I also experienced the same and more recent Vlc weirdness.
> 
> I fixed it by removing the config file with:
> 
> $ mv ~/.config/vlc ~/.config/vlc--00--maybe-broken
> 
> If you don't need the old config, try it.

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't change anything for me. I
guess it just some combination of content and slightly buggy codecs
that sometimes causes VLC not to exit cleanly. And the screen saver
can't tell the difference between that a running vlc that you don't
want to blank the screen on.
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Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-19 Thread Mayavimmer
Robin Lee wrote:

> Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one. 
> 
> Also been launching VLC from a terminal lately and sometimes it also
> doesn't terminate cleanly that way. I close the VLC window, it
> disappears from system panel, but in the terminal window the prompt is
> not returned. Ctrl-c returns the prompt and VLC doesn't show up anymore
> in system monitor.

I also experienced the same and more recent Vlc weirdness.

I fixed it by removing the config file with:

$ mv ~/.config/vlc ~/.config/vlc--00--maybe-broken

If you don't need the old config, try it.
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Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-18 Thread Robin Lee
On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 18:20 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > some
> > video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
> > process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver
> > from
> > blanking the screen. So sometimes when I wake up or come home after
> > being out I notice that the screen has been on all the time. Not so
> > good. I have to go to system monitor and find the vlc process and
> > kill
> > it, then the screen saver can again do its thing.
> > 
> > Can anything be done about it, except always checking manually that
> > vlc
> > has terminated completely?
> 
> For what it's worth I see this exact same issue, on F31 and F32. Not 
> sure exactly when it started but I see it even when I start vlc from
> the 
> command line. I "close" the vlc window but often still have to CTRL-C 
> on 
> the terminal. 

Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one. 

Also been launching VLC from a terminal lately and sometimes it also
doesn't terminate cleanly that way. I close the VLC window, it
disappears from system panel, but in the terminal window the prompt is
not returned. Ctrl-c returns the prompt and VLC doesn't show up anymore
in system monitor.
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Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-18 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 18:20 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
> For what it's worth I see this exact same issue, on F31 and F32. Not 
> sure exactly when it started but I see it even when I start vlc from
> the command line. I "close" the vlc window but often still have to
> CTRL-C on the terminal.

It could be a codec.  Some badly encoded files being played, or a badly
written codec that handles it.  I find some files would jam up VLC
hard, and it couldn't be quit without a reboot.
 
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Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/18/20 6:20 AM, Ian Chapman wrote:

Hi,



The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched some
video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver from
blanking the screen. So sometimes when I wake up or come home after
being out I notice that the screen has been on all the time. Not so
good. I have to go to system monitor and find the vlc process and kill
it, then the screen saver can again do its thing.

Can anything be done about it, except always checking manually that vlc
has terminated completely?


For what it's worth I see this exact same issue, on F31 and F32. Not 
sure exactly when it started but I see it even when I start vlc from 
the command line. I "close" the vlc window but often still have to 
CTRL-C on the terminal. 


When this happens, check the system panel.  Do you see a VLC icon 
there?  Right click and exit.  Does this clear up your terminal window?


VLC, for me, has this background task that stays running unless I exit it.

In addition when I pause videos, it still sits chewing 100% CPU time, 
or rather 200% in this case on my little 2 core netbook.



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Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-18 Thread Ian Chapman

Hi,



The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched some
video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver from
blanking the screen. So sometimes when I wake up or come home after
being out I notice that the screen has been on all the time. Not so
good. I have to go to system monitor and find the vlc process and kill
it, then the screen saver can again do its thing.

Can anything be done about it, except always checking manually that vlc
has terminated completely?


For what it's worth I see this exact same issue, on F31 and F32. Not 
sure exactly when it started but I see it even when I start vlc from the 
command line. I "close" the vlc window but often still have to CTRL-C on 
the terminal. In addition when I pause videos, it still sits chewing 
100% CPU time, or rather 200% in this case on my little 2 core netbook.


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Regards,
Ian Chapman
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