Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/25/24 05:17, Roger Heflin wrote:

x11vnc works at least with x11 (not sure about wayland) and can be run
on a running session to create a vnc connection to that live session.

I used it to remotely view/control my active laptop screen.


For some reason, he wants a second separate session, not controlling the 
existing session.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/25/24 06:35, Jonathan Billings wrote:
What this means is there’s no TCP port listening for Xvnc, just a UNIX 
socket file. So two people or a local and remote session can’t have 
sessions interfering with each other. I played with using systemd socket 
activation too but that’s too complicated for this post.


Then, for remote connections, I would forward the UNIX socket with SSH. 
If you are using a VNC client that doesn’t support UNIX sockets, you can 
tell OpenSSH to forward a remote socket to a local TCP socket, but you 
can also forward a remote to local socket to use with tigervnc’s client 
in Fedora. The great thing about it is that there’s never a listening 
tcp port on either side of the connection except ssh.


When it’s set up, it’s just like having a remote VNC session with the 
upstream systemd units, but it doesn’t need a listening TCP port 
assigned to each user.


It's a valid option, but I don't see how it's relevant to this issue. 
There's no port conflict.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Feb 25, 2024, at 02:23, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> 
> On 2/24/24 23:17, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:
>>> It does have something to do with running from systemd, but I have no
>>> idea what it is.
>> Not sure at all of that. It seems to be instead an compatibility between
>> vncsession and startxfce4.
> 
> It's directly related to running from systemd while the user is already 
> logged in.  If the user isn't logged in, it works fine from systemd.  If the 
> user is logged in and you start it from the command line, it also works.  So 
> it's only the combination.  I did run a strace, but it's not clear what's 
> going on.  It almost seems like it's something to do with the ssh agent, but 
> I wasn't motivated enough to really follow it.

I wish I had access to my internal git account I have at work, but I discovered 
that both OpenSSH and Xvnc support using UNIX sockets instead of listening on a 
port. 

What this means is that you can have your systemd service (I ran as a user, 
enabling linger) uses a socket file (I used one in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR because it’s 
private) when launching Xvnc by specifying `−rfbunixpath path` in the 
parameters to Xvnc. I think this is only available in somewhat recent TigerVNC, 
so it doesn’t work in Centos 7.

What this means is there’s no TCP port listening for Xvnc, just a UNIX socket 
file. So two people or a local and remote session can’t have sessions 
interfering with each other. I played with using systemd socket activation too 
but that’s too complicated for this post. 

Then, for remote connections, I would forward the UNIX socket with SSH. If you 
are using a VNC client that doesn’t support UNIX sockets, you can tell OpenSSH 
to forward a remote socket to a local TCP socket, but you can also forward a 
remote to local socket to use with tigervnc’s client in Fedora. The great thing 
about it is that there’s never a listening tcp port on either side of the 
connection except ssh. 

When it’s set up, it’s just like having a remote VNC session with the upstream 
systemd units, but it doesn’t need a listening TCP port assigned to each user.

Honestly, I kinda wish the TigerVNC project would just adopt this for their 
provided units. Maybe they can’t because Windows can’t use UNIX sockets? I 
wonder if the Windows 10 OpenSSH can forward sockets to a local tcp socket? 
(I’m not a windows user)

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread Roger Heflin
x11vnc works at least with x11 (not sure about wayland) and can be run
on a running session to create a vnc connection to that live session.

I used it to remotely view/control my active laptop screen.

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 9:11 AM Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
>
> I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based
> configuration, but:
>
> I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to
> set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on Fedora
> and was informed that launching vncserver was "deprecated", and pointed
> towards the documentation for Fefora's systemd-based configuration.
>
> Reading through that, the following limitation is a showstopper for me:
>
> # # Limitations
> # You will not be able to start a Tigervnc server for a user who is already
> # logged into a graphical session.
>
> That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log
> into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.
>
> This is not a limitation on Ubuntu. It's too bad that Fedora cannot do the
> same.
>
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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:11 AM Sam Varshavchik 
wrote:

> I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based
> configuration, but:
>
> I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to
> set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on
> Fedora
> and was informed that launching vncserver was "deprecated", and pointed
> towards the documentation for Fefora's systemd-based configuration.
>
> Reading through that, the following limitation is a showstopper for me:
>
> # # Limitations
> # You will not be able to start a Tigervnc server for a user who is already
> # logged into a graphical session.
>
> That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically
> log
> into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.
>
> This is not a limitation on Ubuntu. It's too bad that Fedora cannot do
> the
> same.
>

With systemd, configured VNC Servers are started at boot, so unless you
are adding new users without configuring VNC, you shouldn't need to start
a server from a GUI session.   I find, however, that I rarely need  VNC as
web-based remote systems (e.g., Rstudio server, Jupyter) meet my needs.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 09:11:34 +0100 francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

>> So it's only the combination.  I did run a strace, but it's not 
>> clear what's going on.  It almost seems like it's something to do with 
>> the ssh agent, but I wasn't motivated enough to really follow it.

I tried to no avail 1) to call xfce4-session through ssh-agent 2) to unset
SSH_AUTH_SOCK SSH_AGENT_PID before calling xfce4-session 3) to chown
root /tmp/.ICE-unix/

I give up trying to allow an xfce session at the console and under VNC.

This is not possible also with MATE: the VNC session, started after the one at
the console, is blocked on:

  Could not acquire name on session bus
  Close

and then nothing is usable.

As samuel said earlier, having two sessions may:

  cause great confusion and weird happenings.

I have a workaround. For years, I use only a VNC session.

When at the console I only connect to it with a vncviewer "session" defined
as:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=vncviewer1 Session
Exec=vncviewer :1
Icon=
Type=Application
DesktopNames=VNCVIEWER1

otherwise, I connect to it with "vncviewer -via".

I don't need to have GPU acceleration. This may be available with vglrun, when
at the console.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-25 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:23:28 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote:

> On 2/24/24 23:17, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:
>>> It does have something to do with running from systemd, but I have no
>>> idea what it is.

>> Not sure at all of that. It seems to be instead an compatibility between
>> vncsession and startxfce4.

> It's directly related to running from systemd while the user is already 
> logged in.  If the user isn't logged in, it works fine from systemd.

Right: I did my test being not logged in (at the console). It fails also with
xfcetest, thus the startxfce4 script is not the culprit.

xfce failed for me yesterday with a different message in the log:

  Starting desktop session xfce
  Unrecognized option: -xsession
  use: X [:] [option]

but today it works (while being not logged in).

> If the user is logged in and you start it from the command line, it also
> works.

Right, from a terminal of the main session with:

  sudo /usr/libexec/vncsession-start :1

> So it's only the combination.  I did run a strace, but it's not 
> clear what's going on.  It almost seems like it's something to do with 
> the ssh agent, but I wasn't motivated enough to really follow it.

Being logged in with fluxbox and starting a fluxbox VNC session works also.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/24/24 23:17, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

It does have something to do with running from systemd, but I have no
idea what it is.


Not sure at all of that. It seems to be instead an compatibility between
vncsession and startxfce4.


It's directly related to running from systemd while the user is already 
logged in.  If the user isn't logged in, it works fine from systemd.  If 
the user is logged in and you start it from the command line, it also 
works.  So it's only the combination.  I did run a strace, but it's not 
clear what's going on.  It almost seems like it's something to do with 
the ssh agent, but I wasn't motivated enough to really follow it.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:11:20 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote:

> On 2/24/24 08:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>> ... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was 
>> dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:

>> /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
>> MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
>> glx: failed to create drisw screen
>> failed to load driver: zink
>> xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already 
>> running
>> xinit: connection to X server lost

>> So this is not a Gnome limitation, but a systemd limitation.

> You say the reason is there, but what reason are you seeing?  The only 
> difference from when it does work is that last line from xinit.

> (I was mistaken about the "already running" message.  That should happen 
> because Xvnc is started and xfce should not be starting an X server.)

Right, because /usr/sbin/vncsession (a binary) called from the
/usr/libexec/vncsession-start script by the vncserver@.service does a:

  xinit /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession COMMAND -- /usr/bin/Xvnc :1 OPTIONS

where COMMAND is the command specified in the Exec= option of the
/usr/share/xsessions/SESSION.desktop file.

For xfce, this is startxfce4 that print the "X server already running..."
message if DISPLAY is set and do not call then xinit itself. It would be worth
to trace this script to know precisely what happens. No courage to do that at
the moment :-(

I made the following test that works for me: replace startxfce4 by
xfce4-session:

  - make a new session /usr/share/xsessions/xfcetest.desktop with:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=XfceTest Session
Exec=xfce4-session
Icon=
Type=Application
DesktopNames=XFCETEST

  - declare session=xfcetest in ~/.vnc/config

Can you try it ?

I do that on a minimal Fedora machine having only xfce4 as sessions.

The initial test I made with session=xfce4 worked may be because, since this
xfce4 session doesn't exist, vncsession switched to the only existing session
(xfce) and in a different way that worked.

In addition, I installed fluxbox and it works with vncsession.

> It does have something to do with running from systemd, but I have no 
> idea what it is.

Not sure at all of that. It seems to be instead an compatibility between
vncsession and startxfce4.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/24/24 08:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was 
dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:


/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
glx: failed to create drisw screen
failed to load driver: zink
xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already 
running

xinit: connection to X server lost

So this is not a Gnome limitation, but a systemd limitation.


You say the reason is there, but what reason are you seeing?  The only 
difference from when it does work is that last line from xinit.


(I was mistaken about the "already running" message.  That should happen 
because Xvnc is started and xfce should not be starting an X server.)


It does have something to do with running from systemd, but I have no 
idea what it is.  The xfce session starts, but something fails.  If you 
run the same command directly, it starts up correctly.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Samuel Sieb writes:


On 2/24/24 08:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Sam Varshavchik writes:
But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set session=xfce,  
but then something is still broken with systemd. systemctl start vncserver@: 
1 results in:


Feb 24 11:30:33 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting vncserver@: 
1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)…
Feb 24 11:30:34 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Started vncserver@: 
1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC).
Feb 24 11:30:35 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service:  
Deactivated successfully.


That's it, no further diagnostics, and nothing is listening on port 5901.


... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was  
dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:


/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
glx: failed to create drisw screen
failed to load driver: zink
xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already  
running

xinit: connection to X server lost

So this is not a Gnome limitation, but a systemd limitation.


It's an X limitation or an operating system limitation if you really want to  
call it that.  There can only be one X server on a port.  Change the display  
number.


They are different ports. I just verified that DISPLAY in the VNC session  
is :1.0


On the system console it's :0.0, of course.

Yet, I cannot start both of them, on Fedora, if both are running xfce. This  
is a documented limitation, in the package's HOWTO.



I run a VNC server with openbox using systemd and it works fine.


Now, try getting your VNC server up with an existing graphical session  
already running. It won't work, if both are XFCE (or if both are gnome, as I  
understand it).




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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Samuel Sieb writes:


On 2/24/24 07:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based  
configuration, but:


I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to  
set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on Fedora  
and was informed that launching vncserver was "deprecated", and pointed  
towards the documentation for Fefora's systemd-based configuration.


Reading through that, the following limitation is a showstopper for me:

# # Limitations
# You will not be able to start a Tigervnc server for a user who is already
# logged into a graphical session.

That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log  
into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.


This is not a limitation on Ubuntu. It's too bad that Fedora cannot do the  
same.


I don't see how that would work on Ubuntu either.  If there's already a  
session for a user, creating another session is going to cause great  
confusion and weird happenings.


I don't know what to tell you except that it works. I just VNCed into the  
Ubuntu box, and 'ps -ef' tells me I have two sessions running:


mrsam   18831846  0 10:00 ?00:00:00 xfce4-session
mrsam   54115408  0 16:37 ?00:00:00 xfce4-session

And just to make sure I wasn't nuts: I went over to the Ubuntu box and  
turned on the monitor: yup, I'm logged in, on an XFCE desktop. And I just  
disconnected a VNC session to the remote XFCE desktop.


They are different desktops:

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/24/24 08:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Sam Varshavchik writes:
But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set 
session=xfce, but then something is still broken with systemd. 
systemctl start vncserver@:1 results in:


Feb 24 11:30:33 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting 
vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)…
Feb 24 11:30:34 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Started 
vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC).
Feb 24 11:30:35 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: 
vncserver@:1.service: Deactivated successfully.


That's it, no further diagnostics, and nothing is listening on port 5901.


... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was 
dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:


/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
glx: failed to create drisw screen
failed to load driver: zink
xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already 
running

xinit: connection to X server lost

So this is not a Gnome limitation, but a systemd limitation.


It's an X limitation or an operating system limitation if you really 
want to call it that.  There can only be one X server on a port.  Change 
the display number.


I run a VNC server with openbox using systemd and it works fine.
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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/24/24 07:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based 
configuration, but:


I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple 
to set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on 
Fedora and was informed that launching vncserver was "deprecated", and 
pointed towards the documentation for Fefora's systemd-based configuration.


Reading through that, the following limitation is a showstopper for me:

# # Limitations
# You will not be able to start a Tigervnc server for a user who is already
# logged into a graphical session.

That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically 
log into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.


This is not a limitation on Ubuntu. It's too bad that Fedora cannot do 
the same.


I don't see how that would work on Ubuntu either.  If there's already a 
session for a user, creating another session is going to cause great 
confusion and weird happenings.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 24 Feb 2024 at 16:55, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

From:   Sam Varshavchik 
To: Community support for Fedora users 

Subject:Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation
Date sent:  Sat, 24 Feb 2024 16:55:05 -0500
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> Michael D. Setzer II via users writes:
> 
> > As I stated. I've found Turbo VNC seems to work very well.
> > At my home, I've got a notebook, and use it to vnc into 6 other
> > Fedora 39 machines, and two windows machines in house.
> 
> I hear you. I'm not married to tigervnc, just not sure if trying to get  
> turbovnc installed and set up will be more or less work, given that, it  
> appears, it's not in Fedora, but in an external repository, with everything  
> that that means.
> 
> The issue is not with tigervnc itself, but with its packaging. My  
> recollection of the early days of Fedora is that the guiding principle was  
> to stay close to upstream packaging. This is not happening anymore.
> 
> 

The repo file is:
cat TurboVNC.repo
[TurboVNC]
name=TurboVNC official RPMs
baseurl=https://packagecloud.io/dcommander/turbovnc/rpm_any/rpm_any/$bas
earch
repo_gpgcheck=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=https://packagecloud.io/dcommander/turbovnc/gpgkey
   https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TurboVNC/repo/main/VGL-GPG-KEY
   
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TurboVNC/repo/main/VGL-GPG-KEY-1024
enabled=1
sslverify=1
sslcacert=/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt
metadata_expire=6h
skip_if_unavailable=True

[TurboVNC-source]
name=TurboVNC official SRPMs
baseurl=https://packagecloud.io/dcommander/turbovnc/rpm_any/rpm_any/SRP
MS
repo_gpgcheck=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=https://packagecloud.io/dcommander/turbovnc/gpgkey
   https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TurboVNC/repo/main/VGL-GPG-KEY
   
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TurboVNC/repo/main/VGL-GPG-KEY-1024
enabled=1
sslverify=1
sslcacert=/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt
metadata_expire=6h
skip_if_unavailable=True

Used Tightvnc back in days of Redhat and a number of Fedora 
Core version, then they switch to the tigervnc and that worked for 
a long time, then stopped working if local login, with vnc using 
wayland/gnome 3. The xfce did work until Fedora 39, and then it 
stopped. The stopped supporting the vncserver option, and I could 
never get it to work even with xfce. So turbovnc was my only 
option. It has worked fine on my test machine, and now on all 
machines.

Well, hope you can get something to work either with tigervnc or 
turbovnc, but I tried and failed with tigervnc. It worked to 38, but 
39 made it impossible. So, looks like you have to do things the 
exact tigervnc way with systemd or out of luck.


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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Michael D. Setzer II via users writes:


As I stated. I've found Turbo VNC seems to work very well.
At my home, I've got a notebook, and use it to vnc into 6 other
Fedora 39 machines, and two windows machines in house.


I hear you. I'm not married to tigervnc, just not sure if trying to get  
turbovnc installed and set up will be more or less work, given that, it  
appears, it's not in Fedora, but in an external repository, with everything  
that that means.


The issue is not with tigervnc itself, but with its packaging. My  
recollection of the early days of Fedora is that the guiding principle was  
to stay close to upstream packaging. This is not happening anymore.




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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
As I stated. I've found Turbo VNC seems to work very well.
At my home, I've got a notebook, and use it to vnc into 6 other 
Fedora 39 machines, and two windows machines in house. Also, 
vnc into remote machines in mom's house in Nevada. Windows 
machines all with the tigervnc since Turbo is link only for server. 
Does have a windows viewer.

Right non at Mom's in Nevada from Guam. Brought 2 notebooks, 
and now local vnc into her machines, and can vnc back to my 
machines in Guam with no issues.

Think Tigervnc was still able to work with up to Fedora 38, but 39 
had it stop working even with the xfce. So moved everything to the 
Turbovnc with linux. Author has responded to quiestions, so seems 
active. Am also other the Tigervnc list, and TurboVNC also is on it.

So, good luck and hope you find a solution that will meet your 
needs. Note. I did uninstall most of tigervnc packages.
Only left these
rpm -qa | grep tiger
libtiger-0.3.4-26.fc39.x86_64
tigervnc-license-1.13.1-11.fc39.noarch
tigervnc-server-minimal-1.13.1-11.fc39.x86_64

Since if try to remove them, it comes up with all kinds of other 
packages that it wants to remove.  Not sure if libtiger is even 
linked to tigervnc, but it shows up.

turbovnc-3.1.1-20240127.x86_64 is the turbovnc package.

Installation has
$ du /opt/TurboVNC/ | sort -n 
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.datatransfer
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.logging
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.naming
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.prefs
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.security.jgss
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.security.sasl
4   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/jdk.crypto.ec
8   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/conf/sdp
12  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/conf/security/policy/unlimited
12  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/jdk.crypto.cryptoki
16  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/conf/security/policy/limited
36  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/bin
36  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/conf/security/policy
44  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.desktop
52  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.xml
96  /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal/java.base
100 /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/conf/security
104 /opt/TurboVNC/man/man1
108 /opt/TurboVNC/man
128 /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/conf
236 /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/legal
416 /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/lib/security
5980/opt/TurboVNC/bin
23448   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/lib/server
60948   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre/lib
61356   /opt/TurboVNC/java/jre
63028   /opt/TurboVNC/java
69124   /opt/TurboVNC/

So, works well for me.  





On 24 Feb 2024 at 15:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

From:   Sam Varshavchik 
To: Community support for Fedora users 

Subject:Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation
Date sent:  Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:10:33 -0500
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> francis.montag...@inria.fr writes:
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:52:40 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >
> > > But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set  
> > session=xfce,
> >
> > > ... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was
> > > dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:
> >
> > > /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
> > > MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
> > > glx: failed to create drisw screen
> > > failed to load driver: zink
> > > xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already  
> > running
> > > xinit: connection to X server lost
> >
> > It works by setting in ~/.vnc/config:
> >
> >   session=xfce4
> >
> > not session=xfce.
> >
> > Seems that /usr/sbin/vncsession calls then xfce4-session.
> >
> > I don't have an xfce-session command on my machine.
> 
> This is at odds with the HOWTO in the tigervnc-server package, which states:
> 
> =
> ### Note:
> There is one important option you need to set and that option is the session 
> you
> want to start. E.g when you want to start GNOME desktop, then you have to use
> “`
> session=gnome
> “`
> which should match the name of a session desktop file from  
> `/usr/share/xsessions` directory.
> =
> 
> And here's what I have:
> 
> # ls /usr/share/xsessions
> gnome.desktop  gnome-xorg.desktop  xfce.desktop
> 
> That's where "session=xfce" came from. So I changed it to xfce4. This time  
> it started. No wanting to believe my luck I connected with vncviewer...
> 
> ... and I ended up looking at Gnome's login screen. The invalid  
> "session=xfce4" setting was ignored, and the session defaulted to Gnome.
> 
> So, it

Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

francis.montag...@inria.fr writes:


Hi.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:52:40 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set  
session=xfce,


> ... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was
> dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:

> /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
> MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
> glx: failed to create drisw screen
> failed to load driver: zink
> xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already  
running

> xinit: connection to X server lost

It works by setting in ~/.vnc/config:

  session=xfce4

not session=xfce.

Seems that /usr/sbin/vncsession calls then xfce4-session.

I don't have an xfce-session command on my machine.


This is at odds with the HOWTO in the tigervnc-server package, which states:

=
### Note:
There is one important option you need to set and that option is the session you
want to start. E.g when you want to start GNOME desktop, then you have to use
“`
session=gnome
“`
which should match the name of a session desktop file from  
`/usr/share/xsessions` directory.

=

And here's what I have:

# ls /usr/share/xsessions
gnome.desktop  gnome-xorg.desktop  xfce.desktop

That's where "session=xfce" came from. So I changed it to xfce4. This time  
it started. No wanting to believe my luck I connected with vncviewer...


... and I ended up looking at Gnome's login screen. The invalid  
"session=xfce4" setting was ignored, and the session defaulted to Gnome.


So, it's true that one can be logged into an XFCE desktop and be able to  
start a Gnome VNC session. But that does me no good.




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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:52:40 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set session=xfce,  

> ... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was  
> dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:

> /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
> MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
> glx: failed to create drisw screen
> failed to load driver: zink
> xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already 
> running
> xinit: connection to X server lost

It works by setting in ~/.vnc/config:

  session=xfce4

not session=xfce.

Seems that /usr/sbin/vncsession calls then xfce4-session.

I don't have an xfce-session command on my machine.

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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Sam Varshavchik writes:


Michael D. Setzer II via users writes:


On 24 Feb 2024 at 10:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log
> into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.

Not sure on the latest version of tigervnc on Fedora, for a while I
was able to have it work, but had to change the configuration to
have the vnc use XFCE (heard others had used mate or other) but
the wayland/gnome 3 definitely do not allow for dual user sessions
local/vnc.


Oh, this is a Gnome thing? That's not a problem for me, since I use XFCE  
anyway.


But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set session=xfce,  
but then something is still broken with systemd. systemctl start vncserver@: 
1 results in:


Feb 24 11:30:33 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting vncserver@: 
1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)…
Feb 24 11:30:34 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Started vncserver@: 
1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC).
Feb 24 11:30:35 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service:  
Deactivated successfully.


That's it, no further diagnostics, and nothing is listening on port 5901.


... and that was because even xfce is not going to work. The reason was  
dumped into ~/.vnc/*log:


/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1
MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
glx: failed to create drisw screen
failed to load driver: zink
xfce4-session-Message: 11:40:42.960: SSH authentication agent is already running
xinit: connection to X server lost

So this is not a Gnome limitation, but a systemd limitation.


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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Michael D. Setzer II via users writes:


On 24 Feb 2024 at 10:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log
> into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.

Not sure on the latest version of tigervnc on Fedora, for a while I
was able to have it work, but had to change the configuration to
have the vnc use XFCE (heard others had used mate or other) but
the wayland/gnome 3 definitely do not allow for dual user sessions
local/vnc.


Oh, this is a Gnome thing? That's not a problem for me, since I use XFCE  
anyway.


But something is still broken. I went through the motions, set session=xfce,  
but then something is still broken with systemd. systemctl start vncserver@: 
1 results in:


Feb 24 11:30:33 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting 
vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)…
Feb 24 11:30:34 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Started vncserver@:1.service 
- Remote desktop service (VNC).
Feb 24 11:30:35 monster.email-scan.com systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: 
Deactivated successfully.

That's it, no further diagnostics, and nothing is listening on port 5901.



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Re: tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 24 Feb 2024 at 10:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

From:   Sam Varshavchik 
To: Fedora Users List 
Subject:tigervnc server configuration limitation
Date sent:  Sat, 24 Feb 2024 10:10:42 -0500
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users 


> I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based  
> configuration, but:
> 
> I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to  
> set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on Fedora  
> and was informed that launching vncserver was "deprecated", and pointed  
> towards the documentation for Fefora's systemd-based configuration.
> 
> Reading through that, the following limitation is a showstopper for me:
> 
> # # Limitations
> # You will not be able to start a Tigervnc server for a user who is already
> # logged into a graphical session.
> 
> That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log  
> into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.

Not sure on the latest version of tigervnc on Fedora, for a while I 
was able to have it work, but had to change the configuration to 
have the vnc use XFCE (heard others had used mate or other) but 
the wayland/gnome 3 definitely do not allow for dual user sessions 
local/vnc. 

I eventually moved to using turbovnc. 
https://turbovnc.org/
It installs in /opt/TurboVNC/ with the programs in bin subdirectory.

Configuration is done via /etc/sysconfig/tvncserver
Note change port number to xx and changed user id to userid.
Would need to select your userid and the port want to use. 
5900+xx

One thing. I create a link to the vncviewer since it doesn't place 
file in /usr/bin
/usr/bin/vncviewer -> /opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncviewer
I do have it set to use -wm xfce, so would need to install the xfce 
group, or whatever desktop manager you want. 
If nothing else an option that might work for you.

# The VNCSERVERS variable is a list of display:user pairs, 
separated by
# spaces.
#
# Uncomment the first line below to start a TurboVNC session 
under the account
# 'myusername' (adjust this to your own username) and listening 
on Display :1.
# You will also need to configure a VNC password (run
# 'man -M {TurboVNC_directory}/man vncpasswd' for 
instructions) or another form
# of authentication.  See the TurboVNC User's Guide for more 
information about
# the authentication methods available in TurboVNC.  If you 
intend to connect
# to the TurboVNC session over an untrusted network, then it is 
strongly
# recommended that you configure the session to require TLS or 
SSH encryption.
# Refer to the TurboVNC User's Guide and the Xvnc man page
# ('man -M {TurboVNC_directory}/man Xvnc') for more 
information.  Set the
# VNCSERVERARGS[n] variable in order to specify arguments that 
should be passed
# to vncserver when creating the TurboVNC session for Display :n.  
Refer to
# the TurboVNC Server man pages ('man -M 
{TurboVNC_directory}/man vncserver'
# and 'man -M {TurboVNC_directory}/man Xvnc') for a list of 
possible arguments.

# VNCSERVERS="1:myusername"
# VNCSERVERARGS[1]=""
VNCSERVERS="xx:userid"
VNCSERVERARGS[xx]="-wm xfce -geometry 1600x845"


It does create a systemd thing??

systemctl status tvncserver
● tvncserver.service - LSB: Starts and stops the TurboVNC Server
 Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/tvncserver; generated)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d
 └─10-timeout-abort.conf
 Active: active (exited) since Thu 2024-02-22 15:51:40 ChST; 2 days ago
   Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
CPU: 36ms


> 
> This is not a limitation on Ubuntu. It's too bad that Fedora cannot do the  
> same.
> 
> 


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tigervnc server configuration limitation

2024-02-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I'm not sure when Fedora switched to the current tigervnc systemd-based  
configuration, but:


I've been using tigervnc to log in to an Ubuntu box, and it was simple to  
set up tigervnc on Ubuntu for remote access. I just tried the same on Fedora  
and was informed that launching vncserver was "deprecated", and pointed  
towards the documentation for Fefora's systemd-based configuration.


Reading through that, the following limitation is a showstopper for me:

# # Limitations
# You will not be able to start a Tigervnc server for a user who is already
# logged into a graphical session.

That's a no-go for me. My Fedora system is configured to automatically log  
into a graphical desktop. This won't work for me, then.


This is not a limitation on Ubuntu. It's too bad that Fedora cannot do the  
same.




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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/15/23 09:03, Barry Scott wrote:


What do you get when you do the following commands:

rpm -ql rpm-libs
dnf list installed rpm-libs




I am on FC39 now and I forced updated dnf to
the fc39 version


$ rpm -ql rpm-libs
/usr/lib/.build-id
/usr/lib/.build-id/a8
/usr/lib/.build-id/a8/ad83daa16d97f5c842e86a70f9e51cbe02094f
/usr/lib/.build-id/ec
/usr/lib/.build-id/ec/1c5daeb02d49221df9e4c206be1825dc361f4a
/usr/lib64/librpm.so.10
/usr/lib64/librpm.so.10.0.0
/usr/lib64/librpmio.so.10
/usr/lib64/librpmio.so.10.0.0
/usr/lib64/rpm-plugins

~$ dnf list installed rpm-libs
Installed Packages
rpm-libs.x86_64  4.19.0-1.fc39
@fedora


Are you running the ARM version of fedora?

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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/15/23 10:28, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

`dnf repolist enabled` may be helpful:

$ dnf repolist enabled
repo idrepo name
fedora Fedora 39 - x86_64
fedora-cisco-openh264  Fedora 39 OpenH264 (from Cisco) - x86_64
updatesFedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates

But it looks like they are stock in F39:

$ dnf whatprovides 'librpmio.so*'
rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.i686 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Provide: librpmio.so.10

rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages
Repo: @System
Matched from:
Provide: librpmio.so.10()(64bit)

rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Provide: librpmio.so.10()(64bit)

Jeff



Keep in mind that

 dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=39

failed to update me to the fc39 version of dnf.  When
I forced the issue, things worked fine.  But first
I had to get dnf working, which is why the 9--> 10 links.

Download grade to fc38 version of dnf before running all
your tests



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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 12:04 PM Barry Scott  wrote:
>
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 16:18, ToddAndMargo via users 
>  wrote:
>
> I had the same as you until today when I did a `dnf upgrade`.
> Then all hell broke loose and librpmio and librpm got upgraded
> to 10.
>
> On my f38 system there is no .10
>
> # dnf install /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10
> Last metadata expiration check: 3:43:48 ago on Wed 15 Nov 2023 13:16:33 GMT.
> No match for argument: /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10
> Error: Unable to find a match: /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10
>
> What do you get when you do the following commands:
>
> rpm -ql rpm-libs
> dnf list installed rpm-libs
>
> This is what I see:
>
> [root@armf38 ~]# rpm -ql rpm-libs
> /usr/lib/.build-id
> /usr/lib/.build-id/1a
> /usr/lib/.build-id/1a/eb222329842e6fb62cf39efa961713445a579e
> /usr/lib/.build-id/7b
> /usr/lib/.build-id/7b/c93dcd84e2911ac9ce66e44543f2ece1d30a53
> /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9
> /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
> /usr/lib64/librpmio.so.9
> /usr/lib64/librpmio.so.9.4.0
> /usr/lib64/rpm-plugins
> [root@armf38 ~]# dnf list installed rpm-libs
> Installed Packages
> rpm-libs.aarch644.18.1-3.fc38
> @updates
> [root@armf38 ~]#
>
> I am especially interested in the repo that your .so.10 came from.
> My .so.9 came from @updates.

`dnf repolist enabled` may be helpful:

   $ dnf repolist enabled
   repo idrepo name
   fedora Fedora 39 - x86_64
   fedora-cisco-openh264  Fedora 39 OpenH264 (from Cisco) - x86_64
   updatesFedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates

But it looks like they are stock in F39:

   $ dnf whatprovides 'librpmio.so*'
   rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.i686 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages
   Repo: fedora
   Matched from:
   Provide: librpmio.so.10

   rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages
   Repo: @System
   Matched from:
   Provide: librpmio.so.10()(64bit)

   rpm-libs-4.19.0-1.fc39.x86_64 : Libraries for manipulating RPM packages
   Repo: fedora
   Matched from:
   Provide: librpmio.so.10()(64bit)

Jeff
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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread Barry Scott


> On 15 Nov 2023, at 16:18, ToddAndMargo via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had the same as you until today when I did a `dnf upgrade`.
> Then all hell broke loose and librpmio and librpm got upgraded
> to 10.

On my f38 system there is no .10

# dnf install /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10
Last metadata expiration check: 3:43:48 ago on Wed 15 Nov 2023 13:16:33 GMT.
No match for argument: /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10
Error: Unable to find a match: /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10

What do you get when you do the following commands:

rpm -ql rpm-libs
dnf list installed rpm-libs

This is what I see:

[root@armf38 ~]# rpm -ql rpm-libs
/usr/lib/.build-id
/usr/lib/.build-id/1a
/usr/lib/.build-id/1a/eb222329842e6fb62cf39efa961713445a579e
/usr/lib/.build-id/7b
/usr/lib/.build-id/7b/c93dcd84e2911ac9ce66e44543f2ece1d30a53
/usr/lib64/librpm.so.9
/usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
/usr/lib64/librpmio.so.9
/usr/lib64/librpmio.so.9.4.0
/usr/lib64/rpm-plugins
[root@armf38 ~]# dnf list installed rpm-libs
Installed Packages
rpm-libs.aarch644.18.1-3.fc38
@updates
[root@armf38 ~]#

I am especially interested in the repo that your .so.10 came from.
My .so.9 came from @updates.

Barry

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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users



On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:07 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:





On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


How do I fix this?


You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the
no-longer
needed dependencies.


dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.


On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote:
  > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 ->
  > librpm.so.9.4.0
  > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
  >
  > so
  > cd /usr/lib64
  > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9
  >
  > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there.   But if that link is
  > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are
  > also gone.
  >

# ls -al librpm.so*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 ->
librpm.so.10.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0


Hmmm ...



Okay,

I got dnf to work again with the following:

/usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9
/usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9

Now how do I fix it right?

Just posted:
 dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732



On 11/15/23 08:02, Roger Heflin wrote:
> It would have to be some sort of package problem.   Unless something
> specifically deleted that so.9 link (which seems unlikely).
>
> Clearly dnf thinks it needs so.9 but you only have so.10
>
> I just upgraded my fc38 machine and have so.9 and this rpm version.
>
> What fedora version do you have and what rpm do you have?
>
> rpm -qa --filesbypkg | grep -i librpm.so
> rpm-libs  /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9
> rpm-libs  /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
> rpm -qa | grep -i rpm-libs
> rpm-libs-4.18.1-3.fc38.x86_64
>

I had the same as you until today when I did a `dnf upgrade`.
Then all hell broke loose and librpmio and librpm got upgraded
to 10.


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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread Roger Heflin
It would have to be some sort of package problem.   Unless something
specifically deleted that so.9 link (which seems unlikely).

Clearly dnf thinks it needs so.9 but you only have so.10

I just upgraded my fc38 machine and have so.9 and this rpm version.

What fedora version do you have and what rpm do you have?

rpm -qa --filesbypkg | grep -i librpm.so
rpm-libs  /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9
rpm-libs  /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
rpm -qa | grep -i rpm-libs
rpm-libs-4.18.1-3.fc38.x86_64

On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:07 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:
>
> On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:
> >>>> On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How do I fix this?
> >>>>
> >>>> You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the
> >>>> no-longer
> >>>> needed dependencies.
> >>>
> >>> dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.
> >
> > On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote:
> >  > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 ->
> >  > librpm.so.9.4.0
> >  > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
> >  >
> >  > so
> >  > cd /usr/lib64
> >  > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9
> >  >
> >  > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there.   But if that link is
> >  > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are
> >  > also gone.
> >  >
> >
> > # ls -al librpm.so*
> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 ->
> > librpm.so.10.0.0
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0
> >
> >
> > Hmmm ...
> >
>
> Okay,
>
> I got dnf to work again with the following:
>
> /usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9
> /usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9
>
> Now how do I fix it right?
>
> Just posted:
> dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/14/23 19:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:





On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


How do I fix this?


You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the 
no-longer

needed dependencies.


dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.


On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote:
 > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 ->
 > librpm.so.9.4.0
 > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
 >
 > so
 > cd /usr/lib64
 > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9
 >
 > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there.   But if that link is
 > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are
 > also gone.
 >

# ls -al librpm.so*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 -> 
librpm.so.10.0.0

-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0


Hmmm ...



Okay,

I got dnf to work again with the following:

/usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9
/usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9

Now how do I fix it right?

Just posted:
    dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732



dnf was still on FC38.

The real fix:

# dnf upgrade dnf  --releasever=39

Failed on its 


# dnf upgrade   --releasever=39

3000+ file later,


# dnf upgrade dnf  --releasever=39 --best --allowerasing

273 files later, and


# rpm -qa dnf
dnf-4.18.1-1.fc39.noarch

Fixed
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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:





On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


How do I fix this?


You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the 
no-longer

needed dependencies.


dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.


On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote:
 > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 ->
 > librpm.so.9.4.0
 > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
 >
 > so
 > cd /usr/lib64
 > ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9
 >
 > Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there.   But if that link is
 > missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are
 > also gone.
 >

# ls -al librpm.so*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 -> 
librpm.so.10.0.0

-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0


Hmmm ...



Okay,

I got dnf to work again with the following:

/usr/lib64# ln -s librpmio.so.10.0.0 librpmio.so.9
/usr/lib64# ln -s librpm.so.10.0.0 librpm.so.9

Now how do I fix it right?

Just posted:
   dnf looking for outdated librpmio and librpm
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249732







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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users





On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


How do I fix this?


You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer
needed dependencies.


dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.


On 11/14/23 17:19, Roger Heflin wrote:
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 ->
> librpm.so.9.4.0
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0
>
> so
> cd /usr/lib64
> ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9
>
> Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there.   But if that link is
> missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are
> also gone.
>

# ls -al librpm.so*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10 -> librpm.so.10.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 563032 Sep 18 17:00 librpm.so.10.0.0


Hmmm ...

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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread Roger Heflin
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9 ->
librpm.so.9.4.0
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 551368 Apr 24  2023 /usr/lib64/librpm.so.9.4.0

so
cd /usr/lib64
ln -s librpm.so.9.4.0 librpm.so.9

Assuming the librpm.so.9.4.0 is still there.   But if that link is
missing there is a decent chance that other links and/or files are
also gone.



On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:
>
> On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >>
> >> How do I fix this?
> >
> > You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer
> > needed dependencies.
>
> dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.
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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/14/23 16:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/14/23 16:16, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

How do I fix this?

Many thanks,
-T


# rpm -qa tiger\*
tigervnc-license-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch
tigervnc-icons-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch
tigervnc-1.13.1-6.fc38.x86_64

# dnf remove tigervnc-1.13.1-6.fc38.x86_64 
tigervnc-icons-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch tigervnc-license-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 61, in 
 from dnf.cli import main
   File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, 
in 

 import dnf.base
   File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in 


 import libdnf.transaction
   File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line 
14, in 

 from . import conf
   File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libdnf/conf.py", line 10, 
in 

 from . import _conf
ImportError: librpm.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
or directory


Seems like this is a nnf issue.  This give the same
output:

# dnf whatprovides libplist



I removed tigervnc with rpm.  Now I am trying to fix dnf
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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


How do I fix this?


You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer 
needed dependencies.


dnf is giving me the same output for any command I give it.
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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 11/14/23 16:16, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

How do I fix this?

Many thanks,
-T


# rpm -qa tiger\*
tigervnc-license-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch
tigervnc-icons-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch
tigervnc-1.13.1-6.fc38.x86_64

# dnf remove tigervnc-1.13.1-6.fc38.x86_64 
tigervnc-icons-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch tigervnc-license-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 61, in 
     from dnf.cli import main
   File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, in 


     import dnf.base
   File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in 


     import libdnf.transaction
   File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line 
14, in 

     from . import conf
   File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libdnf/conf.py", line 10, 
in 

     from . import _conf
ImportError: librpm.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
or directory


Seems like this is a nnf issue.  This give the same
output:

# dnf whatprovides libplist



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Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread Joe Zeff

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


How do I fix this?


You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer 
needed dependencies.

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tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

How do I fix this?

Many thanks,
-T


# rpm -qa tiger\*
tigervnc-license-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch
tigervnc-icons-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch
tigervnc-1.13.1-6.fc38.x86_64

# dnf remove tigervnc-1.13.1-6.fc38.x86_64 
tigervnc-icons-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch tigervnc-license-1.13.1-6.fc38.noarch


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 61, in 
from dnf.cli import main
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, in 


import dnf.base
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in 


import libdnf.transaction
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line 
14, in 

from . import conf
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libdnf/conf.py", line 10, 
in 

from . import _conf
ImportError: librpm.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
or directory

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Re: tigervnc fails with "Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running(EE)"

2023-01-13 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/13/23 18:58, Jonathan Billings wrote:


On Jan 13, 2023, at 21:45, Alex  wrote:

vncserver[5803]: Could not start Xvnc.
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() 
failed
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
vncserver[5803]: (EE)
vncserver[5803]: Fatal server error:
vncserver[5803]: (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X 
server isn't already running(EE)
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() 
failed
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
vncserver[5803]: (EE)
vncserver[5803]: Fatal server error:
vncserver[5803]: (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X 
server isn't already running(EE)
systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: Control process exited, code=exited, 
status=255/EXCEPTION
systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
systemd[1]: Failed to start vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC).

Could missing fonts really cause this? What more can I do to troubleshoot this?


The font thing is a warning. (See where it says WARNING)

You missed the errors:


vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running


There’s already something listening on the port it is trying to run on. Perhaps 
take a look at what port it is listening on and fix that.


Or possibly it just can't open that port.  Check the journal for selinux 
messages or anything else.

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Re: tigervnc fails with "Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running(EE)"

2023-01-13 Thread Jonathan Billings

On Jan 13, 2023, at 21:45, Alex  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I have a fedora37 desktop install with tigervnc-server and can't get it to 
> start. I'd like it to start on system boot.
> 
> I've followed the HOWTO.md as well as numerous examples online, and can't 
> figure out what's wrong.  I've set the vncpasswd for the user listed in 
> vncserver.users.
> 
> /etc/tigervnc/vncserver.users:
> :1=gary
> 
> $ cat ~/.vnc/config|grep -Ev '^$|^#'
> session=gnome
> securitytypes=vncauth,tlsvnc
> geometry=800x600
> 
> # systemctl start vncserver@:1
> Job for vncserver@:1.service failed because the control process exited with 
> error code.
> See "systemctl status vncserver@:1.service" and "journalctl -xeu 
> vncserver@:1.service" for details.
> 
> systemd[1]: Starting vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)...
> vncserver[5803]: WARNING: vncserver has been replaced by a systemd unit and 
> is now considered deprecated and removed in upstream.
> vncserver[5803]: Please read /usr/share/doc/tigervnc/HOWTO.md for more 
> information.
> vncserver[5803]: WARNING: The first attempt to start Xvnc failed, possibly 
> because the font
> vncserver[5803]: catalog is not properly configured.  Attempting to determine 
> an appropriate
> vncserver[5803]: font path for this system and restart Xvnc using that font 
> path ...
> vncserver[5803]: Could not start Xvnc.
> vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: 
> ...SocketCreateListener() failed
> vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
> vncserver[5803]: (EE)
> vncserver[5803]: Fatal server error:
> vncserver[5803]: (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X 
> server isn't already running(EE)
> vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: 
> ...SocketCreateListener() failed
> vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
> vncserver[5803]: (EE)
> vncserver[5803]: Fatal server error:
> vncserver[5803]: (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X 
> server isn't already running(EE)
> systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: Control process exited, code=exited, 
> status=255/EXCEPTION
> systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
> systemd[1]: Failed to start vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service 
> (VNC).
> 
> Could missing fonts really cause this? What more can I do to troubleshoot 
> this?

The font thing is a warning. (See where it says WARNING)

You missed the errors:

> vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running

There’s already something listening on the port it is trying to run on. Perhaps 
take a look at what port it is listening on and fix that. 


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tigervnc fails with "Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running(EE)"

2023-01-13 Thread Alex
Hi,
I have a fedora37 desktop install with tigervnc-server and can't get it to
start. I'd like it to start on system boot.

I've followed the HOWTO.md as well as numerous examples online, and can't
figure out what's wrong.  I've set the vncpasswd for the user listed in
vncserver.users.

/etc/tigervnc/vncserver.users:
:1=gary

$ cat ~/.vnc/config|grep -Ev '^$|^#'
session=gnome
securitytypes=vncauth,tlsvnc
geometry=800x600

# systemctl start vncserver@:1
Job for vncserver@:1.service failed because the control process exited with
error code.
See "systemctl status vncserver@:1.service" and "journalctl -xeu
vncserver@:1.service"
for details.

systemd[1]: Starting vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)...
vncserver[5803]: WARNING: vncserver has been replaced by a systemd unit and
is now considered deprecated and removed in upstream.
vncserver[5803]: Please read /usr/share/doc/tigervnc/HOWTO.md for more
information.
vncserver[5803]: WARNING: The first attempt to start Xvnc failed, possibly
because the font
vncserver[5803]: catalog is not properly configured.  Attempting to
determine an appropriate
vncserver[5803]: font path for this system and restart Xvnc using that font
path ...
vncserver[5803]: Could not start Xvnc.
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener:
...SocketCreateListener() failed
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already
running
vncserver[5803]: (EE)
vncserver[5803]: Fatal server error:
vncserver[5803]: (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an
X server isn't already running(EE)
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener:
...SocketCreateListener() failed
vncserver[5803]: _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already
running
vncserver[5803]: (EE)
vncserver[5803]: Fatal server error:
vncserver[5803]: (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an
X server isn't already running(EE)
systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: Control process exited, code=exited,
status=255/EXCEPTION
systemd[1]: vncserver@:1.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
systemd[1]: Failed to start vncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service
(VNC).

Could missing fonts really cause this? What more can I do to troubleshoot
this?
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[SOLVED] tigervnc: Attempted to configure an invalid screen layout

2021-12-27 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 19:49:08 +0100 Frank Elsner via users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've problems to connect to an vnc server. Tigervnc dies with the message
> 
>   Attempted to configure an invalid screen layout

The UltraVNC on the server was replaced by an updated version. Now it works.


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Re: TigerVNC fails to display new windows properly

2019-05-19 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-05-19 at 14:23 -0400, Alex wrote:
> The reason the hostname is displayed as "localhost.localdomain" is
> because it's on a private IP range (192.168.9.110) without DNS, and
> I'm using port forwarding from the cable modem to this host for port
> 5900 through 6000.

I'm not sure if VNC will handle localhost being its hostname, it will
depend on how smart it is, or whether it bothers using hostnames.

localhost, and localhost.localdomain will normally resolve back to
127.0.0.1 (meaning "itself").  As such, connections may not get put
through to the remote side of things.

While some things will also add the local IP address to that line in
the /etc/hosts file, that can cause failures.  The machine's hostname
should resolve to its real IP (the one that other devices can reach it
at).

You don't need to have a DNS server to resolve hostnames.  You can add
it yourself to your /etc/hosts file (of course, you need to have a
fixed IP for this to be consistent).

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Re: TigerVNC fails to display new windows properly

2019-05-19 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/19/19 11:23 AM, Alex wrote:

Here is the command I run on the local machine to start the vncserver
as the regular user (gary):

$ vncserver :1 -geometry 800x600 -depth 24


Try running "export DISPLAY=:1" before that.
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TigerVNC fails to display new windows properly

2019-05-19 Thread Alex
Hi, I've installed tigervnc according to the instructions here for a
new fedora30 install:

https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Fedora_28&p=desktop&f=6

mate-desktop doesn't seem to work properly, so I've just stuck with
the default xinitrc, which produces the default fedora30 desktop.

I can connect to the remote machine after providing authorization,
then the local authorization at least twice and finally getting to the
remote desktop. It appears as it normally does, with "Activities" in
the upper-left.

The problem is that after starting any applications, whether it's the
file manager, Firefox, or a regular terminal, it starts, but the app
does not appear. I believe it's being directed to another display. Is
that possible?

I've started the application, and I can confirm it's running by
connecting to the machine via ssh and finding it in the process list,
but it just doesn't display on the remote desktop. I don't have
physical access to the machine to see if the app is started on the
default desktop.

Here is my ~/.vnc/xstartup:

$ cat xstartup
#!/bin/sh

unset SESSION_MANAGER
unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
#exec /usr/bin/mate-session

Here is the log file that is produced after starting vncserver:

$ cat localhost.localdomain\:1.log

Xvnc TigerVNC 1.9.0 - built Feb  3 2019 09:54:51
Copyright (C) 1999-2018 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.rst)
See http://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.
Underlying X server release 12003000, The X.Org Foundation

Thu May 16 20:28:43 2019
 vncext:  VNC extension running!
 vncext:  Listening for VNC connections on all interface(s), port 5901
 vncext:  created VNC server for screen 0

Thu May 16 20:28:47 2019
 ComparingUpdateTracker: 0 pixels in / 0 pixels out
 ComparingUpdateTracker: (1:-nan ratio)

Thu May 16 20:29:02 2019
 Connections: accepted: 68.195.199.42::37586
 SConnection: Client needs protocol version 3.8
 SConnection: Client requests security type VeNCrypt(19)
 SVeNCrypt:   Client requests security type TLSVnc (258)
 VNCSConnST:  Server default pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) little-endian rgb888
 VNCSConnST:  Client pixel format depth 24 (32bpp) little-endian rgb888

Here is the command I run on the local machine to start the vncserver
as the regular user (gary):

$ vncserver :1 -geometry 800x600 -depth 24

Here is what the vncserver command shows in the process table:

$ ps ax|grep vnc
 6991 pts/5Sl 0:05 /usr/bin/Xvnc :1 -auth
/home/gary/.Xauthority -depth 24 -desktop localhost.localdomain:1
(gary) -fp catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d -geometry 800x600 -pn
-rfbauth /home/gary/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5901 -rfbwait 3

The reason the hostname is displayed as "localhost.localdomain" is
because it's on a private IP range (192.168.9.110) without DNS, and
I'm using port forwarding from the cable modem to this host for port
5900 through 6000.

Ideas greatly appreciated.
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Re: Unable to bring TigerVNC server to get a remote display of other than the default 1024x768 in FC25

2017-06-28 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 06/27/2017 03:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

What I believe is that the vncviewer is doing is requesting 1024x768 and that 
is what
you'll get.  Now, the "interesting" or bad thing is that once you connect at a 
lower
resolution than what you want Xvnc will stick with it no matter what you do 
from the
viewer side.

So  Try disconnecting, restart the server, and then use "vncviewer -geometry
1600x1200 hostname:1" to connect.

In other words, once you connect with a given resolution you're stuck to it on
subsequent connections.  :-(


I was surprised to discover that xrandr works with Xvnc.  I had 
initially started the vnc server at 1024x768 as a convenient default. 
But checking with xrandr showed that long list of options and changing 
the mode worked and is persistent on future connections.  I use Remmina, 
but I expect vncviewer would work the same.  If not, Remmina works well 
and handles a wide variety of protocols and connection options.

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Re: Unable to bring TigerVNC server to get a remote display of other than the default 1024x768 in FC25

2017-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/28/17 01:46, Walter H. wrote:
> On 27.06.2017 19:23, Walter H. wrote:
>> xrandr only shows
>>
>> Screen 0: minimum 32 x 32, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32768 x 32768
>> VNC-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
>>1600x1200 60.00 +
>>1920x1200 60.00
>>1920x1080 60.00
>>1680x1050 60.00
>>1400x1050 60.00
>>1360x768  60.00
>>1280x1024 60.00
>>1280x960  60.00
>>1280x800  60.00
>>1280x720  60.00
>>1024x768  60.00*
>>800x600   60.00
>>640x480   60.00
>>
>> /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service
>> has this
>> ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1600x1200
>>
>> and ~/.vnc/config
>> has this
>> geometry=1600x1200
>>
>> and still connected with 1024x768 ... even when setting SELINUX to permissive
>> why?
>>
>> the goal is either 1600x1200 or 1280x1024, the default 1024x768 is too small
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Walter 
> strange thing
>
> when I'm connected and on a terminal I can enter the following
>
> xrandr -s 1280x1024
> or
> xrandr -s 1600x1200
> or
> xrandr -s 1920x1200
>
> and the display changes to this resolution on the fly
>
> how can I bring the system to do this before I connect via vncviewer from my 
> other
> box?

A couple of things

The 1600x1200 60.00 + in your xrandr output indicates what the Xserver, in 
this
case Xvnc, is offering as the optimal resolution and 1024x768  60.00* (with 
the
*) is what you've connected at.  But I think you already knew that.  I just 
like typing.

What I believe is that the vncviewer is doing is requesting 1024x768 and that 
is what
you'll get.  Now, the "interesting" or bad thing is that once you connect at a 
lower
resolution than what you want Xvnc will stick with it no matter what you do 
from the
viewer side.

So  Try disconnecting, restart the server, and then use "vncviewer -geometry
1600x1200 hostname:1" to connect.

In other words, once you connect with a given resolution you're stuck to it on
subsequent connections.  :-(

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Re: Unable to bring TigerVNC server to get a remote display of other than the default 1024x768 in FC25

2017-06-27 Thread Walter H.

On 27.06.2017 19:23, Walter H. wrote:

xrandr only shows

Screen 0: minimum 32 x 32, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32768 x 32768
VNC-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1600x1200 60.00 +
   1920x1200 60.00
   1920x1080 60.00
   1680x1050 60.00
   1400x1050 60.00
   1360x768  60.00
   1280x1024 60.00
   1280x960  60.00
   1280x800  60.00
   1280x720  60.00
   1024x768  60.00*
   800x600   60.00
   640x480   60.00

/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service
has this
ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1600x1200

and ~/.vnc/config
has this
geometry=1600x1200

and still connected with 1024x768 ... even when setting SELINUX to 
permissive

why?

the goal is either 1600x1200 or 1280x1024, the default 1024x768 is too 
small


Thanks,
Walter 

strange thing

when I'm connected and on a terminal I can enter the following

xrandr -s 1280x1024
or
xrandr -s 1600x1200
or
xrandr -s 1920x1200

and the display changes to this resolution on the fly

how can I bring the system to do this before I connect via vncviewer 
from my other box?


Thanks,
Walter



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Re: Unable to bring TigerVNC server to get a remote display of other than the default 1024x768 in FC25

2017-06-27 Thread Walter H.

On 26.06.2017 05:10, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/26/17 01:19, Walter H. wrote:

Hello,

I did nearly the same as here
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/ch-TigerVNC.html#s3-configuring-vnc-server


by the way this
ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l USER -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1280x1024"

must be
ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1280x1024

because the 'runuser'-variant doesn't work at all, no connection possible from
VNCviewer;

or is there also something missing in the SELinux policies?

the -geometry parameter is ignored, I only get a display of 1024x768 when
connecting with VNCviewer from other machine ...


FWIW.

My /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service contains...

ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1920x1080

The running process shows

egreshko   839 1  0 11:01 ?00:00:03 /usr/bin/Xvnc :1 -geometry 
1920x1080
-auth /home/egreshko/.Xauthority -desktop f25f.greshko.com:1 (egreshko) -fp
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d -httpd /usr/share/vnc/classes -pn -rfbauth
/home/egreshko/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5901 -rfbwait 3

how do you get this output?


And when I connect via vncviewer from another system I get the following output 
from
xrandr

Screen 0: minimum 32 x 32, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32768 x 32768
VNC-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1920x1080 60.00*+
1920x1200 60.00
1600x1200 60.00
1680x1050 60.00
1400x1050 60.00
1360x768  60.00
1280x1024 60.00
1280x960  60.00
1280x800  60.00
1280x720  60.00
1024x768  60.00
800x600   60.00
640x480   60.00

I also happen to set my ~/.vnc/config file to that geometry as a habit.

xrandr only shows

Screen 0: minimum 32 x 32, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32768 x 32768
VNC-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1600x1200 60.00 +
   1920x1200 60.00
   1920x1080 60.00
   1680x1050 60.00
   1400x1050 60.00
   1360x768  60.00
   1280x1024 60.00
   1280x960  60.00
   1280x800  60.00
   1280x720  60.00
   1024x768  60.00*
   800x600   60.00
   640x480   60.00

/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service
has this
ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1600x1200

and ~/.vnc/config
has this
geometry=1600x1200

and still connected with 1024x768 ... even when setting SELINUX to 
permissive

why?

the goal is either 1600x1200 or 1280x1024, the default 1024x768 is too small

Thanks,
Walter



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Re: Unable to bring TigerVNC server to get a remote display of other than the default 1024x768 in FC25

2017-06-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/17 01:19, Walter H. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did nearly the same as here
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/ch-TigerVNC.html#s3-configuring-vnc-server
>
>
> by the way this
> ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l USER -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1280x1024"
>
> must be
> ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1280x1024
>
> because the 'runuser'-variant doesn't work at all, no connection possible from
> VNCviewer;
>
> or is there also something missing in the SELinux policies?
>
> the -geometry parameter is ignored, I only get a display of 1024x768 when
> connecting with VNCviewer from other machine ...
>

FWIW.

My /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service contains...

ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1920x1080

The running process shows

egreshko   839 1  0 11:01 ?00:00:03 /usr/bin/Xvnc :1 -geometry 
1920x1080
-auth /home/egreshko/.Xauthority -desktop f25f.greshko.com:1 (egreshko) -fp
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d -httpd /usr/share/vnc/classes -pn -rfbauth
/home/egreshko/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5901 -rfbwait 3

And when I connect via vncviewer from another system I get the following output 
from
xrandr

Screen 0: minimum 32 x 32, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32768 x 32768
VNC-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1920x1080 60.00*+
   1920x1200 60.00 
   1600x1200 60.00 
   1680x1050 60.00 
   1400x1050 60.00 
   1360x768  60.00 
   1280x1024 60.00 
   1280x960  60.00 
   1280x800  60.00 
   1280x720  60.00 
   1024x768  60.00 
   800x600   60.00 
   640x480   60.00

I also happen to set my ~/.vnc/config file to that geometry as a habit.

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Unable to bring TigerVNC server to get a remote display of other than the default 1024x768 in FC25

2017-06-25 Thread Walter H.

Hello,

I did nearly the same as here
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/ch-TigerVNC.html#s3-configuring-vnc-server

by the way this
ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l USER -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 
1280x1024"


must be
ExecStart=/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1280x1024

because the 'runuser'-variant doesn't work at all, no connection 
possible from VNCviewer;


or is there also something missing in the SELinux policies?

the -geometry parameter is ignored, I only get a display of 1024x768 
when connecting with VNCviewer from other machine ...


Thanks,
Walter



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Flickering Desktop with tigervnc-1.5.0 on Fedora-23

2015-11-11 Thread Ziegenlippe

Hello,
When using tigervnc 1.5.0 server on fedora 23 workstation with tigervnc 
1.5.0 viewer on windows 7 (both 64bit) I can see the desktop. But it 
quickly flickers between the following view fragments in undeterministic 
order:


 * full login screen
 * Background image
 * black screen
 * just buttons,
 * just password text input

I can login somehow. But after login it happens the same. Only 
additionally the desktop is among the flickering fragments. It seems to 
work in general. I can open programs but it still flickers heavily.
It makes no difference whether I use it in window or full screen mode (2 
monitors in my case).


I have tried the fedora 23 installation on a bare metal server and on a 
vmware virtual machine with exactly the same problem.


Tigervnc 1.4.3 (server & viewer) fedora 22 and fedora 22 kde spin worked 
very well in my setup. So it seems not to by client side issue.


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Re: F18: TigerVnc incomplete?

2013-11-30 Thread Dan Thurman

On 11/30/2013 12:50 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

What's up with TigerVnc? It seems to be missing
the Ctrl-Alt-Del icon and other icons for Windoes?

If there is another VncClient that has it, what would
it be?


Ahh... memory lapse!  I forgot about 'F8' key!
Sorry for the noise!


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F18: TigerVnc incomplete?

2013-11-30 Thread Dan Thurman

What's up with TigerVnc? It seems to be missing
the Ctrl-Alt-Del icon and other icons for Windoes?

If there is another VncClient that has it, what would
it be?


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RE: tigervnc

2011-01-30 Thread compdoc
> yum search vnc, if you can't see it, add rpmfusion, look..., you can see
vnc4server and others things more, but i recommended vino and vinagre.

I tried searching with yum. And trying to find repos for fedora has been a
little difficult. Thanks for pointing to rpmfusion..

Vino is fine for sharing the desktop if someone is logged onto the console,
but if it's a headless server no one is ever logged on. You have to have a
vncserver for that.

It turns out the long pause at login was caused by a very slow drawing of
the background graphic (that default fedora 14 blue one)

I ended up installing gconf-editor, and then just turning off that unlock
pop-up, and the background screen, and also desktop animations.

No sense in having to enter my password twice, anyway.

Tigervnc is fast enough if I use the ultravnc client.

Thanks!



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Re: tigervnc

2011-01-30 Thread Edg@r Rodolfo
2011/1/29, compdoc :
> I have tigervnc server installed on a fedora 14 box, and when I use the
> Windows tigervnc client it is terribly slow.
>
> Normally, I use the ultravnc windows client which is very fast, however when
> I use it to connect to the tigervnc server, there is a long pause with a
> black screen before the unlock popup comes up.
>
> I think this is happening because the client and server are negotiating
> which encoding to use. But I might be completely wrong.
>
> After I log in, everything is fine - screen updates are fast and it works as
> it should. But if I let it idle, the screen blacks out again and the long
> pause occurs before the login prompt.
>
> Does anyone know how to prevent the long pause, or even better, where I can
> find vnc4server (Xvnc4) for fedora? Does it exist in some repo somewhere?
>
> Vnc4server is very fast and doesn't have these pause issues.
>
> Thanks for any help...

I tried remote control on fedora 14 with vino server and vinagre
client, it was very good, but if you want vnc server you can try
search:
yum search vnc, if yuo can't see it, add rpmfusion, look..., you can
see vnc4server and others things more, but i recommended vino and
vinagre.

In windows you can use vnc viewer, for me ti was good...

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tigervnc

2011-01-29 Thread compdoc
I have tigervnc server installed on a fedora 14 box, and when I use the
Windows tigervnc client it is terribly slow.

Normally, I use the ultravnc windows client which is very fast, however when
I use it to connect to the tigervnc server, there is a long pause with a
black screen before the unlock popup comes up.

I think this is happening because the client and server are negotiating
which encoding to use. But I might be completely wrong.

After I log in, everything is fine - screen updates are fast and it works as
it should. But if I let it idle, the screen blacks out again and the long
pause occurs before the login prompt.

Does anyone know how to prevent the long pause, or even better, where I can
find vnc4server (Xvnc4) for fedora? Does it exist in some repo somewhere?

Vnc4server is very fast and doesn't have these pause issues.

Thanks for any help...



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Re: Anaconda is insisting on installing TigerVNC-Server for dependencies

2010-09-04 Thread Claude Jones
On 9/4/2010 10:56 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 07:33 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
>> >  I didn't know anaconda was no longer necessary
> As far as I were aware, it never was.  It's the installer, it's not used
> post-installation.

I guess I never fully understood what it did - I somehow had the idea it 
was involved in detection of hardware - apparently, I had that somewhat 
wrong. This, from the fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda page is what I 
remembered: "During installation, a target computer's hardware is 
identified and configured and the appropriate file systems for the 
system's architecture are created." I had an imperfect recollection of 
this role and had assumed it was something needed in the event new 
hardware was added to a system...I guess that latter assumption doesn't 
follow from the quote.
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Re: Anaconda is insisting on installing TigerVNC-Server for dependencies

2010-09-04 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 07:33 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> I didn't know anaconda was no longer necessary

As far as I were aware, it never was.  It's the installer, it's not used
post-installation.

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Re: Anaconda is insisting on installing TigerVNC-Server for dependencies

2010-09-04 Thread Claude Jones
On 9/3/2010 2:53 AM, Hiisi wrote:
> Because there's an option for remote installation through VNC. But as
> Matthew already asked you, why do you need anaconda at all?

Thanks Matthew and Hiisi for your replies. Due to other issues affecting 
email the past two days, I've been slow with this reply. I didn't know 
anaconda was no longer necessary - I hadn't installed it purposefully 
and was under the assumption that it had been installed with my initial 
set of default packages when I installed Fedora. I seem to remember it 
being a vital part of the OS at one time and just assumed I should try 
to reinstall it when it was removed during my removal of TigerVNC-server...

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Re: Anaconda is insisting on installing TigerVNC-Server for dependencies

2010-09-02 Thread Hiisi
2010/9/3 Claude Jones :
> I removed tigervnc-server the other day to install RealVNC enterprise. I
> noticed while removing tigervnc that it also uninstalled Anaconda which
> seemed very strange. I just tried to reinstall Anaconda and it wants to
> reinstall Tigervnc-server for dependencies, but, if I try to do that, it
> conflicts with RealVNC server - anyone else seeing this?
>
> This is on Fedora 13 x64 with all the latest updates
>
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>

Because there's an option for remote installation through VNC. But as
Matthew already asked you, why do you need anaconda at all?
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Re: Anaconda is insisting on installing TigerVNC-Server for dependencies

2010-09-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:46:41PM -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> I removed tigervnc-server the other day to install RealVNC 
> enterprise. I noticed while removing tigervnc that it also 
> uninstalled Anaconda which seemed very strange. I just tried to 
> reinstall Anaconda and it wants to reinstall Tigervnc-server for 
> dependencies, but, if I try to do that, it conflicts with RealVNC 
> server - anyone else seeing this?

Why do you want anaconda installed?

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Anaconda is insisting on installing TigerVNC-Server for dependencies

2010-09-02 Thread Claude Jones
I removed tigervnc-server the other day to install RealVNC 
enterprise. I noticed while removing tigervnc that it also 
uninstalled Anaconda which seemed very strange. I just tried to 
reinstall Anaconda and it wants to reinstall Tigervnc-server for 
dependencies, but, if I try to do that, it conflicts with RealVNC 
server - anyone else seeing this?

This is on Fedora 13 x64 with all the latest updates
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