xdoclet plugin : Jboss

2003-07-13 Thread Andy Jefferson
I've been using the xdoclet plugin and have put the following into the
maven directories

repository/xdoclet/jars/
xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
xdoclet-ejb-module-1.2b4.jar
xdoclet-jboss-module-1.2b4.jar
xdoclet-jmx-module-1.2b4.jar
xdoclet-xdoclet-module-1.2b4.jar
xdoclet-xjavadoc-1.0.jar
plugins/
maven-xdoclet-plugin-1.2b4.jar
maven-xdoclet-plugin-1.2b4/...

I have defined a preGoal xdoclet:ejbdoclet in maven.xml


If I run this with just the following dependencies
dependency
idxdoclet/id
version1.2b4/version
/dependency
dependency
idxdoclet+ejb-module/id
version1.2b4/version
/dependency
dependency
idj2ee/id
version1.3.1/version
/dependency

the ejbdoclet task runs fine, creating the ejb-jar.xml and required
interfaces.


However if I add the necessary dependencies (from xdoclet website
description) to run the JBoss part

dependency
idxdoclet+jboss-module/id
version1.2b4/version
/dependency
dependency
idxdoclet+jmx-module/id
version1.2b4/version
/dependency

maven just skips past the preGoal doing nothing (not even the
ejb-jar.xml/interfaces part).


Anyone used xdoclet to generate JBoss descriptors with the Maven plugin?


TIA
-- 
Andy

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Re: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation

2003-07-13 Thread Aaron Robinson
Andy,

Where did you find the J2EE maven articles? I'm very interested in seeing 
how J2EE and maven work together and have the same project granularity 
issues as you. Perhaps we can help each other.

Aaron


From: Andy Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
Date: 12 Jul 2003 21:47:25 +0100
I have a J2EE project, and currently have things under one Maven
project. I have been building with Ant, but want to swap to Maven for
more than just project management and site generation. Reading of
various articles suggests that I split the current project as follows
Top level project - depends on JAR, WAR, builds EAR
Child bean project- builds JAR
Child web-app project - depends on JAR, builds WAR
So I set up project.xml for each, and I already have template
project.xml files set up.
For a normal project, I get web site docs with a navigation section
Project Documentation.
What would I get for the resultant project by splitting into the above
hierarchy ? Would there be 3 sections of 'Project Documentation' for
beans, web-app, and overall ? Or would I have to put up 3 web sites and
make my own links between them ?


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RE: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation

2003-07-13 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Aaron,

I have presented a talk at TheServerSide Symposium about building J2EE
applications with Maven. You can find the slides there:

http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/vmassol/archives/80.html

Thanks
-Vincent

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 Subject: Re: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
 
 Andy,
 
 Where did you find the J2EE maven articles? I'm very interested in
seeing
 how J2EE and maven work together and have the same project granularity
 issues as you. Perhaps we can help each other.
 
 Aaron
 
 
 From: Andy Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
 Date: 12 Jul 2003 21:47:25 +0100
 
 I have a J2EE project, and currently have things under one Maven
 project. I have been building with Ant, but want to swap to Maven for
 more than just project management and site generation. Reading of
 various articles suggests that I split the current project as follows
 
 Top level project - depends on JAR, WAR, builds EAR
 Child bean project- builds JAR
 Child web-app project - depends on JAR, builds WAR
 
 So I set up project.xml for each, and I already have template
 project.xml files set up.
 
 
 For a normal project, I get web site docs with a navigation section
 Project Documentation.
 What would I get for the resultant project by splitting into the
above
 hierarchy ? Would there be 3 sections of 'Project Documentation' for
 beans, web-app, and overall ? Or would I have to put up 3 web sites
and
 make my own links between them ?
 
 
 
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Re: Keeping your test source code in a separate, but parallel source tree

2003-07-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 08:02 PM, Dave Ford wrote:

The advantage I see is that you get to have test code that has
package-level access
Actually, you get that by placing them in the same directory also. So 
that's
not really an advantage.

and because it's in a separate tree, it's easy to
build binaries that don't include all the test code...
Obviously, this is easily accomplished by tools such as Ant or Maven by
simply excluding *Test
That assumes that your test code is so simple that everything fits a 
pattern like that.  If so, yes, your are right.  But when there's other 
code that isn't *Test, then it helps to be able to have a separate 
tree

geir

So, back to my question. Why is this a best practice? Maybe it's a 
common
practices, possibly a standard practiced, but no one has yet convinced 
me
it's best practice.

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Smart Soft - The Developer Training Company
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RE: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation

2003-07-13 Thread Aaron Robinson
Vincent,

FYI, the link appears to be down: -

The requested URL /pdf/Unit_Testing_J2EE_V1.1.pdf was not found on this 
server

Cheers
Aaron


From: Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:28:40 +0200
Hi Aaron,

I have presented a talk at TheServerSide Symposium about building J2EE
applications with Maven. You can find the slides there:
http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/vmassol/archives/80.html

Thanks
-Vincent
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 From: Aaron Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2003 12:04
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation

 Andy,

 Where did you find the J2EE maven articles? I'm very interested in
seeing
 how J2EE and maven work together and have the same project granularity
 issues as you. Perhaps we can help each other.

 Aaron


 From: Andy Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
 Date: 12 Jul 2003 21:47:25 +0100
 
 I have a J2EE project, and currently have things under one Maven
 project. I have been building with Ant, but want to swap to Maven for
 more than just project management and site generation. Reading of
 various articles suggests that I split the current project as follows
 
 Top level project - depends on JAR, WAR, builds EAR
 Child bean project- builds JAR
 Child web-app project - depends on JAR, builds WAR
 
 So I set up project.xml for each, and I already have template
 project.xml files set up.
 
 
 For a normal project, I get web site docs with a navigation section
 Project Documentation.
 What would I get for the resultant project by splitting into the
above
 hierarchy ? Would there be 3 sections of 'Project Documentation' for
 beans, web-app, and overall ? Or would I have to put up 3 web sites
and
 make my own links between them ?
 
 
 
 Thx
 --
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RE: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation

2003-07-13 Thread Vincent Massol
Arg! You're right, we are internationalizing our web site and the
webmaster has mixed up things. You can find them here:

http://www.pivolis.com/fr/pdf/J2EE_projects_Maven_V1.1.pdf

Sorry about that. I've asked him to restore the old link.

-Vincent 

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 Vincent,
 
 FYI, the link appears to be down: -
 
 The requested URL /pdf/Unit_Testing_J2EE_V1.1.pdf was not found on
this
 server
 
 Cheers
 Aaron
 
 
 
 From: Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:28:40 +0200
 
 Hi Aaron,
 
 I have presented a talk at TheServerSide Symposium about building
J2EE
 applications with Maven. You can find the slides there:
 
 http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/vmassol/archives/80.html
 
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Aaron Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 13 July 2003 12:04
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
  
   Andy,
  
   Where did you find the J2EE maven articles? I'm very interested in
 seeing
   how J2EE and maven work together and have the same project
granularity
   issues as you. Perhaps we can help each other.
  
   Aaron
  
  
   From: Andy Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation
   Date: 12 Jul 2003 21:47:25 +0100
   
   I have a J2EE project, and currently have things under one Maven
   project. I have been building with Ant, but want to swap to Maven
for
   more than just project management and site generation. Reading of
   various articles suggests that I split the current project as
follows
   
   Top level project - depends on JAR, WAR, builds EAR
   Child bean project- builds JAR
   Child web-app project - depends on JAR, builds WAR
   
   So I set up project.xml for each, and I already have template
   project.xml files set up.
   
   
   For a normal project, I get web site docs with a navigation
section
   Project Documentation.
   What would I get for the resultant project by splitting into the
 above
   hierarchy ? Would there be 3 sections of 'Project Documentation'
for
   beans, web-app, and overall ? Or would I have to put up 3 web
sites
 and
   make my own links between them ?
   
   
   
   Thx
   --
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Re: J2EE project : EAR/WAR/JAR - web site generation

2003-07-13 Thread Ben Walding
I've slapped up a page on the wiki for this

http://wiki.codehaus.org/maven/OtherMavenArticles#preview

(Yes I realise this duplicates a static xdoc page we have, but it's all 
part of my master plan!)

Andy Jefferson wrote:

On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 11:04, Aaron Robinson wrote:
 

Andy,

Where did you find the J2EE maven articles? I'm very interested in seeing 
how J2EE and maven work together and have the same project granularity 
issues as you. Perhaps we can help each other.
   

Hi Aaron,

the docs I've been looking at are

Incorporation of XDoclet
http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net/maven-plugin.html
IBM review of Maven and implementation for J2EE
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-maven/


 



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Re: Keeping your test source code in a separate, but parallelsourcetree

2003-07-13 Thread Mark R. Diggory
Thanks Gilles,

Its good to know that this is configurable, I'm working on another 
project where we're trying to get Maven working but cannot yet 
restructure the cvs to meet assumed Maven best practices without 
breaking the old build.

I'd caution on the use of default settings as a rule for what Maven 
encourages/discourages. Developers are always going to have varying 
requirements. Forcing them into a box will only reduce your user base in 
the long run. The current defaults are great if your starting a new 
project, they are far from adequate when attempting to Mavenize an 
existing project. The Maven team should avoid using defaults as some 
sort of inflexible standard.

Note: Much of this argument could be easily avoided if the core maven 
properties and capabilities were clearly documented somewhere. Somehow 
this documentation is lacking as maven itself is not in the pluggins 
documentation and such properties are documented nowhere.

-Mark Diggory

Gilles Dodinet wrote:
Dave, brendan,

Just a quick note about this. it seems that maven actually does allow to 
keep all main and test sources under one dir .
just make sourceDirectory and unitTestSourceDirectory point to the same 
dir, then your test will be run.
About the artifact generation, when building jar, you just can  exclude 
your test files files using ${maven.jar.excludes}.
ive just tried it  with a dummy example and it seems to work.

its not that im using this layout (i have parallel source trees), so it 
might eventually require additional efforts for other artifacts generation.

So i think that maven doesnot strictly forbids the all-in-one-dir 
practice, it s more that it just discourages it. tho perhaps im missing 
something.

-- gd

Jason van Zyl wrote:

On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 20:14, Bob Cumbers wrote:
 

Never going to happen and I make no apologies for that.

It's nice to see that you take user input so graciously
  


Give me a break.

When I think something is categorically a bad practice then the dialog
is cut short. I am not trying to win any popularity contests and I'm
don't care if every single user is happy. It's just not possible. But I
have taken loads of suggestions for Maven and they have found there way
into Maven. But there are several issues like multiple sources
directories, mixing test and application code and several other issues
which I will not change my mind on.
Maven is but one solution for building your project. I encourage anyone
not happy with it to go find something else.
I also take into consideration the number of downloads in constrast with
the number of people who complain about certain limitations. I certainly
don't think mixing test/application code is a good idea but I think
given that I've only seen a few people want this out of the thousands
that have downloaded Maven is  a good indicator that most users think
it's not a very good idea. I'm not a politician, I could care less if
all users like me because most users are selfish and only consider their
own methods and own desires when requesting features while generally
never considering larger issues. As always there are the valued and
treasured exceptions by users who have genuinely taken into
consideration all users and the larger issues. Just because a user makes
a suggestion doesn't mean it's a good one. If you're looking for grace
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Re: Keeping your test source code in a separate, but parallelsourcetree

2003-07-13 Thread Mark R. Diggory
This is all but one opinion on the subject. IMHO, as this is a user list 
and not a developer list, I'd advise that moderation should not be so 
restrictive when the subject matter is not at all off topic.

I also think that comparing total downloads against any discussion is 
a very poor and biased measure of user needs/requirements. If you go 
around cutting discussions short, then your biasing such a measure in 
favor of your own personal opinion and as such it does not reflect the 
true opinion of your userbase.

-Mark Diggory
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/math/index.html
Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 20:14, Bob Cumbers wrote:

Never going to happen and I make no apologies for that.
It's nice to see that you take user input so graciously


Give me a break.

When I think something is categorically a bad practice then the dialog
is cut short. I am not trying to win any popularity contests and I'm
don't care if every single user is happy. It's just not possible. But I
have taken loads of suggestions for Maven and they have found there way
into Maven. But there are several issues like multiple sources
directories, mixing test and application code and several other issues
which I will not change my mind on. 

Maven is but one solution for building your project. I encourage anyone
not happy with it to go find something else. 

I also take into consideration the number of downloads in constrast with
the number of people who complain about certain limitations. I certainly
don't think mixing test/application code is a good idea but I think
given that I've only seen a few people want this out of the thousands
that have downloaded Maven is  a good indicator that most users think
it's not a very good idea. I'm not a politician, I could care less if
all users like me because most users are selfish and only consider their
own methods and own desires when requesting features while generally
never considering larger issues. As always there are the valued and
treasured exceptions by users who have genuinely taken into
consideration all users and the larger issues. Just because a user makes
a suggestion doesn't mean it's a good one. If you're looking for grace
go somewhere else.

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RE: Jar:deploy and ssh password

2003-07-13 Thread Maximilian A. Ott
Thanks. I thought I need to do something else. It turns out that my
public web server only supports an old version of ssh with some strange
additional restrictions. Confused the heck out of me. On top of it, I'm
an old unix guy chained to a windows box (which confuses me even more).

-max


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 Subject: Re: Jar:deploy and ssh password
 
 
 Under Linux, the destination host of the ssh
 connection must include an authorized_keys file for
 connections that do not require an interactive
 password be entered.  See
 http://www.openssh.org/manual.html.  The link for ssh
 discuss use of the authorized_keys file.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --- Maximilian A. Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  When I run jar:deploy it gets to:
  
  jar:jar:
  
  [echo]
  Moving target/sx.util-1.1.3.jar to the .
  
  And hangs.
  
  From looking at the plug-in code (and a few error
  messages due to
  incorrect property settings) I know it calls ssh
  at this stage. Now,
  if I run the specific command from the shell it
  prompts me for the
  password. This is obviously suppressed here. How can
  I make that work
  (Windows, ssh2).
  
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Re: Keeping your test source code in a separate,but parallelsource tree

2003-07-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 14:43, Mark R. Diggory wrote:
 Thanks Gilles,
 
 Its good to know that this is configurable, I'm working on another 
 project where we're trying to get Maven working but cannot yet 
 restructure the cvs to meet assumed Maven best practices without 
 breaking the old build.
 
 I'd caution on the use of default settings as a rule for what Maven 
 encourages/discourages. Developers are always going to have varying 
 requirements. 

That will always be true but why do we as developers demand consistent
APIs for everything we use and then ignore this rule when constructing
build systems? What is good about having N different ways a build system
works? And if you disagree you have plenty of tools to choose from.

 Forcing them into a box will only reduce your user base in 
 the long run. 

Much to my dismay this has not been the case. And the target for me has
always been newer users because anyone with an existing build has always
tried to demand to have their way incorporated as an option in Maven. It
has always been the intent to strive for consistency and coherence,
sometimes at the cost of other things. That was a conscious decision.

 The current defaults are great if your starting a new 
 project, they are far from adequate when attempting to Mavenize an 
 existing project. 

There has never been an attempt to accommodate the myriad ways of doing
things. Maven is not Ant. 

 The Maven team should avoid using defaults as some 
 sort of inflexible standard.

The whole point of Maven is to provide some uniformity and coherence
from the ground up. Lots of people don't like the way Maven works and
that's perfectly fine.

 -- 
 jvz.
 
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Re: xdoclet plugin : Jboss

2003-07-13 Thread Andy Jefferson
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 16:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Make sure you include the xjavadoc dependency.  I
 have:
artifactIdcommons-jelly-tags-log/artifactId
version20030211.142821/version

artifactIdcommons-jelly-tags-interaction/artifactId
versionSNAPSHOT/version

artifactIdxdoclet/artifactId
version1.2b4/version
  
artifactIdxdoclet-xdoclet-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version

artifactIdxjavadoc/artifactId
version1.0/version

artifactIdxdoclet-jdo-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version

artifactIdxdoclet-ejb-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version

artifactIdxdoclet-web-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version

artifactIdxdoclet-jboss-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version

artifactIdxdoclet-apache-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version

artifactIdxdoclet-jmx-module/artifactId
version1.2b4/version


Hi,

I've tried using all of the above (except the commons-jelly ones, and
the xdoclet-jdo, xdoclet-apache - since I'm not using any of those), and
I still get no success.

If I comment out just the xdoclet-jboss-module, it runs through xdoclet
fine (for the ejb tags). If I uncomment it, I get


java:compile:
[mkdir] Created dir: /home/andy/work/WebShop/target/xdoclet
xdoclet:ejbdoclet:

[javac] Since fork is true, ignoring compiler setting.
[javac] Compiling 80 source files to
/home/andy/work/WebShop/target/classes
[javac] Since fork is true, ignoring compiler setting.


and it ignores the work its supposed to do in ejbdoclet (!).


-- 
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Re: xdoclet plugin : Jboss

2003-07-13 Thread Andy Jefferson
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 21:30, Andy Jefferson wrote:

 I've tried using all of the above (except the commons-jelly ones, and
 the xdoclet-jdo, xdoclet-apache - since I'm not using any of those), and
 I still get no success.

It appears that I lied :-) ... turns out that I was missing the
xdoclet-web-module and without that it doesn't bother giving an error or
anything. Include it and it works fine !


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Re: How does one register a plug-in?

2003-07-13 Thread Ben Walding
Make sure you delete the *.cache files.

Dave Ford wrote:

I just copied one the plug-ins from the plug-ins folder and used it to
create my own plug-in. when I go to run it, Maven tells me that the plug-in
does not exist in this project. Do I have to register the plug-in somewhere?
Dave Ford
Smart Soft - The Developer Training Company
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Re: Keeping your test source code in a separate,but parallelsource tree

2003-07-13 Thread Dave Ford
 in the long run
 it will be better to sacrifice some 
 variability for a standard, even if
 some of the standard is ad hoc.

That's a good point Jason.

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2003-07-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
Howdy,

A few people have tried the test installers so I'll let it sit over
night and release it tomorrow. If anyone happens to want to try the
installers they are here:

http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl

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jvz.

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