Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-26 Thread Brian Fox
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26 May 2010 01:02, leonfranzen leon_fran...@tvworks.com wrote:


 For now, my plan is to :
 1. Build the DependencyNode tree with the maven DependencyTreeBuilder for
 the top-level POM
 2. Traverse the tree and find each war Node
 3. Serialize the node tree to disk
 4. Separately run the dependency node serializer on each of the war
 projects
 found in step 2.
 5. Deserialize all of the separate trees and assemble an aggregate
 dependency node tree.

 I'll wait to see if I'm missing some sort of filter configuration that's
 simply chucking out war dependency results, but I have a suspicion that
 Maven just doesn't resolve transitive war dependencies and that it would


 There is a components.xml that defines the war packaging.  in that
 components.xml it says that war is not a classpath dependency type (which is
 correct because war files usually contain their dependencies), so the net
 result is that when you build the classpath from the list of dependencies,
 the transitive deps of war files will be ignored by design. But AFAIK
 dependency:tree will show those deps


It won't because it's relying on the core resolution to build the
tree. Your paragraph above is otherwise exactly on the money. Maven is
told not to resolve war dependencies transitively.


 take a lot of work to make it do so.

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-26 Thread Justin Edelson
On 5/26/10 9:47 AM, Brian Fox wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26 May 2010 01:02, leonfranzen leon_fran...@tvworks.com wrote:


 For now, my plan is to :
 1. Build the DependencyNode tree with the maven DependencyTreeBuilder for
 the top-level POM
 2. Traverse the tree and find each war Node
 3. Serialize the node tree to disk
 4. Separately run the dependency node serializer on each of the war
 projects
 found in step 2.
 5. Deserialize all of the separate trees and assemble an aggregate
 dependency node tree.

 I'll wait to see if I'm missing some sort of filter configuration that's
 simply chucking out war dependency results, but I have a suspicion that
 Maven just doesn't resolve transitive war dependencies and that it would


 There is a components.xml that defines the war packaging.  in that
 components.xml it says that war is not a classpath dependency type (which is
 correct because war files usually contain their dependencies), so the net
 result is that when you build the classpath from the list of dependencies,
 the transitive deps of war files will be ignored by design. But AFAIK
 dependency:tree will show those deps

 
 It won't because it's relying on the core resolution to build the
 tree. Your paragraph above is otherwise exactly on the money. Maven is
 told not to resolve war dependencies transitively.
So theoretically, couldn't the OP crack open the uber jar, modify
components.xml, repackage it, and then run dependency:tree?

To be clear... any support email to the mailing list that begins I
created my own uber jar by modifying components.xml is probably not
going to get a lot of (helpful) feedback.

Justin

 

 take a lot of work to make it do so.

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-26 Thread Brian Fox
In theory yes but then be prepared for unexpected results.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Justin Edelson justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5/26/10 9:47 AM, Brian Fox wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26 May 2010 01:02, leonfranzen leon_fran...@tvworks.com wrote:


 For now, my plan is to :
 1. Build the DependencyNode tree with the maven DependencyTreeBuilder for
 the top-level POM
 2. Traverse the tree and find each war Node
 3. Serialize the node tree to disk
 4. Separately run the dependency node serializer on each of the war
 projects
 found in step 2.
 5. Deserialize all of the separate trees and assemble an aggregate
 dependency node tree.

 I'll wait to see if I'm missing some sort of filter configuration that's
 simply chucking out war dependency results, but I have a suspicion that
 Maven just doesn't resolve transitive war dependencies and that it would


 There is a components.xml that defines the war packaging.  in that
 components.xml it says that war is not a classpath dependency type (which is
 correct because war files usually contain their dependencies), so the net
 result is that when you build the classpath from the list of dependencies,
 the transitive deps of war files will be ignored by design. But AFAIK
 dependency:tree will show those deps


 It won't because it's relying on the core resolution to build the
 tree. Your paragraph above is otherwise exactly on the money. Maven is
 told not to resolve war dependencies transitively.
 So theoretically, couldn't the OP crack open the uber jar, modify
 components.xml, repackage it, and then run dependency:tree?

 To be clear... any support email to the mailing list that begins I
 created my own uber jar by modifying components.xml is probably not
 going to get a lot of (helpful) feedback.

 Justin



 take a lot of work to make it do so.

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-26 Thread Justin Edelson
Just trying to close the thread...

1) Yes, transitive dependencies of a war are ignored
2) Yes, this is on purpose
3) No, this isn't going to change
4) You can try fiddling with components.xml, but other stuff might break
(see #2 above)

On 5/26/10 10:02 AM, Brian Fox wrote:
 In theory yes but then be prepared for unexpected results.
 
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Justin Edelson justinedel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 5/26/10 9:47 AM, Brian Fox wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26 May 2010 01:02, leonfranzen leon_fran...@tvworks.com wrote:


 For now, my plan is to :
 1. Build the DependencyNode tree with the maven DependencyTreeBuilder for
 the top-level POM
 2. Traverse the tree and find each war Node
 3. Serialize the node tree to disk
 4. Separately run the dependency node serializer on each of the war
 projects
 found in step 2.
 5. Deserialize all of the separate trees and assemble an aggregate
 dependency node tree.

 I'll wait to see if I'm missing some sort of filter configuration that's
 simply chucking out war dependency results, but I have a suspicion that
 Maven just doesn't resolve transitive war dependencies and that it would


 There is a components.xml that defines the war packaging.  in that
 components.xml it says that war is not a classpath dependency type (which 
 is
 correct because war files usually contain their dependencies), so the net
 result is that when you build the classpath from the list of dependencies,
 the transitive deps of war files will be ignored by design. But AFAIK
 dependency:tree will show those deps


 It won't because it's relying on the core resolution to build the
 tree. Your paragraph above is otherwise exactly on the money. Maven is
 told not to resolve war dependencies transitively.
 So theoretically, couldn't the OP crack open the uber jar, modify
 components.xml, repackage it, and then run dependency:tree?

 To be clear... any support email to the mailing list that begins I
 created my own uber jar by modifying components.xml is probably not
 going to get a lot of (helpful) feedback.

 Justin



 take a lot of work to make it do so.

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-26 Thread Wayne Fay
 1) Yes, transitive dependencies of a war are ignored
 2) Yes, this is on purpose
 3) No, this isn't going to change
 4) You can try fiddling with components.xml, but other stuff might break
 (see #2 above)

This final analysis is why I originally suggested simply changing
the War packaging to Jar for purposes of a one-time dependency
analysis... but did not realize there were a lot of Wars that needed
to be analyzed.

For relatively smaller projects involving fewer Wars, this can be a
reasonable solution, especially if this is not an analysis you will be
performing on a regular basis.

Wayne

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-26 Thread Jörg Schaible
Wayne Fay wrote:

 1) Yes, transitive dependencies of a war are ignored
 2) Yes, this is on purpose
 3) No, this isn't going to change
 4) You can try fiddling with components.xml, but other stuff might break
 (see #2 above)
 
 This final analysis is why I originally suggested simply changing
 the War packaging to Jar for purposes of a one-time dependency
 analysis... but did not realize there were a lot of Wars that needed
 to be analyzed.
 
 For relatively smaller projects involving fewer Wars, this can be a
 reasonable solution, especially if this is not an analysis you will be
 performing on a regular basis.

Actually we build all our wars with packaging type jar and use the war-
plugin with an explicit execution step to produce the war as attached 
artifact. That way we can even in overlay scenarios inherit the original 
dependencies and simply exclude the jars form the overleyed wars.

- Jörg


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Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-25 Thread leonfranzen

I'm trying to perform an analysis of the entire dependency tree for a large
set of projects with deep transitive dependencies.  Some of the dependencies
at various levels are war type projects.  The dependency plugin appears to
stop at war projects as if they have no dependencies of their own.  Does
anyone have suggestions as to how I can build a full dependency tree,
including war dependencies and their transitive dependencies?

I'm not opposed to building a custom plugin, but advice regarding how it
should be done would be very welcome.

Thanks.
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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-25 Thread Wayne Fay
 at various levels are war type projects.  The dependency plugin appears to
 stop at war projects as if they have no dependencies of their own.  Does
 anyone have suggestions as to how I can build a full dependency tree,

Could you temporarily change the packaging to jar for those war
projects, just to get past the issue so you could complete your
analysis, and then change them back?

Wayne

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-25 Thread leonfranzen

I don't think I can do that easily since that would require rebuilding and
redeploying the modified projects as the new packaging type.  Maybe I could
fetch all of the dependency POMs with something like go-offline and modify
them in my local repository?  Yuck.  I hope there is a nicer way, but I'll
consider this if there are no alternatives.

I'm thinking that modifying the existing dependency plugin tree builder code
might be a better solution.


Wayne Fay wrote:
 
 at various levels are war type projects.  The dependency plugin appears
 to
 stop at war projects as if they have no dependencies of their own.  Does
 anyone have suggestions as to how I can build a full dependency tree,
 
 Could you temporarily change the packaging to jar for those war
 projects, just to get past the issue so you could complete your
 analysis, and then change them back?
 
 Wayne
 
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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-25 Thread leonfranzen

For now, my plan is to :
1. Build the DependencyNode tree with the maven DependencyTreeBuilder for
the top-level POM
2. Traverse the tree and find each war Node
3. Serialize the node tree to disk
4. Separately run the dependency node serializer on each of the war projects
found in step 2.
5. Deserialize all of the separate trees and assemble an aggregate
dependency node tree.

I'll wait to see if I'm missing some sort of filter configuration that's
simply chucking out war dependency results, but I have a suspicion that
Maven just doesn't resolve transitive war dependencies and that it would
take a lot of work to make it do so.

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Re: Dependency analysis through wars

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 26 May 2010 01:02, leonfranzen leon_fran...@tvworks.com wrote:


 For now, my plan is to :
 1. Build the DependencyNode tree with the maven DependencyTreeBuilder for
 the top-level POM
 2. Traverse the tree and find each war Node
 3. Serialize the node tree to disk
 4. Separately run the dependency node serializer on each of the war
 projects
 found in step 2.
 5. Deserialize all of the separate trees and assemble an aggregate
 dependency node tree.

 I'll wait to see if I'm missing some sort of filter configuration that's
 simply chucking out war dependency results, but I have a suspicion that
 Maven just doesn't resolve transitive war dependencies and that it would


There is a components.xml that defines the war packaging.  in that
components.xml it says that war is not a classpath dependency type (which is
correct because war files usually contain their dependencies), so the net
result is that when you build the classpath from the list of dependencies,
the transitive deps of war files will be ignored by design. But AFAIK
dependency:tree will show those deps


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