Maven Interships
A bit off-topic, but has the Camel team considered using interns for some of its project-work? In a recent Adam Bien podcast interview... Robert Scholte. mentioned that there were about 10 contributors currently pretty active on Maven, and that none was paid/full-time. It was all voluntary work. Meanwhile, probably over 50% of the worlds Java projects use Maven. Sounds like the team could use some help. Often, it takes too much effort to bring a student/intern up to speed; but, a large and well-known project like Camel may be able to attract students from really good universities, who have already done useful coursework. To be fair, one would need to give such students some interesting work, and work that you really do want done. Yet, to be safe one could try to find things that are less "core" and won't "break everything" if done wrong. For coordination, one might even be able to find a Computer Science professor who is interested enough that he can do some of the mentoring role. With the right professor pushing for it, the University may even grant a small stipend. thoughts?
Re: Maven Interships
Am 2019-02-16 um 13:17 schrieb Darius Cooper: A bit off-topic, but has the Camel team considered using interns for some of its project-work? In a recent Adam Bien podcast interview... Robert Scholte. mentioned that there were about 10 contributors currently pretty active on Maven, and that none was paid/full-time. It was all voluntary work. Meanwhile, probably over 50% of the worlds Java projects use Maven. Sounds like the team could use some help. This is soo true...my spare time horribly degraded over the years... Often, it takes too much effort to bring a student/intern up to speed; but, a large and well-known project like Camel may be able to attract students from really good universities, who have already done useful coursework. To be fair, one would need to give such students some interesting work, and work that you really do want done. Yet, to be safe one could try to find things that are less "core" and won't "break everything" if done wrong. Are you talking about possible open tickets in JIRA? Many have been open for years...aren't they good enough for starters? I don't think we can have one person to work on a single issue for months. At least, I can't recall any which requires so much time. For coordination, one might even be able to find a Computer Science professor who is interested enough that he can do some of the mentoring role. With the right professor pushing for it, the University may even grant a small stipend. That'll be great. Regards, Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
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Hi all, I spoke with Karl-Heinz about this topic and suggested to support the project by finding sponsors. Im still willing to help to find sponsors for Maven's development. I also tried to provide patches for the Versions Maven Plugin. Simply to start to contribute. But it is even difficult to get them applied. Therefore I stopped as even my time is limited and I can't continuously ping the people. Just my 2c. Oliver Am 16.02.19 um 14:15 schrieb Michael Osipov: Am 2019-02-16 um 13:17 schrieb Darius Cooper: A bit off-topic, but has the Camel team considered using interns for some of its project-work? In a recent Adam Bien podcast interview... Robert Scholte. mentioned that there were about 10 contributors currently pretty active on Maven, and that none was paid/full-time. It was all voluntary work. Meanwhile, probably over 50% of the worlds Java projects use Maven. Sounds like the team could use some help. This is soo true...my spare time horribly degraded over the years... -- N Oliver B. Fischer A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany P +49 30 44793251 M +49 178 7903538 E o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net S oliver.b.fischer J oliver.b.fisc...@jabber.org X http://xing.to/obf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Maven Interships
Am 2019-02-16 um 19:33 schrieb Oliver B. Fischer: Hi all, I spoke with Karl-Heinz about this topic and suggested to support the project by finding sponsors. Im still willing to help to find sponsors for Maven's development. I also tried to provide patches for the Versions Maven Plugin. Simply to start to contribute. But it is even difficult to get them applied. Therefore I stopped as even my time is limited and I can't continuously ping the people. So is the committer's time. I understand the frustration. I'd love to see one, even halftime, paid dev for us. The ecosystem is too big, too many use it, but too few work on. Michael Am 16.02.19 um 14:15 schrieb Michael Osipov: Am 2019-02-16 um 13:17 schrieb Darius Cooper: A bit off-topic, but has the Camel team considered using interns for some of its project-work? In a recent Adam Bien podcast interview... Robert Scholte. mentioned that there were about 10 contributors currently pretty active on Maven, and that none was paid/full-time. It was all voluntary work. Meanwhile, probably over 50% of the worlds Java projects use Maven. Sounds like the team could use some help. This is soo true...my spare time horribly degraded over the years... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Maven Interships
A couple of additional points... 1. It's nice to mark some JIRAs as simple ones for novices to pick up, but I think such JIRAs aren't motivating enough. If there was a small "project" of sort, perhaps (only perhaps) one might be able to motivate participation around that. 2. I understand that the Apache Camel project is going to try Google Summer of Code 2019, where student. It requires someone mentor a student, so that could take quite a time-commitment... but, possibly someone who might not want to spend time doing more Maven JIRAs might think it fun to mentor a student who would fix them. Just a thought. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Maven Interships
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 01:50:14 +0100, dariuscoo...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of additional points... 1. It's nice to mark some JIRAs as simple ones for novices to pick up, but I think such JIRAs aren't motivating enough. If there was a small "project" of sort, perhaps (only perhaps) one might be able to motivate participation around that. We started last year with up-for-grabs, exactly with this in mind: https://s.apache.org/up-for-grabs_maven https://up-for-grabs.net/#/tags/maven thanks, Robert 2. I understand that the Apache Camel project is going to try Google Summer of Code 2019, where student. It requires someone mentor a student, so that could take quite a time-commitment... but, possibly someone who might not want to spend time doing more Maven JIRAs might think it fun to mentor a student who would fix them. Just a thought. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
