RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
It all depends on what you want to vary. We've set up our pages to take the title from the tiles definition, not the other way around. That's because some of our pages are re-used by different tiles (e.g., Adding a customer name and adding a supplier name use the same JSP but in different contexts), and we want them to have different titles when used within different tiles. Also, remember that you can have tiles that extend other tiles, in case you have an entire set of pages that have common elements. And you can define variables in tiles (e.g., title) that can be referenced within the JSP itself (if you give them request scope). - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:03 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template This is the part I want to avoid if at all possible. I don't want to have to declare this in the xml file for every jsp page. So if you have two more pages you need This is very repetitive and you will end up with a giant def file if you have a lot of pages and I don't see why you need it. How hard is it to do something like this: ...controls and content for add_user.jsp... The title, header, and footer would come from the default. You would set the title and body in the jsp page. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:20 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I don't know what you mean by a "bunch of xml files." We have a tiles-def.xml file that contains the tiles definitions, plus a layout jsp used by the tiles definitions. For example, a tiles-def.xml file could contain the following entries: where myLayout.jsp has the following entries (typically with a lot of formatting to make the menu, body, and footer fit in where you want them): ... ... ... ... ... Then your home.jsp file is a regular JSF file that fits into the layout specified above. - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:33 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I've used struts template tags a little. I've just used tiles on a new struts project recently. Don't know if I did it the "correct" way both times but it works without a bunch of xml definitions files. The main problem with tiles in JSF is that it is writing the content to my tables out before my tables are written. Well it says to do a f:verbatim or h:outputText. But I don't want to do that every time I want to write out text or HTML text. Seems like extra effort that is not needed. Also I didn't want to write a new page.tiles xml definition for every JSP page. Also I find it very html designer unfriendly. I like the facelets approach but I would kind of like to stick with an Apache product if Clay in Shale would do the same thing with about the same amount of work. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). - Brendan -Original Message----- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template So
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
This is the part I want to avoid if at all possible. I don't want to have to declare this in the xml file for every jsp page. So if you have two more pages you need This is very repetitive and you will end up with a giant def file if you have a lot of pages and I don't see why you need it. How hard is it to do something like this: ...controls and content for add_user.jsp... The title, header, and footer would come from the default. You would set the title and body in the jsp page. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:20 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I don't know what you mean by a "bunch of xml files." We have a tiles-def.xml file that contains the tiles definitions, plus a layout jsp used by the tiles definitions. For example, a tiles-def.xml file could contain the following entries: where myLayout.jsp has the following entries (typically with a lot of formatting to make the menu, body, and footer fit in where you want them): ... ... ... ... ... Then your home.jsp file is a regular JSF file that fits into the layout specified above. - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:33 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I've used struts template tags a little. I've just used tiles on a new struts project recently. Don't know if I did it the "correct" way both times but it works without a bunch of xml definitions files. The main problem with tiles in JSF is that it is writing the content to my tables out before my tables are written. Well it says to do a f:verbatim or h:outputText. But I don't want to do that every time I want to write out text or HTML text. Seems like extra effort that is not needed. Also I didn't want to write a new page.tiles xml definition for every JSP page. Also I find it very html designer unfriendly. I like the facelets approach but I would kind of like to stick with an Apache product if Clay in Shale would do the same thing with about the same amount of work. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. Shawn -Original Message----- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me know. I think it was on java.net.) - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I wa
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
I don't know what you mean by a "bunch of xml files." We have a tiles-def.xml file that contains the tiles definitions, plus a layout jsp used by the tiles definitions. For example, a tiles-def.xml file could contain the following entries: where myLayout.jsp has the following entries (typically with a lot of formatting to make the menu, body, and footer fit in where you want them): ... ... ... ... ... Then your home.jsp file is a regular JSF file that fits into the layout specified above. - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:33 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I've used struts template tags a little. I've just used tiles on a new struts project recently. Don't know if I did it the "correct" way both times but it works without a bunch of xml definitions files. The main problem with tiles in JSF is that it is writing the content to my tables out before my tables are written. Well it says to do a f:verbatim or h:outputText. But I don't want to do that every time I want to write out text or HTML text. Seems like extra effort that is not needed. Also I didn't want to write a new page.tiles xml definition for every JSP page. Also I find it very html designer unfriendly. I like the facelets approach but I would kind of like to stick with an Apache product if Clay in Shale would do the same thing with about the same amount of work. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me know. I think it was on java.net.) - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message----- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redef
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
No, that's the facelets composition mechanism. Using Clay, you would need a separate HTML template for the body. This type of top-level definition works best when you use inheritance so that you can define default symbol value and only override the needed customizations. The templates can also exist in the class path "classpath*:com/acme/templates/body.html". /body.html: mock title [EMAIL PROTECTED]}> -- Original message -- From: "Garner, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can I do this? addUserPage.jsp: ... Shawn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:57 AMTo: MyFaces DiscussionSubject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template >From: "Garner, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Alright, I looked at the symbols example in the usecases example. > Thing I don't like about usecases is it tries to show ever feature and its > hard for me to tell one feature from another. Even with the clay example > there are 4 different options displayed and I can't separate them. > I think that's a common comment. Outside a creating more example, and better documentation, I'm not sure what the answer is but we can always use more help here. > I like the idea of layout.html in the symbols but I don't like the way it > uses the html body. I'm also not fond of declaring a bunch of panels and > things inside an XML file. I would rather it was in a JSP file. > > I would like to be able to use the layout.html but then be able to tie this > to a JSP View and supply the title and body content in this JSP body. > A limitation that Clay has is that you are not able to include a JSP from a Clay XML definition or HTML template. This is a reflection on the fact that the JSF/JSP tags are not designed to be mixed with other view types. However, you could use JSP as your entry point and include a Clay subview using the "clay:clay" tag. page1.jsp: or page1.jsp: Clay XML Config: http://struts.apache.org/images/struts.gif"/ > The catch is that you can not include another JSP from within the "layout.html". The JSP page would only be the page entry point. Anything included in the "layout.html" has to use clay HTML templates or XML config definitions. Originally, the JSP page entry point was the only option. This might make a nice sample applicaiton? The option that is the most like tiles is to use an XML config as the entry point. The symbols "page1.xml" and "page2.xml" usecase example shows how this works. Both definitions are found in a common XML. But, the same rule about including JSP applies here too. I've been trying to figure out how to include a JSP from a clay template but the JSP Tag is not standardized in this area. I've been thinking about trying to create a decorated view root and swap out the view root before including the jsp and then swapping it back. Most people seem interested in a non-jsp solution so I haven't put much time into this hack. > Can anybody help me piece (pun intended) this together? > Hope that helps. > Shawn Gary This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ***
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Can I do this? addUserPage.jsp: ... Shawn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:57 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template >From: "Garner, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Alright, I looked at the symbols example in the usecases example. > Thing I don't like about usecases is it tries to show ever feature and its > hard for me to tell one feature from another. Even with the clay example > there are 4 different options displayed and I can't separate them. > I think that's a common comment. Outside a creating more example, and better documentation, I'm not sure what the answer is but we can always use more help here. > I like the idea of layout.html in the symbols but I don't like the way it > uses the html body. I'm also not fond of declaring a bunch of panels and > things inside an XML file. I would rather it was in a JSP file. > > I would like to be able to use the layout.html but then be able to tie this > to a JSP View and supply the title and body content in this JSP body. > A limitation that Clay has is that you are not able to include a JSP from a Clay XML definition or HTML template. This is a reflection on the fact that the JSF/JSP tags are not designed to be mixed with other view types. However, you could use JSP as your entry point and include a Clay subview using the "clay:clay" tag. page1.jsp: or page1.jsp: Clay XML Config: http://struts.apache.org/images/struts.gif"/ > The catch is that you can not include another JSP from within the "layout.html". The JSP page would only be the page entry point. Anything included in the "layout.html" has to use clay HTML templates or XML config definitions. Originally, the JSP page entry point was the only option. This might make a nice sample applicaiton? The option that is the most like tiles is to use an XML config as the entry point. The symbols "page1.xml" and "page2.xml" usecase example shows how this works. Both definitions are found in a common XML. But, the same rule about including JSP applies here too. I've been trying to figure out how to include a JSP from a clay template but the JSP Tag is not standardized in this area. I've been thinking about trying to create a decorated view root and swap out the view root before including the jsp and then swapping it back. Most people seem interested in a non-jsp solution so I haven't put much time into this hack. > Can anybody help me piece (pun intended) this together? > Hope that helps. > Shawn Gary This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ***
Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
>From: "Mike Kienenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> In my opinion, you're better off using facelets. > > Facelets appears to be more widely-accepted than Clay. For instance, > Oracle ADF Faces supports facelets out of the box. Jenia4Faces > supports facelets. Exadel supports facelets. I don't think any of > them provide support for Clay. On the other hand, perhaps no such > support is needed -- I haven't really used Clay. My monitoring of > the mailing list leads me to believe otherwise, though. > > Facelets appears to have a much larger user base than Clay. That's > just my general opinion having monitored both Shale and Facelets since > last May. > I think we are growing. Hopefully that just means there is more opportunity to attract participants :-) > Facelets is maintained primarily by two JSF Expert Group members. > Facelets activity appears to be actively monitored by two other > high-profile JSF EG members. > It's hard to argue against that. It's easier to get a community rolling when you have several heavy weights that are actively spreading the gospel. Clay had a late start under Struts Shale. I had to hang out for 6 months before given the karma to really move it forward. At the same time, I couldn't have launched something on my own. I'm glad for the opportunity to be an apache struts committer. > Facelets fixes a number of JSF 1.1 issues by providing JSF 1.2 behavior. > > I know Gary has put a lot of work into Clay, but I think the forward > momentum is in favor of facelets. I would not be surprised to see > facelets included as part of a JSF 2.0 specification. > I wouldn't be surprised if that happened too due to the tie with the Sun RI team. I would like to be on the EG :-) The inheritance bit in Clay would introduce some challenges for tool developers. The XML requirement of facelets is more mainstream for tool support. Gary
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
>From: "Garner, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Alright, I looked at the symbols example in the usecases example. > Thing I don't like about usecases is it tries to show ever feature and its > hard for me to tell one feature from another. Even with the clay example > there are 4 different options displayed and I can't separate them. > I think that's a common comment. Outside a creating more example, and better documentation, I'm not sure what the answer is but we can always use more help here. > I like the idea of layout.html in the symbols but I don't like the way it > uses the html body. I'm also not fond of declaring a bunch of panels and > things inside an XML file. I would rather it was in a JSP file. > > I would like to be able to use the layout.html but then be able to tie this > to a JSP View and supply the title and body content in this JSP body. > A limitation that Clay has is that you are not able to include a JSP from a Clay XML definition or HTML template. This is a reflection on the fact that the JSF/JSP tags are not designed to be mixed with other view types. However, you could use JSP as your entry point and include a Clay subview using the "clay:clay" tag. page1.jsp: or page1.jsp: Clay XML Config: http://struts.apache.org/images/struts.gif"/ > The catch is that you can not include another JSP from within the "layout.html". The JSP page would only be the page entry point. Anything included in the "layout.html" has to use clay HTML templates or XML config definitions. Originally, the JSP page entry point was the only option. This might make a nice sample applicaiton? The option that is the most like tiles is to use an XML config as the entry point. The symbols "page1.xml" and "page2.xml" usecase example shows how this works. Both definitions are found in a common XML. But, the same rule about including JSP applies here too. I've been trying to figure out how to include a JSP from a clay template but the JSP Tag is not standardized in this area. I've been thinking about trying to create a decorated view root and swap out the view root before including the jsp and then swapping it back. Most people seem interested in a non-jsp solution so I haven't put much time into this hack. > Can anybody help me piece (pun intended) this together? > Hope that helps. > Shawn Gary
Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
In my opinion, you're better off using facelets. Facelets appears to be more widely-accepted than Clay. For instance, Oracle ADF Faces supports facelets out of the box. Jenia4Faces supports facelets. Exadel supports facelets. I don't think any of them provide support for Clay. On the other hand, perhaps no such support is needed -- I haven't really used Clay. My monitoring of the mailing list leads me to believe otherwise, though. Facelets appears to have a much larger user base than Clay. That's just my general opinion having monitored both Shale and Facelets since last May. Facelets is maintained primarily by two JSF Expert Group members. Facelets activity appears to be actively monitored by two other high-profile JSF EG members. Facelets fixes a number of JSF 1.1 issues by providing JSF 1.2 behavior. I know Gary has put a lot of work into Clay, but I think the forward momentum is in favor of facelets. I would not be surprised to see facelets included as part of a JSF 2.0 specification. On 2/24/06, Garner, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've used struts template tags a little. > I've just used tiles on a new struts project recently. > Don't know if I did it the "correct" way both times but it works without a > bunch of xml definitions files. > > The main problem with tiles in JSF is that it is writing the content to my > tables out before my tables are written. > > Well it says to do a f:verbatim or h:outputText. But I don't want to do > that every time I want to write out text or HTML text. Seems like extra > effort that is not needed. > > Also I didn't want to write a new page.tiles xml definition for every JSP > page. Also I find it very html designer unfriendly. > > > I like the facelets approach but I would kind of like to stick with an > Apache product if Clay in Shale would do the same thing with about the same > amount of work. > > > Shawn > -Original Message- > From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM > To: MyFaces Discussion > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds > and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives > an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer > Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." > > Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can > concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some > background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). > > - Brendan > > -Original Message- > From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM > To: 'MyFaces Discussion' > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > > Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. > > Shawn > -Original Message- > From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM > To: MyFaces Discussion > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in > fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to > create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject > gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me > know. I think it was on java.net.) > > - Brendan > > -Original Message- > From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM > To: 'MyFaces Discussion' > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > > I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine > facelets more first. > > The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no > examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. > Is there an example of this somewhere? > > > Shawn > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM > To: users@myfaces.apache.org > Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > Garner, Shawn wrote: > > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you > want > > to use the template for. > > > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that > uses > > multiple jsp pages? > > > > Seems like I should be able to ju
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
I've used struts template tags a little. I've just used tiles on a new struts project recently. Don't know if I did it the "correct" way both times but it works without a bunch of xml definitions files. The main problem with tiles in JSF is that it is writing the content to my tables out before my tables are written. Well it says to do a f:verbatim or h:outputText. But I don't want to do that every time I want to write out text or HTML text. Seems like extra effort that is not needed. Also I didn't want to write a new page.tiles xml definition for every JSP page. Also I find it very html designer unfriendly. I like the facelets approach but I would kind of like to stick with an Apache product if Clay in Shale would do the same thing with about the same amount of work. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me know. I think it was on java.net.) - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me know. I think it was on java.net.) - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. Shawn -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me know. I think it was on java.net.) - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Alright, I looked at the symbols example in the usecases example. Thing I don't like about usecases is it tries to show ever feature and its hard for me to tell one feature from another. Even with the clay example there are 4 different options displayed and I can't separate them. I like the idea of layout.html in the symbols but I don't like the way it uses the html body. I'm also not fond of declaring a bunch of panels and things inside an XML file. I would rather it was in a JSP file. I would like to be able to use the layout.html but then be able to tie this to a JSP View and supply the title and body content in this JSP body. Can anybody help me piece (pun intended) this together? Shawn -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Can you give an example of what you're trying to do that shows the issue you're encountering? - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:29 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Not speaking my language here good buddy. I'm not sure which part of the post you are talking about and I don't really see how it is applicable to my situation. Shawn From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:49 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template See http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=427&threadID=540153 on how to define a central tiles dispatch page - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:56 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want to use the template for. Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses multiple jsp pages? Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, title portion without redefining the template for every page. Shawn This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. *** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ***
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me know. I think it was on java.net.) - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Title: Message Not speaking my language here good buddy. I'm not sure which part of the post you are talking about and I don't really see how it is applicable to my situation. Shawn From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:49 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template See http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=427&threadID=540153 on how to define a central tiles dispatch page - Brendan -Original Message- From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:56 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want to use the template for. Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses multiple jsp pages? Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, title portion without redefining the template for every page. Shawn This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. *** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ***
Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
I started a facelets wiki page on facelets articles: http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Projects/FaceletsArticles Feel free to add more as you come across them. Not sure if the JSF central article is significantly different than the blog article on templating. On 2/23/06, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/23/06, Garner, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine > > facelets more first. > > > > The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no > > examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. > > Is there an example of this somewhere? > > This is an old one. > > http://hookom.blogspot.com/2005/05/facelets-templating.html > > There's probably more out there by now. >
Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
On 2/23/06, Garner, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine > facelets more first. > > The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no > examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. > Is there an example of this somewhere? This is an old one. http://hookom.blogspot.com/2005/05/facelets-templating.html There's probably more out there by now.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
https://facelets.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/dev/docbook.html#template Adam Brod Product Development Team "Garner, Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/23/2006 01:50 PM Please respond to "MyFaces Discussion" To 'MyFaces Discussion' cc Subject RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine facelets more first. The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. Is there an example of this somewhere? Shawn -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template Garner, Shawn wrote: > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want > to use the template for. > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses > multiple jsp pages? > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, > title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L. This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.
RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Title: Message See http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=427&threadID=540153 on how to define a central tiles dispatch page - Brendan -Original Message-From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:56 AMTo: 'MyFaces Discussion'Subject: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want to use the template for. Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses multiple jsp pages? Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, title portion without redefining the template for every page. Shawn This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ***
Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
Garner, Shawn wrote: I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want to use the template for. Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses multiple jsp pages? Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, title portion without redefining the template for every page. You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale Clay. L.
[JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template
I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you want to use the template for. Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that uses multiple jsp pages? Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the body, title portion without redefining the template for every page. Shawn This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ***
