Re: NetBeans Platform "Golden Path"

[Scott Palmer]

The Java Modules referred to there can simply be the modules of the JRE  - not 
your application.  I use jlink and jpackage all the time to package non-modular 
applications. 

I just have to select the Java modules of the JDK that the application needs.  
Since my application is non-modular, I can’t just point jlink at the app 
modules and have it figured out for me.  

Scott

> On Jul 8, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Emma Atkinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> "The jlink tool links a set of modules, along with their transitive 
> dependencies, to create a custom runtime image."
> 
> JPMS is necessary if you want to use jlink, according to the oracle manual. 
> It is the reason I am migrating my old programs to JPMS as and when the mood 
> takes me. 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, 13:50 Scott Palmer,  wrote:
>> Use of jlink and jpackage does NOT require that you use JPMS.
>> 
>> I have never made a “modular” application using JPMS, but I use jpackage all 
>> the time (but I wasn’t making NetBeans platform apps). You just need to know 
>> which modules from the JDK to include in the runtime, assuming you don’t 
>> need all of them. 
>> 
>> In my projects I use a custom Gradle task to run jlink and jpackage. It 
>> might be more difficult with Maven, but it should be possible. 
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> > Additionally, although recent developments like jlink and jpackage have 
>> > made it somewhat easier to produce stand-alone application bundles that 
>> > don't require the user to first install a JRE, which is nice, it seems 
>> > that these tools sometimes require the use of JPMS modules, which can be 
>> > problematic in NetBeans (see above). 
>> 
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Re: NetBeans Platform "Golden Path"

[Emilian Bold]

I don't think the Platform is opinionated about not including a JRE,
it's just that they can't under Apache.

NetBeans used to come as a JDK bundle in the Sun Microsystems and
Oracle days. So, all the plumbing is still there and in the conf file
is just a jdkhome to set.

It was relatively easy to include a JRE for Windows and macOS.

--emi

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 10:22 PM Chris Marusich  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you very much for the thoughtful replies.  It's very helpful to
> hear about how others do things.
>
> It sounds like I am probably making my life more difficult than it needs
> to be by choosing to use JPMS modules.  Personally, I believe that as
> JPMS modules are adopted more and more by the Java ecosystem, and as
> everyone's Java version inexorably advances to Java 9 and beyond, it
> will become harder and harder to avoid dealing with JPMS modules in
> practice.  Once you start using Java 9 or later, JPMS modules are there,
> and even if you try to avoid them, you'll probably bump into some
> problems related to automatic modules or unnamed modules or similar
> eventually...  However, for now I get the impression that avoiding JPMS
> modules, if possible, is the path of least resistance in NetBeans.
> Maybe the problems I've had with the nbm-maven-plugin were because I was
> trying to explicitly make use of JPMS modules.  I'll try again, this
> time avoiding explicitly using JPMS modules if I can, and see how it
> goes.
>
> Regarding how to build a stand-alone application: without the
> convenience of jlink (because JPMS modules are definitely required, at
> least in my specific case, to use jlink; it is possible that jlink can
> work without JPMS modules in other specific circumstances, but in my
> case that is not possible), I agree the only option is to probably
> create a custom script that does the jobs.  It's good to know that I'm
> not missing something; that's about what I expected.
>
> Regarding the point about requiring a user to install Java separately, I
> think sometimes it could be appropriate, and sometimes not.  Personally,
> I usually feel that it is an unnecessary hurdle and an additional
> maintenance burden.  My users shouldn't even need to know they're
> running Java.  It seems like a small thing, but it really is a
> significant hurdle in some contexts.  I could be wrong, but it sounds
> like NetBeans Platform is pretty "opinionated" about this point, and it
> basically encourages you to require the user to install the JRE
> separately.  However, I can see it isn't too hard to bundle a JRE
> yourself with a custom script if you really want to.  I'll probably try
> to do that if I can.
>
> I appreciate all the helpful advice!
>
> --
> Chris

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Re: Fwd: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[John Lavelle]

Hi,

My apologies for not getting the video done on the HTML autocomplete
problem, unfortunately work intervened. I'll try and get it done for
Wednesday.

Best regards,
John
j...@jql.co.uk
Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk


On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 1:01 PM Bradley Willcott 
wrote:

> Hi John.
> I tried using auto-completion with HTML, and got the following screenshots:
>
> I typed: 
>
>
> I typed: [Enter]
>
>
>
> I typed: >
>
>
>
> I typed: [Enter]
>
>
>
> I see nothing wrong with this sequence.  Is your experience different?
>
> Brad.
>
> On 12/7/21 3:27 pm, John Lavelle wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm in meetings all morning. I will video my IDE this afternoon so you can
> see what happens
>
> Best regards,
> John
> j...@jql.co.uk
> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Right, exactly, that makes sense.
>>
>> Does that do the trick for you, John Lavelle?
>>
>> Hope so!
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:36 AM James Ostrowick 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, if you start typing:
>>>
>>> <
>>> >> >>
>>> It will start to show two options:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> If you hit enter at the
>>> >>
>>> Point it will select  as this is the first entry.
>>>
>>> What I’ve found to work, to stop this from happening is go into
>>> preferences / options
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> James Ostrowick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:32, Geertjan Wielenga <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have this in the HTML editor right now:
>>>
>>> >>
>>> Where must I place the cursor and where/when must I press Enter to see
>>> the problem?
>>>
>>> With the above, I need to put the cursor at the end, i.e., here:
>>>
>>> >>
>>> And then call up code completion, via Ctrl-Space, to see the code
>>> completion.
>>>
>>> What must I do from the above point to see the problem?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:27 AM James Ostrowick 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Nope, this was a Mac.
 Mac OS X 11.4
 Netbeans 12.4

 Kind Regards,
 James Ostrowick


 On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:26, Geertjan Wielenga <
 geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

 Maybe it's Windows specific?

 On Mac, trying really hard, but not able to reproduce.

 Gj

 On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:16 AM James Ostrowick 
 wrote:

> I know exactly what John is talking about.
>
> 
>
> If you hit enter at this point(in the attached image)
> It will complete the  element
>
> This happens in HTML/XHTML files.
>
> Kind Regards,
> James Ostrowick
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:13, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what you're trying to do
> is disable code completion just because it pops up when you press Enter,
> then the problem lies elsewhere.
>
> Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped to the Enter key in
> one way or another.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>
>> When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>> j...@jql.co.uk
>> Bike Farkles:
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>> JLavelle.uk  https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Every time you press Enter it pops up?

 That's strange and not something I've ever seen.

 Has that always been the case?

 Gj

 On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle 
 wrote:

> Geertjan,
>
> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages,
> not just HTML.
>
> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>
> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you
> press enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. 
> Quite
> often, if you're changing between languages, you forget to press 
> escape and
> have to delete the "suggestions"
>
> Best regards,
> John Lavelle
> j...@jql.co.uk
>
> Sent via awful Android
>
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
> 

Re: NetBeans Platform "Golden Path"

[Chris Marusich]

Hi everyone,

Thank you very much for the thoughtful replies.  It's very helpful to
hear about how others do things.

It sounds like I am probably making my life more difficult than it needs
to be by choosing to use JPMS modules.  Personally, I believe that as
JPMS modules are adopted more and more by the Java ecosystem, and as
everyone's Java version inexorably advances to Java 9 and beyond, it
will become harder and harder to avoid dealing with JPMS modules in
practice.  Once you start using Java 9 or later, JPMS modules are there,
and even if you try to avoid them, you'll probably bump into some
problems related to automatic modules or unnamed modules or similar
eventually...  However, for now I get the impression that avoiding JPMS
modules, if possible, is the path of least resistance in NetBeans.
Maybe the problems I've had with the nbm-maven-plugin were because I was
trying to explicitly make use of JPMS modules.  I'll try again, this
time avoiding explicitly using JPMS modules if I can, and see how it
goes.

Regarding how to build a stand-alone application: without the
convenience of jlink (because JPMS modules are definitely required, at
least in my specific case, to use jlink; it is possible that jlink can
work without JPMS modules in other specific circumstances, but in my
case that is not possible), I agree the only option is to probably
create a custom script that does the jobs.  It's good to know that I'm
not missing something; that's about what I expected.

Regarding the point about requiring a user to install Java separately, I
think sometimes it could be appropriate, and sometimes not.  Personally,
I usually feel that it is an unnecessary hurdle and an additional
maintenance burden.  My users shouldn't even need to know they're
running Java.  It seems like a small thing, but it really is a
significant hurdle in some contexts.  I could be wrong, but it sounds
like NetBeans Platform is pretty "opinionated" about this point, and it
basically encourages you to require the user to install the JRE
separately.  However, I can see it isn't too hard to bundle a JRE
yourself with a custom script if you really want to.  I'll probably try
to do that if I can.

I appreciate all the helpful advice!

-- 
Chris


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Re: Fwd: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[Bradley Willcott]

Hi John.
I tried using auto-completion with HTML, and got the following screenshots:

I typed: 



I typed: [Enter]



I see nothing wrong with this sequence.  Is your experience different?

Brad.

On 12/7/21 3:27 pm, John Lavelle wrote:


Hi,

I'm in meetings all morning. I will video my IDE this afternoon so you 
can see what happens


Best regards,
John
j...@jql.co.uk 
Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ 

JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk 




On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:


Right, exactly, that makes sense.

Does that do the trick for you, John Lavelle?

Hope so!

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:36 AM James Ostrowick
mailto:ja...@ostrowick.co.za>> wrote:

So, if you start typing:

<




If you hit enter at the
 as this is the first entry.

What I’ve found to work, to stop this from happening is go
into preferences / options


Kind Regards,
James Ostrowick



On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:32, Geertjan Wielenga
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> wrote:


I have this in the HTML editor right now:

mailto:ja...@ostrowick.co.za>> wrote:


Nope, this was a Mac.
Mac OS X 11.4
Netbeans 12.4

Kind Regards,
James Ostrowick



On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:26, Geertjan Wielenga
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

Maybe it's Windows specific?

On Mac, trying really hard, but not able to reproduce.

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:16 AM James Ostrowick
mailto:ja...@ostrowick.co.za>>
wrote:

I know exactly what John is talking about.



If you hit enter at this point(in the attached image)
It will complete the  element

This happens in HTML/XHTML files.

Kind Regards,
James Ostrowick



On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:13, Geertjan Wielenga
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>>
wrote:

Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what
you're trying to do is disable code completion just
because it pops up when you press Enter, then the
problem lies elsewhere.

Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped
to the Enter key in one way or another.

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle
mailto:j...@jql.co.uk>> wrote:

When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up.
Very irritating.

Best regards,
John
j...@jql.co.uk 
Bike Farkles:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ

JLavelle.uk 
https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk



On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan
Wielenga mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped
to your Enter key?

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan
Wielenga mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
wrote:

Every time you press Enter it pops up?

That's strange and not something I've
ever seen.

Has that always been the case?

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John
Lavelle mailto:j...@jql.co.uk>> wrote:

Geertjan,

The only way to disable it is to
turn it off for *all* languages,
not just HTML.

Auto complete in HTML is very
intrusive unlike say for PHP.

I find auto complete useful in
general but in HTML every time you
press enter it pops up and you have
to press Escape before typing.
Quite often, if you're changing
  

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I have this in the HTML editor right now:


wrote:

>
> Nope, this was a Mac.
> Mac OS X 11.4
> Netbeans 12.4
>
> Kind Regards,
> James Ostrowick
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:26, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's Windows specific?
>
> On Mac, trying really hard, but not able to reproduce.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:16 AM James Ostrowick 
> wrote:
>
>> I know exactly what John is talking about.
>>
>> 
>>
>> If you hit enter at this point(in the attached image)
>> It will complete the  element
>>
>> This happens in HTML/XHTML files.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> James Ostrowick
>>
>>
>> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:13, Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>
>> Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what you're trying to do is
>> disable code completion just because it pops up when you press Enter, then
>> the problem lies elsewhere.
>>
>> Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped to the Enter key in
>> one way or another.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>
>>> When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> John
>>> j...@jql.co.uk
>>> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>>> JLavelle.uk  https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?

 Gj

 On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
 geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Every time you press Enter it pops up?
>
> That's strange and not something I've ever seen.
>
> Has that always been the case?
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>
>> Geertjan,
>>
>> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not
>> just HTML.
>>
>> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>>
>> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you
>> press enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite
>> often, if you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape 
>> and
>> have to delete the "suggestions"
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John Lavelle
>> j...@jql.co.uk
>>
>> Sent via awful Android
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does
>>> code completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call 
>>> it up
>>> via Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>>
 Emi,

 Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on
 the xml file name?

 Best regards,
 John
 j...@jql.co.uk
 Bike Farkles:
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
 JLavelle.uk 
 https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk


 On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold 
 wrote:

> Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property
> that
> was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it
> it
> doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that
> property
> or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.
>
> So now, the questions just is how was that property called?
>
> You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
> NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
> the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.
>
> --emi
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle 
> wrote:
> >
> > BUMP! BUMP!
> >
> > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience
> of this?
> >
> > Any answers or suggestions?
> >
> > Regards
> > John
> >
> > BUMP!
> >
> > Can anyone shed any light on this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for
> HTML by deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in
> "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code
> Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
> >
> > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for
> HTML is to disable it for every language in the "All languages" 

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[James Ostrowick]

Nope, this was a Mac.
Mac OS X 11.4
Netbeans 12.4

Kind Regards,
James Ostrowick


> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:26, Geertjan Wielenga 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it's Windows specific?
> 
> On Mac, trying really hard, but not able to reproduce.
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:16 AM James Ostrowick  > wrote:
> I know exactly what John is talking about.
> 
> 
> 
> If you hit enter at this point(in the attached image)
> It will complete the  element
> 
> This happens in HTML/XHTML files.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> James Ostrowick
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:13, Geertjan Wielenga 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what you're trying to do is 
>> disable code completion just because it pops up when you press Enter, then 
>> the problem lies elsewhere.
>> 
>> Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped to the Enter key in one 
>> way or another.
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle > > wrote:
>> When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> John
>> j...@jql.co.uk 
>> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ 
>> 
>> JLavelle.uk  https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
>> mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
>> mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> Every time you press Enter it pops up?
>> 
>> That's strange and not something I've ever seen. 
>> 
>> Has that always been the case?
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle > > wrote:
>> Geertjan, 
>> 
>> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not just 
>> HTML.
>> 
>> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>> 
>> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you press 
>> enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite often, if 
>> you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape and have to 
>> delete the "suggestions" 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> John Lavelle
>> j...@jql.co.uk 
>> 
>> Sent via awful Android
>> 
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, 
>> mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does code 
>> completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it up via 
>> Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle > > wrote:
>> Emi,
>> 
>> Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the xml 
>> file name?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> John
>> j...@jql.co.uk 
>> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ 
>> 
>> JLavelle.uk  https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold > > wrote:
>> Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property that
>> was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it it
>> doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that property
>> or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.
>> 
>> So now, the questions just is how was that property called?
>> 
>> You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
>> NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
>> the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.
>> 
>> --emi
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle > > wrote:
>> >
>> > BUMP! BUMP!
>> >
>> > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience of this?
>> >
>> > Any answers or suggestions?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > John
>> >
>> > BUMP!
>> >
>> > Can anyone shed any light on this?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > John
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for HTML by 
>> > deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in 
>> > "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code 
>> > Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
>> >
>> > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML is to 
>> > disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code Completion 
>> > section.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language as the 
>> > "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > John
>> > j...@jql.co.uk 

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Maybe it's Windows specific?

On Mac, trying really hard, but not able to reproduce.

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:16 AM James Ostrowick 
wrote:

> I know exactly what John is talking about.
>
>
> If you hit enter at this point(in the attached image)
> It will complete the  element
>
> This happens in HTML/XHTML files.
>
> Kind Regards,
> James Ostrowick
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:13, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what you're trying to do is
> disable code completion just because it pops up when you press Enter, then
> the problem lies elsewhere.
>
> Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped to the Enter key in one
> way or another.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>
>> When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>> j...@jql.co.uk
>> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Every time you press Enter it pops up?

 That's strange and not something I've ever seen.

 Has that always been the case?

 Gj

 On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  wrote:

> Geertjan,
>
> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not
> just HTML.
>
> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>
> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you
> press enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite
> often, if you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape 
> and
> have to delete the "suggestions"
>
> Best regards,
> John Lavelle
> j...@jql.co.uk
>
> Sent via awful Android
>
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does
>> code completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it 
>> up
>> via Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>
>>> Emi,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the
>>> xml file name?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> John
>>> j...@jql.co.uk
>>> Bike Farkles:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>>> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property
 that
 was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it
 it
 doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that
 property
 or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.

 So now, the questions just is how was that property called?

 You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
 NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
 the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.

 --emi

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle 
 wrote:
 >
 > BUMP! BUMP!
 >
 > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience
 of this?
 >
 > Any answers or suggestions?
 >
 > Regards
 > John
 >
 > BUMP!
 >
 > Can anyone shed any light on this?
 >
 > Thanks
 > John
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for
 HTML by deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in
 "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code
 Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
 >
 > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML
 is to disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code 
 Completion
 section.
 >
 > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language
 as the "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
 >
 > Best regards,
 > John
 > j...@jql.co.uk
 > Bike Farkles:
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
 > JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk

>>>
>

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[James Ostrowick]

I know exactly what John is talking about.



If you hit enter at this point(in the attached image)
It will complete the  element

This happens in HTML/XHTML files.

Kind Regards,
James Ostrowick


> On 12 Jul 2021, at 08:13, Geertjan Wielenga 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what you're trying to do is 
> disable code completion just because it pops up when you press Enter, then 
> the problem lies elsewhere.
> 
> Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped to the Enter key in one 
> way or another.
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle  > wrote:
> When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.
> 
> Best regards,
> John
> j...@jql.co.uk 
> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ 
> 
> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
> wrote:
> Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
> wrote:
> Every time you press Enter it pops up?
> 
> That's strange and not something I've ever seen. 
> 
> Has that always been the case?
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  > wrote:
> Geertjan, 
> 
> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not just 
> HTML.
> 
> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
> 
> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you press enter 
> it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite often, if you're 
> changing between languages, you forget to press escape and have to delete the 
> "suggestions" 
> 
> Best regards,
> John Lavelle
> j...@jql.co.uk 
> 
> Sent via awful Android
> 
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, 
> mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
> wrote:
> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does code 
> completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it up via 
> Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  > wrote:
> Emi,
> 
> Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the xml file 
> name?
> 
> Best regards,
> John
> j...@jql.co.uk 
> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ 
> 
> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold  > wrote:
> Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property that
> was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it it
> doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that property
> or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.
> 
> So now, the questions just is how was that property called?
> 
> You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
> NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
> the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.
> 
> --emi
> 
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle  > wrote:
> >
> > BUMP! BUMP!
> >
> > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience of this?
> >
> > Any answers or suggestions?
> >
> > Regards
> > John
> >
> > BUMP!
> >
> > Can anyone shed any light on this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for HTML by 
> > deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in 
> > "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code 
> > Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
> >
> > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML is to 
> > disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code Completion 
> > section.
> >
> > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language as the 
> > "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > John
> > j...@jql.co.uk 
> > Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ 
> > 
> > JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk 
> > 

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Nope, that's never happened to me -- and if what you're trying to do is
disable code completion just because it pops up when you press Enter, then
the problem lies elsewhere.

Check that your code completion hasn't been mapped to the Enter key in one
way or another.

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:09 AM John Lavelle  wrote:

> When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.
>
> Best regards,
> John
> j...@jql.co.uk
> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Every time you press Enter it pops up?
>>>
>>> That's strange and not something I've ever seen.
>>>
>>> Has that always been the case?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>>
 Geertjan,

 The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not
 just HTML.

 Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.

 I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you press
 enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite often,
 if you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape and have
 to delete the "suggestions"

 Best regards,
 John Lavelle
 j...@jql.co.uk

 Sent via awful Android

 On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
 geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does
> code completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it 
> up
> via Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>
>> Emi,
>>
>> Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the
>> xml file name?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>> j...@jql.co.uk
>> Bike Farkles:
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property
>>> that
>>> was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it it
>>> doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that property
>>> or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.
>>>
>>> So now, the questions just is how was that property called?
>>>
>>> You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
>>> NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
>>> the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > BUMP! BUMP!
>>> >
>>> > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience of
>>> this?
>>> >
>>> > Any answers or suggestions?
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > BUMP!
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone shed any light on this?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for HTML
>>> by deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in
>>> "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code
>>> Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
>>> >
>>> > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML
>>> is to disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code 
>>> Completion
>>> section.
>>> >
>>> > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language as
>>> the "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > John
>>> > j...@jql.co.uk
>>> > Bike Farkles:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>>> > JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>>
>>

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[John Lavelle]

When you press Enter for a Newline it pops up. Very irritating.

Best regards,
John
j...@jql.co.uk
Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk


On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:02 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Every time you press Enter it pops up?
>>
>> That's strange and not something I've ever seen.
>>
>> Has that always been the case?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>
>>> Geertjan,
>>>
>>> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not
>>> just HTML.
>>>
>>> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>>>
>>> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you press
>>> enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite often,
>>> if you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape and have
>>> to delete the "suggestions"
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> John Lavelle
>>> j...@jql.co.uk
>>>
>>> Sent via awful Android
>>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does code
 completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it up via
 Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?

 Gj

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  wrote:

> Emi,
>
> Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the
> xml file name?
>
> Best regards,
> John
> j...@jql.co.uk
> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold 
> wrote:
>
>> Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property that
>> was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it it
>> doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that property
>> or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.
>>
>> So now, the questions just is how was that property called?
>>
>> You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
>> NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
>> the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.
>>
>> --emi
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>> >
>> > BUMP! BUMP!
>> >
>> > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience of
>> this?
>> >
>> > Any answers or suggestions?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > John
>> >
>> > BUMP!
>> >
>> > Can anyone shed any light on this?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > John
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for HTML
>> by deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in
>> "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code
>> Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
>> >
>> > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML
>> is to disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code 
>> Completion
>> section.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language as
>> the "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > John
>> > j...@jql.co.uk
>> > Bike Farkles:
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>> > JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>
>

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Maybe somehow the code completion is mapped to your Enter key?

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Every time you press Enter it pops up?
>
> That's strange and not something I've ever seen.
>
> Has that always been the case?
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>
>> Geertjan,
>>
>> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not
>> just HTML.
>>
>> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>>
>> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you press
>> enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite often,
>> if you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape and have
>> to delete the "suggestions"
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John Lavelle
>> j...@jql.co.uk
>>
>> Sent via awful Android
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does code
>>> completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it up via
>>> Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>>
 Emi,

 Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the
 xml file name?

 Best regards,
 John
 j...@jql.co.uk
 Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
 JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk


 On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold 
 wrote:

> Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property that
> was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it it
> doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that property
> or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.
>
> So now, the questions just is how was that property called?
>
> You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
> NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
> the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.
>
> --emi
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
> >
> > BUMP! BUMP!
> >
> > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience of
> this?
> >
> > Any answers or suggestions?
> >
> > Regards
> > John
> >
> > BUMP!
> >
> > Can anyone shed any light on this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for HTML
> by deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in
> "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code
> Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
> >
> > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML is
> to disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code Completion
> section.
> >
> > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language as
> the "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > John
> > j...@jql.co.uk
> > Bike Farkles:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
> > JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>

Re: HTML Disable Auto Completion 12.4

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Every time you press Enter it pops up?

That's strange and not something I've ever seen.

Has that always been the case?

Gj

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:19 AM John Lavelle  wrote:

> Geertjan,
>
> The only way to disable it is to turn it off for *all* languages, not just
> HTML.
>
> Auto complete in HTML is very intrusive unlike say for PHP.
>
> I find auto complete useful in general but in HTML every time you press
> enter it pops up and you have to press Escape before typing. Quite often,
> if you're changing between languages, you forget to press escape and have
> to delete the "suggestions"
>
> Best regards,
> John Lavelle
> j...@jql.co.uk
>
> Sent via awful Android
>
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021, 22:35 Geertjan Wielenga, <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Trying to look into this, but not sure what the aim is -- why does code
>> completion need to be disabled for HTML? I.e., if you don't call it up via
>> Ctrl-Space, you won't see it, right?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:59 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
>>
>>> Emi,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for that. Any chance you can give me a "heads-up" on the xml
>>> file name?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> John
>>> j...@jql.co.uk
>>> Bike Farkles: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
>>> JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 AM Emilian Bold 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Back when I was working on this each such settings had a property that
 was being saved by NetBeans. So, just because there's no UI for it it
 doesn't mean you can't make a simple module that tweaks that property
 or just hand-edit an XML in your userdir.

 So now, the questions just is how was that property called?

 You can probably learn it by just tweaking the property in an older
 NetBeand then diff-ing the files. I'd guess just copying the XML to
 the 12.4 user dir would do the trick.

 --emi

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM John Lavelle  wrote:
 >
 > BUMP! BUMP!
 >
 > I assume that no one uses HTML in NetBeans so has no experience of
 this?
 >
 > Any answers or suggestions?
 >
 > Regards
 > John
 >
 > BUMP!
 >
 > Can anyone shed any light on this?
 >
 > Thanks
 > John
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > You used to be able to disable the Auto Completion pop-up for HTML by
 deleting (must be deleted not just disabled) the items in
 "Tools>Palette>Code Clips" (why?) then in "Tools>Options>Editor>Code
 Completion>HTML" deselecting "Auto Popup Completion Window".
 >
 > In 12.4 it seems the only way to disable Code Completion for HTML is
 to disable it for every language in the "All languages" Code Completion
 section.
 >
 > Is there a way to disable Code Completion just for one language as
 the "old" system no longer seems to work correctly?
 >
 > Best regards,
 > John
 > j...@jql.co.uk
 > Bike Farkles:
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPRV92Cf_R1ihviRtVU2teQ
 > JLavelle.uk https://www.youtube.com/jlavelleuk

>>>