Re: Cloned and floated window not behaving

2023-12-06 Thread Michael Bien

On 06.12.23 21:06, Ernie Rael wrote:


> N views at once make that even more interesting. There are certainly 
ways
> to improve this but I don't think there is a single/obvious way how 
it should

> behave - it is somewhat context dependent.

I can't think of a use case where you want a non-focused *editor 
window* jumping around ...


for the ctrl-z case viewport changes should be limited to last focused 
window - I agree, since right now everything will scroll. Breakpoints 
seem to prefer the oldest window which might be another option.


-mbien


-ernie



Re: Cloned and floated window not behaving

2023-12-06 Thread Ernie Rael

On 23/12/06 10:30 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:

+1 for scroll lock



Using a TopComponent registry listener or maybe an editor registry 
listener, any non-focus editor window editing the same file as the 
focused/current editor could be locked. You could probably do it with a 
small plugin.


Regarding the comment

> N views at once make that even more interesting. There are certainly 
ways
> to improve this but I don't think there is a single/obvious way how 
it should

> behave - it is somewhat context dependent.

I can't think of a use case where you want a non-focused *editor window* 
jumping around on it's own due to a swing implementation issue.


-ernie



Mitch

On 12/6/23 10:20, Ernie Rael wrote:

On 23/12/06 7:47 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:
Editing a Java class. I'm creating a new version of a method in that 
class and want the old version in a separate window for reference. I 
clone the current window then float it and scroll to the old version 
of the method in the floated window and put that window on a 
different monitor.


When I make changes in the same file in the main NB window the 
floated window doesn't stay where it was, but scrolls to where I'm 
making edits in the main window.


Is that the expected behavior?

That's long standing (like forever) behavior, probably a swing issue. 
IIRC, the "cloned" window only scrolls when lines are added/removed 
earlier in the file than the position being displayed.


jVi fixed it (back in NB-6.x I think, or maybe even when jVi was only 
on JBuilder); posted an issue but NB wasn't interested in the fix. 
See FreezeViewport.java in the jVi sources.


-ernie


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Re: Adjusting to monitor resolution

2023-12-06 Thread Michael Bien
you can overwrite the logic with flags, in your case the easiest 
solution is probably to create two shortcuts for NetBeans, one which 
opens an instance which is meant to work on your large screen, and one 
which is meant to work on your lower res screen.



netbeans --fontsize 16

changes just the font size to 16 for example


netbeans -J-Dsun.java2d.uiScale=2

makes everything 2x larger


regards,
-mbien

On 06.12.23 20:39, Greenberg, Gary wrote:


I am working with NB 18 on DELL laptop in two locations (1/2 day in 
each), where I am connecting laptop to external monitors.

My problem is that monitors have different resolutions.

  * 3840X2160
  * 1920X1200

When connected to a higher resolution monitor, fonts becoming small 
and uncomfortable.


Changing the font settings in Netbeans twice a day is cumbersome. 
Changing monitor setting is blocked by sysadmins.

Can I configure options to automatically adjust NB to monitor resolution?

*Gary Greenberg*

Staff Software Engineer



Re: Adjusting to monitor resolution

2023-12-06 Thread Thomas Wolf
Others will most likely provide a more helpful answer, but just in case not, 
one of the potential problems is with the version of the JRE you’re running 
Netbeans with.  I believe before Java 17, things like fonts didn’t scale well.  
So running with Java 17+ might help.  Plus in Windows (I’m  a mac/linux user) 
isn’t there a font related display setting that you can increase?  Lastly, when 
I asked this question a few years ago, a kind soul gave some arguments you 
could give to Netbeans in its config file to help.  Google searches for 
“netbeans” “quad resolution” and “tiny” might yield useful results.

good luck,
tom

> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Greenberg, Gary  wrote:
> 
> I am working with NB 18 on DELL laptop in two locations (1/2 day in each), 
> where I am connecting laptop to external monitors.
> My problem is that monitors have different resolutions.
> 3840X2160
> 1920X1200
> When connected to a higher resolution monitor, fonts becoming small and 
> uncomfortable.
> Changing the font settings in Netbeans twice a day is cumbersome. Changing 
> monitor setting is blocked by sysadmins.
> Can I configure options to automatically adjust NB to monitor resolution?
>  
> Gary Greenberg
> Staff Software Engineer



Adjusting to monitor resolution

2023-12-06 Thread Greenberg, Gary
I am working with NB 18 on DELL laptop in two locations (1/2 day in each), 
where I am connecting laptop to external monitors.
My problem is that monitors have different resolutions.

  *   3840X2160
  *   1920X1200
When connected to a higher resolution monitor, fonts becoming small and 
uncomfortable.
Changing the font settings in Netbeans twice a day is cumbersome. Changing 
monitor setting is blocked by sysadmins.
Can I configure options to automatically adjust NB to monitor resolution?

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer



Re: Cloned and floated window not behaving

2023-12-06 Thread Mitch Claborn

+1 for scroll lock

Mitch

On 12/6/23 10:20, Ernie Rael wrote:

On 23/12/06 7:47 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:
Editing a Java class. I'm creating a new version of a method in that 
class and want the old version in a separate window for reference. I 
clone the current window then float it and scroll to the old version 
of the method in the floated window and put that window on a different 
monitor.


When I make changes in the same file in the main NB window the floated 
window doesn't stay where it was, but scrolls to where I'm making 
edits in the main window.


Is that the expected behavior?

That's long standing (like forever) behavior, probably a swing issue. 
IIRC, the "cloned" window only scrolls when lines are added/removed 
earlier in the file than the position being displayed.


jVi fixed it (back in NB-6.x I think, or maybe even when jVi was only on 
JBuilder); posted an issue but NB wasn't interested in the fix. See 
FreezeViewport.java in the jVi sources.


-ernie


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Re: Cloned and floated window not behaving

2023-12-06 Thread Michael Bien

Hi Mitch,

depends. This is a hard problem to solve, since it might be the right 
behavior in some cases, but not in others.


example: ctrl-z will move the view to the change, in some situations 
this is very useful and exactly what is expected from the IDE, in other 
cases (e.g reverting automatically added imports) the IDE shouldn't 
distract by scrolling to the top of the file.


N views at once make that even more interesting. There are certainly 
ways to improve this but I don't think there is a single/obvious way how 
it should behave - it is somewhat context dependent.


two more examples of scrolling related issues:
 - the output window stops scrolling as soon an exception is printed, 
this is a feature in 90% of all cases and super annoying in 10% of all 
cases, e.g if you dump stack traces in your log
 - clicking a link in a scrolled pane did center that link - which was 
removed in NB 20 (last minute #6679) since that was annoying when a user 
clicked through a stack trace for example which made the view move 
slightly on every click.


maybe we should add a scroll-lock button or something like that

-mbien


On 06.12.23 16:47, Mitch Claborn wrote:
Editing a Java class. I'm creating a new version of a method in that 
class and want the old version in a separate window for reference. I 
clone the current window then float it and scroll to the old version 
of the method in the floated window and put that window on a different 
monitor.


When I make changes in the same file in the main NB window the floated 
window doesn't stay where it was, but scrolls to where I'm making 
edits in the main window.


Is that the expected behavior?




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Re: Cloned and floated window not behaving

2023-12-06 Thread Ernie Rael

On 23/12/06 7:47 AM, Mitch Claborn wrote:
Editing a Java class. I'm creating a new version of a method in that 
class and want the old version in a separate window for reference. I 
clone the current window then float it and scroll to the old version 
of the method in the floated window and put that window on a different 
monitor.


When I make changes in the same file in the main NB window the floated 
window doesn't stay where it was, but scrolls to where I'm making 
edits in the main window.


Is that the expected behavior?

That's long standing (like forever) behavior, probably a swing issue. 
IIRC, the "cloned" window only scrolls when lines are added/removed 
earlier in the file than the position being displayed.


jVi fixed it (back in NB-6.x I think, or maybe even when jVi was only on 
JBuilder); posted an issue but NB wasn't interested in the fix. See 
FreezeViewport.java in the jVi sources.


-ernie


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Cloned and floated window not behaving

2023-12-06 Thread Mitch Claborn
Editing a Java class. I'm creating a new version of a method in that 
class and want the old version in a separate window for reference. I 
clone the current window then float it and scroll to the old version of 
the method in the floated window and put that window on a different 
monitor.


When I make changes in the same file in the main NB window the floated 
window doesn't stay where it was, but scrolls to where I'm making edits 
in the main window.


Is that the expected behavior?

--
Mitch

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