Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Arbol One]

Upgrade you JSDK to at least "openjdk 17.0.9", I think you are using 
Oracle's java


On 2023-12-18 12:22 p.m., Judi Rastall wrote:

Hi all,

I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I 
have just downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns 
me that I cannot use it with Java versions earlier than 11.  I go to 
my Java installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on 
check for updates, and it tells me I have the latest version. I go to 
the official Java website and it says Version 8 build 391 is their 
latest release. What is going on here?


I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with 
NetBeans v18 for now ...


Regards,

Judi Rastall

On 18/12/2023 08:59, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans 
20 was released on December 1, 2023. Apologies for announcing this so 
late.


What's in the Apache NetBeans 20 release:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20

With thanks to 26 contributors, including 6 who have contributed for 
the first time. Thank you!


Downloads:

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb20/

See our release schedule:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Feel free to share the good news!

Thanks everyone, and best wishes,

Neil, Eric, Martin, Geertjan

on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Scott Palmer]

Some of this confusion is caused by the fact that there is no longer a separate JRE download. Java.com was targeted at end users, not developers. There is indeed no update to the Java 8 JRE as the JRE is discontinued. The JDK is a different story. ScottOn Dec 18, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Leo Donahue  wrote:On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 13:09 Stephen Winnall  wrote:Why is everyone avoiding answering Judi’s question?On the NetBeans main page, it says indirectly that you can't install with java 8, you need 11+Deployment PlatformsThe Apache NetBeans 20 binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11, 17 and 21.https://netbeans.apache.org/front/main/download/nb20/I don’t pretend to be the expert but the answer to Judi’s question is: download newer (post-v8) versions of Java from Zulu (https://www.azul.com/downloads/?package=jdk#zulu) or some other OpenJDK site. Cheers,SteveOn 18 Dec 2023, at 19:04, Michael Bien  wrote:On 18.12.23 18:22, Judi Rastall wrote:I go to my Java installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for updates, and it tells me I have the latest version.java isn't going to update to the next major version on windows. I don't think the newer JDKs have even an updater anymore (not sure, might be vendor dependent).The easiest way to get started on windows is to use one of the community installers which bundle a current JDK with NB in one package. If you don't want that, then check the requirements on the download page and install a supported JDK of a vendor you prefer.-mbien-To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.orgFor additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.orgFor further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists

[ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Joseph Jalbert]

The version of java installed for windows and the java referred to by 
the environment variable Java_Home are not the same. Netbeans will load 
with the JDK referred to in Java_Home and that can be any version you 
care to download to your hard-drive and setup.


Very strange!

I have updated both Java and NetBeans as prompted through many versions 
for several years and my current versions seem to happily coexist and 
have done so throughout each update.


Why is the java.com website saying that Java versions 7 and 8 are 
recommended for Windows 10 64-bit computers if there's a "newer" or 
"higher" version available? And where might i find that if it's not on 
the java.com website?


Confused.com

Judi Rastall

On 18/12/2023 17:36, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 17:23, Judi Rastall  wrote:

I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I have just 
downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns me that I cannot use 
it with Java versions earlier than 11.  I go to my Java installation (which 
says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for updates, and it tells me I 
have the latest version. I go to the official Java website and it says Version 
8 build 391 is their latest release. What is going on here?

I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with NetBeans 
v18 for now ...

NetBeans hasn't supported Java 8 since NetBeans 12.6!

Neil

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Neil C Smith]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 18:09, Stephen Winnall  wrote:
> Why is everyone avoiding answering Judi’s question?
>
> I don’t pretend to be the expert but the answer to Judi’s question is: 
> download newer (post-v8) versions of Java from Zulu 
> (https://www.azul.com/downloads/?package=jdk#zulu) or some other OpenJDK site.

Michael exactly answered Judi's question!  Unless you have a specific
need to run NetBeans on a specific JDK, the community installers
provide the easiest and self-contained way to use NetBeans with the
latest versions of both.

Direct link is https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/ as well as the
link on every download page.

Relying on globally installed and registered JDKs to *run* the IDE is
a pain.  If it were solely up to me, I'd have an Apache binary zip for
those who want to configure themselves, and only have installers with
localised JDK runtimes.  It would make our lives and a lot of users'
lives easier, and help us move away from threads like this!  Which,
incidentally, would be better not happening in an [announce] tagged
thread ...

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Leo Donahue]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 13:09 Stephen Winnall  wrote:

> Why is everyone avoiding answering Judi’s question?
>

On the NetBeans main page, it says indirectly that you can't install with
java 8, you need 11+

Deployment Platforms

The Apache NetBeans 20 binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially
support running on JDK 11, 17 and 21.


https://netbeans.apache.org/front/main/download/nb20/

>
> I don’t pretend to be the expert but the answer to Judi’s question is:
> download newer (post-v8) versions of Java from Zulu (
> https://www.azul.com/downloads/?package=jdk#zulu) or some other OpenJDK
> site.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 18 Dec 2023, at 19:04, Michael Bien  wrote:
>
> On 18.12.23 18:22, Judi Rastall wrote:
>
> I go to my Java installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click
> on check for updates, and it tells me I have the latest version.
>
>
> java isn't going to update to the next major version on windows. I don't
> think the newer JDKs have even an updater anymore (not sure, might be
> vendor dependent).
>
> The easiest way to get started on windows is to use one of the community
> installers which bundle a current JDK with NB in one package. If you don't
> want that, then check the requirements on the download page and install a
> supported JDK of a vendor you prefer.
>
> -mbien
>
>
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Stephen Winnall]

Why is everyone avoiding answering Judi’s question?

I don’t pretend to be the expert but the answer to Judi’s question is: download 
newer (post-v8) versions of Java from Zulu 
(https://www.azul.com/downloads/?package=jdk#zulu) or some other OpenJDK site. 

Cheers,
Steve

> On 18 Dec 2023, at 19:04, Michael Bien  wrote:
> 
> On 18.12.23 18:22, Judi Rastall wrote:
>> I go to my Java installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on 
>> check for updates, and it tells me I have the latest version.
> 
> java isn't going to update to the next major version on windows. I don't 
> think the newer JDKs have even an updater anymore (not sure, might be vendor 
> dependent).
> 
> The easiest way to get started on windows is to use one of the community 
> installers which bundle a current JDK with NB in one package. If you don't 
> want that, then check the requirements on the download page and install a 
> supported JDK of a vendor you prefer.
> 
> -mbien
> 
> 
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> 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Michael Bien]

On 18.12.23 18:22, Judi Rastall wrote:
I go to my Java installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), 
click on check for updates, and it tells me I have the latest version.


java isn't going to update to the next major version on windows. I don't 
think the newer JDKs have even an updater anymore (not sure, might be 
vendor dependent).


The easiest way to get started on windows is to use one of the community 
installers which bundle a current JDK with NB in one package. If you 
don't want that, then check the requirements on the download page and 
install a supported JDK of a vendor you prefer.


-mbien


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Leo Donahue]

The java.com website also asks if you are a java developer (at the bottom)
and provides links to the newer version.

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 13:00 Judi Rastall  wrote:

> Very strange!
>
> I have updated both Java and NetBeans as prompted through many versions
> for several years and my current versions seem to happily coexist and have
> done so throughout each update.
>
> Why is the java.com website saying that Java versions 7 and 8 are
> recommended for Windows 10 64-bit computers if there's a "newer" or
> "higher" version available? And where might i find that if it's not on the
> java.com website?
>
> Confused.com
>
> Judi Rastall
>
> On 18/12/2023 17:36, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 17:23, Judi Rastall  
>  wrote:
>
> I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I have just 
> downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns me that I cannot 
> use it with Java versions earlier than 11.  I go to my Java installation 
> (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for updates, and it 
> tells me I have the latest version. I go to the official Java website and it 
> says Version 8 build 391 is their latest release. What is going on here?
>
> I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with NetBeans 
> v18 for now ...
>
> NetBeans hasn't supported Java 8 since NetBeans 12.6!
>
> Neil
>
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> visit:https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Judi Rastall]

Very strange!

I have updated both Java and NetBeans as prompted through many versions 
for several years and my current versions seem to happily coexist and 
have done so throughout each update.


Why is the java.com website saying that Java versions 7 and 8 are 
recommended for Windows 10 64-bit computers if there's a "newer" or 
"higher" version available? And where might i find that if it's not on 
the java.com website?


Confused.com

Judi Rastall

On 18/12/2023 17:36, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 17:23, Judi Rastall  wrote:

I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I have just 
downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns me that I cannot use 
it with Java versions earlier than 11.  I go to my Java installation (which 
says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for updates, and it tells me I 
have the latest version. I go to the official Java website and it says Version 
8 build 391 is their latest release. What is going on here?

I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with NetBeans 
v18 for now ...

NetBeans hasn't supported Java 8 since NetBeans 12.6!

Neil

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Neil C Smith]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 17:23, Judi Rastall  wrote:
> I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I have just 
> downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns me that I cannot 
> use it with Java versions earlier than 11.  I go to my Java installation 
> (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for updates, and it 
> tells me I have the latest version. I go to the official Java website and it 
> says Version 8 build 391 is their latest release. What is going on here?
>
> I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with NetBeans 
> v18 for now ...

NetBeans hasn't supported Java 8 since NetBeans 12.6!

Neil

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Geertjan Wielenga]

You’re saying Java 8 is the latest version of Java?

Gj

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 18:26, Judi Rastall  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I have
> just downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns me that I
> cannot use it with Java versions earlier than 11.  I go to my Java
> installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for
> updates, and it tells me I have the latest version. I go to the official
> Java website and it says Version 8 build 391 is their latest release. What
> is going on here?
>
> I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with
> NetBeans v18 for now ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Judi Rastall
>
> On 18/12/2023 08:59, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans 20
> was released on December 1, 2023. Apologies for announcing this so late.
>
> What's in the Apache NetBeans 20 release:
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20
>
> With thanks to 26 contributors, including 6 who have contributed for the
> first time. Thank you!
>
> Downloads:
>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb20/
>
> See our release schedule:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
>
> Feel free to share the good news!
>
> Thanks everyone, and best wishes,
>
> Neil, Eric, Martin, Geertjan
>
> on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC
>
>
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Judi Rastall]

Hi all,

I am confused and I seem to find myself in a Catch-22 situation. I have 
just downloaded and installed the new NetBeans v20 and it warns me that 
I cannot use it with Java versions earlier than 11. I go to my Java 
installation (which says it is Java v8 update 391), click on check for 
updates, and it tells me I have the latest version. I go to the official 
Java website and it says Version 8 build 391 is their latest release. 
What is going on here?


I am running Win 10 on Intel hardware. I guess I'll be staying with 
NetBeans v18 for now ...


Regards,

Judi Rastall

On 18/12/2023 08:59, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans 
20 was released on December 1, 2023. Apologies for announcing this so 
late.


What's in the Apache NetBeans 20 release:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20

With thanks to 26 contributors, including 6 who have contributed for 
the first time. Thank you!


Downloads:

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb20/

See our release schedule:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Feel free to share the good news!

Thanks everyone, and best wishes,

Neil, Eric, Martin, Geertjan

on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC

[ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 20 released

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans 20 was
released on December 1, 2023. Apologies for announcing this so late.

What's in the Apache NetBeans 20 release:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20

With thanks to 26 contributors, including 6 who have contributed for the
first time. Thank you!

Downloads:

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb20/

See our release schedule:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Feel free to share the good news!

Thanks everyone, and best wishes,

Neil, Eric, Martin, Geertjan

on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC