RE: Ribbon Interface
This is as good a place for your question as any. You can tell there are strong differences felt about other user interfaces. In any case, no developers have taken an interest in this and it won't happen unless a volunteer developer with the capacity, capability, and will to undertake something like that offers to provide it. Since it would impact the Linux and MacOSX interfaces too, this seems very unlikely. - Dennis PS: To the degree that there is intellectual property involved, I can't imagine that Microsoft would license it. > -Original Message- > From: Tai Nen Chow [mailto:tnc...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 19:33 > To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org > Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface > > Hi Dennis, > > > > I agree with your view about file-format level. > > > > > Actually i would like to post the question to OpenOffice, until one the > users informed that I had posted to Users Group. Anyway I still > appreciate Dennis and other Users feedback. > > > > > Best regards, > > Eric > > > > > > > > From: Dennis E. Hamilton > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:11 AM > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Ribbon Interface > > This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter (or Toyota versus BMW, if you > prefer). Absolute statements like this are not helpful. There are > folks who find the ribbon and its growing consistency across Windows to > be very useful, especially since you can make the whole thing disappear > and pop down only when you want it. > > Regardless, there is no plan and no likelihood that Apache OpenOffice > will offer a ribbon interface. Apache OpenOffice was never intended as > a Microsoft Office "work alike," and there is no indication of developer > interest in any such massive change to the interface. > > In my view, there is greater benefit in having better interchange at the > file-format level with fewer conversion failures in either direction. > > - Dennis > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chuck Davis [mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 05:29 > > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface > > > > Hopefully, never. It's a major productivity killer!! > > > > I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat > a > > pain!! > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow > wrote: > > > > > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface > > version? > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Open Office Supporter(Malaysia) > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mp4 video not supported in Impress
I asked about the ability to embed other formats to understand if you were able to embed anything, not to imply that you needed to encode in another format. The other point is that mp4 is a container and dues not imply the codec. I eclectic that the problem is either am inability to embed anything or that the codec is not supported. I suppose it is possible that the mp4 container is not supported but I think that is not accurate. Sent from BlueMail On Sep 9, 2016, 5:10 PM, at 5:10 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: > >> On Sep 9, 2016, at 13:08, Andrew Pitonyak >wrote: >> >> Q1: Are you able to insert other video formats? The obvious OGG >Vorbis format comes to mind. >> >> If you can embed other formats, then > >I can convert the video or I can link to the mp4 file in the same >directory. I had hoped to be able to avoid either of these steps. > > — >jt - j...@jt-mj.net > >Since when do we have to agree with people to defend them from >injustice? - Lillian Hellman > > > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ribbon Interface
Hi Dennis, I agree with your view about file-format level. Actually i would like to post the question to OpenOffice, until one the users informed that I had posted to Users Group. Anyway I still appreciate Dennis and other Users feedback. Best regards, Eric From: Dennis E. Hamilton Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:11 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: Ribbon Interface This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter (or Toyota versus BMW, if you prefer). Absolute statements like this are not helpful. There are folks who find the ribbon and its growing consistency across Windows to be very useful, especially since you can make the whole thing disappear and pop down only when you want it. Regardless, there is no plan and no likelihood that Apache OpenOffice will offer a ribbon interface. Apache OpenOffice was never intended as a Microsoft Office "work alike," and there is no indication of developer interest in any such massive change to the interface. In my view, there is greater benefit in having better interchange at the file-format level with fewer conversion failures in either direction. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Davis [mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 05:29 > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface > > Hopefully, never. It's a major productivity killer!! > > I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat a > pain!! > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow wrote: > > > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface > version? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Open Office Supporter(Malaysia) > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: MS Office Publisher
At 17:30 09/09/2016 -0400, Terry Hocevar wrote: That is exactly what I can do in Publisher and what I need. Thanks Dennis. Er, except that - as it happens - it was Dennis who told you that you *couldn't* do this in Writer and it was I that then explained how you could! ;^) Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: MS Office Publisher
That is exactly what I can do in Publisher and what I need. Thanks Dennis. -Original Message- From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:19 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Terry Hocevar Subject: RE: MS Office Publisher At 11:57 09/09/2016 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >There are functions of Publisher that OpenOffice Writer does not have >(such as column flow into non-contiguous pages) ... I hesitate to query an expert, and I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. But in OpenOffice Writer I can: o Create two frames - which can be on unrelated pages, of course. o Link the frames. o Insert text into the first frame - which then flows into the other. o Select the text (so in both frames). o Insert a section with multiple columns. The single section contains all the text and is divided between the linked frames. Does that achieve what you describe? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Your my last hope, please help.
For the record, username sent to OP by mail (private). Hagar Le 09/09/2016 à 15:37, Clifford Sanford a écrit : Hi My copy of Writer recently stopped insert current dates, page numbers, etc. I attempted to get on the community forum to get a solution for this. However, I found that I am locked out from logging in. As suggested, I tried to re register. That was not allowed as my e-mail address was already in use, by me from the previous account. Since my e-mail account was already in use by me, I am not allowed to request a password change either. Then the forum website suggested contacting the administrator. But attempts to find out how to contact the administrator could not work either without a address for that. What are we suppose to do? Can you forward this to the administrator to get this fixed? Cliff Sanfordc1sanford@yahoo.com810-728-8737 P.S. You also don't have a phone number on the website. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mp4 video not supported in Impress
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 13:08, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > > Q1: Are you able to insert other video formats? The obvious OGG Vorbis format > comes to mind. > > If you can embed other formats, then I can convert the video or I can link to the mp4 file in the same directory. I had hoped to be able to avoid either of these steps. — jt - j...@jt-mj.net Since when do we have to agree with people to defend them from injustice? - Lillian Hellman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: MS Office Publisher
> -Original Message- > From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 13:19 > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Cc: Terry Hocevar > Subject: RE: MS Office Publisher > > At 11:57 09/09/2016 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >There are functions of Publisher that OpenOffice Writer does not > >have (such as column flow into non-contiguous pages) ... > > I hesitate to query an expert, and I'm not sure exactly what you mean > here. But in OpenOffice Writer I can: > o Create two frames - which can be on unrelated pages, of course. > o Link the frames. > o Insert text into the first frame - which then flows into the other. > o Select the text (so in both frames). > o Insert a section with multiple columns. The single section contains > all the text and is divided between the linked frames. > > Does that achieve what you describe? [orcmid] Yes, that is what I was thinking of. I don't understand why there has to be a single section, although that works in Publisher. > > Brian Barker > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: MS Office Publisher
At 11:57 09/09/2016 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: There are functions of Publisher that OpenOffice Writer does not have (such as column flow into non-contiguous pages) ... I hesitate to query an expert, and I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. But in OpenOffice Writer I can: o Create two frames - which can be on unrelated pages, of course. o Link the frames. o Insert text into the first frame - which then flows into the other. o Select the text (so in both frames). o Insert a section with multiple columns. The single section contains all the text and is divided between the linked frames. Does that achieve what you describe? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MS Office Publisher
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Terry Hocevar wrote: > Hi Wade, I am looking to replace MS Publisher with something less expensive > and easier to get. I am pretty good using Publisher. Does Write work like > Word or Publisher or a mix? I was looking for a specific product or something > to move to. > > Terry I was just rereading this thread.. never saw the subject line. Sorry... I volunteered for a animal shelter and two sports organizations and I tried out scribus and inkscape. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: MS Office Publisher
> -Original Message- > From: Terry Hocevar [mailto:tcarna...@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:49 > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: MS Office Publisher > > Hi Wade, I am looking to replace MS Publisher with something less > expensive and easier to get. I am pretty good using Publisher. Does > Write work like Word or Publisher or a mix? I was looking for a specific > product or something to move to. > > Terry [orcmid] It is at best a mix. There are functions of Publisher that OpenOffice Writer does not have (such as column flow into non-contiguous pages) but that might not matter to you. And Publisher tends to depend on Word as a choice source of content to import into Publisher. Publisher 2016 is included with the desktop applications provided under Office 365 Home and Personal (along with Access). That's how I happen to have it (except with 365 Business). If you only need a non-business subscription to Office 365, those would seem to be useful. If you are still running Publisher, it should be easy enough to install Apache OpenOffice and do your own comparison testing. And there are many Desktop Publishing Software products around, and a few are free. Without knowing more about your needs, other than as a beginner, it is difficult to recommend particular options among them. Just remember, however you approach this, to always keep progressive backups and be careful how you close your work and shut down your computer, avoiding any kind of loss of your work to only the most recent changes. - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Wade Smart [mailto:wadesm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:04 AM > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: MS Office Publisher > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:41 AM, toki wrote: > > On 08/09/2016 23:58, Terry Hocevar wrote: > >> Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner > newsletter publisher? > > > > Write will do a better job than anything MSPublisher could ever dream > > of being able to do. > > > > > > jonathon > > I think Toki said a beginner to publishing, not a specific product. > > Toki, check out http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ Its a linux mag but they > talk about the tech they use to produce it. Write is one one of their > tools. I think they even have a article series about publishing. > > Wade > > -- > Registered Linux User: #480675 > Registered Linux Machine: #408606 > Linux since June 2005 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mp4 video not supported in Impress
First question, since I know little to nothing about this that is not many years out of date: Q1: Are you able to insert other video formats? The obvious OGG Vorbis format comes to mind. If you can embed other formats, then MP4 is just a container, do you know what codec is used to encode the contained video? It is similar to saying that you cannot play the video contained in a ZIP file. OK, so the comparison is not really good, but If the codec used is not supported, then for certain you cannot do it. I spend little to no time doing this sort of thing, but, I believe that you can use a program called "mediainfo", but I would first check to see if your OS supports just giving you that information with an already installed tool: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/ https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo Again, I have NOT tried these two programs, but I found it listed in the following article that lists five tools to find out about the codecs used https://www.raymond.cc/blog/determine-audio-video-codec-required-to-play-downloaded-movies/ Now, that said, give this a read: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44180 On 09.09.2016 12:44, Julian Thomas wrote: I am unable to insert an mp4 video in OO 4.1.2 in either windows 10 or Macos. Is there a fix for this? — jt - j...@jt-mj.net Do unto those downstream as you would have those upstream do unto you. - Wendell Berry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ribbon Interface
On 09/09/2016 12:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter I'd have thought Porche vs Lada. ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ribbon Interface
On 09/09/2016 12:04 AM, Tai Nen Chow wrote: > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface version? > > Hopefully NEVER!!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MS Office Publisher
On 09/08/2016 07:58 PM, Terry Hocevar wrote: > > Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner > newsletter publisher? > > > > You might try Scribus. https://www.scribus.net/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: MS Office Publisher
Hi Wade, I am looking to replace MS Publisher with something less expensive and easier to get. I am pretty good using Publisher. Does Write work like Word or Publisher or a mix? I was looking for a specific product or something to move to. Terry -Original Message- From: Wade Smart [mailto:wadesm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 8:04 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: MS Office Publisher On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:41 AM, toki wrote: > On 08/09/2016 23:58, Terry Hocevar wrote: >> Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner newsletter >> publisher? > > Write will do a better job than anything MSPublisher could ever dream > of being able to do. > > > jonathon I think Toki said a beginner to publishing, not a specific product. Toki, check out http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ Its a linux mag but they talk about the tech they use to produce it. Write is one one of their tools. I think they even have a article series about publishing. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
mp4 video not supported in Impress
I am unable to insert an mp4 video in OO 4.1.2 in either windows 10 or Macos. Is there a fix for this? — jt - j...@jt-mj.net Do unto those downstream as you would have those upstream do unto you. - Wendell Berry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ribbon Interface
I would say more accurately, some people live it and some people hate it... At the moment there is no plan to go in this direction Sent from BlueMail On Sep 9, 2016, 8:27 AM, at 8:27 AM, Chuck Davis wrote: >Hopefully, never. It's a major productivity killer!! > >I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat >a >pain!! > >On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow >wrote: > >> Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface >version? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Open Office Supporter(Malaysia) >>
RE: Ribbon Interface
This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter (or Toyota versus BMW, if you prefer). Absolute statements like this are not helpful. There are folks who find the ribbon and its growing consistency across Windows to be very useful, especially since you can make the whole thing disappear and pop down only when you want it. Regardless, there is no plan and no likelihood that Apache OpenOffice will offer a ribbon interface. Apache OpenOffice was never intended as a Microsoft Office "work alike," and there is no indication of developer interest in any such massive change to the interface. In my view, there is greater benefit in having better interchange at the file-format level with fewer conversion failures in either direction. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Davis [mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 05:29 > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ribbon Interface > > Hopefully, never. It's a major productivity killer!! > > I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat a > pain!! > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow wrote: > > > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface > version? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Open Office Supporter(Malaysia) > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ribbon Interface
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 08:28, Chuck Davis wrote: > > Hopefully, never. It's a major productivity killer!! I agree. Who needs it? — jt - j...@jt-mj.net The right thing and the easy thing are rarely the same thing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Your my last hope, please help.
Hi My copy of Writer recently stopped insert current dates, page numbers, etc. I attempted to get on the community forum to get a solution for this. However, I found that I am locked out from logging in. As suggested, I tried to re register. That was not allowed as my e-mail address was already in use, by me from the previous account. Since my e-mail account was already in use by me, I am not allowed to request a password change either. Then the forum website suggested contacting the administrator. But attempts to find out how to contact the administrator could not work either without a address for that. What are we suppose to do? Can you forward this to the administrator to get this fixed? Cliff Sanfordc1sanford@yahoo.com810-728-8737 P.S. You also don't have a phone number on the website.
Re: Ribbon Interface
Hopefully, never. It's a major productivity killer!! I'm currently working on a project where I've had to use excelwhat a pain!! On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Tai Nen Chow wrote: > Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface version? > > > Best regards, > > Open Office Supporter(Malaysia) >
Re: MS Office Publisher
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:41 AM, toki wrote: > On 08/09/2016 23:58, Terry Hocevar wrote: >> Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner newsletter >> publisher? > > Write will do a better job than anything MSPublisher could ever dream of > being able to do. > > > jonathon I think Toki said a beginner to publishing, not a specific product. Toki, check out http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ Its a linux mag but they talk about the tech they use to produce it. Write is one one of their tools. I think they even have a article series about publishing. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MS Office Publisher
On 08/09/2016 23:58, Terry Hocevar wrote: > Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner newsletter > publisher? Write will do a better job than anything MSPublisher could ever dream of being able to do. jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org