Re: Please help- file lost

[Lucetta]

I have also had this problem, this year was the first time ever in 29 years w/ 
computers. Was working w/ someone  else in a rush working from home w/ out her 
office equipment. 

You are not alone!
Can you look through all the other places where you might have saved an earlier 
version?

I now save documents and other important files in a variety of places going 
along. Documents folder, desktop, specifically named folder for that type of 
file, project folder etc. Messy but necessary for the way I work. 

You can also set up a backup to an external hard drive/ rocket stick or dongle 
etc so as to save elsewhere than your computer incase of hard drive problems. 

Every time I save a document it gets a slightly different name. As an 
example...  name, date, v 1,2 etc. V being version for that date. Messy but 
reliable. 

You may have a slightly earlier version somewhere which would avoid you having 
to redo everything. Can you do a general search w/ slightly different names?

You can also email versions to yourself. You will then have the file in your 
email as sent & received mail boxes. Do this at the end of the day. 

Good luck! 
We have all been there & it is a hard learned lesson. Everyone has this story 
too so don’t feel to bad just deal with it for the future. 

Lucetta



> On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> See: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=84056
> 
> Very few chances to recover anything. This is a longstanding issue in AOO.
> 
> Bware, you're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies.
> 
> Hagar
> 
>> Le 07/12/2020 à 18:59, Jessica moloney a écrit :
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am praying you can help me. My computer shut down on its own last night 
>> and when I reopened open office, the auto recovery was unable to recover a 
>> very important document that I was working on and despite me saving it 
>> numerous times throughout my working on it, the entire thing is now gone. 
>> Please, I am so desperate to recover this, if someone can please help me, I 
>> would greatly appreciate it.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Jessica
>> 631-220-2620
>> 
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Re: After all these years ... still buggy implementations ... do users still tolerate it?

[Lucetta]

People who can’t use OO, like myself move on.
The tech help here at all volunteers & I greatly admire their enthusiasm, 
talents & energy!

 Still get get digests as I can’t be bothered working out how to remove my 
email from the list. Also any info can turnout to be useful & reused in a 
slightly context. Actually I’m nostalgic about the whole concept & very much 
admire & appreciate the volunteers who work on others behalf. 

At tax time last year our accountant, under lockdown couldn’t get into my OO 
spreadsheets. Long after we worked out that it was her problem but made it 
mine. I had to buy a new laptop & Excel. Then learn how to use them and rewrite 
my spreadsheets from scratch as I could not import the originals in any way the 
accountant could read. 

I posted a question & was sent some seriously nasty messages that disappeared 
after reading. (Now I print anything important immediately)

Good luck
Lucetta

 



> On Oct 24, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:
> 
> Den lör 24 okt. 2020 kl 12:29 skrev Olle Olsson :
> 
>> I find it amazing that after so many years, and so much effort spent on
>> implementations, the oo tools are still in what I would call "pre-release
>> testing stage".
>> 
> 
> I don't know, I didn't use Apache OpenOffice for a while, since it crashed
> at startup, and I didn't have the energy to send a bug report at the time,
> so I just continued using LibreOffice instead.
> 
> 
>> The main concern I have is that images cannot be handled reliably in oo
>> Writer.
>> 
> 
> Ah, that old problem that I had in Word many years ago, which made me
> switch to OpenOffice.org in the first place! I still use Word at work and I
> still have big issues with images. I change something and suddenly all the
> pictures are all over the place. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, so I
> guess that Word is just not for me.
> 
> Modern documents are image heavy.
> 
> 
> Mine aren't, but I guess you're right.
> 
> 
>> Rarely we see text-only documents.
> 
> 
> I have a lot of them, but I'm really more a spreadsheet kind of guy, so I
> rarely write text documents at all.
> 
> 
>> And
>> often images are photographic. And sometimes many of them. Do take a look
>> at the main information dissemination medium of our time: the web. The web
>> has become a "multi media" medium, where it is so easy to create
>> image-heavy web objects (and where the behavior actually is predictable!)
>> 
> 
> So what do you need Writer for?
> 
>> 
>> So what happens if you create an image-heavy oo Writer  document? Well, the
>> images you painstakingly inserted , have later disappeared from your
>> document.!
> 
> From your document maybe, not from mine. I actually searched for odt files
> a minute ago and I found one that I made in 2007, 29 pages with a lot of
> images in it (which, as I said, is very rare for me, but rare doesn't mean
> it never happens). As far as I can see, all images are still there and they
> are still aligned exactly as I remember them.
> 
> Not saying that I don't believe you, but maybe you just have a workflow
> better suitable for whatever you prefer to use instead of Apache OpenOffice
> Writer?
> 
> 
>> What is left there in the document, in front of your eyes, is a
>> placeholder that signals something like "read error" of "graphic cannot be
>> displayed".
>> 
> 
> Maybe you inserted your images as links rather than images?
> 
> 
>> 
>> And there is no way to get information from the document about what that
>> inserted graphical object was, or where it came from.
>> 
> 
> As I said, I don't have Apache OpenOffice anymore, but I tested this now in
> LibreOffice. I inserted an image, then changed its link to something
> non-existant, and now, in the place holder, the whole path can be seen. Is
> this not true for Apache OpenOffice?
> 
> 
>> 
>> So in many respects, you have to create your document again, populating it
>> with the illustrations you want it to contain. And a day later, again
>> insert images ... ad nauseam.
>> 
> 
> Well, when I finish a document, at least if it's important, I always export
> it to PDF. Especially if I'm going to send it to people. That takes care of
> many problems, such as the receiver doesn't use the same software etc.
> Sometimes I get Word documents in my email (at work), and that annoys me a
> lot. If I'm not supposed to make changes in the document, send it as PDF,
> that's my opinion about that… 😁
> 
> 
>> 
>> When

Re: Migrating from MSO

[Lucetta]

Stick with Microsoft. 
I spent more time than I cared to sorting this out & eventually replaced 
software & older much loved hardware at an extremely awkward time. 

Not helped by a troll & disappearing & impossible to copy emails. (If you get a 
bizarre email sent to you personally through this group print it out as proof)

Still love OO but eventually...

All the best
Lucetta

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:50 AM, Stan Hendryx  wrote:
> 
> I’m evaluating migrating to OpenOffice from MSO, using a MacBook Pro with 
> Mojave, MSO Office Mac 2011. I’m new to OpenOffice. I work on documents 
> collaboratively with others who use MSO, so my edits need to be transparent 
> to them in style and layout. My first trial had serious problems. I opened a 
> .docx document in OpenOffice 4.1.7. The original document comprises multiple 
> tables, one table per section, each table being about one or two pages or so, 
> total 60 pages. When opened in OpenOffice, the font was changed from Times 
> New Roman to Calibri. The footers do not show in OpenOffice, although they 
> are listed and checked under Insert->Footer as Converted1-Converted59. The 
> text boxes were missing. The number of pages was 57 instead of the original 
> 60 (possibly due to the missing footers).  Are these problems endemic, or is 
> there a way to avoid them, have my documents look the same as in MSO?
> Advice?
> Thank you,
> Stan Hendryx
> 
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Re: Using Open office

[Lucetta]

This has been just been sent to me and I don’t understand it

Does anyone have any thoughts?



> On Feb 22, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Lucetta  wrote:
> 
> Can’t speak for you situation. However something has changed  with the base 
> code in some operating systems. It technical & outside of my computer 
> understanding. I don’t understand it, something to do with base code and 
> macros or executables, but far outside of my depth of knowledge. 
> 
> My Open Office spreadsheets created on my 2009 MacBookPros can no longer can 
> be opened with Excel. If they open it is text only & can’t be manipulated.
> 
> I am redoing all my OpenOffice spreadsheets from scratch for our accountant 
> in an old Excel which I’m hoping will work. Just don’t have time to get & 
> learn new equipment & software. 
> 
> Also my Norton went very buggy & replacement security was even worse. Not 
> sure how or if that fits in but happened at the same time. 
> 
> I’m having to replace all my computers and software. Something happened with 
> a recent update to my Mac OS but apparently it was only a matter of time. 
> 
> If anyone has any suggestion they would be much appreciated. But I’ve run out 
> of time to play around & am just heads down redoing everything. 
> 
> Lucetta
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:05 AM, David Hunt  wrote:
>> 
>> I have started using Open Office on my HP PC, with Windows 10.
>> Sadly any document I send out can be read by other windows users, but I 
>> phone and some I pads complain that all documents are scrambled or Zipped.?
>> 
>> Any suggestions please.
>> I do not have Microsoft Office any more, corrupted and Microsoft support 
>> totally unhelpful.
>> 
>> Dave  Thanks in hope.
>> 
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
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Re: Using Open office

[Lucetta]

Can’t speak for you situation. However something has changed  with the base 
code in some operating systems. It technical & outside of my computer 
understanding. I don’t understand it, something to do with base code and macros 
or executables, but far outside of my depth of knowledge. 

My Open Office spreadsheets created on my 2009 MacBookPros can no longer can be 
opened with Excel. If they open it is text only & can’t be manipulated.

I am redoing all my OpenOffice spreadsheets from scratch for our accountant in 
an old Excel which I’m hoping will work. Just don’t have time to get & learn 
new equipment & software. 

Also my Norton went very buggy & replacement security was even worse. Not sure 
how or if that fits in but happened at the same time. 

I’m having to replace all my computers and software. Something happened with a 
recent update to my Mac OS but apparently it was only a matter of time. 

If anyone has any suggestion they would be much appreciated. But I’ve run out 
of time to play around & am just heads down redoing everything. 

Lucetta



> On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:05 AM, David Hunt  wrote:
> 
> I have started using Open Office on my HP PC, with Windows 10.
> Sadly any document I send out can be read by other windows users, but I phone 
> and some I pads complain that all documents are scrambled or Zipped.?
> 
> Any suggestions please.
> I do not have Microsoft Office any more, corrupted and Microsoft support 
> totally unhelpful.
> 
> Dave  Thanks in hope.
> 
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Re: Lost File

[Lucetta]

Another low tec suggestion for the future. 

When I open a data file, any data file, I save as with the same name but the 
current date in my Documemts folder. It’s is just another process but  manual & 
glitch proof. It has come in handy several times. 

Also low tec and not sure if it will  answer you question. You can go to your 
older version highlight everything then control c, go to a new spreadsheet, 
click on top left cell and control v to paste your old copied data into your 
new blank spreadsheet. Then check to see if the formulas are still intact. If 
not manually insert them into a new inserted column or row as necessary. 

Good luck!
Lucetta





> On Aug 25, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Steven Ahlers  
> wrote:
> 
> JW,
> 
> In windows you can backtrack on your timeline to an older backup to restore 
> all files. Or you could go directly to your backups and restore that file.
> 
> Please respond to:
> users@openoffice.apache.org
> so that ALL users can assist you.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2019, at 3:36 PM, abbydakotag...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Steve. 
>> 
>> I was able to open the file by right clicking on Open Office Calc by 
>> choosing “Open With”. 
>> 
>> The file opened, but all the data is gone. Is there a way to pull the data 
>> from an older saved date and populate the spreadsheet with it?  Could it be 
>> in the Cloud?
>> 
>> JW
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Steven Ahlers  wrote:
>>> 
>>> JW,
>>> 
>>> Right click on the file, chose “Open With...”, chose “OpenOffice Calc” (you 
>>> may have to search in “More apps ⬇️”), chose “OK” it should open in Calc. 
>>> You can tick the “Always use this app to open [extension] files” box if you 
>>> only want this file type to open in Calc.
>>> 
>>> You can also accomplish this by right clicking on the file, chose 
>>> “Properties” click on “Change” and chose “OpenOffice Calc” as above.
>>> 
>>> Please respond to:
>>> users@openoffice.apache.org
>>> to let us know if you were successful or not.
>>> 
>>> Steve 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 23, 2019, at 3:58 PM, JW  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve been using Open Office for quite awhile and it seemed to be working 
>>>> well.  
>>>> 
>>>> A few weeks ago, I tried to open one of my spreadsheets and it wouldn’t 
>>>> open, my computer kept trying to open it in Excel.  Tried again today, 
>>>> same thing, so I reinstalled Open Office.
>>>> 
>>>> I am still unable to open this file.  However, I am able to open an older 
>>>> file.
>>>> 
>>>> Question:  Is there a a way to retrieve the file I’m trying to open from a 
>>>> previous save?  Or am I out of luck and it is gone forever?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you in advance for the assist.
>>>> 
>>>> JW 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> https://www.avg.com
>>>> 
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OO Spreadsheets not saving

[Lucetta]

Hi all!

Firstly I’ve been getting the emails and following the questions and answers 
and really appreciate the work done by the community. Have learnt a lot by just 
reading the digest everyday. Sadly I’m not really knowledgeable enough to 
participate much, actually once, a Mac problem more than OO



My question today is can I do anything to stop my fairly simple spreadsheets 
from not accepting changes when I save as with a new title or when I save them 
in Excel.  I always save a changed document with the current date added to the 
title. 

I only discovered this in the last week with our accountant. She would get 
gobble gook when she opened my spreadsheets. 

I resolved the issue by using another macbookpro, same in all respects but with 
Microsoft Excel 

It was still a lot of work to move everything over and check line by line. But 
I learnt a lot.
I am using a MacBookPro (27-inch,early 2009 with IS X Yosemite

2.66 GHz intel Core Duo
4GB 1067 MH z DFR3

W/ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1

This was installed in 2009 by my techie and has have no problems until very 
recently. 

I know my equipment is old but hesitate to replace until I can work out the 
issue as I love Mac products for there low electrical field and don’t want to 
switch to something else. If I have to I’d appreciate any recommendations. 

My techie suggests switching to custom build w/ ubantu

Any and all advice would be appreciated. I only get the digest so won’t be 
replying in a timely manner

Thanks in advance

Lucetta

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Re: Apache OpenOffice for Mac - Would you like to bring your software to Vietnamese users?

[Lucetta]

Agree & further no one receiving any documents has asked that they be sent in 
another format.  

> On May 4, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Howard Blum  wrote:
> 
> Some of hard-core Mac users love the product. It's gotten me out of the
> clutches of MS Office. I have been a Mac user since 1998 and you couldn't
> give me another MS product for free.
> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2018, 2:53 PM Henry Campbell,Jr. 
> wrote:
> 
>> Take me off ur email list...ur spamming me...stop already...I tell you
>> friend not to buy Apache ever ...nothing but problems
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 4, 2018, 1:03 AM Bui Phuong  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Apache Software Foundation,
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>> users.
>>> We are glad to collaborate with you to bring your app to Vietnamese
>> users,
>>> if you can add a back-link (dofollow link) to our site, so we will write
>> a
>>> full review (around 1000 words) for Apache OpenOffice for Mac (
>>> openoffice.org) and publish it on our site. It is completely free of
>>> charge
>>> during the collaboration.
>>> 
>>> How do you think about this offer?
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: Old documents.

[Lucetta]

Open OpenOffice
Go to the top bar on your screen
Click on File & hold your finger down
Scroll down to second item which is Open...
This will open an Open window
On the second bar just below the title Open you will see three icons on the 
right hand side.
Click on the first icon, a tiny file folder with an even smaller green & red 
arrows. 
This will open a /Users window probably with you name as user after the slash
In the window under this you will see Desktop
Documents
Downloads
Library
Movies
Etc
Etc
I’m not going to list all these as yours may be different
Double click on Documents to open that folder
Scroll down to find you document
Double click on your document to open 

If you can’t find your document go back to the the folder icon on the top right 
with the little green & red arrow & click again to return to the /Users/
Then click on another folder. 

Work your way through the possible choices Your file might also be in Desktop 
or where ever you automatically save your documents. 

You can also go to the bottom of the window  to File name
Enter the name of your document and click on open on the far right

You can further refine you search at the bottom of the /Users/ window with 
version:  and File type.
  I recommend you leave that at the default, All files( can’t duplicate the 
other symbols on my phone)

Good luck!





> On Apr 10, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Tony Guidotti  wrote:
> 
> How can documents be found that have been removed from the open files
> dropdown list


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Re: Lost Work

[Lucetta]

Every time I open a data file and make any changes I then save it with that 
day's date added to the title. That way you will always have multiple copies 
and can go back to an uncorrupted version if necessary. 
When I send someone a file their name in addition to the date is added. 

This is in addition to regular complete back ups of everything on my computer 
to an exterior & portable hard-drive, which is stored in a separate building. 

I like LaCie and I don't trust any version of the cloud. 

You have just reminded me I need to start another backup system for a new and 
separate technical laptop. 

Doesn't help you now but may in the future. 

Sorry you have this problem and it may be a very small comfort to know that 
most of us have worked out our sometimes very personal backup strategies after 
some catastrophic event. 

Good luck

Lucetta

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 2:31 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
>  Original Message 
> From: International Aircraft Collection 
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:42:41 +
> 
>> Helllo,
>> 
>> 
>> I just lost all my work on this page.  All my years work is now gone.
>> 
>> 
>> Pease help me restore it. Please see attached file
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> James Smith
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> Sorry to say that there is nothing in your file to restore/recover,
> because it contains nothing but 32,768 bytes of zeros. So unless you
> have a backup, your work is permanently lost.
> 
> For future reference I suggest:
> 
> 1. You save your work in ODF (*_O_*pen*_D_*ocument *_F_*ormat ISO/IEC
>26300:2006 standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODF), not the old
>MS Excel binary format.
>If an ODF file becomes corrupted there is more chance of recovery.
> 
> 2. If you don't already make backups of your important files, you
>should do so. There are numerous options for backing up computer
>files and many of them are free.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: OpenOffice doesn't work

[Lucetta]

Hi John, I've had this problem several times in the past. 

By default Apple has changed the security settings to only allow installation 
of apps from the Mac App Store and identified developers. To change this 
permanently or temporarily go to System Preferences > Security & Privacy. On 
the General Tab click the little lock in the lower left corner to unlock the 
general preference pane. Then select the Anywhere radio button beneath Allow 
applications downloaded from:

You can then change you preferences back after installing Open Office or any 
other reliable software you need. 

Good luck!

Lucetta


> On Jan 6, 2017, at 8:36 PM, John Gasaway  wrote:
> 
> I updated from MacOS Yosemite to Sierra. OpenOffice started failing to open. 
> I was running v4.0. I downloaded v4.1.2 and it won’t start. I get a dialog 
> box stating:
> 
> “OpenOffice” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
> Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the App Store 
> and identified developers.
> Safari downloaded this file today at 8:29 PM from sourceforge.net.
> 
> OpenOffice is not available from the App Store. Please help me get it running.
> 
> Sincerely,
> John Gasaway


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Re: Page numbering

[Lucetta]

Good bye Rory! Much appreciate all you advice and time spent here. You advice 
has been invaluable. 

Save journeys!

Lucetta

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> This is my last post on this thread - I have other calls on my time.  
> 
> Not knowing exactly what the OP has in his file (and, to be honest, not 
> caring very much), what I advise him to do is:
> Position cursor as first character in his file.  Press Ctrl Enter to insert a 
> page before.  Now place cursor on that page, Right click on the page style 
> shown in  the Status Bar (usually bottom bar of OO window - I am working on 
> the assumption that OO is set to standard default settings) - the page style 
> in use is probably, hopefully Default). From the popup select First Page.  
> This should change the inserted page to First Page style, and subsequent 
> pages to Default.
> 
> Now modify First Page Style to use Headers/Footer, or not, as required, and 
> insert any required content on that page (Title? Author? etc).
> 
> Modify Default page style to use Headers/Footers or not, as required.  In a 
> Header or Footer (if used) on the Default page style, insert /Fields /Page 
> Number.  Now reposition cursor at top of the second page and /Insert /Indexes 
> and Tables /Indexes and tables, selecting Table of Contents from the dropdown.
> 
> All entries in the file formatted with Heading 1 paragraph style should now 
> appear in the ToC just generated.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 
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Re: Publish A Software Users Guide for OpenOffice!

[Lucetta]

There is an OpenOffice for Dummies, mine is old, however It will still cover 
the basics. 

Lucetta

> On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:35 AM, D C  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Is it possible that you could could put together and publish a openoffice 
> software users guide (A hardcopy), that will teach people how to use the the 
> openoffice? Could you publish it in English (UK) and other languages? Please 
> get back to me as  this will be a really good product to make.
> 
> 
> thanks...


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Re: Test using wifi can a moderator please delete original message.

[Lucetta]

Thanks Dennis! It was my Daly & I'm ok with this. 

> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton  
> wrote:
> 
> Removing list posts requires IT intervention.  It is not something moderators 
> can do.
> 
> Although these may be unintended, there appears to be no harm in simply 
> leaving them in the archives.
> 
> Is that all right with you, Lucetta?
> 
> - Dennis
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Lucetta Teller [mailto:luce...@lucetta.ca]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 08:58
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Test using wifi can a moderator please delete original
>> message.
>> 
>> Sincere apologies. Mods can someone delete this please?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Maggie Butler 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why are you sending this to a public message board?
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Lucetta  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Field not as bad up in bedroom above kitchen.
>>> 
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Re: Test using wifi can a moderator please delete original message.

[Lucetta Teller]

Sincere apologies. Mods can someone delete this please?



> On Jul 2, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Maggie Butler  wrote:
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> Why are you sending this to a public message board?
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Lucetta  wrote:
>> 
>> Field not as bad up in bedroom above kitchen.
>>> 
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Re: Test using wifi

[Lucetta]

Field not as bad up in bedroom above kitchen. 

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Lawrence Ian  wrote:
> 
> No idea. Where is it?
> 
> 
>> On July 2, 2016 12:45:07 PM EDT, Lucetta  wrote:
>> Test. Strange field, how do people handle this?

Re: Test using wifi

[Lucetta]

In the dining living room. Plugged into  a outlet behind the sideboard. It can 
be unplugged from the charger? And varied around the house if the reception is 
bad in the bedroom as an example. 

Guess I'm just really really tired. 

Can't even think of going to sleep. Christine had gone over so much stuff and I 
can't remember half. 

Just had a shower & going downstairs to dry my hair. 


Mum seems just like herself but tires easily. Don't think she has even out of 
bed since she arrived at Ravenhill. Hillary and Gordon went with mum to the 
hospital. They thought she was going to die I think right in the ambulance. 

She remembered you and staying in Whistler. Pretty well every thing she did in 
Canada over the years. 

Think I'm going to be the one to break it to her she will be staying there and 
not going back home. We are playing everything by ear and going day by day 





> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Lawrence Ian  wrote:
> 
> No idea. Where is it?
> 
> 
>> On July 2, 2016 12:45:07 PM EDT, Lucetta  wrote:
>> Test. Strange field, how do people handle this?

Re: OO and OS X El Capitan 10.11.5

[Lucetta]

Much appreciated Paul! 

Lucetta

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Ranger test  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lucetta,
> 
> I have OO 4.1.2 installed and am running El Capitan without any problems. 
> 
> For OO, there are no compatibility issues with El Capitan.  HOWEVER El 
> Capitan makes countless other (often expensive software e.g. earlier versions 
> of Photoshop) software programs unworkable.
> 
> Hope this OO / El Capitan advice helps.
> 
> Paul.
> 
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 8:10 AM, Lucetta  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends, I have upgraded to OO 4.1.1 and am considering upgrading to El 
>> Capitan. Nothing at all has shown up on a search.
>> 
>> Has anyone done this successfully?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Really appreciate the efforts of everyone here. Just reading everything is a 
>> great education. 
>> 
>> Lucetta
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Re: OO and OS X El Capitan 10.11.5

[Lucetta]

Great Steve! Thank you so much for your swift reply. Much appreciated!😇

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Steve Ahlers  
> wrote:
> 
> Lucetta,
> 
> Running OO 4.1.2 on El Capitan with no issues.  Would recommend that you 
> update your printer driver after you update to El Capitan.
> 
> Steve
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Lucetta  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends, I have upgraded to OO 4.1.1 and am considering upgrading to El 
>> Capitan. Nothing at all has shown up on a search.
>> 
>> Has anyone done this successfully?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Really appreciate the efforts of everyone here. Just reading everything is a 
>> great education. 
>> 
>> Lucetta
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OO and OS X El Capitan 10.11.5

[Lucetta]

Hi friends, I have upgraded to OO 4.1.1 and am considering upgrading to El 
Capitan. Nothing at all has shown up on a search.

Has anyone done this successfully?

Thanks in advance

Really appreciate the efforts of everyone here. Just reading everything is a 
great education. 

Lucetta

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Re: side by side view

[Lucetta]

This is exactly what I do when I'm comparing SS. Works for me. 

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Julian Thomas  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 23:28, Ariya Subasingha 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Since I prefer to use Open office writer. please let me know whether there 
>> is a way to view 2 documents side by side in open office writer.
> 
> One way to do this would be to open each document in a separate window.
> 
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> O Famous Last Words #29: "It's perfectly safe. Let me show you..." 
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Re: Recovering documents

[Lucetta]

Check recent documents in the drop down menu at the top of your screen.  You 
might find it there. 

Good luck!

> On Apr 14, 2016, at 8:40 PM, John Caruso  wrote:
> 
> That has happened to me. I recovered the file by using the back arrow in the 
> browser - not gauranteed to work for everybody the same way. Sorry you're 
> having this problem.  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: R. J. Wowk 
> To: users 
> Sent: Thu, Apr 14, 2016 3:42 pm
> Subject: Recovering documents
> 
> April 14, 2016
> Hello, OF member;
> 
> I was working on a very important file.  I was in the process of using 
> the Bold command and might have pressed it and shift with a B.  Then the 
> document disappeared and a new file was opened.  So, how do i get or 
> recover the file I was working on before those keys were inadvertently, 
> very fat figures I guess, were pressed.
> 
> A very important document.  How can I prevent this when working on other 
> VIP documents?
> 
> Tks for your help and have a good day!
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Re: please

[Lucetta]

"discussion list" is a great idea!

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> 
>> On 1/27/16, John Hart  wrote:
>> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe
>> links that aren't so problem prone.
> 
> What is exactly, "the problem" and what do you propose to fix it?
> I dont see anything different in the way this mailing list works
> compared with others.
> 
> No one can help users who cannot READ the automatic notification they
> get after requesting to unsubscribe. Without this
> verification/clicking step, anybody could unsubscribe anybody else
> from the list. That's the way mailing lists work.
> 
> To me the problem seems to be people who join a mailing list without
> knowing what a mailing list is or how it works. Tha's why I suggested
> we make it clear on the subcription page that a mailing list involves,
> gee, receiving questions and answers from lots of stranges, to your
> email inbox. I even proposed changing the wording from "mailing list"
> to "discussion list"
> 
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Re: Problems installing

[Lucetta]

BTW I recently tried to force an update on my early 2009 Macbookpro running 
Yosemite 10.10.5 and ended up with a corrupted system. 

After an anxious period opened 

Disk Utility
Selected Hardrive
Verify Disk Permissions
Repair Disk Permissions

Problems solved, back on OO 4. 1. 1 and see no need for an update. 

Lucetta

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Daryl Schneider  wrote:
> 
> New update will not install. I have read the “READ ME” file and tried 
> everything I know how and still can’t get beyond what you see attached.
> 
> Running latest update of Yosemite on Macbook Pro late 2013
> 
> My system message says the version I am trying to install is not real. It 
> came from your site so how is that possible?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> M. Daryl Schneider
> 727-409-1723
> 

Re: Open Office 4 text problem

[Lucetta]

Possible the third most used shortcut. After Cmd-c & Cmd-v. Which are 
respectively copy and paste. 

A complete list for Mac can be found here with some of the differences between 
windows & Mac

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201236

Lucetta

> On Jan 21, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Julian Thomas  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 18:24, Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:
>> 
>> And yes, Ctrl+z is ”undo” in most applications and most operating systems.
> 
> Cmd Z in the Mac world.
> 
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> 
> On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], '"Pray, Mr. 
> Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers 
> come out?"'...I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of 
> ideas that could provoke such a question. -Charles Babbage 
> 
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Re: Spreadsheets

[Lucetta]

While tidying up my office recently rediscovered a manual from The TECHBOOK 
series 

Libre Office The Complete Guide $ 26,99ca. 

There are three very short chapters on Base

Create powerful databases
Build your first database
Use forms & queries

I've already found some of the other chapters useful 

HTH
Lucetta

> On Dec 23, 2015, at 3:55 PM, elderdanlewis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Dale Erwin  
> Date:12/23/2015  2:49 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Spreadsheets 
> 
>> On 12/23/2015 10:13 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
>> You have given me the information that I was looking for. Thanks!
>>I am writing a chapter, Planning/Designing your Database, for 
>> LibreOffice. Since many people use spreadsheets and shy away from 
>> databases, I wanted something to compare the two. The general 
>> conception seems to be creating databases is difficult, and creating 
>> spreadsheets is easier. I wanted to show that the basic principles for 
>> creating a database are not very different from creating a spreadsheet.
> 
> One problem I see with your premise is that with the database, after it 
> is created you have to then create some sort of application to 
> manipulate/retrieve the data.
> 
> Dale
> 
>   As with any database, a DBMS is used to give the database its structure. A 
> RDBMS is used for a relational database. I want to show that creating tables 
> is not too different than placing related data in a spreadsheet including the 
> formatting of the cells that hold the raw data. Also, location of a cell is 
> similar: column and row vs column and primary key. Of course if talking about 
> the entire spreadsheet or database,sheet or tables would also be used. 
> 
> Dan

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Re: Spreadsheets

[Lucetta]

Thanks Dan! lLoking forward to seeing your work.

Lucetta 

> On Dec 23, 2015, at 3:31 PM, elderdanlewis  wrote:
> 
> I will send you a link when I finish.
> 
> Dan
> 
>  Original message ----
> From: Lucetta  
> Date:12/23/2015  11:01 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Spreadsheets 
> 
> Hi good idea. Where would I find your writing when it is completed? I'm 
> looking for just such a manual. 
> 
> Kind regards
> Lucetta
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Dan Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>>You have given me the information that I was looking for. Thanks!
>>   I am writing a chapter, Planning/Designing your Database, for LibreOffice. 
>> Since many people use spreadsheets and shy away from databases, I wanted 
>> something to compare the two. The general conception seems to be creating 
>> databases is difficult, and creating spreadsheets is easier. I wanted to 
>> show that the basic principles for creating a database are not very 
>> different from creating a spreadsheet.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/2015 01:08 AM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23-Dec-15 03:36, elderdanlewis wrote:
>>>> Is there an equivalent in spreadsheets to relational databases?
>>> 
>>> You can use lookup values from other tabs in that sense you could compare 
>>> both, but the functionality in a spreadsheet is very limited in comparison 
>>> with a relational database.
>>> 
>>>> Or, are they all similar to flat databases?
>>> 
>>> No because in a spreadsheet you can have multiple sets of data.
>>> A flat database is limited to one set of data.
>>> 
>>>>   I am looking for similarities and differences between databases and 
>>>> spreadsheets.
>>> 
>>> This is an open ended question, could you be more specific on what you try 
>>> to achieve?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>> 
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Re: Spreadsheets

[Lucetta]

Hi good idea. Where would I find your writing when it is completed? I'm looking 
for just such a manual. 

Kind regards
Lucetta



> On Dec 23, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Dan Lewis  wrote:
> 
> You have given me the information that I was looking for. Thanks!
>I am writing a chapter, Planning/Designing your Database, for LibreOffice. 
> Since many people use spreadsheets and shy away from databases, I wanted 
> something to compare the two. The general conception seems to be creating 
> databases is difficult, and creating spreadsheets is easier. I wanted to show 
> that the basic principles for creating a database are not very different from 
> creating a spreadsheet.
> 
>> On 12/23/2015 01:08 AM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23-Dec-15 03:36, elderdanlewis wrote:
>>> Is there an equivalent in spreadsheets to relational databases?
>> 
>> You can use lookup values from other tabs in that sense you could compare 
>> both, but the functionality in a spreadsheet is very limited in comparison 
>> with a relational database.
>> 
>>> Or, are they all similar to flat databases?
>> 
>> No because in a spreadsheet you can have multiple sets of data.
>> A flat database is limited to one set of data.
>> 
>>>I am looking for similarities and differences between databases and 
>>> spreadsheets.
>> 
>> This is an open ended question, could you be more specific on what you try 
>> to achieve?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>> 
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Re: how to uninstall

[Lucetta Geller]

MacClean is excellect and approved by apple. I've used it

On August 10, 2015 1:42:48 AM EDT, Arie Fraid  
wrote:
>Hi
>
>
>please advise how to uninstall open office and advanced cleaner from my
>mac
>
>
>  B Rgds
>  Mr. Arie Fraid
>+86 15167952666
>  skype arie_fraid

Re: Question for tansfering data From old Mac to new Mac for Open office

[Lucetta Geller]

Can you go back to your old Mac, close all OpenOffice files,quit OpenOffice 
then import your documents again? 

I keep my documents backed up onto a separate USB from the routine backups to 
an exterior hard drive. That way I can easily access the files I use most in 
case of any problems.  

On August 5, 2015 4:44:08 PM EDT, Ann Coleman  
wrote:
>I have transferred Open Office data From old Mac OSX 10.5.8 to new Mac
>OSX 10.10.4.
>Now it will not let me Open the documents I have on Open Office.
>
>I get this pop-up alert:
>
>“Either another instance of Openoffice.org  is
>accessing your personal settings or your personal settings are locked.
>Simultaneous access can lead to inconsistencies in your personal
>settings. Before continuing you should make sure that user “ann” closes
>openoffice.org  on host “anns macbook
>pro.local”
>
>Do you really want to continue?
>
>Yes  or  No
>
>What should I do??
>
>Ann

Re: odt-file, ascii filter, series of pounds

[Lucetta]

I save my document files using "save as" on the drop down menu and adding the  
current date at the end of the file name whenever I open and amend a document.  
It is then easy to go back to any the earlier versions. 

There are more sophisticated methods but this is simple and relatively idiot 
proof. 

ATB
Lucetta





> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak  
> wrote:
> 
> How does a file disappear? That is an easy one. If you always save the file 
> to the same file name, and something then happens to that one file, then 
> there are no other copies.
> 
> I have seen this as follows:
> 
> Click on Save, and something goes wrong while saving, which corrupts the file 
> (say it crashing mid-write).
> 
> 
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