Re: Subscription

[Moderator]

 Original Message 
From: Nicholas Micalone [mailto:nj...@juno.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022, 23:09 UTC
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Subscription

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there another link to subscribe?
> 
> The clicking on the subscribe link provided, brings up Gmail, which I don't 
> use.
> 
> Thank you.
> Nick M.

What are you trying to subscribe to?

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see https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#basic-operations
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Subscription

[Nicholas Micalone]

Hi,

Is there another link to subscribe?

The clicking on the subscribe link provided, brings up Gmail, which I don't use.

Thank you.
Nick M.

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Re: Fw: Cancel subscription

[Wade Smart]

To cancel your subscription you'll need to pay up the
remainder of the subscription at $199.98 + tax (USD).

:D  HAHAH

You are not subscribed to the mailing list so you cant
be asking about that and this is a 100% FREE product
that anyone can download so if you paid for it - you got
taken. Just uninstall and move on.


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On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:32 PM sebastian torres
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>
> please, no more, thanks
>  Sebastian Torres
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Dillon" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:21 AM
> Subject: Cancel subscription
>
>
> I am not finding your product to be reliable or useful and wish to cancel my
> subscription.
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Fw: Cancel subscription

[sebastian torres]

please, no more, thanks
Sebastian Torres

- Original Message - 
From: "John Dillon" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:21 AM
Subject: Cancel subscription


I am not finding your product to be reliable or useful and wish to cancel my 
subscription.


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Re: Cancel subscription

[David Belina]

Whoever told  you got the idea that there is a subscription for  Open Office 
was lying to you.  Just delete it if you don’t want to use it.

Wer Ihnen gesagt hat, dass es ein Abonnement für Open Office gibt, hat Sie 
angelogen. Löschen Sie es einfach, wenn Sie es nicht verwenden möchten.


On April 16, 2020 at 2:46:34 PM, Andrea (andrea...@gmx.ch) wrote:

Am 16.04.2020 um 22:21 schrieb John Dillon:  
> I am not finding your product to be reliable or useful and wish to cancel my 
> subscription.  
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Re: Cancel subscription

[Andrea]

Am 16.04.2020 um 22:21 schrieb John Dillon:

I am not finding your product to be reliable or useful and wish to cancel my 
subscription.

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Cancel subscription

[John Dillon]

I am not finding your product to be reliable or useful and wish to cancel my 
subscription.

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Re: List subscription

[Andrea Pescetti]

Dave AOO wrote:

some members of the PMC have repeatedly resisted
my proposal for a small change in ezmlm software to reinstate the
[MODERATED] flag in the subject line.


Can you name (some of) them? Offlist is fine too, if you prefer.

I think the main issue is whether ezmlm supports the feature or not. If 
it does (i.e., your "change" above is a configuration change), I don't 
see big issues. If the "change" you mention is, instead, a code change 
requiring to run a custom version of ezmlm, I think Infra won't allow us 
to do it due to the obvious maintenance burden that comes with 
custom-built software.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: List subscription

[Hagar Delest]

Le 11/11/2018 à 07:15, Dave AOO a écrit :

On 10.11.2018 20:30, Hagar Delest wrote:

Add a filter to your mail client so that it tags the mail containing the
string "Delivered-To: moderator" in the header (without quotes).

Hagar

In the days of the OOo users mailing list this filter worked, plus the
OOo list management software had the facility to add [MODERATED] to the
subject line, making it very easy to identify and/or filter
non-subscribed posts.

The filter no longer works for clients such as Thunderbird, because they
only detect the first "Delivered-To:" header tag and the ezmlm software
used by AOO places the "Delivered-To: moderator" tag 3rd. or 4th. in the
list:

Delivered-To: 
Delivered-To: apmail-
Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.apache.org
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.apache.org

For unspecified reasons some members of the PMC have repeatedly resisted
my proposal for a small change in ezmlm software to reinstate the
[MODERATED] flag in the subject line.

Dave

I use TB 60.2.1 (64 bits) on Xubuntu and the filter does work (version from the 
distro).

Hagar

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Re: List subscription

[Wade Smart]

Did this a long long time ago.
That wasnt my point.

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On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:30 PM Hagar Delest  wrote:
>
> Le 10/11/2018 à 19:32, M Henri Day a écrit :
> > Den fre 9 nov. 2018 kl 20:48 skrev Brian Barker
> > :
> >
> >> At 15:03 07/11/2018 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:
> >>> Why can't this list block non-registered users?
> >> I'm sure it can, but I trust it won't. If the list is to provide a
> >> first level of support for beginning users, it is unfair and
> >> counterproductive to require them to go through the hoops of
> >> subscribing, confirming their subscription, and presumably
> >> unsubscribing later. In addition, the list would be swamped with
> >> confused replies to other people's enquiries that such users wrongly
> >> assume had been addressed to them individually!
> >>
> >> Let's continue to make life easy for those who ask for help, at the
> >> expense of a little more care necessary from those offering help.
> >>
> >> Brian Barker
> >
> > +1 to Brian
> >
> > Henri
> +1.
> Add a filter to your mail client so that it tags the mail containing the 
> string "Delivered-To: moderator" in the header (without quotes).
>
> Hagar
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Re: List subscription

[Dave AOO]

On 10.11.2018 20:30, Hagar Delest wrote:
> Add a filter to your mail client so that it tags the mail containing the
> string "Delivered-To: moderator" in the header (without quotes).
> 
> Hagar

In the days of the OOo users mailing list this filter worked, plus the
OOo list management software had the facility to add [MODERATED] to the
subject line, making it very easy to identify and/or filter
non-subscribed posts.

The filter no longer works for clients such as Thunderbird, because they
only detect the first "Delivered-To:" header tag and the ezmlm software
used by AOO places the "Delivered-To: moderator" tag 3rd. or 4th. in the
list:

Delivered-To: 
Delivered-To: apmail-
Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.apache.org
Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.apache.org

For unspecified reasons some members of the PMC have repeatedly resisted
my proposal for a small change in ezmlm software to reinstate the
[MODERATED] flag in the subject line.

Dave



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Re: List subscription

[David Belina]

Sorry, I meant Brian Barker i.e. no blocking!


On November 10, 2018 at 3:03:59 PM, Dbelina (dbel...@comcast.net) wrote:




I agree with wade  







>  
> On Nov 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM, mailto:delest.ha...@gmail.com)> 
> wrote:  
>  
>  
>  
> Le 10/11/2018 à 19:32, M Henri Day a écrit :  
> > Den fre 9 nov. 2018 kl 20:48 skrev Brian Barker  
> > :  
> >  
> >> At 15:03 07/11/2018 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:  
> >>> Why can't this list block non-registered users?  
> >> I'm sure it can, but I trust it won't. If the list is to provide a  
> >> first level of support for beginning users, it is unfair and  
> >> counterproductive to require them to go through the hoops of  
> >> subscribing, confirming their subscription, and presumably  
> >> unsubscribing later. In addition, the list would be swamped with  
> >> confused replies to other people's enquiries that such users wrongly  
> >> assume had been addressed to them individually!  
> >>  
> >> Let's continue to make life easy for those who ask for help, at the  
> >> expense of a little more care necessary from those offering help.  
> >>  
> >> Brian Barker  
> >  
> > +1 to Brian  
> >  
> > Henri  
> +1.  
> Add a filter to your mail client so that it tags the mail containing the 
> string "Delivered-To: moderator" in the header (without quotes).  
>  
> Hagar  
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Re: List subscription

[Dbelina]

  
  

 I agree with wade   
  

  
  

  
  
>   
> On Nov 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM,  mailto:delest.ha...@gmail.com)>  
> wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  Le 10/11/2018 à 19:32, M Henri Day a écrit :  
> >  Den fre 9 nov. 2018 kl 20:48 skrev Brian Barker  
> >   :  
> >   
> >>  At 15:03 07/11/2018 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:  
> >>>  Why can't this list block non-registered users?  
> >>  I'm sure it can, but I trust it won't. If the list is to provide a  
> >>  first level of support for beginning users, it is unfair and  
> >>  counterproductive to require them to go through the hoops of  
> >>  subscribing, confirming their subscription, and presumably  
> >>  unsubscribing later. In addition, the list would be swamped with  
> >>  confused replies to other people's enquiries that such users wrongly  
> >>  assume had been addressed to them individually!  
> >>   
> >>  Let's continue to make life easy for those who ask for help, at the  
> >>  expense of a little more care necessary from those offering help.  
> >>   
> >>  Brian Barker  
> >   
> >  +1 to Brian  
> >   
> >  Henri  
> +1.  
> Add a filter to your mail client so that it tags the mail containing the 
> string "Delivered-To: moderator" in the header (without quotes).  
>
> Hagar  
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Re: List subscription

[Hagar Delest]

Le 10/11/2018 à 19:32, M Henri Day a écrit :

Den fre 9 nov. 2018 kl 20:48 skrev Brian Barker
:


At 15:03 07/11/2018 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:

Why can't this list block non-registered users?

I'm sure it can, but I trust it won't. If the list is to provide a
first level of support for beginning users, it is unfair and
counterproductive to require them to go through the hoops of
subscribing, confirming their subscription, and presumably
unsubscribing later. In addition, the list would be swamped with
confused replies to other people's enquiries that such users wrongly
assume had been addressed to them individually!

Let's continue to make life easy for those who ask for help, at the
expense of a little more care necessary from those offering help.

Brian Barker


+1 to Brian

Henri

+1.
Add a filter to your mail client so that it tags the mail containing the string 
"Delivered-To: moderator" in the header (without quotes).

Hagar

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Re: List subscription (was: TOO MANY CRASHES, ...)

[M Henri Day]

Den fre 9 nov. 2018 kl 20:48 skrev Brian Barker
:

> At 15:03 07/11/2018 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:
> >Why can't this list block non-registered users?
>
> I'm sure it can, but I trust it won't. If the list is to provide a
> first level of support for beginning users, it is unfair and
> counterproductive to require them to go through the hoops of
> subscribing, confirming their subscription, and presumably
> unsubscribing later. In addition, the list would be swamped with
> confused replies to other people's enquiries that such users wrongly
> assume had been addressed to them individually!
>
> Let's continue to make life easy for those who ask for help, at the
> expense of a little more care necessary from those offering help.
>
> Brian Barker


+1 to Brian

Henri

Re: List subscription (was: TOO MANY CRASHES, ...)

[Brian Barker]

At 15:03 07/11/2018 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:

Why can't this list block non-registered users?


I'm sure it can, but I trust it won't. If the list is to provide a 
first level of support for beginning users, it is unfair and 
counterproductive to require them to go through the hoops of 
subscribing, confirming their subscription, and presumably 
unsubscribing later. In addition, the list would be swamped with 
confused replies to other people's enquiries that such users wrongly 
assume had been addressed to them individually!


Let's continue to make life easy for those who ask for help, at the 
expense of a little more care necessary from those offering help.


Brian Barker  



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Re: Cancel subscription

[Linda Hull]

Might we want to offer also that Apache Open Office is very versatile and
if you like something about a Template but not other parts, you can change
and customize, create to suit!  And save it as yours.


Linda

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:

> Hi Tera,
>
> I'm not sure that you are subscribed to this list, so I'm including you
> explicitly.
>
> Your issue might be a corrupted version of OO, or a template that comes
> from a commercial company not affiliated with OO, or a (cloud storage?)
> system also not affiliated with OO.
>
> Identifying the URL from where you downloaded OO and the URL from where
> you downloaded the template will help us help you.
>
> Please let us know if you need any more to resolve this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
> > On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Alan Pearce 
> wrote:
> >
> > You mentioned that it happened when you came to save your work.,could it
> be that you were being offered some form of cloud storage which maybe
> chargeable?
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Catalan Bird Tours 
> > Date: 12/06/2018  17:30  (GMT+00:00)
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Cancel subscription
> >
> > Tera
> >
> > Listen to them.  OO is free.  I'm just a consumer like you and I've never
> > paid anything.
> >
> > Whether you realise it or not, you "accessed" Apache via an untrusted
> > source.  Whoever it was conned you into paying.  Retrace your steps and
> try
> > to contact them again for, eg your money back.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Stephen Christopher
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Tera Blink  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Craig...I am not confused.  When I accessed Apache for resume
> templates...
> >> when I started to use the template I was told in order to save it,
> download
> >> it, etc... there was a 2 week free trial and then a charge for the
> service.
> >> Tera
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:20 AM, Craig Russell <
> apache@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Tera Blink,
> >>
> >> I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a
> >> commercial company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..
> >>
> >> Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no
> >> charges whatever.
> >>
> >> https://www.openoffice.org/download/
> >>
> >> Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using
> the
> >> software.
> >>
> >> You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your
> >> subscription to be canceled.
> >>
> >> And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on
> >> using the features of Apache OpenOffice.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I
> >> could try out your resume templates.
> >>> Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a
> >> resume app that suited my needs.
> >>>
> >>> Kindest Regards,
> >>> Tera Blink
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>>
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> c...@apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>
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Re: Cancel subscription

[Craig Russell]

Hi Tera,

I'm not sure that you are subscribed to this list, so I'm including you 
explicitly.

Your issue might be a corrupted version of OO, or a template that comes from a 
commercial company not affiliated with OO, or a (cloud storage?) system also 
not affiliated with OO. 

Identifying the URL from where you downloaded OO and the URL from where you 
downloaded the template will help us help you.

Please let us know if you need any more to resolve this.

Regards,

Craig

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Alan Pearce  wrote:
> 
> You mentioned that it happened when you came to save your work.,could it be 
> that you were being offered some form of cloud storage which maybe chargeable?
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Catalan Bird Tours  
> Date: 12/06/2018  17:30  (GMT+00:00) 
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Cancel subscription 
> 
> Tera
> 
> Listen to them.  OO is free.  I'm just a consumer like you and I've never
> paid anything.
> 
> Whether you realise it or not, you "accessed" Apache via an untrusted
> source.  Whoever it was conned you into paying.  Retrace your steps and try
> to contact them again for, eg your money back.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Stephen Christopher
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Tera Blink 
> wrote:
> 
>> Craig...I am not confused.  When I accessed Apache for resume templates...
>> when I started to use the template I was told in order to save it, download
>> it, etc... there was a 2 week free trial and then a charge for the service.
>> Tera
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:20 AM, Craig Russell 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tera Blink,
>> 
>> I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a
>> commercial company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..
>> 
>> Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no
>> charges whatever.
>> 
>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/
>> 
>> Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using the
>> software.
>> 
>> You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your
>> subscription to be canceled.
>> 
>> And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on
>> using the features of Apache OpenOffice.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I
>> could try out your resume templates.
>>> Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a
>> resume app that suited my needs.
>>> 
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>> Tera Blink
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> c...@apache.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
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Re: Cancel subscription

[Alan Pearce]

You mentioned that it happened when you came to save your work.,could it be 
that you were being offered some form of cloud storage which maybe chargeable?

 Original message 
From: Catalan Bird Tours  
Date: 12/06/2018  17:30  (GMT+00:00) 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Cancel subscription 

Tera

Listen to them.  OO is free.  I'm just a consumer like you and I've never
paid anything.

Whether you realise it or not, you "accessed" Apache via an untrusted
source.  Whoever it was conned you into paying.  Retrace your steps and try
to contact them again for, eg your money back.

All the best

Stephen Christopher


On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Tera Blink 
wrote:

> Craig...I am not confused.  When I accessed Apache for resume templates...
> when I started to use the template I was told in order to save it, download
> it, etc... there was a 2 week free trial and then a charge for the service.
> Tera
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:20 AM, Craig Russell 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tera Blink,
>
> I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a
> commercial company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..
>
> Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no
> charges whatever.
>
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/
>
> Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using the
> software.
>
> You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your
> subscription to be canceled.
>
> And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on
> using the features of Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
> > On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I
> could try out your resume templates.
> > Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a
> resume app that suited my needs.
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> > Tera Blink
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>
>
>
>

Re: Cancel subscription

[Catalan Bird Tours]

Tera

Listen to them.  OO is free.  I'm just a consumer like you and I've never
paid anything.

Whether you realise it or not, you "accessed" Apache via an untrusted
source.  Whoever it was conned you into paying.  Retrace your steps and try
to contact them again for, eg your money back.

All the best

Stephen Christopher


On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Tera Blink 
wrote:

> Craig...I am not confused.  When I accessed Apache for resume templates...
> when I started to use the template I was told in order to save it, download
> it, etc... there was a 2 week free trial and then a charge for the service.
> Tera
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:20 AM, Craig Russell 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tera Blink,
>
> I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a
> commercial company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..
>
> Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no
> charges whatever.
>
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/
>
> Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using the
> software.
>
> You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your
> subscription to be canceled.
>
> And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on
> using the features of Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
> > On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I
> could try out your resume templates.
> > Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a
> resume app that suited my needs.
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> > Tera Blink
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>
>
>
>

Re: Cancel subscription

[Tera Blink]

Craig...I am not confused.  When I accessed Apache for resume templates... when 
I started to use the template I was told in order to save it, download it, 
etc... there was a 2 week free trial and then a charge for the service.
Tera


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On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:20 AM, Craig Russell  wrote:

Hi Tera Blink,

I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a commercial 
company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..

Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no charges 
whatever.

https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using the 
software.

You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your subscription 
to be canceled.

And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on using the 
features of Apache OpenOffice.

Regards,

Craig

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I could 
> try out your resume templates.
> Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a 
> resume app that suited my needs.
> 
> Kindest Regards,
> Tera Blink
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org

Re: Cancel subscription

[Craig Russell]

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Tera Blink  wrote:
> 
> Craig...
> I am not confused.  When I accessed Apache for resume templates... when I 
> started to use the template I was told in order to save it, download it, 
> etc... there was a 2 week free trial and then a charge for the service.

Methinks you were scammed. Where did you download the software?

Craig
> 
> Tera
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
> 
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:20 AM, Craig Russell  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tera Blink,
> 
> I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a 
> commercial company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..
> 
> Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no 
> charges whatever.
> 
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/ <https://www.openoffice.org/download/>
> 
> Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using the 
> software.
> 
> You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your 
> subscription to be canceled.
> 
> And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on using 
> the features of Apache OpenOffice.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Craig
> 
> > On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink  > <mailto:terabl...@yahoo.com.INVALID>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I could 
> > try out your resume templates.
> > Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a 
> > resume app that suited my needs.
> > 
> > Kindest Regards,
> > Tera Blink
> > 
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> > 
> 
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org <mailto:c...@apache.org>

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
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Re: Cancel subscription

[Craig Russell]

Hi Tera Blink,

I'm afraid you have confused the OpenOffice project at Apache with a commercial 
company that is *not* affiliated with Apache OpenOffice..

Apache OpenOffice can always be downloaded and used *for free* with no charges 
whatever.

https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Apache OpenOffice will *never* charge anyone for downloading or using the 
software.

You should contact whoever sold you a free trial and ask for your subscription 
to be canceled.

And you can always ask on this list for specific advice *for free* on using the 
features of Apache OpenOffice.

Regards,

Craig

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I could 
> try out your resume templates.
> Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a 
> resume app that suited my needs.
> 
> Kindest Regards,
> Tera Blink
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org


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Re: Cancel subscription

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Please let us know where you signed up for a two week trial. This seems to be a 
shady deal not approved by the Apache OpenOffice project.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Tera Blink  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I could 
> try out your resume templates.
> Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a 
> resume app that suited my needs.
> 
> Kindest Regards,
> Tera Blink
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 


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Re: Cancel subscription

[Wade Smart]

Tera, not sure where you did it but the templates are always free all the time.
As are ALL the features.

Here is one of many that are available. Just download and use.

https://templates.openoffice.org/en/template/openoffice-resume-template
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>
> I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I could 
> try out your resume templates.
> Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a 
> resume app that suited my needs.
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Tera Blink
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Cancel subscription

[Tera Blink]

Hello,

I signed up for your 2 week free trial of the “office” features so I could try 
out your resume templates.
Please cancel my subscription effective immediately as I did not find a resume 
app that suited my needs.

Kindest Regards,
Tera Blink

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: Testing Subscription

[Andrea]

Am 03.05.2018 um 20:32 schrieb Dave AOO:

On 03.05.2018 19:21, Andrea wrote:


Sending a mail to a...@tasit.net ends in

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Strange, messages from this list are now coming through OK. I asked 3
colleges with different mail servers to send test emails and none of
them reported a similar issue.

Thanks & Regards
Dave


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Re: Testing Subscription

[Dave AOO]

Hi Mattthias,

Yes, thank you for responding. It must have been a couple of quiet list
days after I resubscribed under a new address.

BTW. Earlier today I posted a couple of messages on a related issue to
the PMC private list. If my request is not already being actioned would
you be kind enough to bring my request to the attention of the
appropriate member(s) of the PMC.

Thanks & Kind Regards
Dave

On 03.05.2018 19:01, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Does this come through? ;-)
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>
> Am 03.05.2018 um 17:51 schrieb Dave AOO:
>> I have tried to subscribe to this list, but received no posts.
>>
>>
>>

Re: Testing Subscription

[Andrea]

Am 03.05.2018 um 20:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Dave,

Does this come through? ;-)

Regards,

    Matthias


Am 03.05.2018 um 17:51 schrieb Dave AOO:

I have tried to subscribe to this list, but received no posts.








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Re: Testing Subscription

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Does this come through? ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 03.05.2018 um 17:51 schrieb Dave AOO:
> I have tried to subscribe to this list, but received no posts.
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>
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Testing Subscription

[Dave AOO]

I have tried to subscribe to this list, but received no posts.

Re: Subscription

[Isaac Schrader]

Open office is free forever. However It is not a smart idea to post your phone 
number on here.

From: Maurice Howe <mauriceh...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 4:46:42 AM
To: Apache OpenOffice; Diane Posell
Subject: Re: Subscription

Diane, in your last line, you've given your phone # to the entire world!!!
That's like painting it on the Empire State Bldg.  Not a good idea.
Recommend you (a) get rid of that UserID​ and (b) change your phone # NOW!!

Maurice Howe


On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Diane Posell <dianepos...@yahoo.com.invalid
> wrote:

> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that
> is correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started
> using it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that
> I have a 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print
> area that isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal"
> from a little tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know
> what made it change but the format changed to small type and a very large
> sheet and my section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as
> Excel, once I understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but
> nothing sounded like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to
> help me through it?  Will the Help Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed
> up on September 21, 2017.Jean posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

Re: Subscription

[Maurice Howe]

Diane, in your last line, you've given your phone # to the entire world!!!
That's like painting it on the Empire State Bldg.  Not a good idea.
Recommend you (a) get rid of that UserID​ and (b) change your phone # NOW!!

Maurice Howe


On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Diane Posell  wrote:

> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that
> is correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started
> using it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that
> I have a 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print
> area that isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal"
> from a little tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know
> what made it change but the format changed to small type and a very large
> sheet and my section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as
> Excel, once I understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but
> nothing sounded like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to
> help me through it?  Will the Help Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed
> up on September 21, 2017.Jean posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

Re: Subscription

[zahra a]

hi.
Is OpenOffice really free for any user?
OpenOffice is free for use by everybody. You may take this copy of
OpenOffice and install it on as many computers as you like, and use it
for any purpose you like (including commercial, government, public
administration and educational use). For further details see the
license text delivered together with OpenOffice or
http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
Why is OpenOffice free for any user?
You can use this copy of OpenOffice today free of charge because
individual contributors and corporate sponsors have designed,
developed, tested, translated, documented, supported, marketed, and
helped in many other ways to make OpenOffice what it is today - the
world's leading open-source office software.
If you appreciate their efforts, and would like to ensure Apache
OpenOffice continues into the future, please consider contributing to
the project - see http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html for
details on contributing time and
http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html for details on
donations. Everyone has a contribution to make.
hope that help, God bless you all.

On 9/23/17, JD  wrote:
>
> On 09/22/2017 07:13 PM, James Knott wrote:
>> On 09/22/2017 07:16 PM, Diane Posell wrote:
>>> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that
>>> is correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started
>>> using it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said
>>> that I have a 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight
>>> a print area that isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to
>>> "normal" from a little tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I
>>> don't know what made it change but the format changed to small type and a
>>> very large sheet and my section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to
>>> navigate as Excel, once I understand all of the commands.  I tried to
>>> find help, but nothing sounded like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for
>>> a technician to help me through it?  Will the Help Agent be of assistance
>>> ?  I was signed up on September 21, 2017.Jean
>>> posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com
>> I'm not sure what they gave you or what the trial version is, but
>> OpenOffice is a free office suite that you can install and use on as
>> many computers as you wish, at absolutely no charge.  You can download
>> it for free from www.openoffice.org.
> To be exact, the download page is:
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
>
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Re: Subscription

[JD]

On 09/22/2017 07:13 PM, James Knott wrote:

On 09/22/2017 07:16 PM, Diane Posell wrote:

HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that is correct and 
if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started using it and find it a little 
difficult to navigate.  The screen said that I have a 14 day trial version.I need to 
figure out how to highlight a print area that isn't an entire sheet and to get my 
worksheet back to "normal" from a little tiny schedule in the upper left hand 
corner.  I don't know what made it change but the format changed to small type and a very 
large sheet and my section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as Excel, 
once I understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but nothing sounded like 
what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to help me through it?  Will the Help 
Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed up on September 21, 2017.Jean 
posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

I'm not sure what they gave you or what the trial version is, but
OpenOffice is a free office suite that you can install and use on as
many computers as you wish, at absolutely no charge.  You can download
it for free from www.openoffice.org.

To be exact, the download page is:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html


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Re: Subscription

[James Knott]

On 09/22/2017 07:16 PM, Diane Posell wrote:
> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that is 
> correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started using 
> it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that I have a 
> 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print area that 
> isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal" from a little 
> tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know what made it 
> change but the format changed to small type and a very large sheet and my 
> section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as Excel, once I 
> understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but nothing sounded 
> like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to help me through it? 
>  Will the Help Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed up on September 21, 
> 2017.Jean posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

I'm not sure what they gave you or what the trial version is, but
OpenOffice is a free office suite that you can install and use on as
many computers as you wish, at absolutely no charge.  You can download
it for free from www.openoffice.org.


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Re: Subscription

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Apache OpenOffice is free forever. We do not release trial versions.

You should always download the latest free version from 
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

You get help by asking on this email list or from the community at 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Diane Posell  
> wrote:
> 
> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that is 
> correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started using 
> it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that I have a 
> 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print area that 
> isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal" from a little 
> tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know what made it 
> change but the format changed to small type and a very large sheet and my 
> section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as Excel, once I 
> understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but nothing sounded 
> like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to help me through it? 
>  Will the Help Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed up on September 21, 
> 2017.Jean posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

Subscription

[Diane Posell]

HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that is 
correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started using it 
and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that I have a 14 
day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print area that isn't 
an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal" from a little tiny 
schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know what made it change but 
the format changed to small type and a very large sheet and my section is tiny. 
 I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as Excel, once I understand all of the 
commands.  I tried to find help, but nothing sounded like what I needed.  Do I 
have to pay for a technician to help me through it?  Will the Help Agent be of 
assistance ?  I was signed up on September 21, 2017.Jean 
posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

Subscription

[Logan Hamm]

I have open office on my laptop because my stepfather downloaded it on my
laptop around August 2015. I renewed it one time a couple months ago for
$10 and did not do it again. For some reason I have been charged $10.69
twice this month and I am not sure why. I would appreciate your help on
this matter thank you.

Logan Hamm

Re: Subscription

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:40:00 -0500
Logan Hamm <loganhamm1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have open office on my laptop because my stepfather downloaded it on my
> laptop around August 2015. I renewed it one time a couple months ago for
> $10 and did not do it again. For some reason I have been charged $10.69
> twice this month and I am not sure why. I would appreciate your help on
> this matter thank you.
> 
> Logan Hamm

OpenOffice is a free download, with no subscription.  Because OO is opensource 
many sites manipulate search engines so that they come high on the hit list, 
and compile OO with unwanted add-ons or charge for it with spurious offers of 
support.

It is possible your stepfather downloaded from such a rogue site, which is 
nothing to do with the OpenOffice project.

I suggest you remove the existing print of OpenOffice, run indepth Malware and 
antivirus scans, then follow my suggestions below.

OpenOffice should be downloaded _only_ from
http://www.openoffice.org/download

This site will redirect you to a SourceForge site and your download will start 
in about five seconds with no need to click on anything else (Do NOT click on 
anything else).

One can verify that the downloaded file is as it left the code factory by the 
methods described in
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

When you install, you will be asked to enter your name and initials.  This is 
only for internal use on your computer to identify you from other users on the 
same computer (such as other family members). This information is not (repeat: 
NOT) transmitted  outside of your computer.

We recommend downloading only from the above site.


-- 
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RE: Subscription

[Coll-Barth, Michael]

You do know that you can download and install this for free.  Kill that 
subscription thing and get it directly from; https://www.openoffice.org/.  As 
for the charges you are incurring, I have no idea who is charging you.  It 
isn't 'official'.

-Original Message-
From: Logan Hamm [mailto:loganhamm1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:40 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Subscription

I have open office on my laptop because my stepfather downloaded it on my 
laptop around August 2015. I renewed it one time a couple months ago for
$10 and did not do it again. For some reason I have been charged $10.69 twice 
this month and I am not sure why. I would appreciate your help on this matter 
thank you.

Logan Hamm

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Re: Subscription

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:22 PM, toki  wrote:

> Regardless, since Apache Open Office is distributed gratis, it wouldn't
> be charging you for a license.
>
> jonathon
>

Are we considering the slight chance that this might be a case of a
customer running RollAp service on some kind of tablet and it's that this
service which is billed?.

I don't know if RollApp changed the "about box" in any way, so customer
"sees" the "Open office" running on his/her "tablet", and assumes it was
"installed there" when in fact the app is running on the cloud, and what is
installed on the tablet is just the launcher.

Just thinking aloud.
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Re: Subscription

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On 06/01/2016 18:40, Logan Hamm wrote:
> For some reason I have been charged $10.69 twice this month and I am n
ot sure why.

Contact the organization(s) that is/are billing you, using their
designated contact point. (My recommendation would be to also use FedEx
Next AM delivery.)

Your financial institution is able to provide the name of the
organization, and their street address, for each charge made on your
account. Your financial institution might charge a fee for providing
that information to you.

Regardless, since Apache Open Office is distributed gratis, it wouldn't
be charging you for a license.

jonathon




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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[upscope]

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:50:58 PM James Knott wrote:
 upscope wrote:
  Another area I found to be a real pain on most mailing lists. To
  unsubscribe you must do it from the address you originally scribed
  from.
  
  That means you have to it before you change ISP's. I ran into this
  when I moved 250 miles from my old ISP. Not knowing new ISP at that
  time, I could not log on and change addresses and could not
  unsubscribe old address. Old location was DSL, new one was  100
  Mbit/s fiber optic.
 Just resubscribe from your new address.  When the old account is
 closed, the messages will be rejected and the list should then stop
 sending to that old address.
 
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Thanks I'll try that.
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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[upscope]

On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:12:06 PM Tom Panfil wrote:
[snip]
 Hello OpenOffice Apache Moderators,
 
 I don't want to unsubscribe from any of the three project lists to
 which I subscribe (users, dev, api)  but like you,  I've seen too
 many requests sent to the lists from people who want to unsubscribe. 
 I assume that something is finally done administratively to
 unsubscribe their addresses since they eventually stop pestering.
 
 Many people who are members of ACM or IEEE or other professional
 associations register using a Remailer Address serviced by the
 organization.  The use of a Remailer Address enables provision of at
[/snip]

Another area I found to be a real pain on most mailing lists. To 
unsubscribe you must do it from the address you originally scribed from.

That means you have to it before you change ISP's. I ran into this when 
I moved 250 miles from my old ISP. Not knowing new ISP at that time, I 
could not log on and change addresses and could not unsubscribe old 
address. Old location was DSL, new one was  100 Mbit/s fiber optic.

be nice if you could specify old log-in address in the unsubscribe 
message. 

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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[James Knott]

upscope wrote:
 Another area I found to be a real pain on most mailing lists. To 
 unsubscribe you must do it from the address you originally scribed from.

 That means you have to it before you change ISP's. I ran into this when 
 I moved 250 miles from my old ISP. Not knowing new ISP at that time, I 
 could not log on and change addresses and could not unsubscribe old 
 address. Old location was DSL, new one was  100 Mbit/s fiber optic.

Just resubscribe from your new address.  When the old account is closed,
the messages will be rejected and the list should then stop sending to
that old address.

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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Tom Panfil tap.h...@verizon.net wrote:

 These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses.


They do, if they use GMail SMTP servers which allow setting up aliases
for sending email.

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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Tom Panfil tap.h...@verizon.net wrote:

 These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses.


 They do, if they use GMail SMTP servers which allow setting up aliases
 for sending email.


And remember, Moderators are generally happy to help users unsubscribe
if they run into actual technical difficulties.  One way they can
indicate they are running into problems would be to send a note that
says something like:

1) I tried to unsubscribe

2) Here is the command I sent

3) Here is the error message I received back

-Rob

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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

On 03/11/2014 12:54 AM, Tubular wrote:


Back to OO - your explanation made sense until I saw the inability to 
send from the remailer subscribed email address.  When I subscribed to 
the list, I didn't have options . . . clicked the link and I was added.


I have had it happen, but it is an unusual case not likely seen by a 
normal user. It had to do with a custom server being improperly 
configured and then later the incorrect user names being fixed. Based on 
who owned the email domain, emails subscribed with a specific email 
address (different name) continued to be received properly, but it was 
no longer possible to use that name for outgoing email. Odd case.



What does v/r mean?


Very Respectfully



What does IMHO mean?


In My Humble Opinion



Just saw someone is requesting a change of email address - doesn't 
that require unsubscribing from the original email address then 
re-subscribing with the new one?  Darn, I just opened another can of 
worms.


I believe you to be correct.


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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[Tubular]

Thank you, Tom for the insight; however, if these people cannot send 
email from these type of email addresses, how did they get on the list 
to start with?




Tom Panfil wrote:

Hello OpenOffice Apache Moderators,

I don't want to unsubscribe from any of the three project lists to 
which I subscribe (users, dev, api)  but like you,  I've seen too many 
requests sent to the lists from people who want to unsubscribe.  I 
assume that something is finally done administratively to unsubscribe 
their addresses since they eventually stop pestering.


Many people who are members of ACM or IEEE or other professional 
associations register using a Remailer Address serviced by the 
organization.  The use of a Remailer Address enables provision of at 
least the following services by the organization:


 * Virus scanning of mail sent to the member's Remailer Address
 * Quarantining of S--- sent to the member's Remailer Address  --
   Note that I did not use the S-Word since using it might cause
   Verizon refuse to send the message considering it to be S.
 * Forwarding of non-infected non-S--- messages to the member's ISP
   provided addresses.
 * Ease of changing of ISPs by simply registering a new ISP supplied
   e-mail address with the Remailer Service so that mail sent to the
   Remailer address is forwarded to the member's new current ISP
   provided address.  Correspondents need not be informed of the change
   of ISP.

These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses.  They can 
and usually do include their preferred Remailer Address in the 
Reply-To field of their message headers.  Their e-mail messages are 
sent from their ISP provided addresses.


So, I think that a significant proportion of those who send to the 
list asking to be removed have tried sending to the address in the 
footer of the messages and were not removed from the list since they 
are subscribed with a Remailer Address.  That address from which they 
are send is different from the address which is subscribed


I recommend that some mechanism be established for such subscribers to 
take action to be removed from OpenOffice Apache lists.  The 
instructions they need should be provided in the footer with the other 
three instructions.


I can't imagine that *no* developers and maintainers of OpenOffice 
know of Remailer Addresses.  How could this problem have festered so 
long?   Does the project cadre really not know about Remailer 
Addresses?   If you can maintain Apache projects you must be able to 
understand this dilemma now that I have explained it somewhat clearly, 
I think.


Note that I am subscribed via an IEEE Remailer address.

I'd no doubt have the same problem which these other poor souls have 
if I'd try to unsubscribe.






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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[Tom Panfil]

Hi Tubular,

Well, I just inspected headers and see that I had fooled myself. My 
original subscription request was:


Subject:   Subscribe to OpenOffice Users Mailing List
Body:   Hello, Subscribe tapan...@ieee.org

My reply to the confirm subscribe to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org  was:

Subject:   Confirm Subscription to ooo-user Mailing List
Body:   Hi, I do want to subscribe to the ooo-users mailing list,
   BUT I would prefer that my mail be set to my 
Reply-To Address: tapan...@ieee.org

   Rather than to my From Address: tap.h...@verizon.net

The resulting WELCOME message said in part:

 Acknowledgment: I have added the address
tap.h...@verizon.net
  to the ooo-users mailing list.
  Welcome to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org!
  Please save this message so that you know the address you are
  subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or change 
your

  subscription address.

So, my attempt to con the list server to use my IEEE Remailer address 
failed.


It looks like people are not allowed to subscribe via their preferred 
remailer addresses.


You must have actually been seeing people writing from ISP supplied 
addresses other than the ISP provided addresses from which they subscribed.


You must be right -- Maybe some others have been under the same 
misconception which I just aired.  Maybe this will help them.


v/r,

Tom

On 3/10/14 10:57 PM, Tubular wrote:
Thank you, Tom for the insight; however, if these people cannot send 
email from these type of email addresses, how did they get on the list 
to start with?




Tom Panfil wrote:

Hello OpenOffice Apache Moderators,

I don't want to unsubscribe from any of the three project lists to 
which I subscribe (users, dev, api)  but like you,  I've seen too 
many requests sent to the lists from people who want to unsubscribe.  
I assume that something is finally done administratively to 
unsubscribe their addresses since they eventually stop pestering.


Many people who are members of ACM or IEEE or other professional 
associations register using a Remailer Address serviced by the 
organization.  The use of a Remailer Address enables provision of at 
least the following services by the organization:


 * Virus scanning of mail sent to the member's Remailer Address
 * Quarantining of S--- sent to the member's Remailer Address --
   Note that I did not use the S-Word since using it might cause
   Verizon refuse to send the message considering it to be S.
 * Forwarding of non-infected non-S--- messages to the member's ISP
   provided addresses.
 * Ease of changing of ISPs by simply registering a new ISP supplied
   e-mail address with the Remailer Service so that mail sent to the
   Remailer address is forwarded to the member's new current ISP
   provided address.  Correspondents need not be informed of the change
   of ISP.

These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses.  They can 
and usually do include their preferred Remailer Address in the 
Reply-To field of their message headers.  Their e-mail messages are 
sent from their ISP provided addresses.


So, I think that a significant proportion of those who send to the 
list asking to be removed have tried sending to the address in the 
footer of the messages and were not removed from the list since they 
are subscribed with a Remailer Address.  That address from which they 
are send is different from the address which is subscribed


I recommend that some mechanism be established for such subscribers 
to take action to be removed from OpenOffice Apache lists.  The 
instructions they need should be provided in the footer with the 
other three instructions.


I can't imagine that *no* developers and maintainers of OpenOffice 
know of Remailer Addresses.  How could this problem have festered so 
long?   Does the project cadre really not know about Remailer 
Addresses?   If you can maintain Apache projects you must be able to 
understand this dilemma now that I have explained it somewhat 
clearly, I think.


Note that I am subscribed via an IEEE Remailer address.

I'd no doubt have the same problem which these other poor souls have 
if I'd try to unsubscribe.






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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[James Plante]

FYI, I get many messages from this list that do not have the unsubscribe 
footer. Don't know what's up with that, and since I don't want to unsubscribe, 
I don't care. 

Thought you might find the info handy for troubleshooting.

Jim 

On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:42 PM, Tom Panfil tap.h...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi Tubular,
 
 Well, I just inspected headers and see that I had fooled myself. My original 
 subscription request was:
 
Subject:   Subscribe to OpenOffice Users Mailing List
Body:   Hello, Subscribe tapan...@ieee.org
 
 My reply to the confirm subscribe to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org  was:
 
Subject:   Confirm Subscription to ooo-user Mailing List
Body:   Hi, I do want to subscribe to the ooo-users mailing list,
   BUT I would prefer that my mail be set to my Reply-To 
 Address: tapan...@ieee.org
   Rather than to my From Address: tap.h...@verizon.net
 
 The resulting WELCOME message said in part:
 
 Acknowledgment: I have added the address
tap.h...@verizon.net
  to the ooo-users mailing list.
  Welcome to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org!
  Please save this message so that you know the address you are
  subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or change your
  subscription address.
 
 So, my attempt to con the list server to use my IEEE Remailer address failed.
 
 It looks like people are not allowed to subscribe via their preferred 
 remailer addresses.
 
 You must have actually been seeing people writing from ISP supplied addresses 
 other than the ISP provided addresses from which they subscribed.
 
 You must be right -- Maybe some others have been under the same misconception 
 which I just aired.  Maybe this will help them.
 
 v/r,
 
 Tom
 
 On 3/10/14 10:57 PM, Tubular wrote:
 Thank you, Tom for the insight; however, if these people cannot send email 
 from these type of email addresses, how did they get on the list to start 
 with?
 
 
 
 Tom Panfil wrote:
 Hello OpenOffice Apache Moderators,
 
 I don't want to unsubscribe from any of the three project lists to which I 
 subscribe (users, dev, api)  but like you,  I've seen too many requests 
 sent to the lists from people who want to unsubscribe.  I assume that 
 something is finally done administratively to unsubscribe their addresses 
 since they eventually stop pestering.
 
 Many people who are members of ACM or IEEE or other professional 
 associations register using a Remailer Address serviced by the 
 organization.  The use of a Remailer Address enables provision of at least 
 the following services by the organization:
 
 * Virus scanning of mail sent to the member's Remailer Address
 * Quarantining of S--- sent to the member's Remailer Address --
   Note that I did not use the S-Word since using it might cause
   Verizon refuse to send the message considering it to be S.
 * Forwarding of non-infected non-S--- messages to the member's ISP
   provided addresses.
 * Ease of changing of ISPs by simply registering a new ISP supplied
   e-mail address with the Remailer Service so that mail sent to the
   Remailer address is forwarded to the member's new current ISP
   provided address.  Correspondents need not be informed of the change
   of ISP.
 
 These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses.  They can and 
 usually do include their preferred Remailer Address in the Reply-To field 
 of their message headers.  Their e-mail messages are sent from their ISP 
 provided addresses.
 
 So, I think that a significant proportion of those who send to the list 
 asking to be removed have tried sending to the address in the footer of the 
 messages and were not removed from the list since they are subscribed with 
 a Remailer Address.  That address from which they are send is different 
 from the address which is subscribed
 
 I recommend that some mechanism be established for such subscribers to take 
 action to be removed from OpenOffice Apache lists.  The instructions they 
 need should be provided in the footer with the other three instructions.
 
 I can't imagine that *no* developers and maintainers of OpenOffice know of 
 Remailer Addresses.  How could this problem have festered so long?   Does 
 the project cadre really not know about Remailer Addresses?   If you can 
 maintain Apache projects you must be able to understand this dilemma now 
 that I have explained it somewhat clearly, I think.
 
 Note that I am subscribed via an IEEE Remailer address.
 
 I'd no doubt have the same problem which these other poor souls have if I'd 
 try to unsubscribe.
 
 
 
 
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