RE: [users] Calc changes in v2.2 OOo for Windows

[Kirill S. Palagin]

You are right - this is bug and it is regression from 2.1.
Here is bug report
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74740.
I strongly suggest voting for the issue so that it gets fixed ASAP.

Regards,
K. Palagin. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Glenn Skitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:56 PM
> To: users@openoffice.org
> Subject: [users] Calc changes in v2.2 OOo for Windows
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I am using version 2.2 of OpenOffice in Windows XP 
> sp2+updates.  Unfortunately I cannot find an adequate avenue 
> for submitting what may be a bug, and I haven't been able to 
> find it in a FAQ.
> 
>  
> 
> Anyway, here is the issue.  I just upgraded from v2.1 to 2.2, 
> and use Calc everyday to generate an excel File that has no 
> formulas or macros.  It pretty much is a time-log in a 
> convenient spreadsheet format.  It does however extensively 
> use Cell notes, where I can detail my day, item by item.
> 
> Anyway, I have been using OOo in 1.1 where the Excel 
> translation of notes was not great, since it appended a 
> square box to the end of each line in the note, and the note 
> size changed every time I saved and loaded it in OOo.  
> Version 2.0 was much better with notes and Excel files, as was 2.1.
> 
> Now in the new 2.2, the notes will display fine when you 
> mouse-over them, or set the "show note" option.  However, 
> when you click into the note and try to enter something new, 
> the note will clear the note (info still in it, just not 
> viewable).  To make it display, you must Backspace up to the 
> previous line (deleting a character in the previous line 
> unnecessary), then hit ENTER to continue adding to the Note.  
> Atached are a series of small JPGs showing the error.
> 
> 
> 
> One other thing I tried was to save the file as an OpenOffice 
> ODS file.  The Note error is still displayed, exactly as 
> displayed in the Excel translation.  
> 
>  
> 
> Hopefully this is a new bug and I just failed to find a 
> bug-report.  BTW, you guys are doing a fantastic job on the 
> project and I look forward to each new edition to see what 
> has been changed or enhanced.
> 
>  
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Glenn Skitch
> 
> 

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Re: [users] Calc changes in v2.2 OOo for Windows

[Johnny Andersson]

2007/4/30, Glenn Skitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


 Hi all

I am using version 2.2 of OpenOffice in Windows XP sp2+updates.
Unfortunately I cannot find an adequate avenue for submitting what may be a
bug, and I haven't been able to find it in a FAQ.



Anyway, here is the issue.  I just upgraded from v2.1 to 2.2, and use Calc
everyday to generate an excel File that has no formulas or macros.  It
pretty much is a time-log in a convenient spreadsheet format.  It does
however *extensively *use Cell notes, where I can detail my day, item by
item.

Anyway, I have been using OOo in 1.1 where the Excel translation of notes
was not great, since it appended a square box to the end of each line in the
note, and the note size changed every time I saved and loaded it in OOo.
Version 2.0 was much better with notes and Excel files, as was 2.1.

Now in the new 2.2, the notes will display fine when you mouse-over them,
or set the "show note" option.  However, when you click into the note and
try to enter something new, the note will clear the note (info still in it,
just not viewable).  To make it display, you must Backspace up to the
previous line (deleting a character in the previous line unnecessary), then
hit ENTER to continue adding to the Note.  Atached are a series of small
JPGs showing the error.

 One other thing I tried was to save the file as an OpenOffice ODS file.
The Note error is still displayed, exactly as displayed in the Excel
translation.



Hopefully this is a new bug and I just failed to find a bug-report.  BTW,
you guys are doing a fantastic job on the project and I look forward to each
new edition to see what has been changed or enhanced.



Have a great day!

Glenn Skitch

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Someone asked about this problem before on this list and I think it's a
known problem and I also think an error report is already filed.

You can search for the thread somewhere at http://www.openoffice.org/ and at
the same place you can also search for that bug.

As far as I know, the note is not cleared out. It's there, but you just
can't see it in edit mode. I'm going to work now, so I don't have the time
right now to provide you with the appropriate links, maybe someone else can.

Johnny Andersson

[users] Layout issues sharing docs between Linux & XP

[John Pearson]

Hi,

I'm hoping someone here can clue me in on what's going on here, and what
(if anything) I can do about it.

I support a site running a mix of Ubuntu and Windows XP machines, and
we're trying to get them to use OpenOffice for common docs.
The XP workstations are running OpenOffice 2.0.4, the Linux boxes are
Ubnutu 5.10, running a late pre-release of version 2 (but the behaviour
is the same on Ubuntu 6.06, runnung OpenOffice 2.0.2).

They have a large library of docs that they've converted to OpenOffice,
using URW Gothic consistently throughout; this font is on the Ubuntu
boxes courtesy of gsfonts, and the same font is installed as a PS Type 1
font on the Windows XP machines.  The document they've shown me is a
form that has little flowing text, most lines being ended in a soft
return; when opened under Ubuntu it's exactly 3 pages long, but under XP
it's nearer 3.5; viewed side by side, it's immediately apparent that the
vertical space used by each line is greater under XP.

As close as I can tell (and subject to variations due to OOO
version/OS), the respective copies of OpenOffice are configured identically.

Some things I've noticed, but whose significance isn't clear to me:

* Windows wouldn't install the Ubuntu version of the fonts, claiming
  that the .pfm file was invalid or corrupt; I used the Debian Etch
  version instead, which it seemed happy with.
* Under Windows, the character font style is shown as (e.g.) 'URW
  Gothic L', 'Regular', and the dialog includes Regular as an
  option; the dialog says (paraphrasing) 'the same font style will
  be used on printer and screen'.
* Under Ubuntu, the character style is shown as (e.g.) 'URW Gothic
  L', 'Regular', but the dialog doesn't offer 'Regular' (using
  'Book' instead); the dialog says (paraphrasing) 'the font style
  will be simulated...'.


It looks like a font substitution issue, but I can't see why or what I
can do about it; OpenOffice offers a font substitution table, but it
only offers to substitute one family (e.g., 'URW Gothic L') with
another, rather than one style with another (e.g., 'Book' for 'Regular').

Any clues?  Have Ubuntu mangled their gsfonts packages?  Is there some
weird registry setting in XP that's increasing the line height?

Thanks for at least thinking about it,


John.

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Re: [users] Calc changes in v2.2 OOo for Windows

[TerryJ]

Glenn Skitch wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I am using version 2.2 of OpenOffice in Windows XP sp2+updates.
> Unfortunately I cannot find an adequate avenue for submitting what may
> be a bug, and I haven't been able to find it in a FAQ.
> 
>  
> 
> Anyway, here is the issue.  I just upgraded from v2.1 to 2.2, and use
> Calc everyday to generate an excel File that has no formulas or macros.
> It pretty much is a time-log in a convenient spreadsheet format.  It
> does however extensively use Cell notes, where I can detail my day, item
> by item.
> 
> Anyway, I have been using OOo in 1.1 where the Excel translation of
> notes was not great, since it appended a square box to the end of each
> line in the note, and the note size changed every time I saved and
> loaded it in OOo.  Version 2.0 was much better with notes and Excel
> files, as was 2.1.
> 
> Now in the new 2.2, the notes will display fine when you mouse-over
> them, or set the "show note" option.  However, when you click into the
> note and try to enter something new, the note will clear the note (info
> still in it, just not viewable).  To make it display, you must Backspace
> up to the previous line (deleting a character in the previous line
> unnecessary), then hit ENTER to continue adding to the Note.  Atached
> are a series of small JPGs showing the error.
> 
> 
> 
> One other thing I tried was to save the file as an OpenOffice ODS file.
> The Note error is still displayed, exactly as displayed in the Excel
> translation.  
> 
>  
> 
> Hopefully this is a new bug and I just failed to find a bug-report.
> BTW, you guys are doing a fantastic job on the project and I look
> forward to each new edition to see what has been changed or enhanced.
> 
>  
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Glenn Skitch
> 
> 

Hi.  Your jpgs were stripped from your message, as attachments sometimes
are.

A guide for filing a bug report is here:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=47619 .  You begin by
registering here: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join
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Re: [users] Data validation in Calc with dates does not function properly

[TerryJ]

Paul Dom wrote:
> 
> I am using OpenOffice 2.2 Dutch version.
> I have a problem of validating a date cell in Calc.
> 
> I try to ensure that the value I enter is before 01/01/2007. (Or after a 
> certain date.)
> I use the menu Data, Validation and enter Date as content and maximum 
> value = 01/01/2007.
> I still can enter any value without seeing the message box I entered for 
> unappropriate values.
> 
> Is this a bug in Calc? Or do I have to specify the maximum value in a 
> certain format?
> Can anyone help me?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Paul Dom
> 
> 

I must admit I've decided to get by without Data >Validity.  After
experimenting with a date, I find that you have to insert the numerical
value of the date which is your maximum or minimum.  eg. 31/12/2007 = 39447.
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Re: [users] Good place to store Macros for Everyones use...

[TerryJ]

WP Hewitt wrote:
> 
> I have been looking around and I cannot find out where to put Macros so
> they are accessible and everyone using Open Office can use them
> Lots on how to write one, but where does one prefer to install them?
> 
> WPH
> 
> 

Look in the following thread for links relating to distribution of macros:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=50952
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Re: [users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are arriving as .dat garbage

[Kelvin Eldridge]

Victor Blakey wrote:

I am running a small business dealing with local councils.
all our invoices are created in open office and converted to word .doc 
documents for emailing to our customers.
However last year (at around aboput the time we upgraded to open 
office v2.0) our customers started receiving .dat files that came out 
as garbage
tried sending to our own computers (2 windows machines and a fedora 
box), came through as a .doc no probs but same email sent to customer 
they received(windows XP and IE) as garbage.


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Hi Victor,

I don't know the solution to your problem since I haven't experienced 
it, but have you thought about sending a PDF instead.


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Re: [users] Re: .odt filters for Word

[Marc Paré]

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On Sunday 29 April 2007, James Knott wrote:
  

It's beyond me how those school boards can scream they
don't have enough money and then run MS Office, instead
of StarOffice.  Also, at least StarOffice does teach the
kids there is something else out there, besides MS.



I agree with you about schools complaining that they don't 
have money. However, the schools don't have to pay for most 
of the software they use. The commercial proprietary 
software is given to the schools by the software companies 
so the next generations will be taught on that software and 
then later they will demand it in the work place. That is 
exactly what the software companies want because it drives 
up sales.


  
Actually, most of the software used with our board is purchases software 
(most on a per-seat basis) albeit at a reduced rate. Still when you are 
purchasing for 2-3-4 thousand computers the amount becomes quite large.


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Re: [users] open office help

[Paul]

help, i loaded 'open office' on a  compaq computer, it seems to have loaded ok. 
i am a mac computer person, i do not see what to click on to launch the 
software. what am i missing?


I'm going to guess that the 'compaq' computer is running some version
of windows. If this is the case, then you need to look under start >
programs > Open Office ...

Reply to the list if this is not the case.

/paul

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RE: [users] downloading only Writer

[semaj3000]

Susan,

The base of open office takes up a majority of the install space.  To only
have certain components such as writer would not save very much space. What
are the specs on the computer you will be working on?  Most computers now a
days are more than adequate to handle multiple office applications and
suites.

Thanks
Jim

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Subject: [users] downloading only Writer

Hello,

I'm trying to decide which freeware word processing program I should
download.

My questions are:

Is it possible to download just the Writer portion of Open Office?
Does the entire Open Office Suite always come bundled?

I don't need the Calc, Impress, Draw, Base or Math components and
worry about the space they'll take up on my computer.

Please advise.

Thanks,

Susan

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Re: [users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are arriving as .dat garbage

[James Knott]

Victor Blakey wrote:
> I am running a small business dealing with local councils.
> all our invoices are created in open office and converted to word .doc
> documents for emailing to our customers.
> However last year (at around aboput the time we upgraded to open
> office v2.0) our customers started receiving .dat files that came out
> as garbage
> tried sending to our own computers (2 windows machines and a fedora
> box), came through as a .doc no probs but same email sent to customer
> they received(windows XP and IE) as garbage.

Have you asked them to send the email back, so that you can examine it? 
Also, since customers don't normally change invoices, perhaps you might
want to send PDF files instead.  You can email a PDF directly from
OpenOffice.


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Re: [users] iMac w/OS X 10.4.9, downloaded OO, now what?

[Ben Newman]

make sure you have x11 version at least 1.1 installed. it's on your Mac Os X
installation CD under the optional installation package part.
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On 4/30/07, Douglas Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have an icon, but nothing happens when I click it.  Should I be
able to use MS Works, Office, etc?
Thanks for having a site non-techies can understand!
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Re: [users] Information

[Paul]

I would wish an information.

I can execute the .xls (of microsoft excel) file, that it have VBA code, with 
OpenOffice ?

Thanks



The standard version of OOo (the one obtained from www.openoffice.org)
does not support macro's written in VBA.

Some versions of OOo do (eg, Novell) and if that is what your after
then have a look here
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/ooo.html

/paul

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Re: [users] downloading only Writer

[James Knott]

Susan G. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to decide which freeware word processing program I should
> download.
>
> My questions are:
>
> Is it possible to download just the Writer portion of Open Office?
> Does the entire Open Office Suite always come bundled?
>
> I don't need the Calc, Impress, Draw, Base or Math components and
> worry about the space they'll take up on my computer.
>
> Please advise.

You can only download the complete package.  While it is possible to
install only part of it, it's not recommended.

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Re: [users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are arriving as .dat garbage

[Dan Lewis]

On Tuesday May  01 2007 6:27 pm, Mark Pope wrote:
> Hello Victor,
>
> Are these .dat file attachments actually named winmail.dat?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Victor Blakey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, 30 April 2007 11:18 PM
> > To: users@openoffice.org
> > Subject: [users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are
> > arriving as .dat garbage
> >
> > I am running a small business dealing with local councils.
> > all our invoices are created in open office and converted to
> > word .doc documents for emailing to our customers.
> > However last year (at around aboput the time we upgraded to
> > open office
> > v2.0) our customers started receiving .dat files that came
> > out as garbage tried sending to our own computers (2 windows
> > machines and a fedora box), came through as a .doc no probs
> > but same email sent to customer they received(windows XP and
> > IE) as garbage.

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RE: [users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are arriving as .dat garbage

[Mark Pope]

Hello Victor,

Are these .dat file attachments actually named winmail.dat?

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> From: Victor Blakey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 30 April 2007 11:18 PM
> To: users@openoffice.org
> Subject: [users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are
> arriving as .dat garbage
>
> I am running a small business dealing with local councils.
> all our invoices are created in open office and converted to
> word .doc documents for emailing to our customers.
> However last year (at around aboput the time we upgraded to
> open office
> v2.0) our customers started receiving .dat files that came
> out as garbage tried sending to our own computers (2 windows
> machines and a fedora box), came through as a .doc no probs
> but same email sent to customer they received(windows XP and
> IE) as garbage.
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[users] iMac w/OS X 10.4.9, downloaded OO, now what?

[Douglas Williamson]

I have an icon, but nothing happens when I click it.  Should I be  
able to use MS Works, Office, etc?

Thanks for having a site non-techies can understand!
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[users] I cannot delete notes

[lan huong]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am using Open Office 2.0 and my problem is:

1. When I open an Microsoft Office document with Open
Office 2.0, all comments in the document show as
notes, and I cannot delete the notes. Please tell me
how to delete notes? Your support page tells me how to
insert notes, but not how to delete them.

2. Can I just add a comment on anywhere without having
to make some changes first? Microsoft Office allows
you to add comment anytime you want.

Thanks you.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon because my
work is relied on computer and I would appreciate if
you save some time to answer my questions.

Your customer,
Lan Young


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[users] Data validation in Calc with dates does not function properly

[Paul Dom]

I am using OpenOffice 2.2 Dutch version.
I have a problem of validating a date cell in Calc.

I try to ensure that the value I enter is before 01/01/2007. (Or after a 
certain date.)
I use the menu Data, Validation and enter Date as content and maximum 
value = 01/01/2007.
I still can enter any value without seeing the message box I entered for 
unappropriate values.


Is this a bug in Calc? Or do I have to specify the maximum value in a 
certain format?

Can anyone help me?

Thanks!

Paul Dom

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[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

[Lurueña]

Hola:

 

Recientemente he adquirido un USB-U3 de de la marca Kingston.

 

He instalado la versión 2.0 de OpenOffice y me gustaría saber si hay
posibilidad de instalar en dicha USB-U3 alguna versión en Español.

 

Os agradecería cualquier contestación.

 

Gracias.

 

 

 

José E. Caraballo

 

 

 

[users] Files converted to .doc and emailed are arriving as .dat garbage

[Victor Blakey]

I am running a small business dealing with local councils.
all our invoices are created in open office and converted to word .doc 
documents for emailing to our customers.
However last year (at around aboput the time we upgraded to open office 
v2.0) our customers started receiving .dat files that came out as garbage
tried sending to our own computers (2 windows machines and a fedora 
box), came through as a .doc no probs but same email sent to customer 
they received(windows XP and IE) as garbage.


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[users] downloading only Writer

[Susan G.]

Hello,

I'm trying to decide which freeware word processing program I should download.

My questions are:

Is it possible to download just the Writer portion of Open Office?
Does the entire Open Office Suite always come bundled?

I don't need the Calc, Impress, Draw, Base or Math components and
worry about the space they'll take up on my computer.

Please advise.

Thanks,

Susan

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[users] open office help

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help, i loaded 'open office' on a  compaq computer, it seems to have loaded ok. 
i am a mac computer person, i do not see what to click on to launch the 
software. what am i missing?

[users] Information

[Spry]

I would wish an information.

I can execute the .xls (of microsoft excel) file, that it have VBA code, with 
OpenOffice ? 

Thanks

[users] [moderated] I am using Openoffice 2.2 My question is the new version of X11 2006

[Akash Dhama]

Is the new version of X11 2006 which is available from MAC S/w update  
compatible with Openoffice 2.2 I remember last time I downloaded a  
new verson of X11 I could not use openoffice


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Re: [users] Can't drag-and-drop text in Writer

[John Jason Jordan]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
James Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo:

> I am using OO 2.0.4 with Kubuntu 6.10 on an AMD 64-bit desktop. 
> For some reason, I have never been able to drag and drop text in Writer.  

Welcome to the club. I spent hours and hours trying to fix it. Drag and
drop is not the entire problem. If you test your installation of OOo
you will probably also find that the web wizard (File > Wizards > web)
will crash OOo. You will probably also find that some of the settings
in Tools > Options are not saved.

Here is a link to the most recent Ubuntu thread about the matter:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296702

Note that the thread is in the Ubuntu amd64 forum, not Kubuntu, but the
problem and its cause (unknown) are the same. So is the fix at the end
of that thread. I am happy to report that my OOo 2.2 that was
automatically installed with the upgrade from Edgy amd64 to Feisty
amd64 has fixed all the problems.

In my opinion, Edgy was appropriately named. The sooner you get to
Feisty, the happier you will be. :)

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Re: [users] Making mail merge display "stick" / importing user variables from another document

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Solveig,

Jonathon Coombes wrote:


On 01/05/2007, at 2:30 AM, Solveig L Haugland wrote:

I was wondering if there's a way to make database field values,  like 
Bob Jones and 401 Main Street, stay displayed in a mail merge  
document when I re-open it. I can get the values to display by  
clicking the Data to Fields icon. However, when I close and reopen  
the document, the field names are displayed again, and I need to  
click the Data to Fields icon again to redisplay the content.


I can't conform this.
With OOo 2.2 on XP, it still behaves like befor and as you ask: when I 
reopen the document, the values are still there.


In a related topic, is there a way to import User Variable fields  and 
their values from one document to another? I'd like to be able  to use 
[...]


General question: does anyone have a better way than database  fields 
or variables, for this issue? I want to store the same  values across 
multiple subdocuments that form one large document,  about 300-500 
pages. The method must allow the document user to  update the values 
by changing one value and having all instances of  that same field in 
all documents update with the new value. The  update is easier with 
bringing in fields from a database, but the  display thing is a bit 
annoying to have to do every time. Also, the  user needs to be able to 
email out subsections of the document to  people outside the company, 
and have all field values correctly  displayed.



Yep, the exact problem I was looking at. Not sure if any solution is  
possible in OpenOffice.org at this stage other than database.


Maybe you can try the following:
- link a section from another document, with fields and/or bookmarks in 
that section;

- hide the section;
- put references to the fields / bookmarks on the other places in the 
document.


- You can add the same linked section to more documents;
- Edit|Links allows you to update.
I've not tried, it's just an idea out of my head. So I look foreward to 
your experience ..



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Re: [users] "metrology"

[M Henri Day]

I activated the OOo 2.2 spellchecker for English (UK), and also got that
wavy red line for the term «metrology». But after right-clicking the word
and clicking «add», I was then able to compose the following sentence
without receiving an error message : «Metrology is not quite the same thing
as meteorology» (now that is what I call deathless prose !). In any event Mr
Goodman is advised to do the same, in order to add the term to his own OOo
dictionary

Henri

2007/5/1, Richard Detwiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


M Henri Day wrote:
> Does the OOo spell checker really change the orthography of incoming
> documents ? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Entering a word like
> «metrology»
> in a document in Writer will, as Mr Goodman has seen, give rise to a
> query
> if the the dictionary is enabled and the word entered is not listed
> therein,
> and some editing programmes do allow automatic orthographical changes in
> documents being written, i e, «teh» --> «the» (is this the case for
> Writer
> in OOo 2.2 ?), but do they go so far as to change them in downloaded
> documents without asking first ?...
>
> By the way, I agree with Mr Goodman : by all means do include
> «metrology» in
> the English-language dictionary for OOo ?...
>
> Henri
>
> 2007/4/30, goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Please add the word "metrology"  (the science that deals with
>> measurement)
>> to your spell checker.  I recently downloaded a list of Nobel Prize
>> laureates that someone had compiled and found Albert Michelson listed
>> for
>> "precision meteorology."  I chuckled at this and mentioned the error
>> at a
>> celebration of the 100th anniversary of Michelson's Nobel Prize.  I
>> thought
>> this was simply a case of careless editing by the list compiler, but
>> one of
>> my colleagues suggested that "metrology" might have been changed by a
>> spell-checker.  I discounted this theory at first but I entered
>> "metrology,"
>> in OpenOffice 2.0 and sure enough it got the red underline!   The "
>> montrose.net" spell checker has it right, by the way.
>>
>> "Michelson didn't invent doppler radar 100 years ago!"
>>
>> Charles Goodman
>> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> phone: (510) 548- 8860

For what it's worth, I just checked this with OOo 2.2, US English
dictionary. It does indeed show "metrology" as not in the dictionary.
However, it does not suggest meteorology as a replacement. And it is
definitely not in the replacement table (where "teh" is automatically
replaced with "the" for example).

So we can't blame someone coming up with meteorology for Albert
Michelson's field of specialization on OOo's spell check at least!

[users] OpenOffice 2.2 - Opening Flat XML Filter does not auto-detect file type

[Jay Jones]

In OpenOffice 2.x User Guide, Chapter 13: XML Enhancements
 (Page 446 in draft 23)

There is a method to save OpenDocument files as xml text (instead of the 
zipped format)

 Using Tools > XML Filter Settings

I have used this method successfully to open / save OpenDocument text 
files in version OpenOffice.org 2.0, on WinXp.

Changing Tools > Options "Default File Format" Text Document="Flat XML Text"
Under OOo 2.0 the file would open correctly with the XML filter being 
used both from the File>open dialog, and from opening via windows 
explorer association.


Having just un-installed OOo 2.0 & installed OOo 2.2:
With OOo 2.2, the XML filters save the file correctly, but from the File 
> open dialog / Windows explorer association, OOo2.2 opens the Flat XML 
file as plain text.
When using the File>Open Dialog : If I change the "Files of Type" in the 
File/open dialog to "Flat XML Text", the XML file is opened correctly 
using the XML filter.


How do I either:
1) Change the Windows explorer File Association, so that files with the 
chosen .xml extension when opening in OOo 2.2, force use of the "Flat 
XML Filter" (ie. what's the command line to tell OOo2.2 the Filter type 
to use when opening the file)?


2) Ideally, get OOo2.2 to always use the correct XML Filter for this 
given .xml file type / extension.


Thanks in advance,
Jay.

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Re: [users] "metrology"

[Richard Detwiler]

M Henri Day wrote:

Does the OOo spell checker really change the orthography of incoming
documents ? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Entering a word like 
«metrology»
in a document in Writer will, as Mr Goodman has seen, give rise to a 
query
if the the dictionary is enabled and the word entered is not listed 
therein,

and some editing programmes do allow automatic orthographical changes in
documents being written, i e, «teh» --> «the» (is this the case for 
Writer

in OOo 2.2 ?), but do they go so far as to change them in downloaded
documents without asking first ?...

By the way, I agree with Mr Goodman : by all means do include 
«metrology» in

the English-language dictionary for OOo ?...

Henri

2007/4/30, goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Please add the word "metrology"  (the science that deals with 
measurement)

to your spell checker.  I recently downloaded a list of Nobel Prize
laureates that someone had compiled and found Albert Michelson listed 
for
"precision meteorology."  I chuckled at this and mentioned the error 
at a
celebration of the 100th anniversary of Michelson's Nobel Prize.  I 
thought
this was simply a case of careless editing by the list compiler, but 
one of

my colleagues suggested that "metrology" might have been changed by a
spell-checker.  I discounted this theory at first but I entered 
"metrology,"

in OpenOffice 2.0 and sure enough it got the red underline!   The "
montrose.net" spell checker has it right, by the way.

"Michelson didn't invent doppler radar 100 years ago!"

Charles Goodman
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (510) 548- 8860


For what it's worth, I just checked this with OOo 2.2, US English 
dictionary. It does indeed show "metrology" as not in the dictionary. 
However, it does not suggest meteorology as a replacement. And it is 
definitely not in the replacement table (where "teh" is automatically 
replaced with "the" for example).


So we can't blame someone coming up with meteorology for Albert 
Michelson's field of specialization on OOo's spell check at least!


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Re: [users] [moderated]html editor is CRAP

[Robin Laing]

J. Craig Canada wrote:

I've spent hours trying to figure out how to get open office to QUIT changing 
my html documents.  With no luck.

So I gave up trying to view the document in open office (as that seems to be 
when it changes it)  and just upload it to my site and use my browser to view 
it, but guess what?  Open office keeps the document open and won't let me ftp 
it

So, I guess I won't be using open office.

I don't want to have to spend hours trying to figure out how to STOP the 
program from modifying my document.  And I'm NOT stupid.

What a waste of time.

What a piece of crap.



First, OpenOffice is not an HTML editor.  It can save documents as html 
files.  Neither is Microsoft Word for that matter.


If you want to use a program for editing WWW pages, then get a program 
designed for it.  I wouldn't use a mini to haul hogs to market.  Use the 
right tool for the job.


I use Quanta Plus.  You can also download and use SeaMonkey from Mozilla.org

Second, if you posted some information, then maybe someone could offer 
to provide you an answer to your problems.


Now I don't know why you cannot make copies of your files.  I never seem 
to have a problem doing that.



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Re: [users] "metrology"

[M Henri Day]

Does the OOo spell checker really change the orthography of incoming
documents ? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Entering a word like «metrology»
in a document in Writer will, as Mr Goodman has seen, give rise to a query
if the the dictionary is enabled and the word entered is not listed therein,
and some editing programmes do allow automatic orthographical changes in
documents being written, i e, «teh» --> «the» (is this the case for Writer
in OOo 2.2 ?), but do they go so far as to change them in downloaded
documents without asking first ?...

By the way, I agree with Mr Goodman : by all means do include «metrology» in
the English-language dictionary for OOo ?...

Henri

2007/4/30, goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Please add the word "metrology"  (the science that deals with measurement)
to your spell checker.  I recently downloaded a list of Nobel Prize
laureates that someone had compiled and found Albert Michelson listed for
"precision meteorology."  I chuckled at this and mentioned the error at a
celebration of the 100th anniversary of Michelson's Nobel Prize.  I thought
this was simply a case of careless editing by the list compiler, but one of
my colleagues suggested that "metrology" might have been changed by a
spell-checker.  I discounted this theory at first but I entered "metrology,"
in OpenOffice 2.0 and sure enough it got the red underline!   The "
montrose.net" spell checker has it right, by the way.

"Michelson didn't invent doppler radar 100 years ago!"

Charles Goodman
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (510) 548- 8860

Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

Al Houstoun wrote:
Is there a description of the operating requirements to run the latest 
version of OPENOffice


I have ver 2.2

But I would like to know if I can install it on Win 98, Win 98 SE, Win 
98 ME


Yes ... -> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html


Thanks for great product


http://contributing.openoffice.org/index.html
:-)


Al Houstoun


Manfred

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Re: [users] Informtion about open office security

[Paul]

I have to make a presentation about the OOP's security, special about the 
certificate and codingalgorithm. Also about a comparasion between odt and docx. 
What makes odt secure?

Can you send me some information?


OO employs strong encryption to files protected with a password. The
encryption scheme is the same regardless of what component (eg,
writer, calc, etc...) is used to create the file.

The encryption algorithm is a 128 bit Blowfish CFB algorithm
(http://www.schneier.com/blowfish.html). Files are encrypted with
different keys, each one derived from the password with PBKDF2
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBKDF2) using 1024 iterations and
different salts. Files that contain content are treated this way, any
graphic files (eg, jpg) that are used as well as the 'thumbnail' of
the file. Some files are not encrypted and these store meta data about
the set of files.

Below link is useful to understand more about the use of certificates
within OOo :
(http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2004/presentations/friday/timmermann_digital_signatures.pdf)

Now you know a little more about .odt security it would probably be
best to contact MS for similar information on there .docx file format
security.

All this stuff was available from google.

/paul

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Re: [users] Re: Spell checker doesn't work

[Dan Lewis]

Comment in-line
On Tuesday May  01 2007 1:45 pm, Victor Chapman wrote:
> Brian Barker wrote:
> > At 11:25 01/05/2007 -0400, Victor Chapman wrote:
> >> I am running writer 2.0.4 under Suse 10.2. For some reason the
> >> spell checker is not working for me. There must be a button that
> >> I can't find.
> >
> > Probably not.  The most likely scenario is that you have the
> > default language set to English (Canada) or perhaps even French
> > (Canada), but you have not installed the relevant dictionary. 
> > The default OpenOffice package comes bundled with some
> > dictionaries, but neither of the Canadian ones are included.
>
> Well I have several dictionaries installed including the one named
> English Canada.

 What is the "Default language for document" setting in 
Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages? Is it 
English(Canada)? If it is not, that is your problem. Also if it does 
not have an icon containing ABC, the Canadian dictionary is not 
properly installed.

Dan

>   If there is no dictionary, OpenOffice
>
> > simply doesn't find anything to complain about and says
> > everything's OK!
>
> That's entirely possible!
>
> > Go to File | Wizards > | Install new dictionaries... and follow
> > the instructions to download and install what you need.
>
> File | Wizards > | Install ... does not exist for me.
>
> > If this is not the problem, you may have some settings not
> > appropriately set.  If so, ask for further advice if necessary.

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Re: [users] Manual Book of Open Office 2.2

[James Knott]

Dan Lewis wrote:

On Monday April  30 2007 12:36 am, Ferry Wijaya wrote:
  

Dear Sir/Madam,



How to get manual book of Open Office 2.2?  My Customer want to buy
it. How much does it cost?



Best Regards,
Ferry Wijaya



 There are books on OpenOffice.org for version 2.x available on 
www.lulu.com. There are manuals that you can download at
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/. Feel free to download 
them and burn them to CD's.
  


There is also the OpenOffice 2 Guidebook.

http://openoffice.blogs.com/bookresources/

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Re: [users] MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout. MORE from a MickySoft shill!

[James Knott]

Kirill S. Palagin wrote:

-Original Message-
From: James Knott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:47 PM

  
  
Don't forget, MS has done in the past and apparently still 
doing, is using hidden API, that give their own apps better 
performance.  



Can you prove your assertions?
  


Look up the Borland suit, the MS trial of the late 90's and the recent 
Iowa trial.




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Re: [users] "metrology"

[James Knott]

goodman wrote:

Please add the word "metrology"  (the science that deals with measurement) to your spell checker.  I recently 
downloaded a list of Nobel Prize laureates that someone had compiled and found Albert Michelson listed for "precision 
meteorology."  I chuckled at this and mentioned the error at a celebration of the 100th anniversary of Michelson's Nobel 
Prize.  I thought this was simply a case of careless editing by the list compiler, but one of my colleagues suggested that 
"metrology" might have been changed by a spell-checker.  I discounted this theory at first but I entered 
"metrology," in OpenOffice 2.0 and sure enough it got the red underline!   The "montrose.net" spell checker 
has it right, by the way.


  


You can always add it to your personal dictionary.


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[users] Re: Spell checker doesn't work

[Victor Chapman]

Brian Barker wrote:
> At 11:25 01/05/2007 -0400, Victor Chapman wrote:
>> I am running writer 2.0.4 under Suse 10.2. For some reason the spell
>> checker is not working for me. There must be a button that I can't find.
> 
> Probably not.  The most likely scenario is that you have the default
> language set to English (Canada) or perhaps even French (Canada), but
> you have not installed the relevant dictionary.  The default OpenOffice
> package comes bundled with some dictionaries, but neither of the
> Canadian ones are included.

Well I have several dictionaries installed including the one named
English Canada.

  If there is no dictionary, OpenOffice
> simply doesn't find anything to complain about and says everything's OK!

That's entirely possible!

> 
> Go to File | Wizards > | Install new dictionaries... and follow the
> instructions to download and install what you need.

File | Wizards > | Install ... does not exist for me.

> 
> If this is not the problem, you may have some settings not appropriately
> set.  If so, ask for further advice if necessary.



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Re: [users] [moderated]html editor is CRAP

[James Knott]

J. Craig Canada wrote:

I've spent hours trying to figure out how to get open office to QUIT changing 
my html documents.  With no luck.

So I gave up trying to view the document in open office (as that seems to be 
when it changes it)  and just upload it to my site and use my browser to view 
it, but guess what?  Open office keeps the document open and won't let me ftp 
it

So, I guess I won't be using open office.

I don't want to have to spend hours trying to figure out how to STOP the 
program from modifying my document.  And I'm NOT stupid.

What a waste of time.

What a piece of crap.
  
When you tried doing that, was OpenOffice open?  It won't save any 
changes if you close the file without saving.  Complaining about 
something like this, without providing details of what is or isn't 
happening, doesn't help anyone.



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[users] "metrology"

[goodman]

Please add the word "metrology"  (the science that deals with measurement) to 
your spell checker.  I recently downloaded a list of Nobel Prize laureates that 
someone had compiled and found Albert Michelson listed for "precision 
meteorology."  I chuckled at this and mentioned the error at a celebration of 
the 100th anniversary of Michelson's Nobel Prize.  I thought this was simply a 
case of careless editing by the list compiler, but one of my colleagues 
suggested that "metrology" might have been changed by a spell-checker.  I 
discounted this theory at first but I entered "metrology," in OpenOffice 2.0 
and sure enough it got the red underline!   The "montrose.net" spell checker 
has it right, by the way.

"Michelson didn't invent doppler radar 100 years ago!"

Charles Goodman
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (510) 548- 8860

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Re: [users] Dictionarys

[Nathan Murtha]

thanks, it worked



From: Dan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: users@openoffice.org
To: users@openoffice.org
CC: "Nathan Murtha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [users] Dictionarys
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:11:17 -0500

On Thursday April  19 2007 3:27 pm, Nathan Murtha wrote:
> I was told to email you guys at this adress. Can you tell me how to
> add dictionarys to the writer program?
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan

File > Wizards > Install new dictionaries.

Dan


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Re: [users] Dictionarys

[Nathan Murtha]

worked thanks a lot


From: Dave Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: users@openoffice.org
CC: Nathan Murtha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [users] Dictionarys
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:10:44 +1000

 Original Message 
From: Nathan Murtha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri 20 Apr 2007 06:27:16 EST

> I was told to email you guys at this adress. Can you tell me how to add
> dictionarys to the writer program?
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan

The OOo (OpenOffice.org) spell check function has to accommodate many
languages and requires a little configuration to ensure it works
correctly for your language/dialect.

Normally "File  -> Wizards -> Install new dictionaries.." will get the
dictionary(s) you require.

You can also find details about obtaining dictionaries here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

For a tutorial on spell checking and language configuration see:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=50862

Hope this helps.

Dave
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[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

[Al Houstoun]

Is there a description of the operating requirements to run the latest
version of OPENOffice

 

I have ver 2.2

 

But I would like to know if I can install it on Win 98, Win 98 SE, Win 98 ME


 

Thanks for great product

 

Al Houstoun

 

 

 

[users] How to use Your Product to send out Mailing Lists ?

[Mjfs1950]

Dear  Sir's,
I have  been recommended to use your Open Office .org.   program
 
which I  was informed ,was Free to use, instead of "Excel" and  that
 
yours was  "better" and easier to use.
 
However,  I just can't seem to get to the area or place, where I can my 
 
lists  into for mailing out to the 20,000 people I'm waiting to mail  to.
 
Can you  please help me, or, inform me this is not possible, and I've
 
been  mislead in my expectations.
 
Would  very much appreciate your reply at your earliest  convenience.
 
Yours  Faithfully,
 
Michael  J. Sullivan(London U.K)   Mjfs1950  @aol.com



   

Re: [users] IBM Select Copywrite Principles

[Colin Sharpe]

The usual email abbreviations are:

IMHO, usually the H is put in out of politeness.

IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion.  For those who
 cannot stand being disagreed with, or are
 trying to convert the opinions of others.

Colin.

--- Anthony Chilco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I must disagree. All of my opinions are humble. I'm
> an extremely humble 
> person and very proud of it. :-o IMHOTIVPO 
> (inmyhumbleopinionthati'mveryproudof)
> tc
> 
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> 
> > 
> > IMHO = In My Humble Opinion but this one is a
> farce because 
> > no opinions are Humble. They should just use IMO
> > 
> > Here is just one of many web sites that have this
> kind of 
> > information available.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.geocities.com/ikind_babel/babel/babel.html
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> 
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Re: [users] [moderated]html editor is CRAP

[Johnny Andersson]

2007/5/1, Anthony Chilco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi J.
I think that most of us would agree that Writer is not a high-powered
html editor. It's intended for simple jobs. If you want a good open
source html editor, download nVu. It even has built in FTP.
Have you considered that maybe your html document is not following
current standards and Writer is correcting formatting errors that would
have made you page incompatible with some browsers?
tc



Are there any improvements  in Writer HTML since 1.1.5? I haven't used it
since then, just because it didn't follow the W3C recommendations. Try to
create a table that starts, let's say 7 cm from the left. Look at the code
that was created... for 1.1.5 it's just ridiculous, I hope 2.x is better.

On the other hand, as already said in this thread, there are other free
programs around (like KompoZer) that does this way better.

Johnny Andersson

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J. Craig Canada wrote:
> I've spent hours trying to figure out how to get open office to QUIT
changing my html documents.  With no luck.
>
> So I gave up trying to view the document in open office (as that seems
to be when it changes it)  and just upload it to my site and use my browser
to view it, but guess what?  Open office keeps the document open and won't
let me ftp it
>
> So, I guess I won't be using open office.
>
> I don't want to have to spend hours trying to figure out how to STOP the
program from modifying my document.  And I'm NOT stupid.
>
> What a waste of time.
>
> What a piece of crap.

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Re: [users] IBM Select Copywrite Principles

[Anthony Chilco]

I must disagree. All of my opinions are humble. I'm an extremely humble 
person and very proud of it. :-o IMHOTIVPO 
(inmyhumbleopinionthati'mveryproudof)

tc

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IMHO = In My Humble Opinion but this one is a farce because 
no opinions are Humble. They should just use IMO


Here is just one of many web sites that have this kind of 
information available.


http://www.geocities.com/ikind_babel/babel/babel.html



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Re: [users] [moderated]html editor is CRAP

[Anthony Chilco]

Hi J.
I think that most of us would agree that Writer is not a high-powered 
html editor. It's intended for simple jobs. If you want a good open 
source html editor, download nVu. It even has built in FTP.
Have you considered that maybe your html document is not following 
current standards and Writer is correcting formatting errors that would 
have made you page incompatible with some browsers?

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J. Craig Canada wrote:

I've spent hours trying to figure out how to get open office to QUIT changing 
my html documents.  With no luck.

So I gave up trying to view the document in open office (as that seems to be 
when it changes it)  and just upload it to my site and use my browser to view 
it, but guess what?  Open office keeps the document open and won't let me ftp 
it

So, I guess I won't be using open office.

I don't want to have to spend hours trying to figure out how to STOP the 
program from modifying my document.  And I'm NOT stupid.

What a waste of time.

What a piece of crap.


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[users] Re: Good place to store Macros for Everyones use...

[John Rotomano]

how about
http://www.ooomacros.org/

hewnix wrote:

I have been looking around and I cannot find out where to put Macros so
they are accessible and everyone using Open Office can use them
Lots on how to write one, but where does one prefer to install them?

WPH
  


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RE: [users] MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout. MORE from a MickySoft shill!

[Kirill S. Palagin]

> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Smits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:45 AM
> >
> both running on XP. Who knows what extra overhead is caused 
> by Vista, and who knows what extra overhead is added because 
> M$ is deliberately trying to make OO run slowly. 

If anything, OpenOffice starts faster on Vista than on XP. 
Cold (after reboot) start times (Calc, to icons on toolbar responding to
mousing)
XP   - 8 seconds
Vista   - 4 seconds
Ubuntu 7.04 - 7 seconds
Suse 10.2- 8 seconds
Hardware - Athlon XP 2400, 2GB of RAM, IDE HDD 7200 RPM.

Regards,
K. Palagin.

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[users] Re: [Bulk] Re: [users] IBM Select Copywrite Principles

[William Case]

Hi;

Since we have drifted so far OT in this thread; ...

On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 20:39 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Saturday 28 April 2007, Dan Lewis wrote:
> >  But don't we have to be a little careful in using
> > jargon? This seems especially true when there is no
> > obvious meaning to those who do not know what it means.
> > IIRC is another example that I see once in a while. I
> > still have no idea what it means. Besides, these
> > abbreviations were created because of much slower modems.
> > It would be nice to see the actual words once in a while.
> > Assuming the reader knows what our jargon is suppose to
> > mean when there is evidence to the contrary does not make
> > a lot of sense, does it?
> 
> IIRC = If I Remember/Recall Correctly
> 
> IMHO = In My Humble Opinion but this one is a farce because 
> no opinions are Humble. They should just use IMO
> 
I despise other people's laziness and use of clichés in English -- but
of course not my own.  If I were king, (IIWK -- maybe) I would have a
universal auto-correcter akin to aspell that would allow me to type in a
short jargon capitalized word that would immediately be replaced by the
full phrase.  Similarly it would scan any documents or communications I
had received and replace all jargon with the full phrase.  It would have
to be accurate though, or off with their heads.


> Here is just one of many web sites that have this kind of 
> information available.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/ikind_babel/babel/babel.html
> 
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Re: [users] Spell checker doesn't work

[Brian Barker]

At 11:25 01/05/2007 -0400, Victor Chapman wrote:
I am running writer 2.0.4 under Suse 10.2. For some reason the spell 
checker is not working for me. There must be a button that I can't find.


Probably not.  The most likely scenario is that you have the default 
language set to English (Canada) or perhaps even French (Canada), but 
you have not installed the relevant dictionary.  The default 
OpenOffice package comes bundled with some dictionaries, but neither 
of the Canadian ones are included.  If there is no dictionary, 
OpenOffice simply doesn't find anything to complain about and says 
everything's OK!


Go to File | Wizards > | Install new dictionaries... and follow the 
instructions to download and install what you need.


If this is not the problem, you may have some settings not 
appropriately set.  If so, ask for further advice if necessary.


Brian Barker

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RE: [users] Status bar control to display/change the language

[Kirill S. Palagin]

Yep. Hopefully we will get issues 1034 and 1035 both fixed in 2.3.

WBR,
Kirill Palagin.

> -Original Message-
> From: M Henri Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:56 PM
> To: users@openoffice.org
> Subject: [users] Status bar control to display/change the language
> 
> The following, taken from Erwin Tenhumberg's latest 
> announcement, will certainly bring joy to the hearts of 
> Kirill and myself - and, I suspect, to many others as well. 
> Let us hope that the framework team succeeds in their endeavours !...
> 
> Henri
> 
> New Application for Status bar control to display/change the 
> language 
> =
> "The Google Summer Of Code 2007 (tm) initiative from Google 
> was a great success for OpenOffice.org and the framework 
> project. The framework team has two active projects within 
> OpenOffice.org. These projects should help users to work more 
> efficiently with OpenOffice.org. Please look at the following 
> description of these two projects.
> 
> * New Application for Status bar control to display/change 
> the language
>   by Lili Sun, mentored by Carsten Driesner and Thomas Lange
> 
>   Currently OpenOffice.org doesn't provide an easy way to change the
>   language of a word, paragraph or text selection within the Writer
>   application. The user has to use the menu and a multi-tab dialog to
>   choose the appropriate language. A status bar control which provides
>   this function would greatly enhance usability for people who have to
>   work with multiple language documents."
> 
> http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/hot_framework_projects
> 

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Re: [users] how to change font

[Helen]

Thank, Ron and Dan,
So easy once you see it!

Helen

On 5/1/07, Dan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tuesday May  01 2007 9:52 am, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2007 16:45, my mailbox was graced by a missive
>
>  from Helen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who wrote:
> > How do I change the default font for Open Office 2.0?
> > I know how to change the font in particular documents, but I
> > don't see how to change the default.
>
>  Tools => Options => OOWriter => Basic Fonts
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron.

Copy to Helen.

[users] Spell checker doesn't work

[Victor Chapman]

I am running writer 2.0.4 under Suse 10.2. For some reason the spell
checker is not working for me. There must be a button that I can't find.
Help!

TIA

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Re: [users] how to change font

[Dan Lewis]

On Tuesday May  01 2007 9:52 am, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2007 16:45, my mailbox was graced by a missive
>
>  from Helen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who wrote:
> > How do I change the default font for Open Office 2.0?
> > I know how to change the font in particular documents, but I
> > don't see how to change the default.
>
>  Tools => Options => OOWriter => Basic Fonts
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron.

Copy to Helen.

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Re: [users] MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout. MORE from a MickySoft shill!

[M Henri Day]

2007/5/1, Kirill S. Palagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> -Original Message-
> From: James Knott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:47 PM
> >
> Don't forget, MS has done in the past and apparently still
> doing, is using hidden API, that give their own apps better
> performance.

Can you prove your assertions?

> Ever wonder why Windows is so slow to boot, compared to
> Linux?  And by boot, I don't mean to the point where you can
> see the desktop. I mean to the point where you can actually
> do something.

Boot times (to main menu being reasonably clickable,):
XP - 23 seconds
Vista - 50 seconds
Ubuntu 7.04 - 50 seconds
Suse 10.2 - 1m 13 seconds.

Regards,
K. Palagin.



I very much appreciate Kirill's attitude - these are questions which cannot
be dealt with by appeals to one's subjective likes and dislikes, but only by
testing. My experience is that boot times are dependent on numerous factors,
not least antivirus, antispyware, and firewall protection, which in my case
are configured to start up automatically upon booting. Running a dual boot
system (two 250 GB harddiscs, one with Windows XP Home installed, one,
invisible to Windows, with Ubuntu 7.04) on an AMD 64 X2 5000+ machine, I
boot via GRUB and choose which of the systems to use. After choosing I must
wait 36 seconds to login to Ubuntu, 25 seconds to Windows, a minimal
difference of some 11 seconds. But the difference in the respective times it
takes to login (write login name and password) and go to a «clickable»
screen is rather more considerable ; for Ubuntu it takes some 22 seconds,
for Windows 75. This difference, I suspect, is dependent upon the need for
more extensive protection against malware in Windows

Henri

Re: [users] Manual Book of Open Office 2.2

[Dan Lewis]

On Monday April  30 2007 12:36 am, Ferry Wijaya wrote:
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
>
>
> How to get manual book of Open Office 2.2?  My Customer want to buy
> it. How much does it cost?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Ferry Wijaya

 There are books on OpenOffice.org for version 2.x available on 
www.lulu.com. There are manuals that you can download at
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/. Feel free to download 
them and burn them to CD's.

Dan

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Re: [users] how to change font

[Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI]

On Monday 30 April 2007 16:45, my mailbox was graced by a missive
 from Helen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who wrote:

> How do I change the default font for Open Office 2.0?
> I know how to change the font in particular documents, but I don't
> see how to change the default.

 Tools => Options => OOWriter => Basic Fonts

Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
 An Rheumatismus und an wahre Liebe glaubt man erst,
wenn man davon befallen wird.
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Re: [users] change default font?

[Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI]

On Tuesday 01 May 2007 08:46, my mailbox was graced by a missive
 from Helen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who wrote:

> How can I change the default font in Open Office?  I know how to change
> the font in documents, but can't see how to change the detault.

Tools => Options => OOWriter => Basic Fonts
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
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Re: [users] Problem with Open Office 2.2 & Dragon Naturally Speaking 9

[John Boyle]

To Mr. McGee: Contact Lunis Orcutt at Knowbrainer.com!

Dean McGee wrote:

I am using version 2.2 of OpenOffice.org.  My problem is:
I can't get Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 (a voice recognition system) to 
recognize the text on Open Office.  Is there a solution / patch for this?

Thanks,

Dean
  


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[users] forms question

[Ben Newman]

I have successfully created a form for adding rows to a table. What is the
general algorithm for creating a form that searches for a given record (or
records) and then allows manipulation of that record?

In other words, how do I set up a form to take user input, retrieve the set
of records that match the search criteria (all records where the letters
"smi" appear in the name for example) and display it in a form for editing?
I get the sense that filters might do what I want, but I'm very new to all
this.

Re: [users] Re: .odt filters for Word

[linuxmaillists]

On Sunday 29 April 2007, James Knott wrote:
> It's beyond me how those school boards can scream they
> don't have enough money and then run MS Office, instead
> of StarOffice.  Also, at least StarOffice does teach the
> kids there is something else out there, besides MS.

I agree with you about schools complaining that they don't 
have money. However, the schools don't have to pay for most 
of the software they use. The commercial proprietary 
software is given to the schools by the software companies 
so the next generations will be taught on that software and 
then later they will demand it in the work place. That is 
exactly what the software companies want because it drives 
up sales.

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[users] test ignore

[linuxmaillists]

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Re: [users] Re: PDF to Open Office conversion

[linuxmaillists]

On Friday 27 April 2007, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> >> ... Solid Converter...provides enough formatting
> >> options to enable you to get it right...
> >>
> >> It is neither free nor open code but it does the job
> >> and isn't expensive.
> >
> > Kword. Its free and it exports to odt.
>
> Is the person who asked using Linux? (KWord hasn't been
> ported to windoze yet).
>
> I planned on downloading it and give it a try, but I'm
> haven't installed a linux distro yet.
>
> If KWord can produce a perfect transition from pdf to a
> editable version, that's worth knowing. If not, for
> someone running windoze that needs to reproduce
> selections contained in large pdf files, Solid Converter
> will provide a perfectly faithful document.

Evince does a better job than Kword but is also only for 
Linux.

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[users] Manual Book of Open Office 2.2

[Ferry Wijaya]

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

How to get manual book of Open Office 2.2?  My Customer want to buy it. How
much does it cost?

 

Best Regards,
Ferry Wijaya

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[users] resources

[Ben Newman]

Can anyone recommend and books or online resources so I get get good at
Macros, Forms and Reports in base?

Re: [users] Re: .odt filters for Word

[linuxmaillists]

On Sunday 29 April 2007, James Knott wrote:
> It's beyond me how those school boards can scream they
> don't have enough money and then run MS Office, instead
> of StarOffice.  Also, at least StarOffice does teach the
> kids there is something else out there, besides MS.

I agree with you about schools complaining that they don't 
have money. However, the schools don't have to pay for most 
of the software they use. The commercial proprietary 
software is given to the schools by the software companies 
so the next generations will be taught on that software and 
then later they will demand it in the work place. That is 
exactly what the software companies want because it drives 
up sales.

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[users] Informtion about open office security

[Dongdemarco]

Hallo,

I have to make a presentation about the OOP's security, special about the 
certificate and codingalgorithm. Also about a comparasion between odt and docx. 
What makes odt secure?

Can you send me some information? 

 

Thanks a lot.

 

Best Regards

 

Dong 



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[users] Template files and printer settings reset with program update

[Paul]

Hi,

I'm certainly not moaning, the program is great, but i have a lot of 
templates and draw files with different printer settings and i found 
that when i updated to 2.2, all printer settings for all templates and 
files, returned to the default.


A pain, (but still well worth having the program, for the ability to 
save the printer settings for each file).


Is there a way to MASS export the templates before another update, or 
will this not work.


Everything else was untouched.

--
Kind Regards

Paul



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Re: [users] Re: PDF to Open Office conversion

[linuxmaillists]

On Friday 27 April 2007, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> >> ... Solid Converter...provides enough formatting
> >> options to enable you to get it right...
> >>
> >> It is neither free nor open code but it does the job
> >> and isn't expensive.
> >
> > Kword. Its free and it exports to odt.
>
> Is the person who asked using Linux? (KWord hasn't been
> ported to windoze yet).
>
> I planned on downloading it and give it a try, but I'm
> haven't installed a linux distro yet.
>
> If KWord can produce a perfect transition from pdf to a
> editable version, that's worth knowing. If not, for
> someone running windoze that needs to reproduce
> selections contained in large pdf files, Solid Converter
> will provide a perfectly faithful document.

Evince does a better job than Kword but is also only for 
Linux.

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[users] Calc changes in v2.2 OOo for Windows

[Glenn Skitch]

Hi all

I am using version 2.2 of OpenOffice in Windows XP sp2+updates.
Unfortunately I cannot find an adequate avenue for submitting what may
be a bug, and I haven't been able to find it in a FAQ.

 

Anyway, here is the issue.  I just upgraded from v2.1 to 2.2, and use
Calc everyday to generate an excel File that has no formulas or macros.
It pretty much is a time-log in a convenient spreadsheet format.  It
does however extensively use Cell notes, where I can detail my day, item
by item.

Anyway, I have been using OOo in 1.1 where the Excel translation of
notes was not great, since it appended a square box to the end of each
line in the note, and the note size changed every time I saved and
loaded it in OOo.  Version 2.0 was much better with notes and Excel
files, as was 2.1.

Now in the new 2.2, the notes will display fine when you mouse-over
them, or set the "show note" option.  However, when you click into the
note and try to enter something new, the note will clear the note (info
still in it, just not viewable).  To make it display, you must Backspace
up to the previous line (deleting a character in the previous line
unnecessary), then hit ENTER to continue adding to the Note.  Atached
are a series of small JPGs showing the error.



One other thing I tried was to save the file as an OpenOffice ODS file.
The Note error is still displayed, exactly as displayed in the Excel
translation.  

 

Hopefully this is a new bug and I just failed to find a bug-report.
BTW, you guys are doing a fantastic job on the project and I look
forward to each new edition to see what has been changed or enhanced.

 

Have a great day!

Glenn Skitch

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[users] [moderated]html editor is CRAP

[J. Craig Canada]

I've spent hours trying to figure out how to get open office to QUIT changing 
my html documents.  With no luck.

So I gave up trying to view the document in open office (as that seems to be 
when it changes it)  and just upload it to my site and use my browser to view 
it, but guess what?  Open office keeps the document open and won't let me ftp 
it

So, I guess I won't be using open office.

I don't want to have to spend hours trying to figure out how to STOP the 
program from modifying my document.  And I'm NOT stupid.

What a waste of time.

What a piece of crap.

[users] how to change font

[Helen]

How do I change the default font for Open Office 2.0?

I know how to change the font in particular documents, but I don't
see how to change the default.

Thanks,
Helen

[users] change default font?

[Helen]

Hi,
How can I change the default font in Open Office?  I know how to change
the font in documents, but can't see how to change the detault.

Thanks,
Helen, using SuSE 10

RE: [users] MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout. MORE from a MickySoft shill!

[Kirill S. Palagin]

> -Original Message-
> From: James Knott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:47 PM
> >   
> Don't forget, MS has done in the past and apparently still 
> doing, is using hidden API, that give their own apps better 
> performance.  

Can you prove your assertions?

> Ever wonder why Windows is so slow to boot, compared to 
> Linux?  And by boot, I don't mean to the point where you can 
> see the desktop. I mean to the point where you can actually 
> do something.

Boot times (to main menu being reasonably clickable,):
XP - 23 seconds
Vista - 50 seconds
Ubuntu 7.04 - 50 seconds
Suse 10.2 - 1m 13 seconds.

Regards,
K. Palagin.

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Re: [users] IBM Select Copywrite Principles

[linuxmaillists]

On Saturday 28 April 2007, Dan Lewis wrote:
>  But don't we have to be a little careful in using
> jargon? This seems especially true when there is no
> obvious meaning to those who do not know what it means.
> IIRC is another example that I see once in a while. I
> still have no idea what it means. Besides, these
> abbreviations were created because of much slower modems.
> It would be nice to see the actual words once in a while.
> Assuming the reader knows what our jargon is suppose to
> mean when there is evidence to the contrary does not make
> a lot of sense, does it?

IIRC = If I Remember/Recall Correctly

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion but this one is a farce because 
no opinions are Humble. They should just use IMO

Here is just one of many web sites that have this kind of 
information available.

http://www.geocities.com/ikind_babel/babel/babel.html

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Re: [users] Making mail merge display "stick" / importing user variables from another document

[Jonathon Coombes]

On 01/05/2007, at 2:30 AM, Solveig L Haugland wrote:


Hi,

I was wondering if there's a way to make database field values,  
like Bob Jones and 401 Main Street, stay displayed in a mail merge  
document when I re-open it. I can get the values to display by  
clicking the Data to Fields icon. However, when I close and reopen  
the document, the field names are displayed again, and I need to  
click the Data to Fields icon again to redisplay the content.


Hi Solveig,

This is the way it is designed, so that the database values can be re- 
used next time you do another letter, form etc. If you need a  
"permanent" copy of the document with the values, I believe you are  
required to either print it, or save it as another document name.


In a related topic, is there a way to import User Variable fields  
and their values from one document to another? I'd like to be able  
to use multiple documents to store the same values like Contractor  
Name, Contractor Address, etc. User Variables would be great if  
there were a mass update/import. I can use Insert Reference and Set  
Reference to cross-reference the user variables from one doc to  
another but the correct values aren't displayed except when viewed  
from the master document and that won't work for my client's purposes.


lol! This is an area I came across a couple of years ago when dealing  
with xforms. Under xforms it seemed that you could do this by simply  
dragging the fields to other documents, an while both were open it  
worked, but once re-opened the copy had no values at all. This was  
due to an apparent "bug" that was more feature than bug, but did not  
work as people would have wanted. There is no way of taking values  
across the forms unless you store it in a database. This is  
essentially the solution for the scenario you describe. Other  
software solutions were put forward based on xforms using "XPipes"  
and similar 3rd party methods, but nothing has been implemented  
either in OpenOffice.org or as a standard for this problem.


General question: does anyone have a better way than database  
fields or variables, for this issue? I want to store the same  
values across multiple subdocuments that form one large document,  
about 300-500 pages. The method must allow the document user to  
update the values by changing one value and having all instances of  
that same field in all documents update with the new value. The  
update is easier with bringing in fields from a database, but the  
display thing is a bit annoying to have to do every time. Also, the  
user needs to be able to email out subsections of the document to  
people outside the company, and have all field values correctly  
displayed.


Yep, the exact problem I was looking at. Not sure if any solution is  
possible in OpenOffice.org at this stage other than database.


Regards
Jonathon



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[users] calc printing problem.

[Daryl Sayers]

I am having problems with users trying to print a selection from an
open spreadsheet. If one selects several row/cols and then does a
File -> Print, The menu freezes for 40 seconds or so while waiting for
the printer dialogue box to appear. Then when one selects a printer
and clicks OK it will take a mater of several minutes to print the
selection. In the mean time the openoffice.org screen is frozen. I am
running ubuntu dapper with openoffice.org 2.02 from the normal package
environment. Looking at a top when this is occurring I see the process
consume enormous amounts of cpu time. 

Mem:   2060208k total,  1953932k used,   106276k free,   358436k buffers
Swap:  2498056k total,30796k used,  2467260k free,   685624k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND   
12903 steph 19   0  184m  73m  46m R 85.9  3.6   0:10.05 soffice.bin

Doing a vmstat shows it is not a swap issue so I am now out of ideas.

# vmstat -n 5
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io --system-- cpu
 0  0  30800  63824 357688 68986400   14292 5046  2617 26  4 64  6
 0  0  30800  63840 357696 68986400 0   151 4143  2018 13  3 81  4
-> click File -> print button
 1  0  30800  63096 357696 68987600 017 4135  2019 93  3  4  0
 1  0  30800  62956 357696 68987600 039 4207  2112 97  3  0  0
 1  0  30800  62972 357696 68988400 025 3960  1927 97  3  0  0
 1  0  30800  58336 357716 69107600 0   106 4440  2169 96  4  0  0
 2  0  30800  60440 357720 69107200 1   302 3747  7364 96  4  0  0
 1  0  30800  61976 357728 68989600 0   167 4252  2157 95  5  0  0
 2  0  30800  62016 357732 68989600 033 3768  1723 99  1  0  0
 1  0  30800  62668 357736 68989600 028 3942  1858 98  2  0  0
 1  0  30800  63088 357744 68989600 015 3503  1543 98  2  0  0
-> Print dialogue window appeared.
 0  0  30800  62948 357756 68989600 044 3511  1534 49  3 47  2
 0  0  30800  62964 357760 68989600 019 3459  1526  5  2 92  1

Is there anything else I can check. Is it a known openoffice problem?


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[users] Good place to store Macros for Everyones use...

[hewnix]

I have been looking around and I cannot find out where to put Macros so
they are accessible and everyone using Open Office can use them
Lots on how to write one, but where does one prefer to install them?

WPH

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Re: [users] IBM Select Copywrite Principles

[linuxmaillists]

On Saturday 28 April 2007, Dan Lewis wrote:
>  But don't we have to be a little careful in using
> jargon? This seems especially true when there is no
> obvious meaning to those who do not know what it means.
> IIRC is another example that I see once in a while. I
> still have no idea what it means. Besides, these
> abbreviations were created because of much slower modems.
> It would be nice to see the actual words once in a while.
> Assuming the reader knows what our jargon is suppose to
> mean when there is evidence to the contrary does not make
> a lot of sense, does it?

IIRC = If I Remember/Recall Correctly

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion but this one is a farce because 
no opinions are Humble. They should just use IMO

Here is just one of many web sites that have this kind of 
information available.

http://www.geocities.com/ikind_babel/babel/babel.html

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If the word following begins with 
a vowel, the word you want is...
to read the rest of this, go here 
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