Re: [graphics-users] File format change demand for regression curve (trend line)

2009-07-06 Thread Ingrid Halama

Hi Stephan,

On 07/03/09 22:07, Stephan van den Akker wrote:

Thanks for the information, Ingrid.

Reading this, I have some more questions:

- What is blocking this issue from entering ODF now?
  
The OASIS committee is still busy with finalizing ODF 1.2. During this 
period additional feature changes are postponed.

- What happens after ODF 1.2? I heard talk of a full revision (ODF
2.0). That sounds to me like something that takes years. Will there be
an faster 1.3 round where the new regression curves can be introduced?
  

As far as I know there is no decision about that yet.
My personal expectation is that after 1.2 is finished there will be 
committee drafts for the future version that can be worked with even 
before the future version is absolutely final.


Kind regards,
Ingrid

Greetings,

Stephan van den Akker

  



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Re: [graphics-users] File format change demand for regression curve (trend line)

2009-07-06 Thread Stephan van den Akker
Hi Ingrid,

Is the proposal for regression curves ready to go into the next draft of
ODF?

Stephan van den Akker

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Re: [users] Re: [Resolved?] Re: Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
 Is there a particular version they were using (between x and y) that
 they noticed the issue?  I can only test from 2.4.1 to current.


Thanks, Gary. The problem was just noticed last week, already on 3.1.

I should note that I insist that this is an OOo issue because I have
had a similar problem, also on a spreadsheet that was created in OOo
2.x. However, I do have backups so when I get to my mother-in-law's
place (I only keep the latest backup on-site) I intend to copy those
backups and see exactly where the problem occured. When I know more I
will file an issue and report back.

Thank you!

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Re: [users] Re: [Resolved?] Re: Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
 OK - done. I suspect operator error and/or some other problem with your
 rounding issue. I have tested (as you suggested:

 quote
 in 2.x try entering this into a cell:
 317907977. Open it and modify in a later version of 2.x then in 3.0
 then 3.1. See if it rounds up.
 /quote

 with WinXPPro:

 2.4.1 == 2.4.2 == 3.0.0 == 3.1.0

 No rounding errors, no issues.

 I created a file for each version  can send to you directly if you wish.


Thanks. Send to me the latest, I will see if it rounds here and at the
Latet office.

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[users] Re: 答复: [users] uno python/calc

2009-07-06 Thread Julius
Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 11:55 +0800 schrieb 陈浩(Chen Hao):
 Johnny Rosenberg sent this to the list ,months age . I think maybe it's what
 you need.
 
 
 2009/5/22 陈浩(Chen Hao) chen@neusoft.com:
  When I use the MS-Excel , I offen use Ctrl+; to insert the current 
  date to a cell or after some strings in a cell.
  But i find OOo-Calc did not supply this function or I haven't found it.
 
  So i want to write a Macro to do this , but there are two problems , 
  and i think maybe someone could give me a hand.
 
  1. how to get the current selected cell with basic ? So that i could 
  modify it .
  2. how to change the path that saving the user-defined macros? I offen 
  forgot to backup those things in C-disk when i reinstall my Windows OS 
  _
 
  Thanks very much!
 
  Chen Hao
  Dalian , China
 
 Here's a macro I fou(nd in a forum somewhere:
 
 REM  *  BASIC  *
 
 Option Explicit
 
 Sub InsertDate
   Dim oCell As Object
 
   oCell=ThisComponent.getCurrentController().getSelection()
   If oCell.SupportsService(com.sun.star.sheet.SheetCell) Then
   ' Selection is a single cell
   oCell.setValue(Now())
   Else
   MsgBox You can't do that here
   EndIf
 End Sub
 
 So obviously the currently selected cell is
 ThisComponent.getCurrentController().getSelection()
 
 To get the current stuff from it there are things liks getValue() and
 getString().
 To change the value, you can use, for example, setValue(47.3) and
 setString(Hello World) respectively.
 
 I think there are also a getFormula() and setFormula() available, but I am
 not sure. Use Xray to find out what methods are available for a specific
 object. It's the most helpful tool I used so far with OpenOffice.org BASIC.
 I think it is installed by default these days, if not you can find it
 somewhere, use google…
 
 Well, I guess you got it by now.
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 
 
 
 
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 主题: [users] uno python/calc
 
 Hi,
 
 i found this example
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/python-pyuno-hello-world-addon-openoffic
 e
 
 there they select a cell with:
 cell = sheets.getByIndex(0).getCellByPosition(0, 0)
 
 How can i select a cell in calc and then run my script with that cells
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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Richard Detwiler

Robin Laing wrote:


I have used OOo since before it was OOo.  I have not lost data due to 
the software in any case.


As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information on 
users being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was designed 
for.  It makes it to easy for a simple user error to make a mistake 
and corrupt the data.




I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to corrupt 
the data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please enlighten 
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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Gene Young

Richard Detwiler wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:


I have used OOo since before it was OOo.  I have not lost data due to 
the software in any case.


As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information on 
users being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was designed 
for.  It makes it to easy for a simple user error to make a mistake 
and corrupt the data.




I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to corrupt 
the data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please enlighten 
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Basically a database is for storing and retrieving information.  A 
spreadsheet is primarily for performing calculations on data.  In common 
usage, people have come to use spreadsheets to store information because 
the learning curve is much shallower than learning to work with a database.

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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Robert Holtzman

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Young wrote:


Richard Detwiler wrote:


I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to corrupt the 
data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please enlighten  
thanks.


Basically a database is for storing and retrieving information.  A 
spreadsheet is primarily for performing calculations on data.  In common 
usage, people have come to use spreadsheets to store information because the 
learning curve is much shallower than learning to work with a database.


The answer you stated addresses why people tend to use spreadsheets to 
store data. What I would like to know is why you think information in a 
spreadsheet can be corrupted more easily than that in a data base. As 
the previous said: I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, 
so please enlighten 


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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Gene Young

Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Gene Young wrote:


Richard Detwiler wrote:


I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to 
corrupt the data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please 
enlighten  thanks.


Basically a database is for storing and retrieving information.  A 
spreadsheet is primarily for performing calculations on data.  In 
common usage, people have come to use spreadsheets to store 
information because the learning curve is much shallower than learning 
to work with a database.


The answer you stated addresses why people tend to use spreadsheets to 
store data. What I would like to know is why you think information in a 
spreadsheet can be corrupted more easily than that in a data base. As 
the previous said: I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, 
so please enlighten 


People do not generally protect data in a spreadsheet, so every time it 
is opened by another user, there is the risk that that user might 
accidentally (or deliberately) change something.  Perhaps they have 
their own favorite formats they want to see the spread sheet in.  Maybe 
they prefer everything in 14 point Albertus Medium.  They may apply a 
style to the sheet that gives that appearance and inadvertantly change 
some other format that isn't readily apparent until someone notices that 
the wrong numbers are rounded inappropriately.  There are many scenarios 
that are less than pleasant.


In a properly designed database that possibility is reduced.  Not 
eliminated, but definitely reduced.


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Re: [users] Return Receipt (displayed) - [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor says OO.o won't install.

2009-07-06 Thread Harold Fuchs

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Re: [users] Return Receipt (displayed) - [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor says OO.o won't install.

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Re: [users] Keyboard Shortcuts

2009-07-06 Thread RusMor

 I don't see a limited list; indeed, the list appears much larger than
 anything that can be obtained by default using the mouse. 

  What was meant, I assume, was that one cannot add their own key-bindings.
I perceive this as a problem as well:

... ctrl-f to move forward one character, ...

This is at Navigate | Go Right.  It is bound to the right-arrow key by
default. 

  How does one bind this function (Go Right) to ctrl-f? I have no ctrl-f
in the list of key bindings. 

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RE: [users] Return Receipt (displayed) - [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor says OO.o won't install.

2009-07-06 Thread McLauchlan, Kevin

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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Robin Laing

Gene Young wrote:

Richard Detwiler wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:


I have used OOo since before it was OOo.  I have not lost data due to 
the software in any case.


As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information on 
users being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was designed 
for.  It makes it to easy for a simple user error to make a mistake 
and corrupt the data.




I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to corrupt 
the data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please enlighten 
 thanks.



Basically a database is for storing and retrieving information.  A 
spreadsheet is primarily for performing calculations on data.  In common 
usage, people have come to use spreadsheets to store information because 
the learning curve is much shallower than learning to work with a database.


Also, a database can have fields, records and other areas locked to 
protect data from user input or changes.  Spreadsheets can be sort of 
locked but that isn't perfect either as I have seen so many times in my 
work.


A find and replace in a spreadsheet can be very dangerous if used wrong. 
 A find and replace in a database is much harder to do outside the 
current open record.


Also, linking between data fields is much easier in a database.

I agree that most users know how to use a spreadsheet and have to learn 
a data base program.  It is well worth the time to learn how to use a 
database program for storing records like employee information.


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Re: [users] Keyboard Shortcuts

2009-07-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:51 06/07/2009 -0700, Rusonly Moronly wrote:
What was meant, I assume, was that one cannot add their own 
key-bindings.  I perceive this as a problem as well:


... ctrl-f to move forward one character, ...
This is at Navigate | Go Right.  It is bound to the right-arrow 
key by default.


How does one bind this function (Go Right) to ctrl-f? I have no 
ctrl-f in the list of key bindings.


Really?

o  If you want the binding to work in one component only - perhaps 
Writer or Calc - open a document of that type.

o  Go to Tools | Customize... | Keyboard.
o  At the top right, select OpenOffice.org or the component, as appropriate.
o  Under Category, select Navigate.
o  Under Function, select Go Right.
o  In the Shortcut keys panel, scroll down to and select Ctrl+F.
o  Click Modify.

I trust this helps.

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Re: [users] Return Receipt (displayed) - [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor says OO.o won't install.

2009-07-06 Thread David B Teague

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 06/07/09 04:58, davidbtea...@verizon.net wrote:
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davidbtea...@verizon.net.


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Mr. Teague, please reconfigure your mail system so that it does not 
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Mr Fuchs,

I do not now and I have never caused email to request read-receipts for 
messages. Such things are a waste of everyone's time and resources.  I 
get the noise just as you do, and in fact you have generated a bit of it 
yourself. 

You generated a bit of this noise. You made several unnecessary requests 
to the list about this. I suggest you read your messages more carefully, 
give your answer more thought and make such complaints in off-list email 
to the real offender.


A request person, privately, (you have my email address) would have been 
sufficient, and would have produced less noise for everyone.


I did however respond to such a request, and it appears that is what you 
are complaining about.
I did not originate the request. I repeat, you should read your email a 
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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Per

Q) As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information on users

being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was designed for.  It makes
it to easy for a simple user error to make a mistake and corrupt the data.




A) That is what this organization does. They have pretty good reasons for
not using Base or Access. This is not the place to discuss their
strategies, however, rather how we can help them achieve the goals
that they have set for themselves.


An Q  A: The answer is from Dotan himself in an other mail here at the forum...


We all know that a database is made for, well, databases... but in this case 
it´s not suitable

/( sorry Dotan if I took the liberty to give this answer, but can´t they 
read the mail you wrote earlier ???);-) /


// Per


Robin Laing skrev:

Gene Young wrote:

Richard Detwiler wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:


I have used OOo since before it was OOo.  I have not lost data due 
to the software in any case.


As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information 
on users being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was 
designed for.  It makes it to easy for a simple user error to make 
a mistake and corrupt the data.




I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to 
corrupt the data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please 
enlighten  thanks.



Basically a database is for storing and retrieving information.  A 
spreadsheet is primarily for performing calculations on data.  In 
common usage, people have come to use spreadsheets to store 
information because the learning curve is much shallower than 
learning to work with a database.


Also, a database can have fields, records and other areas locked to 
protect data from user input or changes.  Spreadsheets can be sort of 
locked but that isn't perfect either as I have seen so many times in 
my work.


A find and replace in a spreadsheet can be very dangerous if used 
wrong.  A find and replace in a database is much harder to do outside 
the current open record.


Also, linking between data fields is much easier in a database.

I agree that most users know how to use a spreadsheet and have to 
learn a data base program.  It is well worth the time to learn how to 
use a database program for storing records like employee information.






[users] Re: Return Receipt (displayed) - [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor says OO.o won't install.

2009-07-06 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2009/07/06 3:00 PM  David B Teague wrote:

Mr Fuchs,

I do not now and I have never caused email to request read-receipts 
for messages. Such things are a waste of everyone's time and 
resources.  I get the noise just as you do, and in fact you have 
generated a bit of it yourself.


Reread the thread. You did not request a read-receipt, you sent a return 
receipt. Here is the message you sent:


   From: davidbtea...@verizon.net
   Newsgroups: gmane.comp.openoffice.questions
   Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) - [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor
says OO.o won't install.
   Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:58:47 -0400
 



   This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to
   davidbtea...@verizon.net.

   Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was
   displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that
   the recipient has read or understood the message contents.

You generated a bit of this noise. You made several unnecessary 
requests to the list about this. I suggest you read your messages more 
carefully, give your answer more thought and make such complaints in 
off-list email to the real offender.


He made two postings requesting that you do not send receipts.I'd 
suggest you read them more carefully. He asked you to not send receipts 
to this list, which you had done. You are the real offender. Your sent 
the receipt he is writing about.


I did however respond to such a request, and it appears that is what 
you are complaining about.
I did not originate the request. I repeat, you should read your email 
a bit more carefully.


He did not say you sent the request. You did send the reply, which he 
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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Gene Young

Per wrote:
Q) As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information on 
users
being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was designed for.  It 
makes
it to easy for a simple user error to make a mistake and corrupt the 
data.





A) That is what this organization does. They have pretty good reasons for
not using Base or Access. 


This is not the place to discuss their
strategies, however, 


Why not?  This is a users group and the question was asked by Richard 
Detwiler as to why not to store data in a spreadsheet?  It might be 
stretched that he hijacked the thread but it is pertinent to the 
original problem and this forum is for users to help users.


rather how we can help them achieve the goals

that they have set for themselves.


An Q  A: The answer is from Dotan himself in an other mail here at the 
forum...



We all know that a database is made for, well, databases... but in this 
case it´s not suitable


/( sorry Dotan if I took the liberty to give this answer, but can´t 
they read the mail you wrote earlier ???);-) /




Can't you read the email you are quoting?  Do not be so quick to 
criticize others.  We all understand that Dotan's hands are tied.  We 
were not suggesting that he force his friends to use Base.  Merely 
discussing the pros and cons for someone who asked.




// Per


Robin Laing skrev:

Gene Young wrote:

Richard Detwiler wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:


I have used OOo since before it was OOo.  I have not lost data due 
to the software in any case.


As for data in spreadsheets.  I don't agree with using information 
on users being stored in a spreadsheet.  It isn't what it was 
designed for.  It makes it to easy for a simple user error to make 
a mistake and corrupt the data.







Note the question to which we responded:
I'm a bit confused by the statement about how information on users 
shouldn't be stored in a spreadsheet, because it is so easy to 
corrupt the data.


Does this suggest that the only information that should be put in a 
spreadsheet is data where it doesn't matter if it gets corrupted?


If so, that would significantly reduce the usefulness of spreadsheets.

I assume there is some key point that I'm missing, so please 
enlighten  thanks.







Basically a database is for storing and retrieving information.  A 
spreadsheet is primarily for performing calculations on data.  In 
common usage, people have come to use spreadsheets to store 
information because the learning curve is much shallower than 
learning to work with a database.


Also, a database can have fields, records and other areas locked to 
protect data from user input or changes.  Spreadsheets can be sort of 
locked but that isn't perfect either as I have seen so many times in 
my work.


A find and replace in a spreadsheet can be very dangerous if used 
wrong.  A find and replace in a database is much harder to do outside 
the current open record.


Also, linking between data fields is much easier in a database.

I agree that most users know how to use a spreadsheet and have to 
learn a data base program.  It is well worth the time to learn how to 
use a database program for storing records like employee information.







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Re: [users] Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Mike Shearer
I have abandoned using BASE and use CALC instead.  Very little of my 
CALC data is numeric.  BASE was too hard to set up, the documentation 
was more confusing than helpful.


But since the latest upgrade CALC has a serious bug.  Copying a cell 
that is a formula into a set of other cells either crashes the job, or 
the copying works but the calculated values are not displayed. 
Something as simple as setting up a running total in a column (B2 = 
B1+A2 etc), or setting a date column of every Monday in a year so that 
the entries are automatically worked out (cell A1 = first date, then A2 
=A1+7 and so on)


Mike Shearer
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[users] Re: Major data loss: Calc formatting numbers

2009-07-06 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 07/07/09 00:10, Mike Shearer wrote:
I have abandoned using BASE and use CALC instead.  Very little of my 
CALC data is numeric.  BASE was too hard to set up, the documentation 
was more confusing than helpful.


But since the latest upgrade CALC has a serious bug.  Copying a cell 
that is a formula into a set of other cells either crashes the job, or 
the copying works but the calculated values are not displayed. 


Errm. If you have a set of numbers in column A and then, starting in B3 
you enter the formula =A1+A2 then B3 will contain the sum of A1 and 
A2. If you drag the formula down column B then

  B4 will contain the sum of B2 and B3
  B5 B3 B4

etc.

If you now copy, say B5 into E5, E5 will contain **0**. Why? Because 
Calc has automagically adjusted the formula to read =D3+D4. This is 
the way pretty much all spreadsheets work. When copying a *named* value 
(A1 is a name), the name's two parts (row number and column letter) 
are considered relative unless preceded by a $ symbol.


Thus the value in cell A4 can be referred to in 4 different ways:
1. A4 meaning that both the A and the 4 are relative and thus subject to 
automagic adjustment as above.
2. $A4 meaning the A is fixed (not subject to automagic adjustment) but 
the 4 is relative. Copying such a value in the context above would 
result in the column letter being copied as is but the row numbers being 
adjusted as necessary.

3. A$4 meaning the A is relative but the 4 is fixed
4. $A$4 meaning both the A and the 4 are fixed.

It is worth playing with these combinations to see the differences. In 
particular, try setting B3 in the above example to

1) =A$1+A$2 and then dragging B3 down column B
2) =$A$1+$A$2 and then, after dragging B3 down column B, copy/paste 
column B into, say, column F.


Now, I'm not saying you haven't found a bug but your description of what 
you see represents correct behaviour on Calc's part. Of course I don't 
mean that crashing the job is correct behaviour. If you really get 
that repeatedly please file a bug and let us know its number.


Please also tell us which version of OOo you are using and on which 
version of which Operating System.



Something
as simple as setting up a running total in a column (B2 = B1+A2 etc), or 
setting a date column of every Monday in a year so that the entries are 
automatically worked out (cell A1 = first date, then A2 =A1+7 and so on)


Mike Shearer
Townsville, Queensland, Australia



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Re: [users] Moving a Table

2009-07-06 Thread Marko Baloković
It does, but I meant moving it arund the screen in the same document.



From: Harold Fuchs 
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:20 PM
To: users@openoffice.org ; marko.baloko...@ymail.com 
Subject: Re: [users] Moving a Table


On 05/07/09 11:34, Dotan Cohen wrote: 
Greetings,
I'd like to know how to move a table in Writer. Yes, I tried selecting it and 
then dragging it.


Selecting the table then cut / paste works for me in OOo 3.1 on
Kubuntu 9.04. Does this not work for you?

  
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[users] HOW TO put sequential page numbers on any kind of document!?

2009-07-06 Thread Eugene Abravanel
I
am having a terribly difficult time trying to figure out how to put
sequential page numbers on any kind of document. for example: I have a
29 page document and the only thing I have been able to do is put in
one number at a time. Could somebody please tell me how to put in
sequential numbers for example one through 29 in the lower right-hand
corner. Sincerely, EVA



  

Re: [users] Problem opening files

2009-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Gagliardi

works! great! thank you!

Giuseppe Gagliardi

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 From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
 Subject: Re: [users] Problem opening files
 To: users@openoffice.org, gagli...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:09 AM
 gagli...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I have all my work in doc,xcl,ppt..I installed
 Openoffice hoping would work better than Office which I
 erased because it was a defective pirate copy. Now, when I
 try to open let's say an MS word doc the computer does not
 automatically know what program to usee to open it. I've
 read that this option of recognizing the right program can
 be modified during installation but I reinstalled three
 times without finding it. How do I geet the right program to
 recognixe the rghtfil. And last, what a ptoblem did mjkkl? 
 
  A disc
 
    
 
 You have to set the file associations for those
 files.  Assuming you're
 running Windows, you can follow these directions:
 
 Changing file associations
 
 Right click on file icon
 Select Open With  Choose Program...
 Check Always use the selected program to open this kind of
 file and
 choose the desired application.
 If that method is not available, follow the directions
 listed here:
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859
 
 




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[users] Open Office 3.1

2009-07-06 Thread Don Jarvis
Recently I upgraded from Open Office 2 to 3.1.
Since doing so I am unable to open emails with pps or xls attachments.
Why? and how do I correct this?

Hope someone can help,

Thanks in advance,

Don Jarvis

[users] Issues

2009-07-06 Thread José Inda
I was a big supported of Open Office until recently, and today I encountered
the last tip that filled de cup.
I can't open Draw in my computer (I double click odg file and it doesn't
open - I try opening Draw and then the file and it doesn't work either, Draw
doesn't open at all)
I tried to feedback this problem and I found the site doesn't have an easy
bug report system. I won't recomend Open Office any more.


Re: [users] Issues

2009-07-06 Thread Wade Smart

José Inda wrote:

I was a big supported of Open Office until recently, and today I encountered
the last tip that filled de cup.
I can't open Draw in my computer (I double click odg file and it doesn't
open - I try opening Draw and then the file and it doesn't work either, Draw
doesn't open at all)
I tried to feedback this problem and I found the site doesn't have an easy
bug report system. I won't recomend Open Office any more.



20090706 2110 GMT-5

Okay. That only hurts you.
Why? Because you didnt 1) ask for help 2) try to figure out why it wont 
work on YOUR computer as it works fine on others.


Wade

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Re: [users] HOW TO put sequential page numbers on any kind of document!?

2009-07-06 Thread James Knott
Eugene Abravanel wrote:
 I
 am having a terribly difficult time trying to figure out how to put
 sequential page numbers on any kind of document. for example: I have a
 29 page document and the only thing I have been able to do is put in
 one number at a time. Could somebody please tell me how to put in
 sequential numbers for example one through 29 in the lower right-hand
 corner. Sincerely, EVA



   
   
Place the cursor where you want the page number to be and then click on
Insert  Fields  Page Number.  You may want to have the page number in
a header or footer, instead of the main part of the document.


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Re: [users] Issues

2009-07-06 Thread James Knott
José Inda wrote:
 I was a big supported of Open Office until recently, and today I encountered
 the last tip that filled de cup.
 I can't open Draw in my computer (I double click odg file and it doesn't
 open - I try opening Draw and then the file and it doesn't work either, Draw
 doesn't open at all)
 I tried to feedback this problem and I found the site doesn't have an easy
 bug report system. I won't recomend Open Office any more.

   
What happens if you first open OpenOffice and then try to open the file
using File  Open?


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Read: [users] Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor says OO.o won't install.

2009-07-06 Thread Jo-Anne
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[users] Re: Issues

2009-07-06 Thread NoOp
On 07/06/2009 10:11 AM, José Inda wrote:
 I was a big supported of Open Office until recently, and today I encountered
 the last tip that filled de cup.
 I can't open Draw in my computer (I double click odg file and it doesn't
 open - I try opening Draw and then the file and it doesn't work either, Draw
 doesn't open at all)
 I tried to feedback this problem and I found the site doesn't have an easy
 bug report system. I won't recomend Open Office any more.
 

Isn't allowing unsubscribed posters wonderful... José Inda also posted
the same to the discuss list (unsubscribed of course) and who knows how
many others.



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[users] problem

2009-07-06 Thread lynn provost
Dear Sir, 
Whenever I try to open a document a box pops up displaying : document opened in 
read only mode so basically I am stuck.
Can you help, please?
Jan Provost.


  

[users] Calc shortcuts for italicizing and decreasing font size?

2009-07-06 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
Hello openoffice list:

I am in search of a shortcut for both italicizing the selected text and
decreasing the fontsize to 1 size smaller.

I wonder who can point me to some info about that. I tried customizing
keyboard shortcuts but it seems that it is not adequate for this task.

Thanks and Have a nice Day/Evening.

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Re: [users] problem

2009-07-06 Thread Wade Smart

lynn provost wrote:
Dear Sir, 
Whenever I try to open a document a box pops up displaying : document opened in read only mode so basically I am stuck.

Can you help, please?
Jan Provost.


20090706 2150 GMT-5

The icon tool bar under File Edit View etc., fifth button over is a 
little piece of paper with a pencil on it. Click it. It says Edit 
File. You'll be able to edit the file now.


Wade


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[users] High Contrast bug?

2009-07-06 Thread Eustace
One reason I do not use a High Contrast theme in Windows Vista (as I 
hadn't in XP) is that the tables in OOo Calc pick up the windows colors 
even though in Tools  Options  OpenOffice.org  Accessibility I have 
left all the checkboxes in Options for High Contrast appearance 
unchecked. Am I missing something or is it a bug? And if it is a bug has 
it been reported?


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