Re: [users] Questions
2010/3/12 Yachoved yacho...@yahoo.com: I'm new to Openoffice software and would like to create a database, but can't find how to do this in Openoffice. I'm not sure I have the latest version. The version I am using is 2.4.1. The problem I'm having is I don't know what type or version of Linux I'm using, ie 32.bit DEB, 64.bit RPM or 64.bit DEB and I can't seem to find out where to look for it. What Linux distribution do you use? You can see that on the logo when you start up your computer. Here are a few popular distros: Ubuntu Fedora OpenSUSE Mandriva Mint Debian RedHat PCLinuxOS Puppy The most popular one seems to be Ubuntu since a few years back, and I personally use it since summer 2007. If you have Ubuntu and upgrade it to the latest stable version, your OpenOffice.org will automatically be upgraded to one of the latest versions, I think 3.1.1 or something like that. It's not the absolute latest OpenOffice.org version, but it's certainly many years later than the very old 2.4.1. You can also uninstall your current OpenOffice.org version and install the newest one from http://www.openoffice.org/. If you distro's desktop environment is Gnome, you can click System → Administration → System monitor → System (or something like that, I have the Swedish version of Ubuntu 9.10…) to see what version of what distro you have. If you have KDE, or anything else but Gnome, I don't know, but maybe someone else does. There are several advantages to use the latest OpenOffice.org version. Among those there is speed - they did a lot of work increasing speed since 3.something and the old 2.4.1 was very slow and a real pain. Since I don't work with databases myself I can not answer your actual question, but I would try to New document → Database (or something like that - again I use the Swedish version…) and try to navigate from there. As you might have guessed, I'm totally new to using Linux, but I like it. I am using it on a laptop I purchased from a friend. He partitioned the drive so I could use both Windows as a operating system and try Linux. That worked wonderful until the Windows side became infected with a virus and now I can't even get onto that side. I know this is long and you have millions of emails to read, but I really need to use the database portion of Openoffice but I can't find it in my system. I would really like to get it started soon, so if possible could someone please get back to me on this matter? No, there are no millions of emails. We are all OpenOffice.org users like you who help each other out, nothing more, nothing less, so every question you ask gets forwarded to all the OpenOffice.org users that are subscribed to this list. If you are subscribed you will also receive other peoples questions and you can answer those if you like. The more you use OpenOffice.org the more you learn and the more likely that you know the answers of other peoples questions and then you can help other people in this list if you want to. That's kind of how it works here. Regards Johnny Rosenberg Thanks you, Johnnie T. aka Yachoved - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Problemi istallazione
2010/3/12 boyfrank boy.fra...@live.it: (errore 1310 Errore durante la scrittura dei file: C:\ProgramData\Windows\Templates\soffice.old. Assicuratevi di disporre dei diritti di accesso alla cartella.) Ho eseguito il setup come amministratore...come posso fare? Cordiali Saluti- Sorry, this list is English only. Try the Italian list instead (or write to this list in English): ute...@it.openoffice.org Regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
2010/3/13 Ann aglo...@yahoo.com: When I initially started using openoffice in lieu of microsoft word I had no problems. For some reason something changed and docs saved as office with .doc extension do not keep the extension when attached in an email. Also, They don't appear in the directory as a .doc. Something is screwy and I can't figure it out. Help please. So exactly what do they appear as in ”the directory”? Regards Johnny Rosenberg Thanks, Ann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Problemi istallazione
boyfrank wrote: (errore 1310 Errore durante la scrittura dei file: C:\ProgramData\Windows\Templates\soffice.old. Assicuratevi di disporre dei diritti di accesso alla cartella.) Ho eseguito il setup come amministratore...come posso fare? Cordiali Saluti- Sorry, this list is English only. Try the Italian list instead (or write to this list in English):ute...@it.openoffice.org Regards Johnny Rosenberg CC sent to original poster as he or she is not subscribed to this mailing list. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
Ann wrote: When I initially started using openoffice in lieu of microsoft word I had no problems. For some reason something changed and docs saved as office with .doc extension do not keep the extension when attached in an email. Also, They don't appear in the directory as a .doc. Something is screwy and I can't figure it out. Help please. Thanks, Ann When you save a document for the first time, the Save As window opens. At the bottom near the middle is a check box. It is labeled Automatic file name extension. This should be checked. Normally, it is, but if you accidentally unchecked it, it will remain unchecked until you save a document and check the box. Just be sure to look at this check box when you save a file for the first time. To correct the files which have this problem, open them in OpenOffice.org and use Save As. To do this, click File to open the File menu. Click Save As. This time make sure that this check box is checked when you save the file. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
On 2010-03-13 7:23 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: When you save a document for the first time, the Save As window opens. At the bottom near the middle is a check box. It is labeled Automatic file name extension. This should be checked. Normally, it is, but if you accidentally unchecked it, it will remain unchecked until you save a document and check the box. Just be sure to look at this check box when you save a file for the first time. To correct the files which have this problem, open them in OpenOffice.org and use Save As. To do this, click File to open the File menu. Click Save As. This time make sure that this check box is checked when you save the file. Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... -- Charles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-03-13 7:23 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: When you save a document for the first time, the Save As window opens. At the bottom near the middle is a check box. It is labeled Automatic file name extension. This should be checked. Normally, it is, but if you accidentally unchecked it, it will remain unchecked until you save a document and check the box. Just be sure to look at this check box when you save a file for the first time. To correct the files which have this problem, open them in OpenOffice.org and use Save As. To do this, click File to open the File menu. Click Save As. This time make sure that this check box is checked when you save the file. Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
2010/3/13 Richard Detwiler rlsha...@aol.com: Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-03-13 7:23 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: When you save a document for the first time, the Save As window opens. At the bottom near the middle is a check box. It is labeled Automatic file name extension. This should be checked. Normally, it is, but if you accidentally unchecked it, it will remain unchecked until you save a document and check the box. Just be sure to look at this check box when you save a file for the first time. To correct the files which have this problem, open them in OpenOffice.org and use Save As. To do this, click File to open the File menu. Click Save As. This time make sure that this check box is checked when you save the file. Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. I have an idea about that: Maybe you can type the file suffix yourself and then OpenOffice.org saves in that format automatically? I don't know, didn't try it myself since I refuse to save as anything but ODF. Regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Questions
On Friday 12 March 2010 13:42:01 Yachoved wrote: I'm new to Openoffice software and would like to create a database, but can't find how to do this in Openoffice. I'm not sure I have the latest version. The version I am using is 2.4.1. The problem I'm having is I don't know what type or version of Linux I'm using, ie 32.bit DEB, 64.bit RPM or 64.bit DEB and I can't seem to find out where to look for it. As you might have guessed, I'm totally new to using Linux, but I like it. I am using it on a laptop I purchased from a friend. He partitioned the drive so I could use both Windows as a operating system and try Linux. That worked wonderful until the Windows side became infected with a virus and now I can't even get onto that side. I know this is long and you have millions of emails to read, but I really need to use the database portion of Openoffice but I can't find it in my system. I would really like to get it started soon, so if possible could someone please get back to me on this matter? Thanks you, Johnnie T. aka Yachoved To find out what version of Linux you are using open a terminal and type the following: more /etc/*release* That file will tell you what you are running. As for OOo Base, I don't think many Linux distros install Base by default. I have yet to figure out why that is but such is life. You will need to open your distro package manager and search for packages with the word OpenOffice. This will list all the OpenOffice.org packages that your distro has (including those installed). Scroll down the list until you find base and install it. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 09:40:45AM -0500, Richard Detwiler wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. Some operating systems don't need the extensions for all documents. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[users] Re: Help needed
It would appear that on Mar 13, Richard Detwiler did say: Tanstaafl wrote: Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. IMHO any user who does have such a special need should be capable of using a shell command to rename the file after OO.o is done writing it. That said, some new users might feel secure seeing visual evidence that the appropriate file extension will automatically be added. So perhaps, instead of a checkbox, there could just be an informational line that the correct file ext _WILL_ be automatically used. Or even better, Why not leave the check box in place, but always open the dialog box with it checked by default instead of remembering it's previous state??? Just an Idea! -- | --- ___ | 0 - Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P |~\___/~ jtw...@ttlc.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help needed
Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: IMHO any user who does have such a special need should be capable of using a shell command to rename the file after OO.o is done writing it. That said, some new users might feel secure seeing visual evidence that the appropriate file extension will automatically be added. So perhaps, instead of a checkbox, there could just be an informational line that the correct file ext_WILL_ be automatically used. Or even better, Why not leave the check box in place, but always open the dialog box with it checked by default instead of remembering it's previous state??? Just an Idea! IMHO any user who does have such a special need should be capable of using a shell command to rename the file after OO.o is done writing it. That said, some new users might feel secure seeing visual evidence that the appropriate file extension will automatically be added. So perhaps, instead of a checkbox, there could just be an informational line that the correct file ext_WILL_ be automatically used. Or even better, Why not leave the check box in place, but always open the dialog box with it checked by default instead of remembering it's previous state??? Just an Idea! Update: The lady who asked for the help has been helped by those of us who were willing to CC her because she is not a member of this mailing list. So the problem has apparently been solved. For those who used this thread to question the need for the Automatic file name extension: why don't one of you file an issue and make your suggestions there? That is how things like this can be changed. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Ping Cor] Re: odt table bug?
On 03/12/2010 07:17 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Cor, can you test this with your 3.1x version? I'm sick (bad cold) and can't seem to locate my old 3.1x downloads at the moment. Gary Earlier I mentioned that I could not open the document properly using 3.2.0 on Ubuntu. (I use the *.deb installation files from the OOo web site.) The Build is 320m12 (build: 9483). So there is no difference between the m11 and m12 versions. The table in the .doc file is not preserved when the file is opened. I also have a developer snapshot on my computer OOo-dev 3.30 [DEV300m72(build9484). It will open the Table VI-3.doc file and preserve the table. There were a couple of cells which needed a minor adjustment in width. I also saved this .doc file as an .odt file. Then I opened the .odt file using 3.2.0, and the file opened with the table in tact. So, whatever the problem, they seem to have solved it in the developer snapshots. No. The issue is still there. I just tested the .odt with OOo 3.3.0 M75-dev, saved it to a doc the table does not remain intact. Also tested with M69-dev - same results (all linux). Found a machine with 3.1.1. on it - windows - and the table is preserved (again albeit with some slight formating errors). Found the archive mirror downloading 3.1.1 linux (all standard OOo) and will test with that as well. I suspect the results will be the same (works with 3.1.1 but not with 3.2 or 3.3). I'll file a bug on Monday if I'm feeling better by then. Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Paste Unformatted Text option
On 2010-03-11 17:51 Bob Long wrote: Hi Dotan, Do other people paste from outside OOo to within OOo on a regular basis? Do you have problems with text formatting (specifically, the fact that formatting is preseved)? I filed an issue for a feature request to let the user select Format Unformatted Text be the default paste option, however, it does not seem to be progressing: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103327 Based on the use cases that I've seen, I expected this to be a popular feature. Is no one else interested in it? I am only asking to gauge other user's opinions of the need for such a feature. It is in fact possible to add your own item for Paste Unformatted Text onto a toolbar. I'm doing this in Windows, OOo 3.2, Writer. Edit: see final paragraph. Tools|Customise|Toolbars (the tab) and select, say, Standard toolbar. You'll see below that a list of icons that are currently displayed on the toolbar (those with ticks). But there is not one there for Paste Unformatted. So click Add... button, select Category Edit from left column, then select Paste Unformatted Text from right column|Add|Close. It will add it to the list of Toolbar commands. You can move it to the position you want with the up/down arrows there. By default, it does not have an icon associated with it, but you can change that by selecting the command and using Modify|Change Icon Hmmm... I just read the bug report after writing the above and there it mentions you are interested in Calc, not Writer. The same customise process does not work... the closest I could get was to adding a Paste Special icon, which then brings up an option of Unformatted text, requiring some more mouse clicks. I have an icon for Paste Unformatted (similar to the Paste) at the end of the Formatting toolbar in the Writer. I also have a button in the Calc at the same place, but somehow it does not want to show the icon assigned to it, it only shows the title. I would prefer it too if the default Paste was unformatted, or if the default could be changed. emf -- It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/bd/itaintmebabe.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: odt table bug?
On 03/12/2010 09:40 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 11.03.2010 18:56, NoOp a écrit : ... Confirmed. I just tried in go-oo/Ubuntu 3.2.0 (OOO320m11 Build:9479) and the table isn't preserved there either. So it appears to be a regression from 3.1.1. I'll load up a standard OOo 3.1.x and test in the next 1-2 days file a bug report based on the results. Hi, I do not understand well if the table in the original text document has been copied from Calc or not. In fact there is already a bug report for tables copied from Calc to Writer. Please have a look at issue 108978 : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=108978 Best regards. JBF That could be the issue will have a closer look - thanks. I believe the OP mentioned that the original table might have been created in Excel. Unfortunately, Pedro has been messing with this doc for a long time. I recall awhile back that I mentioned to him that it might have been easier just to rewrite the entire thing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Ping Cor] Re: odt table bug?
On 03/13/2010 05:04 PM, NoOp wrote: On 03/12/2010 07:17 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Cor, can you test this with your 3.1x version? I'm sick (bad cold) and can't seem to locate my old 3.1x downloads at the moment. Gary Earlier I mentioned that I could not open the document properly using 3.2.0 on Ubuntu. (I use the *.deb installation files from the OOo web site.) The Build is 320m12 (build: 9483). So there is no difference between the m11 and m12 versions. The table in the .doc file is not preserved when the file is opened. I also have a developer snapshot on my computer OOo-dev 3.30 [DEV300m72(build9484). It will open the Table VI-3.doc file and preserve the table. There were a couple of cells which needed a minor adjustment in width. I also saved this .doc file as an .odt file. Then I opened the .odt file using 3.2.0, and the file opened with the table in tact. So, whatever the problem, they seem to have solved it in the developer snapshots. No. The issue is still there. I just tested the .odt with OOo 3.3.0 M75-dev, saved it to a doc the table does not remain intact. Also tested with M69-dev - same results (all linux). Found a machine with 3.1.1. on it - windows - and the table is preserved (again albeit with some slight formating errors). Found the archive mirror downloading 3.1.1 linux (all standard OOo) and will test with that as well. I suspect the results will be the same (works with 3.1.1 but not with 3.2 or 3.3). I'll file a bug on Monday if I'm feeling better by then. Gary Just tested w/OOo 3.1.1 (standard) linux OOO310m19 Build:9420 and the table is preserved. So the issue is a definite regression from 3.1.1. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
Ann wrote: When I initially started using openoffice in lieu of microsoft word I had no problems. For some reason something changed and docs saved as office with .doc extension do not keep the extension when attached in an email. Also, They don't appear in the directory as a .doc. Something is screwy and I can't figure it out. Help please. Thanks, Ann When you use Save as, check to make sure automatic filename extension is selected. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-03-13 7:23 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: When you save a document for the first time, the Save As window opens. At the bottom near the middle is a check box. It is labeled Automatic file name extension. This should be checked. Normally, it is, but if you accidentally unchecked it, it will remain unchecked until you save a document and check the box. Just be sure to look at this check box when you save a file for the first time. To correct the files which have this problem, open them in OpenOffice.org and use Save As. To do this, click File to open the File menu. Click Save As. This time make sure that this check box is checked when you save the file. Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... It's a problem in Windows, but not Linux, OS/2 and I expect Mac. Unlike other operating systems, Windows still relies on the file extension to determine the file type. Is the rest of the world supposed to be stuck in the past because Microsoft can't get it's act together? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
Richard Detwiler wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-03-13 7:23 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: When you save a document for the first time, the Save As window opens. At the bottom near the middle is a check box. It is labeled Automatic file name extension. This should be checked. Normally, it is, but if you accidentally unchecked it, it will remain unchecked until you save a document and check the box. Just be sure to look at this check box when you save a file for the first time. To correct the files which have this problem, open them in OpenOffice.org and use Save As. To do this, click File to open the File menu. Click Save As. This time make sure that this check box is checked when you save the file. Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. In other operating systems an extension is not needed. I use Linux here, which does not need the extension. I also used OS/2, for many years and again the file extension is not necessary. It's only Windows that's crippled in this regard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. I have an idea about that: Maybe you can type the file suffix yourself and then OpenOffice.org saves in that format automatically? I don't know, didn't try it myself since I refuse to save as anything but ODF. I believe you're running Linux. In that case, you can ignore extensions, unless you want to open the files in Windows. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help needed
Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: It would appear that on Mar 13, Richard Detwiler did say: Tanstaafl wrote: Which begs the question - why is that checkbox even there? All it does is cause this problem (our users have been bit by it a lot too)... Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. IMHO any user who does have such a special need should be capable of using a shell command to rename the file after OO.o is done writing it. That said, some new users might feel secure seeing visual evidence that the appropriate file extension will automatically be added. The only problem with that is Windows will often hide the extension. So, where you need it most, you don't see it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Paste Unformatted Text option
Eustace wrote, [..] I have an icon for Paste Unformatted (similar to the Paste) at the end of the Formatting toolbar in the Writer. How did that get there? Did you customise it or was it there as part of the initial installation? OOo version? Is it definitely Paste Unformatted which immediately pastes, or does it invoke a dialog from which you then choose unformatted text? If you customised it, what did you select from the category and command columns? I also have a button in the Calc at the same place, but somehow it does not want to show the icon assigned to it, it only shows the title. Strange. Have you re-tried the modify button and change icon... procedure? -- Bob Long I would prefer it too if the default Paste was unformatted, or if the default could be changed. emf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help needed
On 3/13/2010 4:04 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: For those who used this thread to question the need for the Automatic file name extension: why don't one of you file an issue and make your suggestions there? That is how things like this can be changed. Because filing an OOo issue is extraordinarily, ridiculously overly complicated - unless things have changed drastically since the last time I tried... And I'm a techie... god forbid someone not technically inclined tried to do so. -- Best regards, Charles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help needed
On 03/13/10 20:36, James Knott wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. I have an idea about that: Maybe you can type the file suffix yourself and then OpenOffice.org saves in that format automatically? I don't know, didn't try it myself since I refuse to save as anything but ODF. I believe you're running Linux. In that case, you can ignore extensions, unless you want to open the files in Windows. Even though you don't need the extensions in Linux, it's still a good idea to have them attached, just in case you forget what format they are. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[users] Filing and Issue ( was: Re: [users] Re: Help needed)
Because filing an OOo issue is extraordinarily, ridiculously overly complicated - unless things have changed drastically since the last time I tried... Hi, May I ask which public access issue tracking systems you use, or are familiar with, that you would say are easy to use? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help needed
On 03/13/10 15:04, Daniel Lewis wrote: snip Update: The lady who asked for the help has been helped by those of us who were willing to CC her because she is not a member of this mailing list. So the problem has apparently been solved. snip OK, so what was the problem and how did it get solved? -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [users] Re: Help needed
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 09:38:19PM -0500, James Knott wrote: ..snip The only problem with that is Windows will often hide the extension. So, where you need it most, you don't see it. My windows days are long behind me but I remember an option to always show extensions. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[users] Re: Re: Help needed
It would appear that on Mar 13, James Knott did say: Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: It would appear that on Mar 13, Richard Detwiler did say: Good question -- not sure why anyone would ever have the need or desire to save a file w/o the file name extension. IMHO any user who does have such a special need should be capable of using a shell command to rename the file after OO.o is done writing it. That said, some new users might feel secure seeing visual evidence that the appropriate file extension will automatically be added. The only problem with that is Windows will often hide the extension. So, where you need it most, you don't see it. About windows we agree. (Though a wise win user can configure it to stop hiding the extensions) But as far as my understanding was that up to the point where I responded to this sub-thread about the durned checkbox Nobody (including myself) was suggesting we make the default be to omit the extension that windows so badly needs. What I was suggesting was that if (for example) somebody were to do a save as to word format and type a filename of sillydocument which was then automatically saved as sillydocument.doc instead. But they had an unusual special need that it should be otherwise, then that unusual special need would (to me) imply that they were capable of fixing this outside of open office such as for example using a *nix command shell: $ mv sillydocument.doc sillydocument It kind of went without saying that the windows user would be unlikely to be in a position to have that particular special need. The problem that (I thought) was being discussed was that if one ever unchecked that box (being personally a klutz with the mouse I could do this by accident without even noticing) Then for all future save as dialog boxes until one noticed and rechecked said box, the default would be to omit it unless you typed it in yourself as part of the filename. I tend to favor the concept of setting a persistent default of automatically using the extension. So that unchecking the box only works for the instance of the save as dialog in which it was unchecked. While I don't actually need the file extensions, I find them visually useful. However I routinely verify that a save as file did in fact, save as expected, where expected, by switching to an xterm where I use mc to quickly show me the contents of the target directory. So if the checkbox gets unchecked in MY copy of OO.o I'll discover it the first time I do a save as. Then I'll promptly do a: $mv sillydocument sillydocument.doc Then I'll go recheck the checkbox (just in case). Which means that, speaking for myself, this isn't much of an issue anyhow. -- | --- --- | Joe (theWordy) Philbrooko o | J(tWdy)P ^ | jtw...@ttlc.net /---\ bla bla bla... | \___/ ...and bla... At least I know my mouth is running, I just can't find the off button! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
