Re: [users] toggle functions

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

 What do you mean by "Highlight"?

Can you write a single macro to do this? My guess is that it can be done
if you desire to do so. the trick, however, is that your macro must be
able to determine the current state so that it can be toggled.

You say that you have a macro that turns it on, and one that turns it off.

Can you post the macros for this and let me have a look?

On 08/20/2010 10:05 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> Good morning
> I am sure, I will make myself with this question - which I actually
> posted already 2-3 times in the past - the most unpopular person on the
> list.
>
> Toggle functions/features.
> Hit F5 -> get the navigator; hit F5 again -> the navigator disappears.
> Ctrl+shift+p -> superscript; Ctrl+shift+p -> superscript back to normal.
>
> The first example is a function, the second a font attribute. THIS
> apparently works.
> I have tried in the past to assign a key combination to "highlight" text
> and then remove the highlight.
> Upon asking, I was told, the ONLY way to achieve this is by creating
> **TWO DIFFERENT** macros.
> THAT is what I did and currently use.
>
> But isn't this rather stupid (mysterious):
> I CAN toggle the font attribute "superscript" with the SAME key ON/OFF
> But I can NOT toggle the font attribute "highlight" ON/OFF.
> (I have been working on this for a very long time already ...)
>
> WHY???
>
> Never in the past when I posted this question has anyone attempted (not
> to mention succeeded) to answer this question.
> And, as a matter of course, this feature is available in almost ALL
> other software that I use/know.
>
>
> Anything that makes sense would be highly appreciated. Even this were
> not possible technically (rather difficult to believe!), I would like to
> know the REASON instead of quietely dealing with this schizophrenic
> behavior.
>
> Thank you.

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Re: [users] Last cursor position

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

 Place the cursor where you want it and then choose file > Save. When I
open the document again, the cursor is where it was when I last saved
the document. Is this not the case for you? Very odd indeed. It has
always done this for me. Is there some configuration setting that
controls this?

On 08/20/2010 09:52 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> Good morning
> (OO 3.2)
> This relates to the other question I posted a few minutes ago, but
> considered it advisable to open a new thread.
>
> I frequently have to open, close and reopen documents, usually 20-30
> pages long.
> EVERY time I reopen a document, the cursor starts at the top of the
> document.
> This is maybe normal, but not where I was working when I closed the
> document.
>
> I have been told before, that I could set bookmarks and jump to that
> position.
> I know I can do that, but that is not really helpful. The last cursor
> position is different every time I save the document and even if I set a
> bookmark -> close the document -> reopen it:
> the cursor still will be at the top of the document and I have to
> perform several key or mouse actions to manually jump to the last
> WORKING position. (in this also a number of unnecessary bookmarks
> accumulates)
>
> In Wordperfect there is something called "quickmark" -> a bookmark set
> automatically at the cursor postion when saving the file and to which
> the cursor jumps automatically when the file is reopened.
>
> Is there something as elegant as this, or do I have to put up with
> manually scrolling/jumping through dozens of pages each time I open a file?
>
> Thank you.
>
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[users] Re: Making labels from a spreadsheet

[NoOp]

On 08/19/2010 10:07 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 22:18 19/08/2010 -0400, Ted Trobaugh wrote:
>>For my information: what did you mean by "As you will have seen (or 
>>perhaps not, as you are using Gmail)?"
> 
> I'm not an expert on this, but I believe that if a Gmail user sends a 
> message to a mailing list, Gmail (sometimes?) suppresses the copy of 
> the message that is returned to the author, on the principle that 
> there is already a copy in the user's "sent items" (or wherever).  If 
> that were the case, you might not have known that your screen shot 
> didn't make it to other subscribers; that's the only reason I 
> mentioned the fact.
> 
> Brian Barker



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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[RA Brown]

Brian Barker wrote:

At 15:09 20/08/2010 -0700, RA Brown wrote:

TomW wrote:

On 2010-08-20 15:29, RA Brown wrote:
John/Andy:
The styles in question are under 'Paragraph Styles', not 'List Styles'.


The only thing I see is List Indent under "Paragraph Styles"


They are not list styles, but they are in the List Styles sub-category 
of paragraph styles.  In the Styles and Formatting window, click the 
Paragraph Styles button.  Then go to the drop-down list at the bottom of 
the Styles and Formatting window; you will need to set this to either 
List Styles or All Styles in order to see the styles being discussed 
(unless you have used them in the current document, in which case they 
will also appear under Applied Styles, of course).


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



Thanks Brian.  I knew that I had seen those styles somewhere.

Being paragraph styles it will be easier to explain.


Andy

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[Brian Barker]

At 15:09 20/08/2010 -0700, RA Brown wrote:

TomW wrote:

On 2010-08-20 15:29, RA Brown wrote:
John/Andy:
The styles in question are under 'Paragraph Styles', not 'List Styles'.


The only thing I see is List Indent under "Paragraph Styles"


They are not list styles, but they are in the List Styles 
sub-category of paragraph styles.  In the Styles and Formatting 
window, click the Paragraph Styles button.  Then go to the drop-down 
list at the bottom of the Styles and Formatting window; you will need 
to set this to either List Styles or All Styles in order to see the 
styles being discussed (unless you have used them in the current 
document, in which case they will also appear under Applied Styles, of course).


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] toggle functions

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

Good morning
I am sure, I will make myself with this question - which I actually
posted already 2-3 times in the past - the most unpopular person on the
list.

Toggle functions/features.
Hit F5 -> get the navigator; hit F5 again -> the navigator disappears.
Ctrl+shift+p -> superscript; Ctrl+shift+p -> superscript back to normal.

The first example is a function, the second a font attribute. THIS
apparently works.
I have tried in the past to assign a key combination to "highlight" text
and then remove the highlight.
Upon asking, I was told, the ONLY way to achieve this is by creating
**TWO DIFFERENT** macros.
THAT is what I did and currently use.

But isn't this rather stupid (mysterious):
I CAN toggle the font attribute "superscript" with the SAME key ON/OFF
But I can NOT toggle the font attribute "highlight" ON/OFF.
(I have been working on this for a very long time already ...)

WHY???

Never in the past when I posted this question has anyone attempted (not
to mention succeeded) to answer this question.
And, as a matter of course, this feature is available in almost ALL
other software that I use/know.


Anything that makes sense would be highly appreciated. Even this were
not possible technically (rather difficult to believe!), I would like to
know the REASON instead of quietely dealing with this schizophrenic
behavior.

Thank you.



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[users] Last cursor position

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

Good morning
(OO 3.2)
This relates to the other question I posted a few minutes ago, but
considered it advisable to open a new thread.

I frequently have to open, close and reopen documents, usually 20-30
pages long.
EVERY time I reopen a document, the cursor starts at the top of the
document.
This is maybe normal, but not where I was working when I closed the
document.

I have been told before, that I could set bookmarks and jump to that
position.
I know I can do that, but that is not really helpful. The last cursor
position is different every time I save the document and even if I set a
bookmark -> close the document -> reopen it:
the cursor still will be at the top of the document and I have to
perform several key or mouse actions to manually jump to the last
WORKING position. (in this also a number of unnecessary bookmarks
accumulates)

In Wordperfect there is something called "quickmark" -> a bookmark set
automatically at the cursor postion when saving the file and to which
the cursor jumps automatically when the file is reopened.

Is there something as elegant as this, or do I have to put up with
manually scrolling/jumping through dozens of pages each time I open a file?

Thank you.

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[users] Restore last view

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

I am using OO 3.2.
Currently I am working for a week on a certain document (simultaneously
also using a number of other software), so that it more or less
frequently occurs, that I have to shut down OO (and/or the computer) to
open the document later again and continue work.

Question:
I have set the "View" option to web layout. Magnification to 150%.
(the ordinary "print layout" has a VERY jumpy = annoying behavior. =
does not scroll smoothly)

EVERY time I reopen the document, this is back to "normal" (100%) and I
have to reset it manually.
Is it not possible to make OO remember what was last set / used?

Thank you.


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[users] Re: Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[Larry Evans]

On 08/20/10 17:45, RA Brown wrote:

Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi Andy,

I can confirm those entries for List styles.

[snip]

Hi Sigrid,

That is strange as I have Go-oo version 3.1 running under Ubuntu here
and do not see them listed.


Andy, the About on the OOWriter I'm using shows:

  OpenOffice.org 3.2.0
  OOO320m12 (Build:9483)

I'll send you off list the .odt which shows these styles.

Thanks for looking into this.

-regards,
Larry


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[users] Re: Re: Please Refund or kindly reply

[Twayne]

In news:37e83451-9693-4d5e-9c1c-c3dfa503a...@halblog.com,
Hal Vaughan  typed:
> Forget it.
>
> For now he's not even getting email from this group and the
> one email I sent him obviously didn't get read, since he
> seems to expect ME to trace something for him -- and the
> text of my email made it clear we are volunteers, not
> employees.
>
> I'm waiting to see how he responds and if he's nice, I'll
> help him.  If he's a jerk, I'll insist he read my entire
> email before helping him.
>
>
>
> Hal
>
> On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Twayne wrote:
>
>> Earle,
>>
>> You likely may have been hoodwinked; go ahead and cancel
>> the credit card order ASAP. You purchased the software
>> from a place other than the entity that produces and makes
>> it avaiilable, OpenOffice.org. Do it quickly; once they
>> charge your credit card, it will take one more full
>> billing cycle before the refund can show up on your credit
>> card statement.
>>
>> At OpenOffice.org, the suite is avalable to download for
>> free. A CD can be purchased and mailed to you from
>> openoffice, but there is no KEY assocated with it.
>> You download it, install it, use it - anywhere you want on
>> as many machines as you want. Or you purchase the CD for a
>> nomnal fee to cover the cost of the CD and shipping, and
>> then you install it and use it as above. Your menton of
>> the "key" indicates you bought it elsewhere. There is no
>> "key" needed. You don't even need to register your
>> software although they like it if you do so they can tell
>>   how many people are using it and approximately where.
>> You can even join the product to help further its goals if
>> you wish. Go to www.openoffice.org for full details. But
>> kill that credit card purchase quickly and get it from
>> openoffice.org; then you know you'll have safe, reliable,
>> no-ads, clean software.
>>
>> I will not mess with challenge-response systems, so I hope
>> you spot this in your waitlist in time to save some money
>> from the bottom feeder (IMO) that sold it to you.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`
>>
>>
>> n news:92276.32210...@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com,
>> d...@mweb.com.na  typed:
>>> Dear ?
>>>
>>> I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open
>>> office suite by Visa credit card.  It card was billed  and
>>> I was directed to go to my yahoo mail box where a key
>>> would be sent.  Up until now there is no such key or any
>>> communication from open source.  I believe I was scammed.
>>>
>>> The Name on the purchase order is  earle taylor
>>> The email address indicated on the form is
>>> etglo...@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get
>>> access to the program. Failing which I will have to cancel
>>> the credit card transaction by tomorrow
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
>>> Earle Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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He's reading them. You have to include his address that's all. He didn't say 
so in hs response to me, but apparently he's checking his "waitlst". See the 
post he replied to just after your post. He replied to that emal.  I suspect 
too many responses, of the ones that do think to copy hiim, are being too 
condescending to keep his attention. Plus most are not replying to him, 
which has to be done in this case; they're rather talking around him and 
complaining rather than trying to fiigure out what to do.

HTH,

Twayne`




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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[RA Brown]

Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi Andy,

I can confirm those entries for List styles.

I see:
- List
- List 1
- List 1 Cont
- List 1 End
- List 1 Start
- List Contents
- List Heading
- List Indent

I have to say, that right now I'm running the version of OOo that was
shipped with Mandriva, so this means, that I have the go-ooo version
of OpenOffice.org. It might be, that the vanilla version doesn't have
those entries.

But to come back to Larrys question: I don't know, what those styles do either.

Sigrid



Hi Sigrid,

That is strange as I have Go-oo version 3.1 running under Ubuntu here 
and do not see them listed.


When you have time could you send me a doc with those styles, off list 
would be best, so that I  look at them.


Andy

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[Sigrid Carrera]

Hi Andy,

I can confirm those entries for List styles.

I see:
- List
- List 1
- List 1 Cont
- List 1 End
- List 1 Start
- List Contents
- List Heading
- List Indent

I have to say, that right now I'm running the version of OOo that was
shipped with Mandriva, so this means, that I have the go-ooo version
of OpenOffice.org. It might be, that the vanilla version doesn't have
those entries.

But to come back to Larrys question: I don't know, what those styles do either.

Sigrid

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[RA Brown]

TomW wrote:

On 2010-08-20 15:29, RA Brown wrote:

John/Andy:

The styles in question are under 'Paragraph Styles', not 'List Styles'.

TomW



Tom,

The only thing I see is List Indent under "Paragraph Styles"

Andy

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[TomW]

On 2010-08-20 15:29, RA Brown wrote:

John Kaufmann wrote:

In a message dated 2010.08.20 14:01 -0500, RA Brown wrote:


Where did you find these styles? They are not in the default v3.2.1
install I have on XP or 3.1 install I have on Ubuntu. ...


That's surprising, Andy.  Styles "List 1".."List 5" and "Numbering 
1".."Numbering 5" have been in every version of OO Writer that I have 
seen.  Unfortunately (as noted previously in this list) they are not 
well motivated, and can be a particular distraction for new users.


John


Hi John,

The items you listed are in the default styles.  But Larry ask about a 
different set that included List 1 Start and that is what I am trying 
to find.  I am working on something for the defaults as well.


Andy



John/Andy:

The styles in question are under 'Paragraph Styles', not 'List Styles'.

TomW

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[RA Brown]

John Kaufmann wrote:

In a message dated 2010.08.20 14:01 -0500, RA Brown wrote:


Where did you find these styles? They are not in the default v3.2.1
install I have on XP or 3.1 install I have on Ubuntu. ...


That's surprising, Andy.  Styles "List 1".."List 5" and "Numbering 
1".."Numbering 5" have been in every version of OO Writer that I have 
seen.  Unfortunately (as noted previously in this list) they are not 
well motivated, and can be a particular distraction for new users.


John


Hi John,

The items you listed are in the default styles.  But Larry ask about a 
different set that included List 1 Start and that is what I am trying to 
find.  I am working on something for the defaults as well.


Andy

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[John Kaufmann]

In a message dated 2010.08.20 14:01 -0500, RA Brown wrote:


Where did you find these styles? They are not in the default v3.2.1
install I have on XP or 3.1 install I have on Ubuntu. ...


That's surprising, Andy.  Styles "List 1".."List 5" and "Numbering 
1".."Numbering 5" have been in every version of OO Writer that I have 
seen.  Unfortunately (as noted previously in this list) they are not 
well motivated, and can be a particular distraction for new users.


John

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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[RA Brown]

Larry Evans wrote:

I see these styles listed in the 'Styles and Formatting' window when
I select, from the main menu, 'Format>Styles and Formatting'; however,
when I try to find what the styles are in Help by entering, for example
'List 1 Start', all I get is either a hit on 'list' or a hit on 'start'
or a hit on '1'.  That's not much help.

How can I find out what these styles do?  I've been resorting to trial 
an error; however, so far I've not had much success.  I did have some 
success with figuring out 'List 1 Start, List 1 Cont, List 1 End'.  My 
conclusion was that this created ordered lists and the 'List 1 Cont' 
didn't start a new item but continued, with another paragraph, the 
previous item.  However, trial and error is a time consuming and very 
error prone method for figuring out what a style means.


TiA.

-Larry


Larry,

Where did you find these styles?  They are not in the default v3.2.1 
install I have on XP or 3.1 install I have on Ubuntu.  If you can send 
me a copy of a document with these styles.


Thanks
Andy


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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[JOE Conner]

 On 8/20/2010 4:21 AM, jonathon wrote:

JOE Conner wrote:


he is asking for a comprehensive description of each style,
I too would like to see such a comprehensive document with each style 
detailed.


For the number of people that claim to want that documentation, the 
amount of feedback from that documentation was astounding, by its 
utter absence.


jonathon

Perhaps.  I have asked for this years ago.   No one was interested then 
either.  I see this absence of documentation as a serious flaw to 
learning and using styles.  When I modify a style to personalize it then 
it is a bit like working blind.


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [users] Re: Please Refund or kindly reply

[Hal Vaughan]

Forget it.

For now he's not even getting email from this group and the one email I sent 
him obviously didn't get read, since he seems to expect ME to trace something 
for him -- and the text of my email made it clear we are volunteers, not 
employees.

I'm waiting to see how he responds and if he's nice, I'll help him.  If he's a 
jerk, I'll insist he read my entire email before helping him.



Hal

On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Twayne wrote:

> Earle,
> 
> You likely may have been hoodwinked; go ahead and cancel the credit card 
> order ASAP. You purchased the software from a place other than the entity 
> that produces and makes it avaiilable, OpenOffice.org. Do it quickly; once 
> they charge your credit card, it will take one more full billing cycle 
> before the refund can show up on your credit card statement.
> 
> At OpenOffice.org, the suite is avalable to download for free. A CD can be 
> purchased and mailed to you from openoffice, but there is no KEY assocated 
> with it.
> You download it, install it, use it - anywhere you want on as many machines 
> as you want. Or you purchase the CD for a nomnal fee to cover the cost of 
> the CD and shipping, and then you install it and use it as above. Your 
> menton of the "key" indicates you bought it elsewhere. There is no "key" 
> needed. You don't even need to register your software although they like it 
> if you do so they can tell how many people are using it and approximately 
> where. You can even join the product to help further its goals if you wish.
>   Go to www.openoffice.org for full details. But kill that credit card 
> purchase quickly and get it from openoffice.org; then you know you'll have 
> safe, reliable, no-ads, clean software.
> 
> I will not mess with challenge-response systems, so I hope you spot this in 
> your waitlist in time to save some money from the bottom feeder (IMO) that 
> sold it to you.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Twayne`
> 
> 
> n news:92276.32210...@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com,
> d...@mweb.com.na  typed:
>> Dear ?
>> 
>> I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open
>> office suite by Visa credit card.  It card was billed  and
>> I was directed to go to my yahoo mail box where a key would
>> be sent.  Up until now there is no such key or any
>> communication from open source.  I believe I was scammed.
>> 
>> The Name on the purchase order is  earle taylor
>> The email address indicated on the form is
>> etglo...@yahoo.com
>> 
>> Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get
>> access to the program. Failing which I will have to cancel
>> the credit card transaction by tomorrow
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Earle Taylor
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[users] WAITLISTED? Re: Re: Re: Please Refund or kindly reply (Action Required)

[Twayne]

In news:4c6e738c.6000...@rogers.com,
James Knott  typed:
>> You try to help someone and this is what you get.  I guess
>> he won't be getting much help.
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: Re: [users] Please Refund or kindly reply
>> (Action Required) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:44:20 -0700
>> (PDT)
>> From: etglo...@yahoo.com
>> To: James Knott 
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello James Knott,
>>
>> Your message about "Re: [users] Please Refund or kindly
>> reply" was waitlisted.
>>
>> Please add yourself to my Guest List so your messages will
>> be delivered to my Inbox. Use the link below.
>>
...



Yeah, agreed JK!
 I thought this sort of silliness had died out. Too bad too, because the 
user is probably simply inexperienced in what he's done, namely chasing 
almost everyone away, including good-mail type posts, in addition to 
bad-mail posts. That is, assuming it's not a spammer wanna-be looking for 
verified email addresses to sell. Yahoo should know better too, and warned 
the users.  He must have a way to look at his "waitlist" and see what's 
there if he really wants to. No way I want to be listed in other people's 
address books if I can help it!

Regards,

Twayne`




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[users] Re: Open Office -information request

[Twayne]

In news:aanlktikrjxpx-+-szhj5mnc1grtgyd2hphv97nlhm...@mail.gmail.com,
Claire Gilbertson  typed:
> Hi,
>
> I am a master student working with Carlos Jensen in the HCI
> group at Oregon State University, in conjunction with the
> OSL on a study of contribution and joining patterns in
> FOSS. I am working with Jenifer Davids and Nitin Mohan, who
> you may have talked with in the past. Thank you for all the
> help you and your community have provided us in our
> research. Is there a single person or mailing list who I
> can direct a specific information gathering request to?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Claire

No, there really isn't. This newsgroup is the main focus for assistance. 




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[users] Re: Please Refund or kindly reply

[Twayne]

Earle,

You likely may have been hoodwinked; go ahead and cancel the credit card 
order ASAP. You purchased the software from a place other than the entity 
that produces and makes it avaiilable, OpenOffice.org. Do it quickly; once 
they charge your credit card, it will take one more full billing cycle 
before the refund can show up on your credit card statement.

At OpenOffice.org, the suite is avalable to download for free. A CD can be 
purchased and mailed to you from openoffice, but there is no KEY assocated 
with it.
You download it, install it, use it - anywhere you want on as many machines 
as you want. Or you purchase the CD for a nomnal fee to cover the cost of 
the CD and shipping, and then you install it and use it as above. Your 
menton of the "key" indicates you bought it elsewhere. There is no "key" 
needed. You don't even need to register your software although they like it 
if you do so they can tell how many people are using it and approximately 
where. You can even join the product to help further its goals if you wish.
   Go to www.openoffice.org for full details. But kill that credit card 
purchase quickly and get it from openoffice.org; then you know you'll have 
safe, reliable, no-ads, clean software.

I will not mess with challenge-response systems, so I hope you spot this in 
your waitlist in time to save some money from the bottom feeder (IMO) that 
sold it to you.

HTH,

Twayne`


n news:92276.32210...@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com,
d...@mweb.com.na  typed:
> Dear ?
>
> I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open
> office suite by Visa credit card.  It card was billed  and
> I was directed to go to my yahoo mail box where a key would
> be sent.  Up until now there is no such key or any
> communication from open source.  I believe I was scammed.
>
> The Name on the purchase order is  earle taylor
> The email address indicated on the form is
> etglo...@yahoo.com
>
> Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get
> access to the program. Failing which I will have to cancel
> the credit card transaction by tomorrow
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Earle Taylor





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Re: [users] Please Refund or kindly reply

[Hal Vaughan]

I sent a copy of this email (copied completely, below) to him directly and here 
is his response.  I don't think he's reading any of this and my patience with 
him will not be long if he doesn't start reading the replies in the group here.



Hal


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On Aug 20, 2010, at 7:20 AM, d...@mweb.com.na wrote:

> Dear Hal
>  
> Thanks for replying.  I am trying to locate the correspondence and will send 
> to you so that you can trace it.  In the meaqn time I also purchased the 
> Pdf995 upgrade version and still no key as well.
>  
> Earle
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On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:

> Earle,
> 
> I know this may seem confusing, but there are three different "entities" you 
> are dealing with.  First, Oracle publishes OpenOffice (it used to be Sun 
> Microsystems, but they were bought by Oracle).  They make it available for 
> free.  I have used OpenOffice on Windows, my iMac, and even Linux.  I've been 
> using it since version 1.0 (and, actually, before) and have downloaded it 
> many times and never been asked to pay so much as one penny for it.  Sun, and 
> now Oracle, have made it and kept it free.  You can download it for free at 
> http://www.openoffice.org/.
> 
> Second is the company you bought OpenOffice from.  I don't know who that is, 
> since you don't provide any information in your email.  Perhaps they've 
> intentionally picked a name so similar to OpenOffice that they confused you.  
> They may have done this on purpose, in an effort to deceive you so you would 
> pay them for a program you can get for free.  Or it may be a good company and 
> they not only give you a copy of OpenOffice, but also technical support and 
> help.  If all they offered you was a copy of OpenOffice, then I would suggest 
> finding what legal means you can to dispute the charge or cancel the 
> purchase, since they are charging you for a program you can get for free.
> 
> Also, you talk about them sending you a key.  I have had many times where a 
> download key or a status report from NewEgg or some other web site ended up 
> in my SPAM folder.  There is a very good chance that's where your key is: In 
> your SPAM folder.  This happens a lot because many people trying to fool you 
> send out emails saying things like, "Here is the key for your free software!" 
> so spam filters look for things like that.  So before saying you haven't 
> gotten a key in email (or anything else) ALWAYS check your SPAM folder.  I've 
> been using email since the early 1980s and laugh when people say, "But that 
> can't be.  I wouldn't call it spam!"  You would not, but the program that 
> filters spam is just a program and it can't think like you do.  So check your 
> spam folder.
> 
> And, lastly, there's the third group: This mailing list.  I don't know how 
> you found us.  Perhaps the company told you that if you paid for OpenOffice, 
> they would provide free support through this list.  If so, then they lied.  
> They are not providing support.  We are.  And I'll tell you who we are: We 
> are almost all volunteers, people who use OpenOffice and either have 
> questions of our own or help others with questions.  We are not part of any 
> company, we're just people who are trying to help.  There are some employees 
> of Oracle here to help out, but they are usually programmers or other people 
> who work on creating OpenOffice.  They are not people who handle financial 
> transactions.
> 
> We'll be glad to help you, but it's important to know that if you were told 
> the company that sold you OpenOffice was helping, they are not and that is 
> fraud and that, alone, should be grounds to dispute their charge.
> 
> I hope this, and the other replies here, help you.
> 
> 
> 
> Hal Vaughan
> 
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:11 PM, d...@mweb.com.na wrote:
> 
>> Dear ?
>> 
>> I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open office suite by 
>> Visa 
>> credit card.  It card was billed  and I was directed to go to my yahoo mail 
>> box 
>> where a key would be sent.  Up until now there is no such key or any 
>> communication from open source.  I believe I was scammed.
>> 
>> The Name on the purchase order is  earle taylor
>> The email address indicated on the form is etglo...@yahoo.com
>> 
>> Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get access to the program. 
>>  
>> Failing which I will have to cancel the credit card transaction by tomorrow
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Earle Taylor
> 
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[James Knott]

You try to help someone and this is what you get.  I guess he won't be 
getting much help.



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Re: [users] Please Refund or kindly reply

[James Knott]

Brian Barker wrote:

At 17:11 18/08/2010 -0700, Earle Taylor wrote:
I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open office suite 
by Visa credit card.  It card was billed and I was directed to go to 
my yahoo mail box where a key would be sent.  Up until now there is 
no such key or any communication from open source.  I believe I was 
scammed.


Readers may like to know that Mr Taylor has a challenge-response spam 
filtering system in effect.  Do we imagine that his purchased key is 
suspended, waiting - in vain - for the machine which sent it to 
respond to the challenge?


That wouldn't surprise me.  I have no use for those who require senders 
to register with a white list.  I suspect he's missing a lot of 
legitimate mail because of this.





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Re: [users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

[jonathon]

JOE Conner wrote:


he is asking for a comprehensive description of each style,
I too would like to see such a comprehensive document with each style detailed.


For the number of people that claim to want that documentation, the 
amount of feedback from that documentation was astounding, by its utter 
absence.


jonathon

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