[users] Re: PDF Conversion

2010-12-19 Thread R N D Martin
In article aanlktinssvik7erg7kfkd1xkmbybsbfixtan7r7pv...@mail.gmail.com,
hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com (Harold Fuchs) wrote:

 *From:* Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:49:18 +
 
 On 16 December 2010 10:41, Marcello Romani 
 mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote:
 
  Il 16/12/2010 11:08, Harold Fuchs ha scritto:
 
   On 16 December 2010 07:15, Marcello 
  Romanimrom...@ottotecnica.com
   wrote:
 
 
  snip
 
 
 
 
 
   PDF is not meant for editing. Period.
 
 
 
   snip
 
  So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which 
 I made
  using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it 
 to my
  colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about 
 that ...
 
 
  No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that 
  one can
  edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature.
 
 
 
 Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* 
 to be
 edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that 
 was
 necessary.
 
 -- 
 Harold Fuchs
 London, England
 Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
 
The purpose of producing a pdf is twofold:  to generate a platform independent
document; and to produce one that can be circulated but one that is not subject 
to
editing by other hands, so that the receiver  gets a document that can be 
relied on
to be in the form that the originator intended.

Niall Martin


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[users] Re[3]: Re[2]: PDF Conversion

2010-12-15 Thread R N D Martin
I use the Foxit Reader's facility to Save As text versions of documents.  I have
the paid for version  (worth having anyway), and don't know whether the free
version does this.  it will probably not work with documents that originated as
photocopies:  for that you may need an OCR programme.

best wishes


In article 334552512.20101210144...@gmail.com, douglas.hi...@gmail.com 
(Douglas
Hinds) wrote:

 *From:* Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com
 *To:* Daniel Lewis users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:47:08 -0600
 
  It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results 
  were not
  adequate.
 
 OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and
 each and every line is included in it's own text box so the
 documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing.  The
 letterhead didn't appear, either.  And we are describing a pdf
 document created in writer and exported to pdf from there.
 
  What type of editing do you want to do?
 
 I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable
 form.
 
  Where does OOo fail to do what you want?
 
 It doesn't do the above.  OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means
 it's a graphics rather than a document file.
 
 Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is
 the reason for my post today to users at oo.org.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Douglas Hinds
 


Niall Martin


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[users] RE: Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???

2010-04-12 Thread R N D Martin
In article 
d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda96d93...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local,
kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com (McLauchlan, Kevin) wrote:

 *From:* McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com
 *To:* users@openoffice.org users@openoffice.org, 
 rndmar...@cix.co.uk rndmar...@cix.co.uk
 *Date:* Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:30:04 -0400
 
 R N D Martin [mailto:rndmar...@cix.co.uk] suggested:
 
  In article hp31iv$cj...@dough.gmane.org, b...@oblong.com.au 
  (Bob Long) wrote:
  
   *From:* Bob Long b...@oblong.com.au
   *To:* users@openoffice.org
   *Date:* Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:01:17 +1000
   
   Dave Stevens wrote,
   
I have to convert a .pdf for which I no longer have access to 
  the   original
.odt format. I've installed the sun-pdfimport extension and 
  can   open the file in
  
  Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a 
  save as facility
  which can be used to  extract a text  file from most pdfs.  
  The resulting text file
  can of course be pasted into OO writer and then word processed. 
 
 With the Foxit Reader installer, I encountered the same problem 
 that I did with OpenOffice.org 3.2 installer - it insisted that 
 I lacked sufficient rights on my own system (I have admin rights). 
 
 The difference is that the OOo installer eventually relented and 
 I got 3.2 installed despite the protests - and without any change 
 to my system (Windows XP Pro x64).  The Foxit installer just 
 keeps crapping out after the splash-screen and the warning. 
 
 Too bad. I was prepared to try it and upgrade to the pay-for 
 version. 
 
 Maybe I'll see if I can get it to install on my laptop at home, 
 with Windoze 7 Ultimate.
 
  - Kevin

Having admin rights, given the complexity of windoze, isn't the full story.  You
need to do fancy things sometimes like establishing ownership.  Sometimes I
discover that files I thought I could do what I liked with had somehow been made
read only.  It's never ending.

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???

2010-04-07 Thread R N D Martin
In article hp31iv$cj...@dough.gmane.org, b...@oblong.com.au (Bob Long) wrote:

 *From:* Bob Long b...@oblong.com.au
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:01:17 +1000
 
 Dave Stevens wrote,
 
  I have to convert a .pdf for which I no longer have access to the 
  original
  .odt format. I've installed the sun-pdfimport extension and can 
  open the file in

Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a save as facility
which can be used to  extract a text  file from most pdfs.  The resulting text 
file
can of course be pasted into OO writer and then word processed. 


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[users] Available language modules grayed out

2009-10-27 Thread R N D Martin
I had been noticing that the spell checker wasn't working on my Windows XP 
system
(writer), and on investigating I found that when I went to language
settings/writing aids the window for available language modules was grayed out. 
 My
version of Open Office is 3.01.

Any clues?

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-18 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin) wrote:

 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin)
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:11 +0100 (BST)
 
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin) wrote:
 
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin)
  *To:* users@openoffice.org
  *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:02 +0100 (BST)
  
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  (Ahromi
  Irawan) wrote:
  
   *From:* Ahromi Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *To:* users@openoffice.org
   *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:00:11 +0700
   
   Pada Tanggal 04/14/2008 09:26 PM, R N D Martin Menulis:
In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and 
paste  to
batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I 
  seem   to have
to paste special into the document as text, and then turn 
  what  I  have
pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and 
   awkward.   Have I
missed something?
   
Niall Martin
  
   Edit | Paste Special | Formatted Text
   
   HTH
   
   -- 
   Ahromi Irawan
   Cirebon
   
  Thanks.  I'll try that again, but my  memory is that it pasted an 
  image
  of the bit of the spreadsheet  rather than distributing the items 
  over
  the fields.
  
  Niall Martin
  
 I repeated the operation, and found it pasted everything in column 
 1 of
 the table I created, definitely not what I wanted.
 
 Niall Martin
 
I've had some off list correspondence with Barbara Duprey  which I'm
pasting below, as it seems to  add something to the discussion.  her
second last sentence seems to enlighten. 

Niall Martin

Thanks, Niall. Yes, it does, and I think we may be getting closer here. 
If you click *below* the table you're working with (I generally add an 
empty paragraph before my paste point), rather than inside the table, 
then do the Paste Special for formatted text, you should get an 
independent table that looks pretty much like what you had in Calc. If 
you want to append the data from that copy to your existing, nicely 
formatted table, just add an empty row at the bottom of the formatted 
one. Then click somewhere in the copied table, Table  Select  Table, 
and Ctrl-C. Now you have all your spreadsheet data in a good form for 
normal pasting. Click in the first cell (or whichever one is to be the 
top left of the appended data) of the empty new row of the formatted 
table, then Ctrl-V. Your data should populate the formatted table in the 
appropriate columns, adding all the rows it needs. Now you can delete 
the copied temporary table.

That should do it, I hope, though you may have to do a little more to 
get the copied data to match the existing table's format. I do a very 
similar thing getting data from Base tables and queries into Writer 
tables. Unfortunately, the clipboard formats for Writer, Calc, and Base 
seem to be incompatible without the intermediate step.

(By the way, let's keep all this on the list so others can help, too.)

Niall Martin wrote:
 Thanks for your message..  Initially I created my table, then did 
 paste special on to it.  No go.  I then explored the  other options.  
 DDE seemed to give  the wrong answer.  Paste special taking the 
 formatted text option put everything in a single column of the table, 
 instead of distributing the items in the appropriate columns. What 
 succeeded was paste  special, taking the unformatted text option, 
 highlighting the pasted text, followed by table/convert to table.  It 
 does seem a roundabout way of doing things, particularly if having set 
 up the table you then want to add more data to it.  I hope this 
 clarifies the process.



 On 16 Apr 2008 at 14:20, Barbara Duprey wrote:

 Date sent:  Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0500
 From:Barbara Duprey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@openoffice.org, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Subject:   * *Re: [users]  Re: Spreadsheet to 
 word processor table*

 R N D Martin wrote:
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Barker) wrote:
 
   
  *From:* Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* users@openoffice.org
  *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:55:54 +0100
 
  At 15:26 14/04/2008 +0100, Niall Martin wrote:
 
  In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using copy and
   
  paste to batch paste direct to the cells in the table, but in OO I
  seem to have to paste special into the document as text, and then
  turn what I have pasted into a table.  I find this rather long
  winded and awkward. Have I missed something?
 
  Possibly.  I think that, in Writer, this is even easier than you
  hope.  Don't create any table first.  Instead, copy the cells from
  your spreadsheet and then use Edit | Paste Special... (or
  Ctrl+Shift+V), selecting DDE link from the options.  This creates
  a table with your imported values, which you can then format as you
  require.
 
  Note

[users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Barker) wrote:

 *From:* Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:55:54 +0100
 
 At 15:26 14/04/2008 +0100, Niall Martin wrote:
 In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using copy and 
 paste to batch paste direct to the cells in the table, but in OO I 
 seem to have to paste special into the document as text, and then 
 turn what I have pasted into a table.  I find this rather long 
 winded and awkward. Have I missed something?
 
 Possibly.  I think that, in Writer, this is even easier than you 
 hope.  Don't create any table first.  Instead, copy the cells from 
 your spreadsheet and then use Edit | Paste Special... (or 
 Ctrl+Shift+V), selecting DDE link from the options.  This creates 
 a table with your imported values, which you can then format as you 
 require.
 
 Note that this technique actually creates a link to the source 
 spreadsheet instead of a copy - so the spreadsheet file must 
 continue to be available and any subsequent change to it will be 
 reflected in your Writer document.  If this is not what you need, 
 after you have pasted the link, go to Edit | Links..., select the 
 relevant link in the list, and press Break Link.  You will now have 
 an independent text document.
 
 I trust this helps.
 
 Brian Barker
 
I did experiment briefly with the DDE option, but abandoned it at once,
since it did not seem to be doing  what I wanted.  Your second paragraph
I regard as  a workaround which I will  try some time, but still regard
as rather clumsy.  Thanks for your  comment. 

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin) wrote:

 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin)
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:02 +0100 (BST)
 
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (Ahromi
 Irawan) wrote:
 
  *From:* Ahromi Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* users@openoffice.org
  *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:00:11 +0700
  
  Pada Tanggal 04/14/2008 09:26 PM, R N D Martin Menulis:
   In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and 
   paste  to
   batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I seem 
   to have
   to paste special into the document as text, and then turn what 
  I  have
   pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and 
  awkward.   Have I
   missed something?
  
   Niall Martin
 
  Edit | Paste Special | Formatted Text
  
  HTH
  
  -- 
  Ahromi Irawan
  Cirebon
  
 Thanks.  I'll try that again, but my  memory is that it pasted an 
 image
 of the bit of the spreadsheet  rather than distributing the items 
 over
 the fields.
 
 Niall Martin
 
I repeated the operation, and found it pasted everything in column 1 of
the table I created, definitely not what I wanted.

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-15 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ahromi
Irawan) wrote:

 *From:* Ahromi Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:00:11 +0700
 
 Pada Tanggal 04/14/2008 09:26 PM, R N D Martin Menulis:
  In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and 
  paste  to
  batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I seem 
  to have
  to paste special into the document as text, and then turn what I 
  have
  pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and awkward. 
   Have I
  missed something?
 
  Niall Martin

 Edit | Paste Special | Formatted Text
 
 HTH
 
 -- 
 Ahromi Irawan
 Cirebon
 
Thanks.  I'll try that again, but my  memory is that it pasted an image
of the bit of the spreadsheet  rather than distributing the items over
the fields.

Niall Martin


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[users] Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-14 Thread R N D Martin
In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and paste  to
batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I seem to have
to paste special into the document as text, and then turn what I have
pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and awkward.  Have I
missed something?

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: Lotus-Smartsuite-Files

2006-04-04 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Ennio-Sr) wrote:

 *From:* Ennio-Sr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Date:* Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:23:31 +0200
 
 * Peter Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020406, 18:10]:
  Hello,
  
  I'm using Open Office Org 2.0 with Windows and Linux. Before I used 
  Lotus Smartsuite with Windows. Can you tell me if there exists any 
  import filters for importing Lotus-1-2-3, Lotus-Freelance and 
  Lotus-Wordpro files into Open Office Org. If there exists any would 
  you please tell me where I can find them.
  
 
 Hi Peter!
 Concerning Lotus .123 files, I imported them in OOo-1.1.4 following
 these steps:
 1. Savev .123 files as .xls (Excel) files (using Lotus SSuite) 
 2. OOo-1.1.4 could open the so transformed .xls files, except that I 
 had
to re-write all the relative macros and make some minor adaptations
to particular formulas (Help was very 'helpful' ;-) )
 
 I've just tried OOo-2.0, which supposedly should import .123 files
 directly, but had no success: many of my formulas would raise the
 _#VALUE_ error and the resulting files are worthless. What is worse,
 OOo-2.0 gives the same error when I try to import the former .123 
 files
 previously successfully transformed in OOo-1.1.4 Calc (.sxc) files.
   
 HTH, regards,
   Ennio.
   
 --
 [Perche' usare Win$ozz (dico io) se ...anche uno sciocco sa farlo.   
 \\?//
  Fa' qualche cosa di cui non sei capace!  (diceva Henry Miller) ]
 (°|°)
 [Why use Win$ozz (I say) if ... even a fool can do that. 
  )=(
  Do something you aren't good at! (as Henry Miller used to say) ]
 
OO.o will import lotus 123 files directly without that workaround, but 
sadly will not  do the same  for wordpro.

Niall Martin

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[users] Re: installing OpenOffice on another drive?

2006-03-13 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (heidi stewart) wrote:

 *From:* heidi stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Date:* Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:37:17 -0500 (EST)
 
 Can we install OpenOffice onto a drive other than C?
   
   thanks from a great fan!
   heidi
   
   
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As the resident experts say it is perfectly possible.  I do it on my 
system because I like  to keep program separate from the OS, and the  
data separate from both:  it helps backup and recovery from disasters.  
I use a system of multiple partitions on two physical disks which has 
worked quite well for  some  time. 


Niall Martin

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[users] Re: Word Pro

2006-03-01 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:

 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Date:* Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:24:10 -0800
 
 Thanks for your help.  I decided my best bet would be to
 go a head and upgrade to Lotus Smart Suite.
 
 Thanks,
 Beth Miller
I have used this for some  years.  It is a powerful suite, whose 
functions I have only learned the half of.   Problem:  IBM's maintenance 
work on it is only partial, and IBM makes it difficult to keep one's 
installation up to  date.  I've tended to  drift away because I wanted 
to help my wife on her  new computer and was reluctant to buy a new copy 
of Smartsuite:  OOo came in handy.  I need to use it myself if I am to 
be of  any help. 

Niall Martin

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