Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-14 Thread jonathon
On 11/12/2010 01:37 PM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

>  Why Go-OO does not think it is needed and Oracle's OOo does.

Go-OO assumes that the only people that will use it run OOo headless.
For that purpose, a menu is irrelevant.

> is there a listing of the differenced between the various branches of OOo.

Between http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openoffice.org and
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org you'll have what the most
comprehensive listing of the differences between the various versions,
that is publicly available.

Until LibreOffice arrived on the scene, very little attention was paid
to the various versions.



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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-12 Thread webmas...@krackedpress.com
On 11/12/10 13:27, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2010-11-12 8:37 AM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
>> I typed in Printer Administration in the help option of OOo 64-bit
>> Debain 3.2.1.  I got nothing.
>> For whatever reasons you got answers and I did not, it is not the issue
>> at this time.
> Debian is notorious for 'changing' things and 'splitting' programs up
> into multiple parts.
>
> I'll bet they separated the 'Help' out into a separate install...
Well I know that Debian/Ubuntu allowed me to uninstall Writer while allowing
me to still have Calc and Impress working.  It is not like that in
Windows.  I
actually did that one, thinking that if I uninstall one part the rest
will go as well.
Not in Ubuntu/Debian.

Looks like I will have to see what OOo's site has to offer in more
extensions.
I am using the Debian version from OOo's web site now, instead of Ubuntu's
Go-OO version it its repository.  OOo's version is where the Printer
Admin. came
from. 

As for the Help system, I thought I tried all the options. I have used
it before
I changed from Go-OO to OOo's version.

I wonder if I will confuse the mix if I tried Lotus Symphony 3.x along
side of
the current OOo version.  IBM claims that they too OOo's code and made
it better.
The Claim it is a more effective challenger to MSO than OOo is.  See the
article
in the link.
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Lotus-Symphony-30-Vies-to-Eclipse-OpenOfficeorg-as-Microsoft-Office-Challenger-788085/?kc=EWKNLLIN11092010STR1

Hopefully I do not mess the system up any more that it is already.




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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-11-12 8:37 AM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
> I typed in Printer Administration in the help option of OOo 64-bit
> Debain 3.2.1.  I got nothing.
> For whatever reasons you got answers and I did not, it is not the issue
> at this time.

Debian is notorious for 'changing' things and 'splitting' programs up
into multiple parts.

I'll bet they separated the 'Help' out into a separate install...

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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-12 Thread Daniel Lewis

webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

On 11/12/10 04:23, Clayton wrote:
   

On 11/08/10 23:44, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 

When I moved from Ubuntu's Go-oo version to Oracle's version on the
OOo web site, I noticed that there is a new listing on the
"Gnome Panel>  Applications>  Office"
called
"OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration".

What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not
have any listing for it.  I checked the Document Project linked from the
OOo site and I did not find a reference for it either, or at least my
searches did not find any.
   

What did you search on?  When I open the help and search (using the
Find tab in the application help) on "printer administration" I get a
result, a help page titled: "Setting up Printer, Fax and Fonts Under
UNIX Based Platforms"  This page describes spadmin.  Do you see this
page when you search the application help?

 

I typed in Printer Administration in the help option of OOo 64-bit
Debain 3.2.1.  I got nothing.
For whatever reasons you got answers and I did not, it is not the issue
at this time.
   
In the help option, there are four tabs: Contents, Index, Find, 
Bookmarks. You must click the Find tab before entering Print 
Administration in the Search term. Click the Find button and then click 
the Display button at the bottom. The page mentioned will appear. It 
does in mine, and I use the same OOo version you do (Deb 64 bit)


Dan



Another posting tells me that there are many executable installed with
OOo, and some
are not included as menu items.  Then there is the wonder why P.A. is
placed in the
menu with one version and not the other.  Why Go-OO does not think it is
needed and
Oracle's OOo does.

I do wonder why OOo needs a "Setting up Printer, Fax and Fonts Under
UNIX Based Platforms".
Is this not a function of "System / Administration / Printing"?

   
 

The real thing is that the OOo web site 64-bit Debian 3.2.1 version has
it while the Go-oo version in Ubuntu's system does not.  Why is it there
for one and not there for the other?
   

Go-OO and OO.o are not identical.  There are many differences.


C.
 

As I wondered a few months back, is there a listing of the differenced
between the various branches of OOo.  When I asked about why I should
use Go-OO instead of OOo, from Go-OO's people, I got the answer that it
is better than OOo but no concrete info why.

Do any of you know of a web page that gives a side by side account on
what this other OOo based packages have that OOo does not?  It would
be something to see.

Also, there was an article a few days ago, will have to find it again, that
Lotus 123 is claiming that they are "out shining" OOo and will be the
version
to beat.  They want to be the one people turn to when they dump MSO.
They are also claiming to be better than OOo, but I do not remember reading
any differences there either.



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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-12 Thread webmas...@krackedpress.com
On 11/12/10 04:23, Clayton wrote:
> On 11/08/10 23:44, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
>> When I moved from Ubuntu's Go-oo version to Oracle's version on the
>> OOo web site, I noticed that there is a new listing on the
>> "Gnome Panel > Applications > Office"
>> called
>> "OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration".
>>
>> What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not
>> have any listing for it.  I checked the Document Project linked from the
>> OOo site and I did not find a reference for it either, or at least my
>> searches did not find any.
>
> What did you search on?  When I open the help and search (using the
> Find tab in the application help) on "printer administration" I get a
> result, a help page titled: "Setting up Printer, Fax and Fonts Under
> UNIX Based Platforms"  This page describes spadmin.  Do you see this
> page when you search the application help?
>

I typed in Printer Administration in the help option of OOo 64-bit
Debain 3.2.1.  I got nothing.
For whatever reasons you got answers and I did not, it is not the issue
at this time.

Another posting tells me that there are many executable installed with
OOo, and some
are not included as menu items.  Then there is the wonder why P.A. is
placed in the
menu with one version and not the other.  Why Go-OO does not think it is
needed and
Oracle's OOo does.

I do wonder why OOo needs a "Setting up Printer, Fax and Fonts Under
UNIX Based Platforms".
Is this not a function of "System / Administration / Printing"? 

>
>> The real thing is that the OOo web site 64-bit Debian 3.2.1 version has
>> it while the Go-oo version in Ubuntu's system does not.  Why is it there
>> for one and not there for the other?
>
> Go-OO and OO.o are not identical.  There are many differences.
>
>
> C.

As I wondered a few months back, is there a listing of the differenced
between the various branches of OOo.  When I asked about why I should
use Go-OO instead of OOo, from Go-OO's people, I got the answer that it
is better than OOo but no concrete info why.

Do any of you know of a web page that gives a side by side account on
what this other OOo based packages have that OOo does not?  It would
be something to see.

Also, there was an article a few days ago, will have to find it again, that
Lotus 123 is claiming that they are "out shining" OOo and will be the
version
to beat.  They want to be the one people turn to when they dump MSO.
They are also claiming to be better than OOo, but I do not remember reading
any differences there either.



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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-12 Thread Clayton

On 11/08/10 23:44, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

When I moved from Ubuntu's Go-oo version to Oracle's version on the
OOo web site, I noticed that there is a new listing on the
"Gnome Panel > Applications > Office"
called
"OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration".

What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not
have any listing for it.  I checked the Document Project linked from the
OOo site and I did not find a reference for it either, or at least my
searches did not find any.


What did you search on?  When I open the help and search (using the Find tab in 
the application help) on "printer administration" I get a result, a help page 
titled: "Setting up Printer, Fax and Fonts Under UNIX Based Platforms"  This 
page describes spadmin.  Do you see this page when you search the application help?




The real thing is that the OOo web site 64-bit Debian 3.2.1 version has
it while the Go-oo version in Ubuntu's system does not.  Why is it there
for one and not there for the other?


Go-OO and OO.o are not identical.  There are many differences.


C.
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OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead

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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-08 Thread webmas...@krackedpress.com
On 11/08/10 20:50, Eric Wood wrote:
> On 11/8/2010 5:44 PM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
>>   I noticed that there is a new listing on the
>> "Gnome Panel>  Applications>  Office"
>> called
>> "OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration".
>>
>> What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not
>
> I'm just guessing here but it may be a set of printer setups for use
> only with Ooo.   I'm starting to get into running Ooo headless to that
> I can do printing macros from the command line without the gui - known
> as headless mode.  Since there is a -p and -pt argument to soffice.bin
> program, this should be referencing the printer names setup.  So you
> can have one printer pulling from paper tray 1 and another printer
> name (actually same printer) pulling from tray 2 duplex without
> complicating your macros with printer options.
>
> -eric wood

I do the same printer, but different default options, for years with
Windows.  I have
two versions of my Color Laser for Ubuntu at this time.  It is a little
harder to do that
with Linux, for me at this time, but I had one B&W laser printer setup
as at least 4 or 5
different printers with options on print quality [draft, normal, high]
and manual-paper-feeding-only.
I no longer have that printer, so I do not remember.  Currently, my
Color Laser has
both Network Connect and Direct USB Connect version in my printer
selection.  When
printing very large file size pages [heavy graphics, etc.], it takes a
very long time for
the file to print via the fastest network connection it supports, but
less than a tenth of the
time via a USB direct connection.  I use network connection 99% of the
time and a 32 foot
long USB cable for the direct connection.  I must have a separate name
for each since you
cannot change the connection type in the menu options.

Are you saying that this Printer Admin. option would help with these
things?  The only
thing I see in the Printer Admin. feature seems to be that it shows the
fonts that may
be built into the hardware.  I never use those built in fonts, or not
since Windows 95
came out.

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I wish my printer did have the duplex option, maybe next time. 

Command line - never did that except once and it did not include any
options.




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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-08 Thread Eric Wood

On 11/8/2010 5:44 PM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

  I noticed that there is a new listing on the
"Gnome Panel>  Applications>  Office"
called
"OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration".

What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not


I'm just guessing here but it may be a set of printer setups for use 
only with Ooo.   I'm starting to get into running Ooo headless to that I 
can do printing macros from the command line without the gui - known as 
headless mode.  Since there is a -p and -pt argument to soffice.bin 
program, this should be referencing the printer names setup.  So you can 
have one printer pulling from paper tray 1 and another printer name 
(actually same printer) pulling from tray 2 duplex without complicating 
your macros with printer options.


-eric wood

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[users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-08 Thread webmas...@krackedpress.com

When I moved from Ubuntu's Go-oo version to Oracle's version on the
OOo web site, I noticed that there is a new listing on the
"Gnome Panel > Applications > Office"
called
"OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration".

What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not
have any listing for it.  I checked the Document Project linked from the
OOo site and I did not find a reference for it either, or at least my
searches
did not find any.

So what is this actually used for?  The only thing I see is a font option
that is not part of the normal properties of a printer properties.  The Font
substitution table in that option looks different than the one in the
"Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org > Fonts" replacement table. 

The real thing is that the OOo web site 64-bit Debian 3.2.1 version has
it while the Go-oo version in Ubuntu's system does not.  Why is it there
for one and not there for the other?

What is it really used for, or why is it needed for Oracle's version of OOo
on the OOo site?

As I said, this is the first time I have seen it, but cannot find any
reference to it in any documentation I have access to. 

Any Help?