Re: [users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-05 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:17 04/10/2010 -0400, Robert Peirce wrote:
I have 3.2.1 for Mac.  I can't find Object Properties in any of 
the dropdowns.


I know.  That's why I suggested that Format Selection... might be 
where the same dialogue was in your version.  It would make 
sense.  You don't say whether it is.


It turns out I can select a series, right-click on it and get to the 
properties from there.


I mentioned that, too.


Also, apparently, I cannot put the chart in a separate tab.


Do you mean on another sheet of the spreadsheet?  You can, of course: 
just cut and paste it there.


Brian Barker


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[users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-04 Thread Robert Peirce
In article 618661.49374...@smtp816.mail.ird.yahoo.com,
 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I have version 3.1.1. for Windows; perhaps you have another.  Your 
 Format Selection... is in the same place as my Object 
 Properties...; was one simply renamed as the other?  Does it lead to 
 the option I describe?
 
 I also discover the date column doesn't get put on the bottom of the 
 chart as it does in Excel, and I don't know how to get it there.
 
 In the second step (Data Range) of the Chart Wizard, tick First 
 column as label.

I have 3.2.1 for Mac.  I can't find Object Properties in any of the 
dropdowns.  Apparently the two versions are considerably different, 
which makes it pretty difficult to ask questions that might produce 
useful answers.

Later ...
It turns out I can select a series, right-click on it and get to the 
properties from there.  Apparently I can draw grid lines for the left 
scale but not the right.  Also, apparently, I cannot put the chart in a 
separate tab.  However, I can make fractional log scales, as for 
example, 15000 to 36000.  Excel would force you to use 1 to 10.  
All-in-all I prefer OO even if I can't put the chart in a separate tab.


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[users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-04 Thread Twayne
In news:bob-2bda7c.11353003102...@news.gmane.org,
Robert Peirce b...@peirce-family.com typed:
 I am virtually certain I can't do this in excel.  Can I do
 it in OO?

 Usually, what I want to plot is some kind of price index
 along with some sort of economic series.  Their values are
 going to wildly different. The price series might be
 20,000, while the economic series is 1.8.  I want both to
 fill most of the chart.  Putting the scales on opposite
 sides would be great but not critical.

 If anybody has a method to do this, I would appreciate
 seeing it.

I can't show it to you because it's long ago archived, but I can assure you 
that can be done in both Excel 97 to 2003 and OO.o version 2.4.x to 3.2.1 
which I use now.  include the versions simply because you have no hint of 
the version you have.

In both cases, it's a matter of going to the chart's controls and adding a 
series of data for the wanted axis (usually X). I think it's excel also has 
a decent Help on the subject, and of course there's Google if you don't mind 
the thousands of extraneous hits it'll also include. But if you're good with 
Google ... .
   Sorry about not being more specfic.  Surely I or someone else here (or at 
Microsoft groups) can fix up a couple examples for you. Start wth Bar or 
Line graphs, whichever you like best, so it's simplest to do, then move on 
to what you actually want. Some formats don't lend themselves to this, but 
since you included so little data, ths is all I got to do samples for you. 
The devil's always in the details, you know.

HTH,

Twayne`
H,

Twayne`




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Re: [users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-04 Thread JOE Conner

 On 10/4/2010 7:17 AM, Robert Peirce wrote:

SNIP

Later ...
It turns out I can select a series, right-click on it and get to the
properties from there.  Apparently I can draw grid lines for the left
scale but not the right.  Also, apparently, I cannot put the chart in a
separate tab.  However, I can make fractional log scales, as for
example, 15000 to 36000.  Excel would force you to use 1 to 10.
All-in-all I prefer OO even if I can't put the chart in a separate tab.
Why can you not put the chart in a separate tab?  I have used separate 
worksheets for graphs in OOo

for several years.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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[users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-03 Thread Robert Peirce
In article 743805.78028...@smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com,
 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 At 11:35 03/10/2010 -0400, Robert Peirce wrote:
 I am virtually certain I can't do this in excel.  Can I do it in OO?
 
 Yes, you can do this in OpenOffice, and - dare I admit it here? - you 
 can do it in Excel too.

Okay.  That I would have to figure out if not for your comments below.
 
 Usually, what I want to plot is some kind of price index along with 
 some sort of economic series.  Their values are going to wildly 
 different.  The price series might be 20,000, while the economic 
 series is 1.8.  I want both to fill most of the chart.  Putting the 
 scales on opposite sides would be great but not critical.  If 
 anybody has a method to do this, I would appreciate seeing it.
 
 o  Create your chart in the normal way.
 o  Double-click the chart to select it - so that you see the grey border.
 o  Click one of the data points; the data series is marked with green 
 squares and the relevant column (or row) in the spreadsheet is 
 outlined in blue.
 o  Go to Format | Object Properties... | Options (or right-click | 
 Object Properties... | Options).
 o  Under Align data series to, select Secondary Y axis.
 o  You can repeat this for other data series if necessary if you have 
 more than two series in your chart.

Wonderful!  That is exactly what I needed.


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[users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-03 Thread Robert Peirce
In article bob-88d02d.18231703102...@news.gmane.org,
 Robert Peirce b...@peirce-family.com wrote:

 In article 743805.78028...@smtp823.mail.ird.yahoo.com,
  Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  o  Create your chart in the normal way.
  o  Double-click the chart to select it - so that you see the grey border.
  o  Click one of the data points; the data series is marked with green 
  squares and the relevant column (or row) in the spreadsheet is 
  outlined in blue.
  o  Go to Format | Object Properties... | Options (or right-click | 
  Object Properties... | Options).
  o  Under Align data series to, select Secondary Y axis.
  o  You can repeat this for other data series if necessary if you have 
  more than two series in your chart.
 
 Wonderful!  That is exactly what I needed.

Oops!  When I click on Format, I do not get Object Properties as a 
choice.  What I get are:

Format Selection...
Position and Size... (grayed out)  F4
Arrangement 
--- 
Title   
Legend...
Axis
Grid

Chart Wall...
Chart Floor... (grayed out)
Chart Area...

Chart Type...
Data Ranges...
3D View (grayed out)

I also discover the date column doesn't get put on the bottom of the 
chart as it does in Excel, and I don't know how to get it there.


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Re: [users] Re: Dual scale charts

2010-10-03 Thread Brian Barker

At 18:58 03/10/2010 -0400, Robert Peirce wrote:

Robert Peirce wrote:

Brian Barker wrote:

o  Create your chart in the normal way.
o  Double-click the chart to select it - so that you see the grey border.
o  Click one of the data points; the data series is marked with 
green squares and the relevant column (or row) in the spreadsheet 
is outlined in blue.
o  Go to Format | Object Properties... | Options (or right-click | 
Object Properties... | Options).

o  Under Align data series to, select Secondary Y axis.
o  You can repeat this for other data series if necessary if you 
have more than two series in your chart.


Wonderful!  That is exactly what I needed.


Oops!  When I click on Format, I do not get Object Properties as a 
choice.  What I get are:


Format Selection...
[...]


I have version 3.1.1. for Windows; perhaps you have another.  Your 
Format Selection... is in the same place as my Object 
Properties...; was one simply renamed as the other?  Does it lead to 
the option I describe?


I also discover the date column doesn't get put on the bottom of the 
chart as it does in Excel, and I don't know how to get it there.


In the second step (Data Range) of the Chart Wizard, tick First 
column as label.


Brian Barker


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