[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-07-01 Thread Helen
Alan, I did as you suggested (twice). All the hundreds of columns highlight
in blue, and I delete them, and they turn white but don't go away.
However, I have learned that if I convert the spreadsheet to a google
doc first, I can then upload it to GDocs.
When I convert it go a google doc, that conversion strips out the unused
columns.
Under File in LibreOffice, then Google Docs which has a sub-item
called Export to Google Docs
So the question has become academic, but I'm still baffled as to why I can't
do this if OO or Libre.
Thanks to all.
Helen


On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Alan Boba abo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the
 document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As I
 look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

 You may wish to try
 - select the first column to the right of your last column
 - select all the remaining columns to the right, Ctrl+Shift+rightArrow
 - delete the selected columns, rightClick on any selected column header and
 click Delete columns
 - save the spreadsheet and now try to import to GDocs

 If spreadsheet has had any row based formatting applied, even formatting
 that isn't apparent without contents in cells, e.g. Italic, this expands the
 column range to all columns as far as tracking properties of spreadsheet
 cells go. This is true even though Ctrl+End won't take you to the right most
 column. It will take you only to the right most non-blank column.

 Don't know if this is the root of your problem but have found row or column
 based formatting that continues far beyond the bounds of the data range
 often caused unexpected behavior in my spreadsheets. Discovered this MANY
 moons ago with 1-2-3, Windows version, and have found it true in every
 version of QuattroPro, Excel and Calc since then.




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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-07-01 Thread Alan Boba
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alan, I did as you suggested (twice). All the hundreds of columns highlight
 in blue, and I delete them, and they turn white but don't go away.
 However, I have learned that if I convert the spreadsheet to a google
 doc first, I can then upload it to GDocs.
 When I convert it go a google doc, that conversion strips out the unused
 columns.
 Under File in LibreOffice, then Google Docs which has a sub-item
 called Export to Google Docs
 So the question has become academic, but I'm still baffled as to why I
 can't
 do this if OO or Libre.
 Thanks to all.
 Helen



 On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Alan Boba abo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the
 document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As
 I look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control
 how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

 You may wish to try
 - select the first column to the right of your last column
 - select all the remaining columns to the right, Ctrl+Shift+rightArrow
 - delete the selected columns, rightClick on any selected column header
 and click Delete columns
 - save the spreadsheet and now try to import to GDocs

 If spreadsheet has had any row based formatting applied, even formatting
 that isn't apparent without contents in cells, e.g. Italic, this expands the
 column range to all columns as far as tracking properties of spreadsheet
 cells go. This is true even though Ctrl+End won't take you to the right most
 column. It will take you only to the right most non-blank column.

 Don't know if this is the root of your problem but have found row or
 column based formatting that continues far beyond the bounds of the data
 range often caused unexpected behavior in my spreadsheets. Discovered this
 MANY moons ago with 1-2-3, Windows version, and have found it true in every
 version of QuattroPro, Excel and Calc since then.




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 Helen,

I guess I should have been more clear. What you experienced is what I
expected, the columns don't go away as you found. What does happen though is
non default attributes are removed from all the cells. So even though the
spreadsheet still displays all the columns it's internal map (don't know the
correct term here) of what cells have non default attributes is reduced.

I'm curious did you try and import a spreadsheet after deleting columns and
saving? Or did my lack of explaining the expected outcome (at least to me)
of the delete columns operation keep you from giving it a shot?

If the latter happened perhaps you would try importing one of those
spreadsheets where you deleted columns and let me know if it works? No sense
offering advise that doesn't resolve the issue.
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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread NoOp
On 06/30/2011 09:54 AM, Helen wrote:
 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.
 
 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.
 
 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.
 
 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As I
 look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread JOE Conner

On 6/30/2011 9:54 AM, Helen wrote:

I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the 
document

has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on 
forever.

I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  
As I look

through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control how
many columns it should have?
Thanks very much,
Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4


QUESTION:  If you open your document and then simultaneously press
the two keys CTRL + END what column/row receives the
focus?

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA
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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread Helen
It scoots over to column S.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6/30/2011 9:54 AM, Helen wrote:

 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the
 document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As I
 look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

  QUESTION:  If you open your document and then simultaneously press
 the two keys CTRL + END what column/row receives the
 focus?

 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread JOE Conner

On 6/30/2011 10:35 AM, Helen wrote:

It scoots over to column S.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com 
mailto:joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote:


On 6/30/2011 9:54 AM, Helen wrote:

I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying
 the document
has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on
and on forever.
I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14
columns.  As I look
through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of
all my
spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I
control how
many columns it should have?
Thanks very much,
Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

QUESTION:  If you open your document and then simultaneously press
the two keys CTRL + END what column/row receives the
focus?

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

Helen Etters
using Linux, suse11.4

Then I cannot help you and my idea that there may be an active cell out 
of range does not work.

Joe
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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread Helen
OK - thanks for trying.   I clearly have a hundred or so columns that I
don't know how to delete.
Thanks for the try!
H.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:23 PM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6/30/2011 10:35 AM, Helen wrote:

 It scoots over to column S.

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.commailto:
 joeconner2007@gmail.**com joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote:

On 6/30/2011 9:54 AM, Helen wrote:

I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying
 the document
has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on
and on forever.
I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14
columns.  As I look
through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of
all my
spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I
control how
many columns it should have?
Thanks very much,
Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

QUESTION:  If you open your document and then simultaneously press
the two keys CTRL + END what column/row receives the
focus?

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

 Helen Etters
 using Linux, suse11.4

  Then I cannot help you and my idea that there may be an active cell out
 of range does not work.
 Joe

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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread Debra Barringer
i sometimes have that problem with ms excel also. i just copy and paste my
original data rows and columns into a new spreadsheet - then delete the old
one. never understood why this happens.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 It scoots over to column S.


 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 6/30/2011 9:54 AM, Helen wrote:

 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the
 document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As
 I look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control
 how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

  QUESTION:  If you open your document and then simultaneously press
 the two keys CTRL + END what column/row receives the
 focus?

 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread Helen
How do you prevent the new spreadsheet from creating infinite columns?
Seems all my OO (and libre) spreadsheets take the default of infinite
columns.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Debra Barringer budsran...@gmail.comwrote:

 i sometimes have that problem with ms excel also. i just copy and paste my
 original data rows and columns into a new spreadsheet - then delete the old
 one. never understood why this happens.


 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 It scoots over to column S.


 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 6/30/2011 9:54 AM, Helen wrote:

 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the
 document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As
 I look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control
 how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

  QUESTION:  If you open your document and then simultaneously press
 the two keys CTRL + END what column/row receives the
 focus?

 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread jomali
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you prevent the new spreadsheet from creating infinite columns?
 Seems all my OO (and libre) spreadsheets take the default of infinite
 columns.

 You see infinite columns but the actual number of columns in the OOo
sheet is determined by the last column that has data in it. You can
determine the last cell by doing a ctrl (or cmd on Mac) - end.

Since google seems to see more cells in the sheet, why don't you just open a
new sheet in google docs, then select all active cells in your OOo sheet,
copy them, then past them into the google docs sheet?
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[users] Re: limit # of columns in a spreadsheet

2011-06-30 Thread Alan Boba
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a spreadsheet with 14 columns.

 I tried to upload it to google docs, and got a message saying  the document
 has too many columns, that google  has a limit of 219 columns.

 So I opened my document and I see that the columns just go on and on
 forever.
 I need only the fourteen that I'm using.

 But I don't find how to tell my document that it has only14 columns.  As I
 look
 through my other files,  I see that this seems to be true of all my
 spreadsheets -- that the columns just go on forever.  How do I control how
 many columns it should have?
 Thanks very much,
 Helen, using  LibreOffice 3.3.1 in Suse 11.4

 You may wish to try
- select the first column to the right of your last column
- select all the remaining columns to the right, Ctrl+Shift+rightArrow
- delete the selected columns, rightClick on any selected column header and
click Delete columns
- save the spreadsheet and now try to import to GDocs

If spreadsheet has had any row based formatting applied, even formatting
that isn't apparent without contents in cells, e.g. Italic, this expands the
column range to all columns as far as tracking properties of spreadsheet
cells go. This is true even though Ctrl+End won't take you to the right most
column. It will take you only to the right most non-blank column.

Don't know if this is the root of your problem but have found row or column
based formatting that continues far beyond the bounds of the data range
often caused unexpected behavior in my spreadsheets. Discovered this MANY
moons ago with 1-2-3, Windows version, and have found it true in every
version of QuattroPro, Excel and Calc since then.
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