Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-12 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 10 December 2010 20:43, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Den 2010-12-10 21:13:38 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com:



 Todd Goatley suggested:

  Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO.


 Thank you for your response, but:

 Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program


 There is a Linux version of Adobe Reader, I've used it for years. For Adobe
 Acrobat however, there is no Linux version as far as I know, but that was
 not what was suggested.




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Will Acrobat run under WINE?

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Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-12 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-12 12:18:58 skrev Harold Fuchs  
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On 10 December 2010 20:43, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Den 2010-12-10 21:13:38 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com:




Todd Goatley suggested:

 Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO.




Thank you for your response, but:

Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program



There is a Linux version of Adobe Reader, I've used it for years. For  
Adobe
Acrobat however, there is no Linux version as far as I know, but that  
was

not what was suggested.





snip

Will Acrobat run under WINE?


http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=847

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Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-10 Thread Douglas Hinds

Todd Goatley suggested:

 Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO.

Thank you for your response, but:

Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program, and

Saving to a text file (equivalent to extracting the text) means that
I lose both the graphics and the rest of the page formatting, which

Is not really what I was hoping for.  I was hoping for a faithful
reproduction of the pdf file in an editable format.

In Windows (a now obsolete OS) Solid Converter PDF does a good job
of doing that, but I have not been able to run under Wine (I'm using
TheBat! version 3.99 - an email client for win - to write this with
- WineHQ informer me that version 4 won't run, but v. 3.x will).

Other commercial pdf editors/creators include Foxit but I was hoping
an opensource app was available (Ghostscript will extract to text
but as I mentioned, that's not what I have in mind).

In any case, than you for your response.

Douglas Hinds


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 Subject: [users] PDF Conversion
 Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:51
 
 
 Douglas Hinds wrote:
 OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset.

 However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a
 editable format.




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Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-10 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2010-12-10 21:13:38 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com:



Todd Goatley suggested:


Try Adobe Reader. You can save the doc in text, then open it in OO.


Thank you for your response, but:

Adobe Acrobat Reader is a Windows Program


There is a Linux version of Adobe Reader, I've used it for years. For  
Adobe Acrobat however, there is no Linux version as far as I know, but  
that was not what was suggested.



Best regards

Johnny Rosenberg




, and

Saving to a text file (equivalent to extracting the text) means that
I lose both the graphics and the rest of the page formatting, which

Is not really what I was hoping for.  I was hoping for a faithful
reproduction of the pdf file in an editable format.

In Windows (a now obsolete OS) Solid Converter PDF does a good job
of doing that, but I have not been able to run under Wine (I'm using
TheBat! version 3.99 - an email client for win - to write this with
- WineHQ informer me that version 4 won't run, but v. 3.x will).

Other commercial pdf editors/creators include Foxit but I was hoping
an opensource app was available (Ghostscript will extract to text
but as I mentioned, that's not what I have in mind).

In any case, than you for your response.

Douglas Hinds



Email: tgoat...@gmail.com
Mobile mail: 7752230...@tmomail.com
C: 775-223-0839



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Subject: [users] PDF Conversion
Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:51


Douglas Hinds wrote:

OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset.

However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a
editable format.



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Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-10 Thread Douglas Hinds

 It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not
 adequate.

OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and
each and every line is included in it's own text box so the
documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing.  The
letterhead didn't appear, either.  And we are describing a pdf
document created in writer and exported to pdf from there.

 What type of editing do you want to do?

I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable
form.

 Where does OOo fail to do what you want?

It doesn't do the above.  OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means
it's a graphics rather than a document file.

Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is
the reason for my post today to users at oo.org.

Any ideas?

Douglas Hinds


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Re: Re[2]: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-10 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2010-12-10 21:47:08 skrev Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com:




It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not
adequate.


OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and
each and every line is included in it's own text box so the
documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing.  The
letterhead didn't appear, either.  And we are describing a pdf
document created in writer and exported to pdf from there.


What type of editing do you want to do?


I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable
form.


Where does OOo fail to do what you want?


It doesn't do the above.  OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means
it's a graphics rather than a document file.

Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is
the reason for my post today to users at oo.org.

Any ideas?

Douglas Hinds



Well, there are a few PDF editors out there, most of them are crap, but  
you have to find out for yourself what suits your need best. Someone has  
already mentioned PDF Editor. You can also edit PDF files in Scribus I  
think, and maybe even Incscape.


There are also commercial software, one of them is PDF Studio, which I  
installed on my system. You can use it without paying anything for a short  
period of time and after that you need to purchase or use a somewhat  
crippled version…


But not everything is free in life, not even for Linux users some times…

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