Re: [Users] Statistics of virtual machines
02/20/2012 12:01 AM, зоррыч wrote: Hi. I useScientific linux 6.2on the nodes. The problem is thatthe field "Ip Address"and thememoryis alwaysempty (memori.png) Why not? vdsmnot support scientific linux, but I editedthe file/etc/redhat-release on Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.2 (Santiago)for a successful installation. Howvdsm % loaddetermines thememoryaddressand unvirtual machine? you need to install the ovirt-guest-agent on the guest for these. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 02/20/2012 09:12 AM, Livnat Peer wrote: On 19/02/12 19:21, Brent Bolin wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be suggested. Hi Brent, ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations). This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the engine core requires many packages. If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There are things that need to be taken care of such as- - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process of the host.. We are adding a flag (host property) to avoid host reboot at the end of host installation. This will be available soon and we are thinking to expose it only through the API (not in the UI). I think there are two different reboot's being discussed here: 1. reboot at end of an ovirt-node installation by ovirt node installation process (anaconda?) 2. reboot at end of configuring a full blown host (i.e., pre installed fedora), by ovirt-engine. I'm assuming perry was talking on #1. doron is talking on #2, since all-in-one is not relevant at this point for #1. 2. reb ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
Hey, More information on the domain infrastructure we have can be found in: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/DomainInfrastructure (I might update it more soon, but it can give you a basic view of how the domain management in oVirt is working, and what do you need to update in order to support a new ldap provider). Oved - Original Message - > From: "Itamar Heim" > To: "Nathan Stratton" > Cc: users@ovirt.org > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:14:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] LDAP > > On 02/19/2012 11:11 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote: > > > >> the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS. > >> if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could > >> try > >> hacking the code to add support for it. > > > > Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in > > the > > family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : ) > > please remember you need 389ds with kerberos support. > > gluster is in the works... > see: > http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/AddingGlusterSupportToOvirt > > > > > Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work. > > > >> <> > > Nathan Stratton CTO, BlinkMind, Inc. > > nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com > > http://www.robotics.net http://www.blinkmind.com > > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 19/02/12 19:21, Brent Bolin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: >> On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: >>> Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be >>> suggested. >> >> Hi Brent, >> ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some >> configurations). >> This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the >> engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the >> engine core requires many packages. >> >> If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then >> we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There >> are things that need to be taken care of such as- >> - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which >> is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process >> of the host.. We are adding a flag (host property) to avoid host reboot at the end of host installation. This will be available soon and we are thinking to expose it only through the API (not in the UI). >> - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any >> circumstances, >> in order to protect the engine core. >> - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So >> here again >> we need to be careful. >> >> To conclude, >> it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and >> engine-core. >> However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are >> thoughts >> and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time. >> -- >> >> /d >> >> “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly >> get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to >> the Galaxy > > Thanks for your reply. > > I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I > think the technology is going. Very interested in the GUI management > and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows > client(vSphere). > > The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen. stdout > errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt. > Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without > success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password > to a known value. > > Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the > install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO. Doing a minimal > install. > > Was able to bring up the mgmt UI. Saw exactly what your talking about > requiring a reboot when adding a node host. Wasn't sure if that's the > way it's suppose to work or not. Kinda like the surgeon working on > his own hands!. Don't think the node registration fully installed > itself because it re-booty up'ed itself. > > Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried. Example: using > loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address. Not sure if the node > host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... . > > Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know. > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 20/02/12 03:55, Perry Myers wrote: > On 02/19/2012 07:17 PM, Brent Bolin wrote: and the install just not working without more then one attempt. >>> >>> Can you provide more details? Otherwise we can't fix the issues. >> >> Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to >> reboot. Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting >> "reinstall" fixes it other times not. Makes me wonder if ovirt iso >> install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants. > > It should be able to. Over the past months we've made numerous fixes > for this. > > However, if you have already installed oVirt Node to the disk, you need > to select the 'Reinstall' option from the Grub menu (listed under > Troubleshooting menu option in Grub) > > So perhaps what you're seeing is Install vs. Reinstall. In any case, we > should handle this more gracefully or at least provide some add'l > diagnostics to indicate the core reason why it failed to install. > > If you could file a bug against the ovirt-node component in bugzilla, we > can definitely try to make this more user friendly. > Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password to a known value. >>> >>> Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt >>> Engine onto oVirt Node. The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes >>> running the mgmt server there not possible. >> >> I don't understand this statement. Are you talking about firewall >> stateless connections? > > The filesystem in oVirt Node is stateless. If you attempt to install an > rpm, when you reboot the changes are lost. The entire filesystem is in > RAM aside from a few select configuration files that are manually > persisted to a 5MB config partition on disk. > >>> If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt >>> controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and >>> put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that. >>> >>> The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not >>> a bug, or a sign of instability. It's simply not what oVirt Node was >>> designed for. >> >> I understand this. However in these days of my old age I don't run >> half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to >> use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment. Right now I >> accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager > > Right. We're not suggesting that you can't use oVirt in this way. You > should absolutely be able to use a single physical host running Fedora > 16 and on that host run both the oVirt Engine as well as vdsm, so that > you can have an 'oVirt in a single box' setup. > > All we were saying here is that you can't use oVirt Node specifically to > do the above, since it's a livecd with a stateless filesystem and > contains 'just enough OS' to run virtual machines, and no where near > enough OS to run a mgmt server. > > Now, what should be possible... is to run oVirt Node and run on that > node a single VM that is not managed by oVirt Engine, and run the engine > inside that VM. However in order to do this, you'd need to get past a > chicken-egg issue with starting a VM on oVirt Node prior to it being > registered with the oVirt Engine. > > I wonder if we should expose a special command/config option in oVirt > Node to allow it to run a single VM so that oVirt Engine can be > colocated as a VM. Anyone have any thoughts on that? > I think worth opening a discussion on arch list. >> The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using >> native kvm, management server without the need of windows server, >> vmotion type clustering etc... > > All of that is accurate > >> I am going to look over Doron notes. Specifically the networking. >> >> Cheers... keep up the good work. > > Thanks for the feedback and experimentation :) > > Perry > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
On 19/02/12 23:27, зоррыч wrote: > Support a living export (similar to a live snapshot) will be added in the > future? > We have a request to provide a backup API and it is on the roadmap not sure how soon we'll handle that. Another feature you can find relevant (and will be available soon) is creating VM from snapshot. Although far from perfect you can use live snapshot and then create VM from that snapshot. (If you really want this on export domain you can export the VM you created). Livnat > > > -Original Message- > From: Livnat Peer [mailto:lp...@redhat.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:56 PM > To: зоррыч > Cc: users@ovirt.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots > > On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote: >> Hi >> Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is >> suspended? >> Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the >> virtual machine. >> This is the right behavior? > > Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported. > >> Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended >> virtual machine to. >> I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient. >> > > Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables taking a > snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps. > > Livnat > >> ___ >> Users mailing list >> Users@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Virtual CPU
On 2012-2-20 2:02, зоррыч wrote: Hi I set uptwonodesrunningovirt. The configuration ofboth serversis identical (node.png). when you create avirtual machine toasetting is per(vm.png). It runssuccessfully. Ifthe setting"Number of CPUCres," set to3(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per Socket) (fail.png) - VMwill not start.ovirterror: “Cannot run VM.There are no available running Hosts with enough cores in VM's Cluster.” Why not? Do I understand correctlythat the value of(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per Socket)means 3virtualCPU onaphysicalprocessor corenodes? Number of CPUCres: 2 (2Socket (s),1Core (s) per Socket) -the virtual machineis startedsuccessfully Number of CPUCres: 4 (2 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -error. Number of CPUCres: 2 (1 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -the successful launch ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users The number of active VMs is bigger than the physical cores in the host. -- Shu Ming IBM China Systems and Technology Laboratory ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 02/19/2012 07:17 PM, Brent Bolin wrote: >>> and the install just not working without more then one attempt. >> >> Can you provide more details? Otherwise we can't fix the issues. > > Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to > reboot. Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting > "reinstall" fixes it other times not. Makes me wonder if ovirt iso > install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants. It should be able to. Over the past months we've made numerous fixes for this. However, if you have already installed oVirt Node to the disk, you need to select the 'Reinstall' option from the Grub menu (listed under Troubleshooting menu option in Grub) So perhaps what you're seeing is Install vs. Reinstall. In any case, we should handle this more gracefully or at least provide some add'l diagnostics to indicate the core reason why it failed to install. If you could file a bug against the ovirt-node component in bugzilla, we can definitely try to make this more user friendly. >>> Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without >>> success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password >>> to a known value. >> >> Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt >> Engine onto oVirt Node. The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes >> running the mgmt server there not possible. > > I don't understand this statement. Are you talking about firewall > stateless connections? The filesystem in oVirt Node is stateless. If you attempt to install an rpm, when you reboot the changes are lost. The entire filesystem is in RAM aside from a few select configuration files that are manually persisted to a 5MB config partition on disk. >> If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt >> controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and >> put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that. >> >> The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not >> a bug, or a sign of instability. It's simply not what oVirt Node was >> designed for. > > I understand this. However in these days of my old age I don't run > half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to > use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment. Right now I > accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager Right. We're not suggesting that you can't use oVirt in this way. You should absolutely be able to use a single physical host running Fedora 16 and on that host run both the oVirt Engine as well as vdsm, so that you can have an 'oVirt in a single box' setup. All we were saying here is that you can't use oVirt Node specifically to do the above, since it's a livecd with a stateless filesystem and contains 'just enough OS' to run virtual machines, and no where near enough OS to run a mgmt server. Now, what should be possible... is to run oVirt Node and run on that node a single VM that is not managed by oVirt Engine, and run the engine inside that VM. However in order to do this, you'd need to get past a chicken-egg issue with starting a VM on oVirt Node prior to it being registered with the oVirt Engine. I wonder if we should expose a special command/config option in oVirt Node to allow it to run a single VM so that oVirt Engine can be colocated as a VM. Anyone have any thoughts on that? > The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using > native kvm, management server without the need of windows server, > vmotion type clustering etc... All of that is accurate > I am going to look over Doron notes. Specifically the networking. > > Cheers... keep up the good work. Thanks for the feedback and experimentation :) Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
Replies inserted into the message. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Perry Myers wrote: >> The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen. stdout >> errors > > I believe this was fixed in the latest ISO build, and fwiw it's > completely cosmetic. > >> and the install just not working without more then one attempt. > > Can you provide more details? Otherwise we can't fix the issues. Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to reboot. Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting "reinstall" fixes it other times not. Makes me wonder if ovirt iso install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants. > >> Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without >> success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password >> to a known value. > > Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt > Engine onto oVirt Node. The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes > running the mgmt server there not possible. I don't understand this statement. Are you talking about firewall stateless connections? > > If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt > controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and > put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that. > > The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not > a bug, or a sign of instability. It's simply not what oVirt Node was > designed for. I understand this. However in these days of my old age I don't run half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment. Right now I accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using native kvm, management server without the need of windows server, vmotion type clustering etc... I am going to look over Doron notes. Specifically the networking. Cheers... keep up the good work. btb > > Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Virtual CPU
- Original Message - > From: "зоррыч" > To: "Yaniv Kaul" > Cc: users@ovirt.org > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:34:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Virtual CPU > > > > > > You can explain in this case means that the field " Total Cores " and > " CPU Sockets " in the menu to create a new virtual machine ( > cpu.png)? > > Your virtual machine has 1 socket with a total of 2 cores. > > > > > > > > From: Yaniv Kaul [mailto:yk...@redhat.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:29 PM > To: зоррыч > Cc: users@ovirt.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Virtual CPU > > > > On 02/19/2012 08:02 PM, зоррыч wrote: > > Hi > > I set up two nodes running ovirt . > The configuration of both servers is identical ( node.png). > when you create a virtual machine to a setting is per ( vm.png). It > runs successfully. > If the setting "Number of CPU Cres ," set to 3 (1 Socket (s), 3 Core > (s) per Socket) ( fail.png) - VM will not start. ovirt error: > “Cannot run VM. There are no available running Hosts with enough > cores in VM's Cluster.” > Why not? > > > > > You cannot run a VM with more sockets than the host's cores. > Y. > > > > > > Do I understand correctly that the value of (1 Socket (s), 3 Core (s) > per Socket) means 3 virtual CPU on a physical processor core nodes ? > Number of CPU Cres : 2 (2 Socket (s), 1 Core (s) per Socket) - the > virtual machine is started successfully > Number of CPU Cres : 4 (2 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - error. > Number of CPU Cres : 2 (1 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - the > successful launch > > > > > ___ Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] Statistics of virtual machines
Hi. I use Scientific linux 6.2 on the nodes. The problem is that the field "Ip Address" and the memory is always empty (memori.png) Why not? vdsm not support scientific linux, but I edited the file /etc/redhat-release on Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.2 (Santiago) for a successful installation. How vdsm % load determines the memory address and un virtual machine? Vdsm.log(node): Thread-143582::DEBUG::2012-02-19 16:43:51,692::clientIF::59::vds::(wrapper) return getVmStats with {'status': {'message': 'Done', 'code': 0}, 'statsList': [{'status': 'Up', 'username': 'Unknown', 'memUsage': '0', 'acpiEnable': 'true', 'pid': '6344', 'displayIp': '10.2.20.8', 'displayPort': u'5900', 'session': 'Unknown', 'displaySecurePort': '-1', 'timeOffset': '28', 'pauseCode': 'NOERR', 'clientIp': '', 'kvmEnable': 'true', 'network': {u'vnet0': {'macAddr': u'00:1a:4a:a8:7a:0d', 'rxDropped': '0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'txDropped': '0', 'txRate': '0.0', 'rxRate': '0.0', 'txErrors': '0', 'state': 'unknown', 'speed': '1000', 'name': u'vnet0'}}, 'vmId': '0a3c7b86-b5f2-43b7-a4c1-4bbba10d46c6', 'monitorResponse': '0', 'cpuUser': '39.86', 'disks': {u'vda': {'readLatency': '1496993', 'apparentsize': '12058624', 'writeLatency': '104532640', 'imageID': 'c146b12f-ddb9-468f-b4ed-aca758df137a', 'flushLatency': '38107', 'readRate': '1626746.53', 'truesize': '11939840', 'writeRate': '23148.73'}}, 'boot': 'c', 'statsAge': '1.03', 'cpuIdle': '60.14', 'elapsedTime': '62', 'vmType': 'kvm', 'cpuSys': '0.00', 'appsList': [], 'guestIPs': '', 'displayType': 'vnc', 'nice': ''}]} <>___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Virtual CPU
You can explain in this case means that the field "Total Cores " and "CPU Sockets" in the menu to create a new virtual machine (cpu.png)? From: Yaniv Kaul [mailto:yk...@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:29 PM To: зоррыч Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Virtual CPU On 02/19/2012 08:02 PM, зоррыч wrote: Hi I set up two nodes running ovirt. The configuration of both servers is identical (node.png). when you create a virtual machine to a setting is per (vm.png). It runs successfully. If the setting "Number of CPU Cres," set to 3 (1 Socket (s), 3 Core (s) per Socket) (fail.png) - VM will not start. ovirt error: “Cannot run VM. There are no available running Hosts with enough cores in VM's Cluster.” Why not? You cannot run a VM with more sockets than the host's cores. Y. Do I understand correctly that the value of (1 Socket (s), 3 Core (s) per Socket) means 3 virtual CPU on a physical processor core nodes? Number of CPU Cres: 2 (2 Socket (s), 1 Core (s) per Socket) - the virtual machine is started successfully Number of CPU Cres: 4 (2 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - error. Number of CPU Cres: 2 (1 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - the successful launch ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users <>___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
Support a living export (similar to a live snapshot) will be added in the future? -Original Message- From: Livnat Peer [mailto:lp...@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:56 PM To: зоррыч Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote: > Hi > Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is > suspended? > Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the > virtual machine. > This is the right behavior? Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported. > Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended > virtual machine to. > I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient. > Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables taking a snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps. Livnat > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On 02/19/2012 11:11 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote: the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS. if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try hacking the code to add support for it. Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in the family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : ) please remember you need 389ds with kerberos support. gluster is in the works... see: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/AddingGlusterSupportToOvirt Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work. <> Nathan Stratton CTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.net http://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote: the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS. if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try hacking the code to add support for it. Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in the family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : ) Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work. <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On 02/19/2012 10:36 PM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote: On 02/19/2012 10:30 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed. I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing. Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server? Sorry Nathan, we do not support this one as well. the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS. if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try hacking the code to add support for it. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
> The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen. stdout > errors I believe this was fixed in the latest ISO build, and fwiw it's completely cosmetic. > and the install just not working without more then one attempt. Can you provide more details? Otherwise we can't fix the issues. > Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without > success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password > to a known value. Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt Engine onto oVirt Node. The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes running the mgmt server there not possible. If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that. The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not a bug, or a sign of instability. It's simply not what oVirt Node was designed for. Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On 02/19/2012 10:30 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > >> Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support >> OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a >> way to proceed. >> I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing. > > Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server? Sorry Nathan, we do not support this one as well. Yair > >> <> > Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. > nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com > http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com > >> Y. > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed. I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing. Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server? <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com Y. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
- Original Message - > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > > > I'd try with wireshark to capture ports 88, 53 and 389 (something > > like '-s > > 1500 -w /tmp/file.pcap port 53 or port 88 or port 389' if you are > > using > > tcpdump). > > http://share.robotics.net/ldap.pcap > > > Then check that indeed the responses from DNS correlate well with > > what we are > > trying to connect to. > > Yep, its hitting the LDAP server, just not getting what it wants > back. Is > it possible that it does not like the "" and that it should be > ""? > > I.E. If I do: > > [root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b > "" + > # extended LDIF > # > # LDAPv3 > # base <> with scope baseObject > # filter: (objectclass=*) > # requesting: + > # > > # > dn: > structuralObjectClass: OpenLDAProotDSE Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed. I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing. Y. > configContext: cn=config > namingContexts: dc=blinkmind,dc=net > supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.9.1.1 > supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.18 > supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.2 > supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.10.1 > supportedControl: 1.2.840.113556.1.4.319 > supportedControl: 1.2.826.0.1.3344810.2.3 > supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.2 > supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.1 > supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.12 > supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.1 > supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.3 > supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.1.8 > supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.1.14 > supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.1 > supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.2 > supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.3 > supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.4 > supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.5 > supportedLDAPVersion: 3 > entryDN: > subschemaSubentry: cn=Subschema > > # search result > search: 2 > result: 0 Success > > # numResponses: 2 > # numEntries: 1 > > But if I do: > > [root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b > "" + > # extended LDIF > # > # LDAPv3 > # base <> with scope baseObject > # filter: (objectclass=*) > # requesting: + > # > > # search result > search: 2 > result: 34 Invalid DN syntax > text: invalid DN > > # numResponses: 1 > > > > > (BTW, there was a regression in the code not so long ago in that > > area - are > > you using latest code?). > > 3.0.0_0001-1.6.fc16 > > ><> > Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. > nathan at robotics.net nathan at > blinkmind.com > http://www.robotics.net >http://www.blinkmind.com > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: I'd try with wireshark to capture ports 88, 53 and 389 (something like '-s 1500 -w /tmp/file.pcap port 53 or port 88 or port 389' if you are using tcpdump). http://share.robotics.net/ldap.pcap Then check that indeed the responses from DNS correlate well with what we are trying to connect to. Yep, its hitting the LDAP server, just not getting what it wants back. Is it possible that it does not like the "" and that it should be ""? I.E. If I do: [root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b "" + # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base <> with scope baseObject # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: + # # dn: structuralObjectClass: OpenLDAProotDSE configContext: cn=config namingContexts: dc=blinkmind,dc=net supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.9.1.1 supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.18 supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.2 supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.10.1 supportedControl: 1.2.840.113556.1.4.319 supportedControl: 1.2.826.0.1.3344810.2.3 supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.2 supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.1 supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.12 supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.1 supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.3 supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.1.8 supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.1.14 supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.1 supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.2 supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.3 supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.4 supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.5 supportedLDAPVersion: 3 entryDN: subschemaSubentry: cn=Subschema # search result search: 2 result: 0 Success # numResponses: 2 # numEntries: 1 But if I do: [root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b "" + # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base <> with scope baseObject # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: + # # search result search: 2 result: 34 Invalid DN syntax text: invalid DN # numResponses: 1 (BTW, there was a regression in the code not so long ago in that area - are you using latest code?). 3.0.0_0001-1.6.fc16 <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote: > Hi > Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is > suspended? > Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the > virtual machine. > This is the right behavior? Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported. > Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended > virtual machine to. > I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient. > Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables taking a snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps. Livnat > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Virtual CPU
On 02/19/2012 08:02 PM, зоррыч wrote: Hi I set uptwonodesrunningovirt. The configuration ofboth serversis identical (node.png). when you create avirtual machine toasetting is per(vm.png). It runssuccessfully. Ifthe setting"Number of CPUCres," set to3(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per Socket) (fail.png) - VMwill not start.ovirterror: “Cannot run VM.There are no available running Hosts with enough cores in VM's Cluster.” Why not? You cannot run a VM with more sockets than the host's cores. Y. Do I understand correctlythat the value of(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per Socket)means 3virtualCPU onaphysicalprocessor corenodes? Number of CPUCres: 2 (2Socket (s),1Core (s) per Socket) -the virtual machineis startedsuccessfully Number of CPUCres: 4 (2 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -error. Number of CPUCres: 2 (1 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -the successful launch ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On 02/19/2012 09:02 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: I am working on getting ovirt working with our LDAP enviornment and have run into a few issues. Based on my googling my understanding is that ovirt should query DNS for a ldap SRV record. However based on my wireshark captures I never see such a request. I ended up installing phpPgAdmin and found the vdc_options table and someting called DomainName. I figured that was a good place to start so I put our domain there and now I see the DNS SRV queries. I'd try with wireshark to capture ports 88, 53 and 389 (something like '-s 1500 -w /tmp/file.pcap port 53 or port 88 or port 389' if you are using tcpdump). Then check that indeed the responses from DNS correlate well with what we are trying to connect to. (BTW, there was a regression in the code not so long ago in that area - are you using latest code?). Y. In the logs I see: 2012-02-19 12:58:26,532 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask] (pool-5-thread-47) Couldnt deduce provider type for domain blinkmind.net 2012-02-19 12:58:26,533 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed ldap search server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389 due to org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: Failed to get rootDSE record for server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389. We should try the next server: org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: Failed to get rootDSE record for server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389 at org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask.call(GetRootDSETask.java:68) [engine-bll.jar:] at org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:101) [engine-bll.jar:] at org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:97) [engine-bll.jar:] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) [:1.6.0_22] at org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.threadpool.ThreadPoolUtil$InternalWrapperRunnable.run(ThreadPoolUtil.java:57) [utils-3.0.0-0001.jar:] at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1110) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:603) [:1.6.0_22] at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679) [:1.6.0_22] 2012-02-19 12:58:26,537 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.LdapAuthenticateUserCommand] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed authenticating user: nathan to domain blinkmind.net. Ldap Query Type is getUserByName 2012-02-19 12:58:26,538 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR : nathan 2012-02-19 12:58:26,539 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) CanDoAction of action LoginAdminUser failed. Reasons:USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR All our linux boxes use the same LDAP server without issue, so I know that part is working. P.S. What is LDAPSecurityAuthentication (option_id 2) and what should it be set to? <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] LDAP
I am working on getting ovirt working with our LDAP enviornment and have run into a few issues. Based on my googling my understanding is that ovirt should query DNS for a ldap SRV record. However based on my wireshark captures I never see such a request. I ended up installing phpPgAdmin and found the vdc_options table and someting called DomainName. I figured that was a good place to start so I put our domain there and now I see the DNS SRV queries. In the logs I see: 2012-02-19 12:58:26,532 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask] (pool-5-thread-47) Couldnt deduce provider type for domain blinkmind.net 2012-02-19 12:58:26,533 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed ldap search server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389 due to org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: Failed to get rootDSE record for server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389. We should try the next server: org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: Failed to get rootDSE record for server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389 at org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask.call(GetRootDSETask.java:68) [engine-bll.jar:] at org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:101) [engine-bll.jar:] at org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:97) [engine-bll.jar:] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) [:1.6.0_22] at org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.threadpool.ThreadPoolUtil$InternalWrapperRunnable.run(ThreadPoolUtil.java:57) [utils-3.0.0-0001.jar:] at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1110) [:1.6.0_22] at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:603) [:1.6.0_22] at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679) [:1.6.0_22] 2012-02-19 12:58:26,537 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.LdapAuthenticateUserCommand] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed authenticating user: nathan to domain blinkmind.net. Ldap Query Type is getUserByName 2012-02-19 12:58:26,538 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR : nathan 2012-02-19 12:58:26,539 WARN [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) CanDoAction of action LoginAdminUser failed. Reasons:USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR All our linux boxes use the same LDAP server without issue, so I know that part is working. P.S. What is LDAPSecurityAuthentication (option_id 2) and what should it be set to? <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Brent Bolin wrote: I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I think the technology is going. Very interested in the GUI management and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows client(vSphere). The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen. stdout errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt. Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password to a known value. Hmm, have not tried the ISO because we also run other things on the host such as gluster. Its just easier for us to start from a minimal F16 install. Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO. Doing a minimal install. Was able to bring up the mgmt UI. Saw exactly what your talking about requiring a reboot when adding a node host. Wasn't sure if that's the way it's suppose to work or not. Kinda like the surgeon working on his own hands!. Don't think the node registration fully installed itself because it re-booty up'ed itself. Once things come back up you should be able to restart disarmed and have it talked to the engine. Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried. Example: using loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address. Not sure if the node host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... . There are a LOT of different ways to set it up, I have dual nicks so I bond them together with: [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-bond0 DEVICE=bond0 MTU=9000 BOOTPROTO=no ONBOOT=yes BONDING_OPTS="mode=4 miimon=100" BRIDGE=ovirtmgmt [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth0 DEVICE=eth0 MTU=9000 ONBOOT=yes MASTER=bond0 SLAVE=yes [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth1 DEVICE=eth1 MTU=9000 ONBOOT=yes MASTER=bond0 SLAVE=yes I don't really like the requirement for ovirtmgmt, since we already have a private bridge I wish I could use that, but since overt requires it... [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-ovirtmgmt DEVICE=ovirtmgmt ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=10.13.1.101 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=10.13.1.1 TYPE=Bridge Ovirt will use that IP for things like spice, so your going to need to make sure it is reachable at least locally. I then have two vlans, VLAN2 for private and VLAN8 for public IP traffic from my VMs. [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-bond0.2 DEVICE=bond0.2 BOOTPROTO=none ONBOOT=yes VLAN=yes BRIDGE=private [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-bond0.8 DEVICE=bond0.8 BOOTPROTO=none ONBOOT=yes VLAN=yes BRIDGE=public [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-private DEVICE=private ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=none TYPE=Bridge [root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-public DEVICE=public ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=none TYPE=Bridge A setup like the above is not required, just works for us. Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know. I have been running KVM/OpenVZ/Xen for years, but I am very new (read a few weeks) to ovirt. I like it much better then our manual / scrips we use in production today and hope to have it in production as soon as I figure out a few more things. <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Brent Bolin wrote: Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be suggested. Its possible, I tried it and it does work, but I ended up ditching the idea because I wanted all my node boxes to be identical. What I am working on now is getting ovirt-engine to work as a guest on a node. First setup ovirt on a stand alone box Setup everything the way you want it Create a overt-engine VM Shutdown the first ovirt-engine (the guest ovirt-engine will stay up) Import the DB into the VM engine Start the ovirt-engine on the VM If you need to start a cold cluster you fire up all your nodes and then manually start ovirt-engine VM on one of the nodes. <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Shu Ming wrote: On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote: Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node. Does the guest(VM) hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the ovirt-engine? If It does, it looks like a logical loop here. Say, if the ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM, the ovirt-engine will also be stopped. There are issues to be worked out, but I think it makes more sense then dedicated hardware for the ovirt-engine. <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
Hi Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is suspended? Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the virtual machine. This is the right behavior? Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended virtual machine to. I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] migration failed
Thank you! There was a wrong host on one of the nodes in /etc/hostname -Original Message- From: Nathan Stratton [mailto:nat...@robotics.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:27 PM To: ?? Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] migration failed On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, ?? wrote: > How do I fix it? > I checked the host name on both nodes and found that they resolves > correctly (there is an entry in /etc/hostname). > In DNS hostname is not registered (!) Have you tried entering them all in /etc/hosts? ><> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: >> Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be >> suggested. > > Hi Brent, > ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations). > This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the > engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the > engine core requires many packages. > > If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then > we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There > are things that need to be taken care of such as- > - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which > is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process > of the host.. > - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any > circumstances, > in order to protect the engine core. > - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So > here again > we need to be careful. > > To conclude, > it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and > engine-core. > However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are > thoughts > and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time. > -- > > /d > > “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly > get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to > the Galaxy Thanks for your reply. I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I think the technology is going. Very interested in the GUI management and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows client(vSphere). The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen. stdout errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt. Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password to a known value. Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO. Doing a minimal install. Was able to bring up the mgmt UI. Saw exactly what your talking about requiring a reboot when adding a node host. Wasn't sure if that's the way it's suppose to work or not. Kinda like the surgeon working on his own hands!. Don't think the node registration fully installed itself because it re-booty up'ed itself. Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried. Example: using loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address. Not sure if the node host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... . Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: > Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be > suggested. Hi Brent, ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations). This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the engine core requires many packages. If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There are things that need to be taken care of such as- - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process of the host.. - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any circumstances, in order to protect the engine core. - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So here again we need to be careful. To conclude, it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and engine-core. However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are thoughts and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time. -- /d “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM
On 02/19/2012 05:17 PM, Shu Ming wrote: On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote: Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node. Does the guest(VM) hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the ovirt-engine? If It does, it looks like a logical loop here. Say, if the ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM, the ovirt-engine will also be stopped. could be, but still not. and yes, would need to be self-aware to recognize the loop. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] [vdsm] Restoring Virtual Machines
On 02/19/2012 04:45 PM, Igor Lvovsky wrote: -Original Message- From: vdsm-devel-boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org [mailto:vdsm-devel- boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:13 PM To: ?? Cc: users@ovirt.org; vdsm-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org Subject: Re: [vdsm] [Users] Restoring Virtual Machines On 02/17/2012 11:51 AM, ?? wrote: Can I use the "data of storage domain", created in the old ovirt to import virtual machines in a new ovirt? It is possible to convert the "data of storage domain" in "export domain" manually? To mount it as a "Export domain" in a new overt No, it's impossible. The export domain has specific layout (similar to layout of master domain) that contains for example VM's ovf files. In theory you can 'hijack' master domain, but the flow is very complicated and not recommended. if someone has only a single master storage domain, why can't they make it an export domain? cc-ing vdsm-devel on how to change the metadata of the SD to make it an export domain, instead of a data domain (which is pretty arbitrary iirc). -Original Message- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:36 AM To: ?? Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Restoring Virtual Machines On 02/15/2012 11:43 AM, ?? wrote: hi, in the process of testing ovirt some questions: 1. If you are upgrading ovirt we erased the database postgress, whether it is possible to restore the list of virtual machines without having to restore the database from the dump? Take a virtual machine working on the nodes. not easily right now. easiest (other than restore) would probably be to make the storage domain into an export domain, and import from it in the new engine. 2. Is it possible to manage virtual machines through the cli? yes. 3. Is it possible to arrange a backup of virtual machines without interruption of its performance? I don't think there is a simple answer to this question. can you explain what is the exact concern? thanks, Itamar ___ vdsm-devel mailing list vdsm-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/vdsm-devel ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM
On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote: Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node. Does the guest(VM) hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the ovirt-engine? If It does, it looks like a logical loop here. Say, if the ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM, the ovirt-engine will also be stopped. P.S. Are there any plans for redundant ovirt engines in the works? <> Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Shu Ming IBM China Systems and Technology Laboratory ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be suggested. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM
On 02/18/2012 08:16 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node. P.S. Are there any plans for redundant ovirt engines in the works? it is something on the roadmap, but nothing concrete yet other than run it under a clustering service. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ANNOUNCE: ovirt-engine-cli 2.0
SRPMS and new RPMS/tarballs are now available at ovirt.org. - Original Message - > Hi. > SRС RPM packages are not found > > [root@noc-2-synt ~]# yum install ovirt-engine-cli > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, security > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile > * elrepo: jur-linux.org > * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-debuginfo: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-fastbugs: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-testing: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-testing-source: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > Setting up Install Process > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 0:2.0-1.fc16 will be installed > --> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package: > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > --> Processing Dependency: ovirt-engine-sdk >= 1.5 for package: > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > --> Processing Dependency: python-ply for package: > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > --> Processing Dependency: python-setuptools for package: > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 0:2.0-1.fc16 will be installed > --> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package: > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > --> Processing Dependency: python-ply for package: > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > ---> Package ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 0:1.5-1.fc16 will be installed > --> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package: > ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1.fc16.noarch > ---> Package python-setuptools.noarch 0:0.6.10-3.el6 will be > installed > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine) >Requires: python(abi) = 2.7 >Installed: python-2.6.6-29.el6.x86_64 (@sl/6.1) >python(abi) = 2.6 > Error: Package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine) >Requires: python-ply > Error: Package: ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine) >Requires: python(abi) = 2.7 >Installed: python-2.6.6-29.el6.x86_64 (@sl/6.1) >python(abi) = 2.6 > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest > > > > > [root@noc-2-synt ~]# yumdownloader --source ovirt-engine-cli > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile > * elrepo: jur-linux.org > * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-debuginfo: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-fastbugs: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-testing: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > * sl-testing-source: ftp2.scientificlinux.org > Enabling sl-source repository > No source RPM found for ovirt-engine-cli-1.2-1.fc16.x86_64 > No source RPM found for ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch > > [root@noc-2-synt ~]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/ovirt-engine.repo > [ovirt-engine] > name=ovirt-engine > baseurl=http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ > enabled=1 > gpgcheck=0 > > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On > Behalf Of > Michael Pasternak > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:55 PM > To: users@ovirt.org > Subject: Re: [Users] ANNOUNCE: ovirt-engine-cli 2.0 > > > Please use second release (it's fixes typo in 'create vm' template > argument) > > ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-2.fc16.noarch.rpm > ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-2.fc16.noarch.rpm > > On 02/16/2012 01:27 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm happy to announce the general oVirt CLI 2.0 availability, > > > > New features: > > > > > > - New application core. > > - Added support for commands history stack. > > - Added support for context aware auto-completion. > > - Dynamic ovirt-engine-sdk metadata discovering. > > - Dynamic help for each command and resource. > > - Removed restriction for specific version of ovirt-engine-sdk > > from 1.5 and further ovirt-engine-cli can work with any > > version of sdk (unless sdk introduced cli incompatible change). > > - same naming convention in ovirt-engine-cli and ovirt-engine-sdk. > > - reformatted output to support reduced and expended modes in > > 'list' in 'show' commands by --show-all argument. > > - new object fields formatting. > > - added support for linux bash commands from the cli. > > - shell redirection support. > > - added SSL connection capabilities to 'connect' command. > > - added API version discovering mechanism. > > > > RPMs > > > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1 > > .fc16.noarch.rpm > > http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1 > > .fc16.noarch.rpm > > > > > > Misc > > > > > > - use 'help' for syntax/arguments questions. > > - use completion for option variables as they get converted > > to > > command line options with different syntax. > > - cli still requires supe
Re: [Users] Setting UUID
- Original Message - > From: "Itamar Heim" > To: "Livnat Peer" > Cc: users@ovirt.org > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:43:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] Setting UUID > > On 02/18/2012 11:15 PM, Livnat Peer wrote: > > On 18/02/12 22:33, Nathan Stratton wrote: > >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Livnat Peer wrote: > >> > >>> How about setting the VM name instead of UUID? It won't update > >>> permissions automatically though. > >> > >> Not sure I follow, VM name is good, but there are all sorts of > >> things > >> that care about UUID changing. > > > > off the top my head I can think of > > - permissions > > - events > > - tags > > - quota > > > > Permission and Quota can be handled manually the other two won't > > point > > to 'new' VM. > > > >> That is why we are looking for the > >> ability to set it. Today it looks like all UUIDs are random, and I > >> assume that a UUID needs to be unique, but how hard would it be to > >> be > >> able to specify a UUID? Libvirt allows this to be done and we do > >> it all > >> the time in our XML kvm files. > > > > Changing VM id does not sound like a complicated feature, when > > designing > > such a feature need to think of what are the impact on the history > > DB > > and events in the audit log (if such id was in use before). > > Nathan - it would be good to start by explaining if you care about > the > UUID as the engine sees it, or as devices and applications see it in > the > guest. > I'm guessing you care about the guest. > to do what you want, would rquire decoupling the uuid as used by > engine > to identify the guest, from the one vdsm exposes to the guest. > today the entire chain (including libvirt) uses the same uuid. That was my first reaction when reading that: "Not sure that you want to break that, it will require more mapping later. Assume an external monitoring tool the collects stats, if the VM has the same hardware UUID as the engine uses it will be easier to correlate the data separately from a guest agent and from the history DB." But then I've started to think that in some DR scenarios where both VMs (backup and source) are on the same engine but different clusters/sites. I think that an option to manually set the UUID of a VM is a must. So a better option would be to have HW UUID field in the VM properties where like for MACs you'll have the option to generate automatically or set manually. This mapping must be managed by the engine for use cases as I've mentioned above. > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Fwd: POM files missing
On 02/16/2012 03:43 PM, sebastiaocl...@netscape.net wrote: -Original Message- From: sebastiaocleto To: iheim Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 5:56 pm Subject: Re: [Users] POM files missing Thank you for your prompt response. Already tried those commands, but with no success, errors are repeated. I do have started again with a jboss installed from zip file, maybe it work ok. I do have observed too, that pom.xml files do reference a variables like ${commons-collections}, that don't was initialized and, consequently, the commands *mvn clean install -Pdep,setup* can't find the files that they need. Are there some configuration file that I can initialize those variables? you are building at root folder, right? -Pdep doesn't work with clean. it is supposed to deploy the EAR you built the previous step iirc. Thank you. Sebastião Cleto. can you try to rule out broken unitests failing you, rather than environment? -Original Message- From: Itamar Heim mailto:ih...@redhat.com>> To: sebastiaocleto mailto:sebastiaocl...@netscape.net>> Cc: users mailto:users@ovirt.org>> Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 2:28 pm Subject: Re: [Users] POM files missing On 02/15/2012 06:06 PM,sebastiaocl...@netscape.net wrote: Hi! I read the message from *Itamar Heim*respondingto *Thomas Broda*about the POM missing files, writing in December 05, 2011, but I could not found those files, in any sub directories under my $OVIRT_HOME, after the previous command: mvn clean install -Pgwt-user,gwt-admin can you try to rule out broken unitests failing you, rather than environment? mvn clean install -Pgwt-user,gwt-admin -DskipTests Just one error is reported after: *Results : Failed tests: testformatValueWithTime(org.ovirt.engine.core.searchbackend.AuditLogConditionFieldAutoCompleterTest) Tests run: 30, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0* I'm trying to build ovirt-engine under Debian Squeeze 6.0.4. Hereafter my settings.xml: http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"; xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/settings-1.0.0.xsd";> oVirtEnvSettings oVirtEnvSettings /etc/jbossas5 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk always Thanks a lot. Sebastião Cleto. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users