Re: [Users] Statistics of virtual machines

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

 02/20/2012 12:01 AM, зоррыч wrote:

Hi.

I useScientific linux 6.2on the nodes.
The problem is thatthe field "Ip Address"and thememoryis alwaysempty
(memori.png)
Why not?

vdsmnot support scientific linux, but I editedthe
file/etc/redhat-release on Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.2
(Santiago)for a successful installation.
Howvdsm % loaddetermines thememoryaddressand unvirtual machine?


you need to install the ovirt-guest-agent on the guest for these.
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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/20/2012 09:12 AM, Livnat Peer wrote:

On 19/02/12 19:21, Brent Bolin wrote:

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck  wrote:

On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote:

Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be
suggested.


Hi Brent,
ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations).
This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the
engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the
engine core requires many packages.

If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then
we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There
are things that need to be taken care of such as-
- Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which
is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process
of the host..


We are adding a flag (host property) to avoid host reboot at the end of
host installation.
This will be available soon and we are thinking to expose it only
through the API (not in the UI).


I think there are two different reboot's being discussed here:
1. reboot at end of an ovirt-node installation by ovirt node 
installation process (anaconda?)
2. reboot at end of configuring a full blown host (i.e., pre installed 
fedora), by ovirt-engine.


I'm assuming perry was talking on #1.
doron is talking on #2, since all-in-one is not relevant at this point 
for #1.

2. reb
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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Oved Ourfalli
Hey,

More information on the domain infrastructure we have can be found in:
http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/DomainInfrastructure
(I might update it more soon, but it can give you a basic view of how the 
domain management in oVirt is working, and what do you need to update in order 
to support a new ldap provider).

Oved

- Original Message -
> From: "Itamar Heim" 
> To: "Nathan Stratton" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:14:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] LDAP
> 
> On 02/19/2012 11:11 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote:
> >
> >> the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS.
> >> if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could
> >> try
> >> hacking the code to add support for it.
> >
> > Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in
> > the
> > family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : )
> 
> please remember you need 389ds with kerberos support.
> 
> gluster is in the works...
> see:
> http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/AddingGlusterSupportToOvirt
> 
> >
> > Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work.
> >
> >> <>
> > Nathan Stratton CTO, BlinkMind, Inc.
> > nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com
> > http://www.robotics.net http://www.blinkmind.com
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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Livnat Peer
On 19/02/12 19:21, Brent Bolin wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck  wrote:
>> On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote:
>>> Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be
>>> suggested.
>>
>> Hi Brent,
>> ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some 
>> configurations).
>> This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the
>> engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the
>> engine core requires many packages.
>>
>> If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then
>> we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There
>> are things that need to be taken care of such as-
>> - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which
>> is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process
>> of the host..

We are adding a flag (host property) to avoid host reboot at the end of
host installation.
This will be available soon and we are thinking to expose it only
through the API (not in the UI).


>> - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any 
>> circumstances,
>> in order to protect the engine core.
>> - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So 
>> here again
>> we need to be careful.
>>
>> To conclude,
>> it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and 
>> engine-core.
>> However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are 
>> thoughts
>> and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time.
>> --
>>
>> /d
>>
>> “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly 
>> get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to 
>> the Galaxy
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I
> think the technology is going.  Very interested in the GUI management
> and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows
> client(vSphere).
> 
> The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen.  stdout
> errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt.
>  Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
> success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
> to a known value.
> 
> Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the
> install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO.  Doing a minimal
> install.
> 
> Was able to bring up the mgmt UI.  Saw exactly what your talking about
> requiring a reboot when adding a node host.  Wasn't sure if that's the
> way it's suppose to work or not.  Kinda like the surgeon working on
> his own hands!.  Don't think the node registration fully installed
> itself because it re-booty up'ed itself.
> 
> Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried.  Example: using
> loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address.  Not sure if the node
> host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... .
> 
> Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know.
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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Livnat Peer
On 20/02/12 03:55, Perry Myers wrote:
> On 02/19/2012 07:17 PM, Brent Bolin wrote:
 and the install just not working without more then one attempt.
>>>
>>> Can you provide more details?  Otherwise we can't fix the issues.
>>
>> Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to
>> reboot.  Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting
>> "reinstall" fixes it other times not.  Makes me wonder if ovirt iso
>> install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants.
> 
> It should be able to.  Over the past months we've made numerous fixes
> for this.
> 
> However, if you have already installed oVirt Node to the disk, you need
> to select the 'Reinstall' option from the Grub menu (listed under
> Troubleshooting menu option in Grub)
> 
> So perhaps what you're seeing is Install vs. Reinstall.  In any case, we
> should handle this more gracefully or at least provide some add'l
> diagnostics to indicate the core reason why it failed to install.
> 
> If you could file a bug against the ovirt-node component in bugzilla, we
> can definitely try to make this more user friendly.
> 
  Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
 success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
 to a known value.
>>>
>>> Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt
>>> Engine onto oVirt Node.  The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes
>>> running the mgmt server there not possible.
>>
>> I don't understand this statement.  Are you talking about firewall
>> stateless connections?
> 
> The filesystem in oVirt Node is stateless.  If you attempt to install an
> rpm, when you reboot the changes are lost.  The entire filesystem is in
> RAM aside from a few select configuration files that are manually
> persisted to a 5MB config partition on disk.
> 
>>> If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt
>>> controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and
>>> put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that.
>>>
>>> The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not
>>> a bug, or a sign of instability.  It's simply not what oVirt Node was
>>> designed for.
>>
>> I understand this.  However in these days of my old age I don't run
>> half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to
>> use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment.  Right now I
>> accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager
> 
> Right.  We're not suggesting that you can't use oVirt in this way.  You
> should absolutely be able to use a single physical host running Fedora
> 16 and on that host run both the oVirt Engine as well as vdsm, so that
> you can have an 'oVirt in a single box' setup.
> 
> All we were saying here is that you can't use oVirt Node specifically to
> do the above, since it's a livecd with a stateless filesystem and
> contains 'just enough OS' to run virtual machines, and no where near
> enough OS to run a mgmt server.
> 
> Now, what should be possible... is to run oVirt Node and run on that
> node a single VM that is not managed by oVirt Engine, and run the engine
> inside that VM.  However in order to do this, you'd need to get past a
> chicken-egg issue with starting a VM on oVirt Node prior to it being
> registered with the oVirt Engine.
> 
> I wonder if we should expose a special command/config option in oVirt
> Node to allow it to run a single VM so that oVirt Engine can be
> colocated as a VM.  Anyone have any thoughts on that?
> 

I think worth opening a discussion on arch list.

>> The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using
>> native kvm, management server without the need of windows server,
>> vmotion type clustering etc...
> 
> All of that is accurate
> 
>> I am going to look over Doron notes.  Specifically the networking.
>>
>> Cheers... keep up the good work.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback and experimentation :)
> 
> Perry
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Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots

2012-02-19 Thread Livnat Peer
On 19/02/12 23:27, зоррыч wrote:
> Support a living export (similar to a live snapshot) will be added in the 
> future?
> 

We have a request to provide a backup API and it is on the roadmap not
sure how soon we'll handle that.

Another feature you can find relevant (and will be available soon) is
creating VM from snapshot.
Although far from perfect you can use live snapshot and then create VM
from that snapshot. (If you really want this on export domain you can
export the VM you created).

Livnat

> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Livnat Peer [mailto:lp...@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:56 PM
> To: зоррыч
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
> 
> On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote:
>>  Hi
>> Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is 
>> suspended?
>> Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the 
>> virtual machine.
>> This is the right behavior?
> 
> Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported.
> 
>> Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended 
>> virtual machine to.
>> I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient.
>>
> 
> Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables taking a 
> snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps.
> 
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Re: [Users] Virtual CPU

2012-02-19 Thread Shu Ming

On 2012-2-20 2:02, зоррыч wrote:


Hi

I set uptwonodesrunningovirt.
The configuration ofboth serversis identical (node.png).
when you create avirtual machine toasetting is per(vm.png). It 
runssuccessfully.
Ifthe setting"Number of CPUCres," set to3(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per 
Socket) (fail.png) - VMwill not start.ovirterror:
“Cannot run VM.There are no available running Hosts with enough cores 
in VM's Cluster.”

Why not?

Do I understand correctlythat the value of(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per 
Socket)means 3virtualCPU onaphysicalprocessor corenodes?
Number of CPUCres: 2 (2Socket (s),1Core (s) per Socket) -the virtual 
machineis startedsuccessfully

Number of CPUCres: 4 (2 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -error.
Number of CPUCres: 2 (1 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -the 
successful launch




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The number of active VMs is bigger than the physical cores in the host.

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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Perry Myers
On 02/19/2012 07:17 PM, Brent Bolin wrote:
>>> and the install just not working without more then one attempt.
>>
>> Can you provide more details?  Otherwise we can't fix the issues.
> 
> Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to
> reboot.  Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting
> "reinstall" fixes it other times not.  Makes me wonder if ovirt iso
> install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants.

It should be able to.  Over the past months we've made numerous fixes
for this.

However, if you have already installed oVirt Node to the disk, you need
to select the 'Reinstall' option from the Grub menu (listed under
Troubleshooting menu option in Grub)

So perhaps what you're seeing is Install vs. Reinstall.  In any case, we
should handle this more gracefully or at least provide some add'l
diagnostics to indicate the core reason why it failed to install.

If you could file a bug against the ovirt-node component in bugzilla, we
can definitely try to make this more user friendly.

>>>  Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
>>> success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
>>> to a known value.
>>
>> Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt
>> Engine onto oVirt Node.  The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes
>> running the mgmt server there not possible.
> 
> I don't understand this statement.  Are you talking about firewall
> stateless connections?

The filesystem in oVirt Node is stateless.  If you attempt to install an
rpm, when you reboot the changes are lost.  The entire filesystem is in
RAM aside from a few select configuration files that are manually
persisted to a 5MB config partition on disk.

>> If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt
>> controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and
>> put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that.
>>
>> The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not
>> a bug, or a sign of instability.  It's simply not what oVirt Node was
>> designed for.
> 
> I understand this.  However in these days of my old age I don't run
> half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to
> use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment.  Right now I
> accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager

Right.  We're not suggesting that you can't use oVirt in this way.  You
should absolutely be able to use a single physical host running Fedora
16 and on that host run both the oVirt Engine as well as vdsm, so that
you can have an 'oVirt in a single box' setup.

All we were saying here is that you can't use oVirt Node specifically to
do the above, since it's a livecd with a stateless filesystem and
contains 'just enough OS' to run virtual machines, and no where near
enough OS to run a mgmt server.

Now, what should be possible... is to run oVirt Node and run on that
node a single VM that is not managed by oVirt Engine, and run the engine
inside that VM.  However in order to do this, you'd need to get past a
chicken-egg issue with starting a VM on oVirt Node prior to it being
registered with the oVirt Engine.

I wonder if we should expose a special command/config option in oVirt
Node to allow it to run a single VM so that oVirt Engine can be
colocated as a VM.  Anyone have any thoughts on that?

> The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using
> native kvm, management server without the need of windows server,
> vmotion type clustering etc...

All of that is accurate

> I am going to look over Doron notes.  Specifically the networking.
> 
> Cheers... keep up the good work.

Thanks for the feedback and experimentation :)

Perry
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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Brent Bolin
Replies inserted into the message.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Perry Myers  wrote:
>> The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen.  stdout
>> errors
>
> I believe this was fixed in the latest ISO build, and fwiw it's
> completely cosmetic.
>
>> and the install just not working without more then one attempt.
>
> Can you provide more details?  Otherwise we can't fix the issues.

Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to
reboot.  Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting
"reinstall" fixes it other times not.  Makes me wonder if ovirt iso
install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants.

>
>>  Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
>> success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
>> to a known value.
>
> Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt
> Engine onto oVirt Node.  The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes
> running the mgmt server there not possible.

I don't understand this statement.  Are you talking about firewall
stateless connections?

>
> If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt
> controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and
> put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that.
>
> The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not
> a bug, or a sign of instability.  It's simply not what oVirt Node was
> designed for.

I understand this.  However in these days of my old age I don't run
half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to
use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment.  Right now I
accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager

The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using
native kvm, management server without the need of windows server,
vmotion type clustering etc...

I am going to look over Doron notes.  Specifically the networking.

Cheers... keep up the good work.

btb


>
> Perry
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Re: [Users] Virtual CPU

2012-02-19 Thread Andrew Cathrow


- Original Message -
> From: "зоррыч" 
> To: "Yaniv Kaul" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:34:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Virtual CPU
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You can explain in this case means that the field " Total Cores " and
> " CPU Sockets " in the menu to create a new virtual machine (
> cpu.png)?
> 
> 

Your virtual machine has 1 socket with a total of 2 cores.


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Yaniv Kaul [mailto:yk...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:29 PM
> To: зоррыч
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Virtual CPU
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/19/2012 08:02 PM, зоррыч wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I set up two nodes running ovirt .
> The configuration of both servers is identical ( node.png).
> when you create a virtual machine to a setting is per ( vm.png). It
> runs successfully.
> If the setting "Number of CPU Cres ," set to 3 (1 Socket (s), 3 Core
> (s) per Socket) ( fail.png) - VM will not start. ovirt error:
> “Cannot run VM. There are no available running Hosts with enough
> cores in VM's Cluster.”
> Why not?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You cannot run a VM with more sockets than the host's cores.
> Y.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do I understand correctly that the value of (1 Socket (s), 3 Core (s)
> per Socket) means 3 virtual CPU on a physical processor core nodes ?
> Number of CPU Cres : 2 (2 Socket (s), 1 Core (s) per Socket) - the
> virtual machine is started successfully
> Number of CPU Cres : 4 (2 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - error.
> Number of CPU Cres : 2 (1 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - the
> successful launch
> 
> 
> 
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[Users] Statistics of virtual machines

2012-02-19 Thread зоррыч
Hi.

I use Scientific linux 6.2 on the nodes.
The problem is that the field "Ip Address" and the memory is always empty
(memori.png)
Why not?

vdsm not support scientific linux, but I edited the file /etc/redhat-release
on Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.2 (Santiago) for a successful
installation.
How vdsm % load determines the memory address and un virtual machine?

Vdsm.log(node):

Thread-143582::DEBUG::2012-02-19 16:43:51,692::clientIF::59::vds::(wrapper)
return getVmStats with {'status': {'message': 'Done', 'code': 0},
'statsList': [{'status': 'Up', 'username': 'Unknown', 'memUsage': '0',
'acpiEnable': 'true', 'pid': '6344', 'displayIp': '10.2.20.8',
'displayPort': u'5900', 'session': 'Unknown', 'displaySecurePort': '-1',
'timeOffset': '28', 'pauseCode': 'NOERR', 'clientIp': '', 'kvmEnable':
'true', 'network': {u'vnet0': {'macAddr': u'00:1a:4a:a8:7a:0d', 'rxDropped':
'0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'txDropped': '0', 'txRate': '0.0', 'rxRate': '0.0',
'txErrors': '0', 'state': 'unknown', 'speed': '1000', 'name': u'vnet0'}},
'vmId': '0a3c7b86-b5f2-43b7-a4c1-4bbba10d46c6', 'monitorResponse': '0',
'cpuUser': '39.86', 'disks': {u'vda': {'readLatency': '1496993',
'apparentsize': '12058624', 'writeLatency': '104532640', 'imageID':
'c146b12f-ddb9-468f-b4ed-aca758df137a', 'flushLatency': '38107', 'readRate':
'1626746.53', 'truesize': '11939840', 'writeRate': '23148.73'}}, 'boot':
'c', 'statsAge': '1.03', 'cpuIdle': '60.14', 'elapsedTime': '62', 'vmType':
'kvm', 'cpuSys': '0.00', 'appsList': [], 'guestIPs': '', 'displayType':
'vnc', 'nice': ''}]}

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Re: [Users] Virtual CPU

2012-02-19 Thread зоррыч
You can explain in this case means that the field "Total Cores " and "CPU 
Sockets"  in the menu to create a new virtual machine (cpu.png)?

 

 

 

From: Yaniv Kaul [mailto:yk...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:29 PM
To: зоррыч
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Virtual CPU

 

On 02/19/2012 08:02 PM, зоррыч wrote: 

Hi

I set up two nodes running ovirt.
The configuration of both servers is identical (node.png).
when you create a virtual machine to a setting is per (vm.png). It runs 
successfully.
If the setting "Number of CPU Cres," set to 3 (1 Socket (s), 3 Core (s) per 
Socket) (fail.png) - VM will not start. ovirt error:
“Cannot run VM. There are no available running Hosts with enough cores in VM's 
Cluster.”
Why not?




You cannot run a VM with more sockets than the host's cores.
Y.





Do I understand correctly that the value of (1 Socket (s), 3 Core (s) per 
Socket) means 3 virtual CPU on a physical processor core nodes?
Number of CPU Cres: 2 (2 Socket (s), 1 Core (s) per Socket) - the virtual 
machine is started successfully
Number of CPU Cres: 4 (2 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - error.
Number of CPU Cres: 2 (1 Socket (s), 2 Core (s) per Socket) - the successful 
launch






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Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots

2012-02-19 Thread зоррыч
Support a living export (similar to a live snapshot) will be added in the 
future?



-Original Message-
From: Livnat Peer [mailto:lp...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:56 PM
To: зоррыч
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots

On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote:
>  Hi
> Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is 
> suspended?
> Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the 
> virtual machine.
> This is the right behavior?

Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported.

> Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended 
> virtual machine to.
> I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient.
> 

Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables taking a 
snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps.

Livnat

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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/19/2012 11:11 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote:


the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS.
if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try
hacking the code to add support for it.


Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in the
family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : )


please remember you need 389ds with kerberos support.

gluster is in the works...
see:
http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/AddingGlusterSupportToOvirt



Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work.


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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote:


the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS.
if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try hacking 
the code to add support for it.


Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in the 
family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : )


Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work.


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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/19/2012 10:36 PM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:

On 02/19/2012 10:30 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote:


Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support
OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a
way to proceed.
I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing.


Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server?

Sorry Nathan, we do not support this one as well.


the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS.
if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try 
hacking the code to add support for it.

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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Perry Myers
> The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen.  stdout
> errors 

I believe this was fixed in the latest ISO build, and fwiw it's
completely cosmetic.

> and the install just not working without more then one attempt.

Can you provide more details?  Otherwise we can't fix the issues.

>  Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
> success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
> to a known value.

Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt
Engine onto oVirt Node.  The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes
running the mgmt server there not possible.

If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt
controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and
put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that.

The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not
a bug, or a sign of instability.  It's simply not what oVirt Node was
designed for.

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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Yair Zaslavsky
On 02/19/2012 10:30 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support
>> OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a
>> way to proceed.
>> I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing.
> 
> Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server?
Sorry Nathan, we do not support this one as well.

Yair

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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote:


Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet 
- we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed.
I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing.


Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server?


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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Yaniv Kaul
- Original Message -
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
> 
> > I'd try with wireshark to capture ports 88, 53 and 389 (something
> > like '-s
> > 1500 -w /tmp/file.pcap port 53 or port 88 or port 389' if you are
> > using
> > tcpdump).
> 
> http://share.robotics.net/ldap.pcap
> 
> > Then check that indeed the responses from DNS correlate well with
> > what we are
> > trying to connect to.
> 
> Yep, its hitting the LDAP server, just not getting what it wants
> back. Is
> it possible that it does not like the "" and that it should be
> ""?
> 
> I.E. If I do:
> 
> [root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b
> "" +
> # extended LDIF
> #
> # LDAPv3
> # base <> with scope baseObject
> # filter: (objectclass=*)
> # requesting: +
> #
> 
> #
> dn:
> structuralObjectClass: OpenLDAProotDSE

Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet 
- we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed.
I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing.
Y.

> configContext: cn=config
> namingContexts: dc=blinkmind,dc=net
> supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.9.1.1
> supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.18
> supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.2
> supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.10.1
> supportedControl: 1.2.840.113556.1.4.319
> supportedControl: 1.2.826.0.1.3344810.2.3
> supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.2
> supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.1
> supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.12
> supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.1
> supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.3
> supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.1.8
> supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.1.14
> supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.1
> supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.2
> supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.3
> supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.4
> supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.5
> supportedLDAPVersion: 3
> entryDN:
> subschemaSubentry: cn=Subschema
> 
> # search result
> search: 2
> result: 0 Success
> 
> # numResponses: 2
> # numEntries: 1
> 
> But if I do:
> 
> [root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b
> "" +
> # extended LDIF
> #
> # LDAPv3
> # base <> with scope baseObject
> # filter: (objectclass=*)
> # requesting: +
> #
> 
> # search result
> search: 2
> result: 34 Invalid DN syntax
> text: invalid DN
> 
> # numResponses: 1
> 
> 
> 
> > (BTW, there was a regression in the code not so long ago in that
> > area - are
> > you using latest code?).
> 
> 3.0.0_0001-1.6.fc16
> 
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> blinkmind.com
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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote:

I'd try with wireshark to capture ports 88, 53 and 389 (something like '-s 
1500 -w /tmp/file.pcap port 53 or port 88 or port 389' if you are using 
tcpdump).


http://share.robotics.net/ldap.pcap

Then check that indeed the responses from DNS correlate well with what we are 
trying to connect to.


Yep, its hitting the LDAP server, just not getting what it wants back. Is 
it possible that it does not like the "" and that it should be ""?


I.E. If I do:

[root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b "" +
# extended LDIF
#
# LDAPv3
# base <> with scope baseObject
# filter: (objectclass=*)
# requesting: +
#

#
dn:
structuralObjectClass: OpenLDAProotDSE
configContext: cn=config
namingContexts: dc=blinkmind,dc=net
supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.9.1.1
supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.18
supportedControl: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.4.2
supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.10.1
supportedControl: 1.2.840.113556.1.4.319
supportedControl: 1.2.826.0.1.3344810.2.3
supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.2
supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.13.1
supportedControl: 1.3.6.1.1.12
supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.1
supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.3
supportedExtension: 1.3.6.1.1.8
supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.1.14
supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.1
supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.2
supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.3
supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.4
supportedFeatures: 1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.5.5
supportedLDAPVersion: 3
entryDN:
subschemaSubentry: cn=Subschema

# search result
search: 2
result: 0 Success

# numResponses: 2
# numEntries: 1

But if I do:

[root@ovirt-engine ~]# ldapsearch -H ldap://10.10.0.105 -x -s base -b 
"" +

# extended LDIF
#
# LDAPv3
# base <> with scope baseObject
# filter: (objectclass=*)
# requesting: +
#

# search result
search: 2
result: 34 Invalid DN syntax
text: invalid DN

# numResponses: 1



(BTW, there was a regression in the code not so long ago in that area - are 
you using latest code?).


3.0.0_0001-1.6.fc16


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Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots

2012-02-19 Thread Livnat Peer
On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote:
>  Hi
> Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is 
> suspended?
> Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the 
> virtual machine.
> This is the right behavior?

Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported.

> Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended 
> virtual machine to.
> I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient.
> 

Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables
taking a snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps.

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Re: [Users] Virtual CPU

2012-02-19 Thread Yaniv Kaul

On 02/19/2012 08:02 PM, зоррыч wrote:


Hi

I set uptwonodesrunningovirt.
The configuration ofboth serversis identical (node.png).
when you create avirtual machine toasetting is per(vm.png). It 
runssuccessfully.
Ifthe setting"Number of CPUCres," set to3(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per 
Socket) (fail.png) - VMwill not start.ovirterror:
“Cannot run VM.There are no available running Hosts with enough cores 
in VM's Cluster.”

Why not?



You cannot run a VM with more sockets than the host's cores.
Y.



Do I understand correctlythat the value of(1Socket (s),3Core (s) per 
Socket)means 3virtualCPU onaphysicalprocessor corenodes?
Number of CPUCres: 2 (2Socket (s),1Core (s) per Socket) -the virtual 
machineis startedsuccessfully

Number of CPUCres: 4 (2 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -error.
Number of CPUCres: 2 (1 Socket (s),2Core (s) per Socket) -the 
successful launch




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Re: [Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Yaniv Kaul

On 02/19/2012 09:02 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:


I am working on getting ovirt working with our LDAP enviornment and 
have run into a few issues. Based on my googling my understanding is 
that ovirt should query DNS for a ldap SRV record. However based on my 
wireshark captures I never see such a request.


I ended up installing phpPgAdmin and found the vdc_options table and 
someting called DomainName. I figured that was a good place to start 
so I put our domain there and now I see the DNS SRV queries.


I'd try with wireshark to capture ports 88, 53 and 389 (something like 
'-s 1500 -w /tmp/file.pcap port 53 or port 88 or port 389' if you are 
using tcpdump).
Then check that indeed the responses from DNS correlate well with what 
we are trying to connect to.
(BTW, there was a regression in the code not so long ago in that area - 
are you using latest code?).

Y.



In the logs I see:

2012-02-19 12:58:26,532 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask] (pool-5-thread-47) 
Couldnt deduce provider type for domain blinkmind.net
2012-02-19 12:58:26,533 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed ldap search server 
LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389 due to 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: 
Failed to get rootDSE record for server 
LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389. We should try the next 
server: 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: 
Failed to get rootDSE record for server 
LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask.call(GetRootDSETask.java:68) 
[engine-bll.jar:]
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:101) 
[engine-bll.jar:]
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:97) 
[engine-bll.jar:]
at 
java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.threadpool.ThreadPoolUtil$InternalWrapperRunnable.run(ThreadPoolUtil.java:57) 
[utils-3.0.0-0001.jar:]
at 
java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471) [:1.6.0_22] 

at 
java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1110) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:603) 
[:1.6.0_22]

at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679) [:1.6.0_22]

2012-02-19 12:58:26,537 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.LdapAuthenticateUserCommand] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed authenticating user: nathan to domain 
blinkmind.net. Ldap Query Type is getUserByName
2012-02-19 12:58:26,538 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR : 
nathan
2012-02-19 12:58:26,539 WARN  
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) CanDoAction of action LoginAdminUser failed. 
Reasons:USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR


All our linux boxes use the same LDAP server without issue, so I know 
that part is working.


P.S. What is LDAPSecurityAuthentication (option_id 2) and what should 
it be set to?





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[Users] LDAP

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton


I am working on getting ovirt working with our LDAP enviornment and have 
run into a few issues. Based on my googling my understanding is that ovirt 
should query DNS for a ldap SRV record. However based on my wireshark 
captures I never see such a request.


I ended up installing phpPgAdmin and found the vdc_options table and 
someting called DomainName. I figured that was a good place to start so I 
put our domain there and now I see the DNS SRV queries.


In the logs I see:

2012-02-19 12:58:26,532 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask] (pool-5-thread-47) Couldnt 
deduce provider type for domain blinkmind.net
2012-02-19 12:58:26,533 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher] (http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) 
Failed ldap search server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389 due to 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: Failed to 
get rootDSE record for server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389. We 
should try the next server: 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.EngineDirectoryServiceException: Failed to 
get rootDSE record for server LDAP://ldap-master.dal.blinkmind.net:389
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.GetRootDSETask.call(GetRootDSETask.java:68) 
[engine-bll.jar:]
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:101)
 [engine-bll.jar:]
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.DirectorySearcher$1.call(DirectorySearcher.java:97)
 [engine-bll.jar:]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) [:1.6.0_22]
at 
org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.threadpool.ThreadPoolUtil$InternalWrapperRunnable.run(ThreadPoolUtil.java:57)
 [utils-3.0.0-0001.jar:]
at 
java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166) [:1.6.0_22]
at 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1110) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:603) 
[:1.6.0_22]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679) [:1.6.0_22]

2012-02-19 12:58:26,537 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.adbroker.LdapAuthenticateUserCommand] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) Failed authenticating user: nathan to domain 
blinkmind.net. Ldap Query Type is getUserByName
2012-02-19 12:58:26,538 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR : nathan
2012-02-19 12:58:26,539 WARN  [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginAdminUserCommand] 
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-10) CanDoAction of action LoginAdminUser failed. 
Reasons:USER_FAILED_TO_AUTHENTICATE_CONNECTION_ERROR

All our linux boxes use the same LDAP server without issue, so I know that 
part is working.


P.S. What is LDAPSecurityAuthentication (option_id 2) and what should it 
be set to?





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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Brent Bolin wrote:


I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I
think the technology is going.  Very interested in the GUI management
and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows
client(vSphere).

The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen.  stdout
errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt.
Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
to a known value.


Hmm, have not tried the ISO because we also run other things on the host 
such as gluster. Its just easier for us to start from a minimal F16 
install.



Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the
install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO.  Doing a minimal
install.

Was able to bring up the mgmt UI.  Saw exactly what your talking about
requiring a reboot when adding a node host.  Wasn't sure if that's the
way it's suppose to work or not.  Kinda like the surgeon working on
his own hands!.  Don't think the node registration fully installed
itself because it re-booty up'ed itself.


Once things come back up you should be able to restart disarmed and have it 
talked to the engine.



Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried.  Example: using
loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address.  Not sure if the node
host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... .


There are a LOT of different ways to set it up, I have dual nicks so I bond 
them together with:


[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-bond0
DEVICE=bond0
MTU=9000
BOOTPROTO=no
ONBOOT=yes
BONDING_OPTS="mode=4 miimon=100"
BRIDGE=ovirtmgmt

[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
MTU=9000
ONBOOT=yes
MASTER=bond0
SLAVE=yes

[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth1
DEVICE=eth1
MTU=9000
ONBOOT=yes
MASTER=bond0
SLAVE=yes

I don't really like the requirement for ovirtmgmt, since we already have a 
private bridge I wish I could use that, but since overt requires it...


[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-ovirtmgmt
DEVICE=ovirtmgmt
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=static
IPADDR=10.13.1.101
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
GATEWAY=10.13.1.1
TYPE=Bridge

Ovirt will use that IP for things like spice, so your going to need to 
make sure it is reachable at least locally.


I then have two vlans, VLAN2 for private and VLAN8 for public IP traffic 
from my VMs.


[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-bond0.2
DEVICE=bond0.2
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
VLAN=yes
BRIDGE=private

[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-bond0.8
DEVICE=bond0.8
BOOTPROTO=none
ONBOOT=yes
VLAN=yes
BRIDGE=public

[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-private
DEVICE=private
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=none
TYPE=Bridge

[root@virt1 network-scripts]# more ifcfg-public
DEVICE=public
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=none
TYPE=Bridge

A setup like the above is not required, just works for us.


Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know.


I have been running KVM/OpenVZ/Xen for years, but I am very new (read a 
few weeks) to ovirt. I like it much better then our manual / scrips we use 
in production today and hope to have it in production as soon as I figure 
out a few more things.



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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Brent Bolin wrote:


Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be
suggested.


Its possible, I tried it and it does work, but I ended up ditching the 
idea because I wanted all my node boxes to be identical. What I am working 
on now is getting ovirt-engine to work as a guest on a node.


First setup ovirt on a stand alone box
Setup everything the way you want it
Create a overt-engine VM
Shutdown the first ovirt-engine (the guest ovirt-engine will stay up)
Import the DB into the VM engine
Start the ovirt-engine on the VM

If you need to start a cold cluster you fire up all your nodes and then 
manually start ovirt-engine VM on one of the nodes.



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Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM

2012-02-19 Thread Nathan Stratton

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Shu Ming wrote:


On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote:


Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a 
guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered 
up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to 
fire up the ovirt engine on a node.


Does the guest(VM)  hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the ovirt-engine? 
If It does,  it looks like a logical loop here.  Say,  if the ovirt-engine 
stop the hosting VM,  the ovirt-engine will also be stopped.


There are issues to be worked out, but I think it makes more sense then 
dedicated hardware for the ovirt-engine.



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[Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots

2012-02-19 Thread зоррыч
 Hi
Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is suspended?
Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the 
virtual machine.
This is the right behavior?
Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended 
virtual machine to.
I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient.

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Re: [Users] migration failed

2012-02-19 Thread зоррыч
Thank you!
There was a wrong host on one of the nodes in  /etc/hostname 




-Original Message-
From: Nathan Stratton [mailto:nat...@robotics.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:27 PM
To: ??
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] migration failed

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, ?? wrote:

> How do I fix it?
> I checked the host name on both nodes and found that they resolves 
> correctly (there is an entry in /etc/hostname).
> In DNS hostname is not registered (!)

Have you tried entering them all in /etc/hosts?

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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Brent Bolin
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck  wrote:
> On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote:
>> Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be
>> suggested.
>
> Hi Brent,
> ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations).
> This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the
> engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the
> engine core requires many packages.
>
> If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then
> we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There
> are things that need to be taken care of such as-
> - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which
> is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process
> of the host..
> - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any 
> circumstances,
> in order to protect the engine core.
> - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So 
> here again
> we need to be careful.
>
> To conclude,
> it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and 
> engine-core.
> However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are 
> thoughts
> and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time.
> --
>
> /d
>
> “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly 
> get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to 
> the Galaxy

Thanks for your reply.

I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I
think the technology is going.  Very interested in the GUI management
and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows
client(vSphere).

The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen.  stdout
errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt.
 Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without
success.  Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password
to a known value.

Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the
install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO.  Doing a minimal
install.

Was able to bring up the mgmt UI.  Saw exactly what your talking about
requiring a reboot when adding a node host.  Wasn't sure if that's the
way it's suppose to work or not.  Kinda like the surgeon working on
his own hands!.  Don't think the node registration fully installed
itself because it re-booty up'ed itself.

Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried.  Example: using
loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address.  Not sure if the node
host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... .

Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know.
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Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Doron Fediuck
On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote:
> Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be
> suggested.

Hi Brent,
ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations).
This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the
engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the
engine core requires many packages.

If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then
we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There
are things that need to be taken care of such as-
- Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which
is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process
of the host..
- Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any 
circumstances,
in order to protect the engine core.
- Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So here 
again
we need to be careful.

To conclude,
it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and engine-core.
However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are thoughts
and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time.
-- 

/d

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Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/19/2012 05:17 PM, Shu Ming wrote:

On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote:


Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine
as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster
is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized
instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node.


Does the guest(VM) hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the
ovirt-engine? If It does, it looks like a logical loop here. Say, if the
ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM, the ovirt-engine will also be stopped.


could be, but still not.
and yes, would need to be self-aware to recognize the loop.
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Re: [Users] [vdsm] Restoring Virtual Machines

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/19/2012 04:45 PM, Igor Lvovsky wrote:



-Original Message-
From: vdsm-devel-boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org [mailto:vdsm-devel-
boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:13 PM
To: ??
Cc: users@ovirt.org; vdsm-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org
Subject: Re: [vdsm] [Users] Restoring Virtual Machines

On 02/17/2012 11:51 AM, ?? wrote:

Can I use the "data of storage domain", created in the old ovirt to
import
virtual machines in a new ovirt?
It is possible to convert the "data of storage domain" in "export
domain"
manually? To mount it as a "Export domain" in a new overt


No, it's impossible. The export domain has specific layout (similar to
layout of master domain)
  that contains for example VM's ovf files.
In theory you can 'hijack' master domain, but the flow is very complicated
and not recommended.


if someone has only a single master storage domain, why can't they make 
it an export domain?






cc-ing vdsm-devel on how to change the metadata of the SD to make it an
export domain, instead of a data domain (which is pretty arbitrary iirc).





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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:36 AM
To: ??
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Restoring Virtual Machines

On 02/15/2012 11:43 AM, ?? wrote:

hi, in the process of testing ovirt some questions:
1. If you are upgrading ovirt we erased the database postgress,
whether it is possible to restore the list of virtual machines without
having to restore the database from the dump? Take a virtual machine
working on the nodes.


not easily right now.
easiest (other than restore) would probably be to make the storage
domain
into an export domain, and import from it in the new engine.


2. Is it possible to manage virtual machines through the cli?


yes.


3. Is it possible to arrange a backup of virtual machines without
interruption of its performance?


I don't think there is a simple answer to this question.
can you explain what is the exact concern?

thanks,
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM

2012-02-19 Thread Shu Ming

On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote:


Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine 
as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster 
is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized 
instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node.


Does the guest(VM)  hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the 
ovirt-engine?  If It does,  it looks like a logical loop here.  Say,  if 
the ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM,  the ovirt-engine will also be 
stopped.




P.S. Are there any plans for redundant ovirt engines in the works?


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[Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?

2012-02-19 Thread Brent Bolin
Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be
suggested.
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Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/18/2012 08:16 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:


Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as
a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is
powered up for the first time it would require some specialized
instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node.

P.S. Are there any plans for redundant ovirt engines in the works?


it is something on the roadmap, but nothing concrete yet other than run 
it under a clustering service.

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Re: [Users] ANNOUNCE: ovirt-engine-cli 2.0

2012-02-19 Thread Ofer Schreiber
SRPMS and new RPMS/tarballs are now available at ovirt.org.

- Original Message -
> Hi.
> SRС RPM packages are not found
> 
> [root@noc-2-synt ~]# yum install ovirt-engine-cli
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, security
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * elrepo: jur-linux.org
>  * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-debuginfo: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-fastbugs: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-testing: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-testing-source: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
> Setting up Install Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 0:2.0-1.fc16 will be installed
> --> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package:
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> --> Processing Dependency: ovirt-engine-sdk >= 1.5 for package:
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> --> Processing Dependency: python-ply for package:
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> --> Processing Dependency: python-setuptools for package:
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 0:2.0-1.fc16 will be installed
> --> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package:
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> --> Processing Dependency: python-ply for package:
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> ---> Package ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 0:1.5-1.fc16 will be installed
> --> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package:
> ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1.fc16.noarch
> ---> Package python-setuptools.noarch 0:0.6.10-3.el6 will be
> installed
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine)
>Requires: python(abi) = 2.7
>Installed: python-2.6.6-29.el6.x86_64 (@sl/6.1)
>python(abi) = 2.6
> Error: Package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine)
>Requires: python-ply
> Error: Package: ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine)
>Requires: python(abi) = 2.7
>Installed: python-2.6.6-29.el6.x86_64 (@sl/6.1)
>python(abi) = 2.6
>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [root@noc-2-synt ~]# yumdownloader --source ovirt-engine-cli
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * elrepo: jur-linux.org
>  * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-debuginfo: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-fastbugs: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-testing: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
>  * sl-testing-source: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
> Enabling sl-source repository
> No source RPM found for ovirt-engine-cli-1.2-1.fc16.x86_64
> No source RPM found for ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> 
> [root@noc-2-synt ~]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/ovirt-engine.repo
> [ovirt-engine]
> name=ovirt-engine
> baseurl=http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=0
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
> Behalf Of
> Michael Pasternak
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:55 PM
> To: users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] ANNOUNCE: ovirt-engine-cli 2.0
> 
> 
> Please use second release (it's fixes typo in 'create vm' template
> argument)
> 
> ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-2.fc16.noarch.rpm
> ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-2.fc16.noarch.rpm
> 
> On 02/16/2012 01:27 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I'm happy to announce the general oVirt CLI 2.0 availability,
> > 
> > New features:
> > 
> > 
> > - New application core.
> > - Added support for commands history stack.
> > - Added support for context aware auto-completion.
> > - Dynamic ovirt-engine-sdk metadata discovering.
> > - Dynamic help for each command and resource.
> > - Removed restriction for specific version of ovirt-engine-sdk
> >   from 1.5 and further ovirt-engine-cli can work with any
> >   version of sdk (unless sdk introduced cli incompatible change).
> > - same naming convention in ovirt-engine-cli and ovirt-engine-sdk.
> > - reformatted output to support reduced and expended modes in
> >   'list' in 'show' commands by --show-all argument.
> > - new object fields formatting.
> > - added support for linux bash commands from the cli.
> > - shell redirection support.
> > - added SSL connection capabilities to 'connect' command.
> > - added API version discovering mechanism.
> > 
> > RPMs
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1
> > .fc16.noarch.rpm
> > http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1
> > .fc16.noarch.rpm
> > 
> > 
> > Misc
> > 
> > 
> > - use 'help' for syntax/arguments questions.
> > - use  completion for option variables as they get converted
> > to
> >   command line options with different syntax.
> > - cli still requires supe

Re: [Users] Setting UUID

2012-02-19 Thread Simon Grinberg


- Original Message -
> From: "Itamar Heim" 
> To: "Livnat Peer" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:43:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Setting UUID
> 
> On 02/18/2012 11:15 PM, Livnat Peer wrote:
> > On 18/02/12 22:33, Nathan Stratton wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Livnat Peer wrote:
> >>
> >>> How about setting the VM name instead of UUID? It won't update
> >>> permissions automatically though.
> >>
> >> Not sure I follow, VM name is good, but there are all sorts of
> >> things
> >> that care about UUID changing.
> >
> > off the top my head I can think of
> > - permissions
> > - events
> > - tags
> > - quota
> >
> > Permission and Quota can be handled manually the other two won't
> > point
> > to 'new' VM.
> >
> >> That is why we are looking for the
> >> ability to set it. Today it looks like all UUIDs are random, and I
> >> assume that a UUID needs to be unique, but how hard would it be to
> >> be
> >> able to specify a UUID? Libvirt allows this to be done and we do
> >> it all
> >> the time in our XML kvm files.
> >
> > Changing VM id does not sound like a complicated feature, when
> > designing
> > such a feature need to think of what are the impact on the history
> > DB
> > and events in the audit log (if such id was in use before).
> 
> Nathan - it would be good to start by explaining if you care about
> the
> UUID as the engine sees it, or as devices and applications see it in
> the
> guest.
> I'm guessing you care about the guest.
> to do what you want, would rquire decoupling the uuid as used by
> engine
> to identify the guest, from the one vdsm exposes to the guest.
> today the entire chain (including libvirt) uses the same uuid.

That was my first reaction when reading that:
"Not sure that you want to break that, it will require more mapping later.
Assume an external monitoring tool the collects stats, if the VM has the same 
hardware UUID as the engine uses it will be easier to correlate the data 
separately from a guest agent and from the history DB."

But then I've started to think that in some DR scenarios where both VMs (backup 
and source) are on the same engine but different clusters/sites. I think that 
an option to manually set the UUID of a VM is a must. So a better option would 
be to have HW UUID field in the VM properties where like for MACs you'll have 
the option to generate automatically or set manually. This mapping must be 
managed by the engine for use cases as I've mentioned above.




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Re: [Users] Fwd: POM files missing

2012-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/16/2012 03:43 PM, sebastiaocl...@netscape.net wrote:




-Original Message-
From: sebastiaocleto 
To: iheim 
Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Users] POM files missing

Thank you for your prompt response.
Already tried those commands, but with no success, errors are repeated.

I do have started again with a jboss installed from zip file, maybe it
work ok.

I do have observed too, that pom.xml files do reference a variables like
${commons-collections}, that don't was initialized and, consequently,
the commands *mvn clean install -Pdep,setup* can't find the files that
they need.
Are there some configuration file that I can initialize those variables?


you are building at root folder, right?
-Pdep doesn't work with clean. it is supposed to deploy the EAR you 
built the previous step iirc.




Thank you.

Sebastião Cleto.


can you try to rule out broken unitests failing you, rather than



environment?






-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim mailto:ih...@redhat.com>>
To: sebastiaocleto mailto:sebastiaocl...@netscape.net>>
Cc: users mailto:users@ovirt.org>>
Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Users] POM files missing

On 02/15/2012 06:06 PM,sebastiaocl...@netscape.net  wrote:




 Hi!





 I read the message from *Itamar Heim*respondingto *Thomas Broda*about





 the POM missing files, writing in December 05, 2011, but I could not





 found those files, in any sub directories under my $OVIRT_HOME, after





 the previous command:











 mvn clean install -Pgwt-user,gwt-admin








can you try to rule out broken unitests failing you, rather than



environment?



mvn clean install -Pgwt-user,gwt-admin -DskipTests














 Just one error is reported after:











 *Results :











 Failed tests:





 
testformatValueWithTime(org.ovirt.engine.core.searchbackend.AuditLogConditionFieldAutoCompleterTest)











 Tests run: 30, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0*



































 I'm trying to build ovirt-engine under Debian Squeeze 6.0.4. Hereafter





 my settings.xml:











 http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0";





 xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";





 xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0





 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/settings-1.0.0.xsd";>











 











 





 oVirtEnvSettings





 











 





 





 oVirtEnvSettings





 





 /etc/jbossas5





 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk





 always





 





 





 





 











 Thanks a lot.











 Sebastião Cleto.





























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