Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi, I know that now there's a doc in google drive for this, but I don't have write access so I post this here: I need to backup my vms that use direct-luns as disks and neither snapshot nor export do the job, so I propose at least one of those options to be implemented. Regards, ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
i whould also vote for equallogic support. or at least the possibility to set iscsi configuration to manual, which should include the possibility to disable the must use multipathd. not every iscsi san uses it... On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Wagner, Kai kai.wag...@it-novum.comwrote: Hi all, whats about Live Snapshot delete function? Its great to create live Snapshots, but for business critical vms its also nessesary to delete online snapshots. Greetz -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] Im Auftrag von Baptiste AGASSE Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. September 2013 17:58 An: Itamar Heim Cc: users@ovirt.org Betreff: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for this thread ! - ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup Have a nice day. Regards. --- Baptiste ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users it-novum GmbH i. A. Kai Wagner Consultant Tel: +49 (661) 103-762 Fax: +49 (661) 103-17762 kai.wag...@it-novum.com it-novum GmbH * Edelzeller Straße 44 * 36043 Fulda * http://www.it-novum.com Handelsregister Amtsgericht Fulda, HRB 1934 * Geschäftsführer: Michael Kienle Sitz der Gesellschaft: Fulda Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail ist vertraulich. Wenn Sie nicht der eigentliche Empfänger sein sollten, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender oder vernichten umgehend diese Mail. Jegliche unerlaubte Vervielfältigung oder Weiterleitung dieser Mail ist strengstens verboten. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or priviledged information. If you are not the intended recepient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: Hans-Joachim r...@chef.net Cc: users@ovirt.org, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:32:59 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 09/03/2013 11:31 AM, Hans-Joachim wrote: 3.) Priorisation of hosts to put the VMs on p.e. the fastest node just a btw, you should be able to do this with a weight function of your own in ovirt 3.3.1 More information available here: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/oVirtSchedulerAPI#Cost_Function ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: \René \Koch (ovido)\\ r.k...@ovido.at, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Cc: ovirt-users users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:41:27 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 09/05/2013 11:31 AM, René Koch (ovido) wrote: - Resource pools At the moment only Quotas are available (which is great, btw), but in some cases it's necessary to implement resource pools. E.g. Limit CPU, Memory and Network for group of test vms, but give full resources to production vms. Maybe this could be done with cgroups? So e.g. I don't want to give a compile machine a full cpu core, but only 1 core with 500MHz or limit the bandwith to e.g. 10Mbit/s. doron - doesn't cpu shared provide this? CPU shares provide better prioritization, but not hard constraints. So for 3.3 you should be able to use it to prioritize CPU consumption and hopefully we'll get to cgroup limitations in the coming version(s). As for network, we have in master (but not in 3.3) Network QoS, which gives the limitations you were asking for. Current gaps are completing CPU limitations, memory and storage. The latter has an API in VDSM we need to verify and utilize. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Thanks for the info. Regards, On 06/10/13 17:26, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/29/2013 05:22 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote: Hi, I think that one of the best things from Proxmox is the ability to connect to any of the hosts via web and been able to admin the hole infrastructure from there. This avoids the single point of failure that today engine represents in ovirt plataform. hosted engine should resolve this one. I agree with Jakub that been able to mix Intel and AMD hosts would be great so we can use the hole of the servers into a DC and engine may migrate VM to the same kind of processors if available but if not, as i replied just now, afaik, live migration between intel/amd isn't supported by kvm. migrate to any available host and alert about the performance degradation. you can't really migrate to a lesser host, only to at least same cpu level. I'm still a rookie to ovirt so at this time I don't know all the features to make further coments. I think you have a great product and the best of it is the speed it's improving. thanks, glad to hear. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 08/27/2013 09:48 PM, Dead Horse wrote: This: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-August/015713.html (freedom in mixing storage domain types no SPF Master Storage domain) going forward, the focus is to remove the concept of pool and master storage domain all together. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 08/29/2013 05:22 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote: Hi, I think that one of the best things from Proxmox is the ability to connect to any of the hosts via web and been able to admin the hole infrastructure from there. This avoids the single point of failure that today engine represents in ovirt plataform. hosted engine should resolve this one. I agree with Jakub that been able to mix Intel and AMD hosts would be great so we can use the hole of the servers into a DC and engine may migrate VM to the same kind of processors if available but if not, as i replied just now, afaik, live migration between intel/amd isn't supported by kvm. migrate to any available host and alert about the performance degradation. you can't really migrate to a lesser host, only to at least same cpu level. I'm still a rookie to ovirt so at this time I don't know all the features to make further coments. I think you have a great product and the best of it is the speed it's improving. thanks, glad to hear. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/03/2013 11:31 AM, Hans-Joachim wrote: 4.) database script, which cleans/repaires unused entries (p.e. storage_server_connections, images, ...) while there isn't one for storage connections, there is a script to release/unlock entities like vm/template/disk (from image locked status mostly) ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/05/2013 11:31 AM, René Koch (ovido) wrote: - Resource pools At the moment only Quotas are available (which is great, btw), but in some cases it's necessary to implement resource pools. E.g. Limit CPU, Memory and Network for group of test vms, but give full resources to production vms. Maybe this could be done with cgroups? So e.g. I don't want to give a compile machine a full cpu core, but only 1 core with 500MHz or limit the bandwith to e.g. 10Mbit/s. doron - doesn't cpu shared provide this? ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
not sure if this is considered for future releases but it would be very nice to have application level HA (not just VM level) and configuration to be done from engine Cheers Liviu On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorick Astrego j.astr...@netbulae.euwrote: As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly. It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes. There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/23/2013 11:43 PM, Liviu Elama wrote: not sure if this is considered for future releases but it would be very nice to have application level HA (not just VM level) and configuration to be done from engine hi liviu, can you please elaborate a bit more? thanks, Itamar Cheers Liviu On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorick Astrego j.astr...@netbulae.eu mailto:j.astr...@netbulae.eu wrote: As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly. It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes. There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Yes sure :). I'll use VMware as an example here. They have APIs presented so that VMware tools can monitor and provide application HA based on a particular application running inside the guest (can be a tomcat server or whatever app) there are some community scripts that can take advantage of this APIs but there are a few commercial software like Symantec Application HA which use a cut off version of Veritas Cluster integrated with vCenter to configure and monitor application cluster inside the VM and restart VM or the application cluster inside VM. maybe we can have a feature like that that the guest tools can provided application level monitoring and configuration of the application cluster can be integrated in the engine. Cheers Liviu On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/23/2013 11:43 PM, Liviu Elama wrote: not sure if this is considered for future releases but it would be very nice to have application level HA (not just VM level) and configuration to be done from engine hi liviu, can you please elaborate a bit more? thanks, Itamar Cheers Liviu On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorick Astrego j.astr...@netbulae.eu mailto:j.astr...@netbulae.eu** wrote: As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly. It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes. There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly. It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes. There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs. eg. If DNS** ensure different node On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Liviu Elama liviu.el...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone knows when multiple types of storage domains will be available in the same cluster( e.g local disk and FC and GlusterFS)? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Chris Smith whitehat...@gmail.comwrote: What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, Baptiste AGASSE baptiste.aga...@lyra-network.com wrote: Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for this thread ! - ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup Have a nice day. Regards. --- Baptiste ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/17/2013 01:21 PM, Andrew Lau wrote: I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs. eg. If DNS** ensure different node we call this 'negative affinity' with the new pluggable scheduler in 3.3, you can write a script to extend the scheduler to do this. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Liviu Elama liviu.el...@gmail.com mailto:liviu.el...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone knows when multiple types of storage domains will be available in the same cluster( e.g local disk and FC and GlusterFS)? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Chris Smith whitehat...@gmail.com mailto:whitehat...@gmail.com wrote: What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, Baptiste AGASSE baptiste.aga...@lyra-network.com mailto:baptiste.aga...@lyra-network.com wrote: Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - From: Gianluca Cecchi gianluca.cec...@gmail.com To: Andrew Lau and...@andrewklau.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:03:41 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Andrew Lau wrote: I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs. eg. If DNS** ensure different node In ovirt 3.2 there is this kind of configuration under edit VM --- Host https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvcUc3cUV1ekM5UXM/edit?usp=sharing not full anti-affinity configuration, but suitable for small environments... Gianluca This is relevant on cases where the VM should not be migrating, which may effect HA VMs. So yes, it is possible to use it unless you expect migration for these VMs. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On Sun, 2013-09-08 at 18:03 -0400, Doron Fediuck wrote: - Original Message - From: René Koch (ovido) r.k...@ovido.at To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com Cc: ovirt-users users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:31:57 AM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi, Thanks for starting this thread again. On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 17:19 -0400, Itamar Heim wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize Great! V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin Zabbix isn't working yet with my ui plugin (is there maybe another one which integrates Zabbix?) - but it will be available in a future release. Btw, there will be a new version of the monitoring ui plugin with new features available out at the end of this week... V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template This is definitely one feature I would like to see. ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] The next feature I would like to request. V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init Cool. Can this be done on oVirt-node as well or only on CentOS/RHEL/Fedora hosts? X Integrate v2v into engine Vote for this again :) ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch At the moment spice support is really a pain (especially on Windows as the SpiceX.cab is missing). Great to hear that spice support has improved and Chrome can be used as well! Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS ISO and export domains on FC/iSCSI would be good to have as well. - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list Good to hear that other Linux distributions will be added as well. - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) Additional features I would like to see are: - oVirt guest agent for Ubuntu/openSUSE/SLES/Debian * *Ubuntu is already available thanks to Zhou Zheng Sheng - Resource pools At the moment only Quotas are available (which is great, btw), but in some cases it's necessary to implement resource pools. E.g. Limit CPU, Memory and Network for group of test vms, but give full resources to production vms. Maybe this could be done with cgroups? So e.g. I don't want to give a compile machine a full cpu core, but only 1 core with 500MHz or limit the bandwith to e.g. 10Mbit/s. Hi René, Due to time constraints, it did not make it into the 3.3 release, however in master we already have network QoS allowing you to limit bandwidth for vNICs. Also, we managed to implement CPU shares which allows you to handle priorities. Both will be included in the next version, and hopefuly some more. So if you ever feel like taking a ride with the bleeding edge, you have both network QoS and CPU shares waiting there. Thanks a lot for the information! It's great to know that this is/will be available. - Upload ISOs within the GUI to ISO domain - Use existing share for ISO domain When creating an ISO domain, oVirt creates it's own directory structure with IDs. It would be nice if an existing share could be used (e.g. an ISO share on NFS server which is used by other service, too) without creating the structure with IDs. I know that the IDs are needed internally but I think
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Anyone knows when multiple types of storage domains will be available in the same cluster( e.g local disk and FC and GlusterFS)? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Chris Smith whitehat...@gmail.com wrote: What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, Baptiste AGASSE baptiste.aga...@lyra-network.com wrote: Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for this thread ! - ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup Have a nice day. Regards. --- Baptiste ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Il 20/08/2013 23:19, Itamar Heim ha scritto: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I think we should consider also to ensure compatibility with OVF 2.0.1 standard: http://schemas.dmtf.org/ovf/envelope/2/dsp8023_2.0.xsd Not sure about the actual compatibility level -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast efficient and cleaner than than fcoe. Thanks for considering it as a possible feature request. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, Baptiste AGASSE baptiste.aga...@lyra-network.com wrote: Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for this thread ! - ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup Have a nice day. Regards. --- Baptiste ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for this thread ! - ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup Have a nice day. Regards. --- Baptiste ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi all, whats about Live Snapshot delete function? Its great to create live Snapshots, but for business critical vms its also nessesary to delete online snapshots. Greetz -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] Im Auftrag von Baptiste AGASSE Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. September 2013 17:58 An: Itamar Heim Cc: users@ovirt.org Betreff: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi all, - Mail original - De: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for this thread ! - ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup Have a nice day. Regards. --- Baptiste ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users it-novum GmbH i. A. Kai Wagner Consultant Tel: +49 (661) 103-762 Fax: +49 (661) 103-17762 kai.wag...@it-novum.com it-novum GmbH * Edelzeller Straße 44 * 36043 Fulda * http://www.it-novum.com Handelsregister Amtsgericht Fulda, HRB 1934 * Geschäftsführer: Michael Kienle Sitz der Gesellschaft: Fulda Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail ist vertraulich. Wenn Sie nicht der eigentliche Empfänger sein sollten, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender oder vernichten umgehend diese Mail. Jegliche unerlaubte Vervielfältigung oder Weiterleitung dieser Mail ist strengstens verboten. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or priviledged information. If you are not the intended recepient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi Doron, But first you have to install the engine, before the VM. So, the idea is to make a backup and restore it to a VM? - Original Message - From: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com To: supo...@logicworks.pt Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Domingo, 8 de Setembro de 2013 23:06:20 Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi Jose, the latter is available by hosted engine, which is a highly available VM which will be migrated / restarted on a different host if something goes wrong. - Original Message - From: supo...@logicworks.pt To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 1:43:04 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Could be great o have on the Engine: - An upload option for the ISO files - A backup and restore option - An high availability for the engine: install the engine on 2 platforms (hardware?), than integrate them for synchronization Jose From: noc n...@nieuwland.nl Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sexta-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2013 10:28:09 Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? They would need physical access to your rack which ofcourse is locked, you would need to powerdown/up which would trigger an alert, switch port down/up would trigger an alert, so probably you're notified that something not quite right is happening. I haven't gone through the source to see if there is more then just the mac address check. other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several years, and it may be totally broken by now). please note this doesn't solve the need for a disk, just the auto-registration part (if it still works) What I would like is to have
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/09/2013 04:09 PM, supo...@logicworks.pt wrote: Hi Doron, But first you have to install the engine, before the VM. So, the idea is to make a backup and restore it to a VM? there is a special flow to create the engine VM. there is a deep dive right now on this. *From: *Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com *To: *supo...@logicworks.pt *Cc: *users@ovirt.org *Sent: *Domingo, 8 de Setembro de 2013 23:06:20 *Subject: *Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi Jose, the latter is available by hosted engine, which is a highly available VM which will be migrated / restarted on a different host if something goes wrong. - Original Message - From: supo...@logicworks.pt To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 1:43:04 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Could be great o have on the Engine: - An upload option for the ISO files - A backup and restore option - An high availability for the engine: install the engine on 2 platforms (hardware?), than integrate them for synchronization Jose From: noc n...@nieuwland.nl Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sexta-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2013 10:28:09 Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? They would need physical access to your rack which ofcourse is locked, you would need to powerdown/up which would trigger an alert, switch port down/up would trigger an alert, so probably you're notified that something not quite right is happening. I haven't gone through the source to see if there is more then just the mac address check. other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: supo...@logicworks.pt Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 4:10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 09/09/2013 04:09 PM, supo...@logicworks.pt wrote: Hi Doron, But first you have to install the engine, before the VM. So, the idea is to make a backup and restore it to a VM? there is a special flow to create the engine VM. there is a deep dive right now on this. Hi Jose, I hope you had a chance to join the session. You can find the lides explaining the process here: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release_notes#Deep_dives Doron *From: *Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com *To: *supo...@logicworks.pt *Cc: *users@ovirt.org *Sent: *Domingo, 8 de Setembro de 2013 23:06:20 *Subject: *Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi Jose, the latter is available by hosted engine, which is a highly available VM which will be migrated / restarted on a different host if something goes wrong. - Original Message - From: supo...@logicworks.pt To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 1:43:04 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Could be great o have on the Engine: - An upload option for the ISO files - A backup and restore option - An high availability for the engine: install the engine on 2 platforms (hardware?), than integrate them for synchronization Jose From: noc n...@nieuwland.nl Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sexta-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2013 10:28:09 Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - From: René Koch (ovido) r.k...@ovido.at To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com Cc: ovirt-users users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:31:57 AM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi, Thanks for starting this thread again. On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 17:19 -0400, Itamar Heim wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize Great! V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin Zabbix isn't working yet with my ui plugin (is there maybe another one which integrates Zabbix?) - but it will be available in a future release. Btw, there will be a new version of the monitoring ui plugin with new features available out at the end of this week... V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template This is definitely one feature I would like to see. ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] The next feature I would like to request. V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init Cool. Can this be done on oVirt-node as well or only on CentOS/RHEL/Fedora hosts? X Integrate v2v into engine Vote for this again :) ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch At the moment spice support is really a pain (especially on Windows as the SpiceX.cab is missing). Great to hear that spice support has improved and Chrome can be used as well! Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS ISO and export domains on FC/iSCSI would be good to have as well. - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list Good to hear that other Linux distributions will be added as well. - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) Additional features I would like to see are: - oVirt guest agent for Ubuntu/openSUSE/SLES/Debian * *Ubuntu is already available thanks to Zhou Zheng Sheng - Resource pools At the moment only Quotas are available (which is great, btw), but in some cases it's necessary to implement resource pools. E.g. Limit CPU, Memory and Network for group of test vms, but give full resources to production vms. Maybe this could be done with cgroups? So e.g. I don't want to give a compile machine a full cpu core, but only 1 core with 500MHz or limit the bandwith to e.g. 10Mbit/s. Hi René, Due to time constraints, it did not make it into the 3.3 release, however in master we already have network QoS allowing you to limit bandwidth for vNICs. Also, we managed to implement CPU shares which allows you to handle priorities. Both will be included in the next version, and hopefuly some more. So if you ever feel like taking a ride with the bleeding edge, you have both network QoS and CPU shares waiting there. - Upload ISOs within the GUI to ISO domain - Use existing share for ISO domain When creating an ISO domain, oVirt creates it's own directory structure with IDs. It would be nice if an existing share could be used (e.g. an ISO share on NFS server which is used by other service, too) without creating the structure with IDs. I know that the IDs are needed internally but I think it should be possible to reuse an existing share. Last but not least I want to thank all contributors of this project for their great work so far! Regards, René [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi Jose, the latter is available by hosted engine, which is a highly available VM which will be migrated / restarted on a different host if something goes wrong. - Original Message - From: supo...@logicworks.pt To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 1:43:04 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Could be great o have on the Engine: - An upload option for the ISO files - A backup and restore option - An high availability for the engine: install the engine on 2 platforms (hardware?), than integrate them for synchronization Jose From: noc n...@nieuwland.nl Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sexta-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2013 10:28:09 Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? They would need physical access to your rack which ofcourse is locked, you would need to powerdown/up which would trigger an alert, switch port down/up would trigger an alert, so probably you're notified that something not quite right is happening. I haven't gone through the source to see if there is more then just the mac address check. other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several years, and it may be totally broken by now). please note this doesn't solve the need for a disk, just the auto-registration part (if it still works) What I would like is to have the ovirt Node pxe booting and getting its config from engine or autoregister. I know there is a script which converts the iso into a huge pxeboot kernel but don't know how to solve or if its solved the config part. @karli: If you run your cluster in Memory Optimization=None then you won't need swap. Have been doing that for years and haven't had a single problem attributed to that. I just would like to have the choice, pxe
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
tor 2013-09-05 klockan 09:30 +0200 skrev noc: On 2-9-2013 16:32, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/02/2013 05:29 PM, NOC wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.orgmailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) What about swap? Don´t they have any swap file, or partition at all? Swap-file over NFS must suck quite badly, no? We have bought semi-cheap SSD's for our Hosts to use as swap to get more out of them from memory overprovisioning. Regards, Joop ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.orgmailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Med Vänliga Hälsningar --- Karli Sjöberg Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@adm.slu.se ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
I thought Foreman already integrates with oVirt / RHEV ? Alex On 09/05/2013 08:30 AM, noc wrote: we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/06/2013 08:11 AM, Karli Sjöberg wrote: What about swap? Don´t they have any swap file, or partition at all? Swap-file over NFS must suck quite badly, no? We have bought semi-cheap SSD's for our Hosts to use as swap to get more out of them from memory overprovisioning. I don't quite see the point, unless you have mirrored ssd's. Data corruption on ssd's is more frequent than on spinning disks and disastrous when it happens in a swapped out page... (And why not add more RAM?) But why use swap at all? I'm assuming you dimension a node to its intended use, so I guess lots of memory and CPU cores (in our case anyway) and you can allocate the available memory to the VMs until it's finished. I don't see much need for swap there. Perhaps my view is different than usual, I see swap as the gravelly escape roads on steep hills for trucks/cars who have failing breaks. It just reduces the damage in case of unexpected failures. Swap isn't something to use on a regular basis as cheep memory, as RAM is not that expensive anymore and magnitudes faster. /Simon ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/05/2013 11:31 AM, René Koch (ovido) wrote: V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init Cool. Can this be done on oVirt-node as well or only on CentOS/RHEL/Fedora hosts? I'll compile the rest later - just on this specific question - it should work on oVirt-node as well. please report a bug if it doesn't. thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several years, and it may be totally broken by now). please note this doesn't solve the need for a disk, just the auto-registration part (if it still works) ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
fre 2013-09-06 klockan 09:46 +0200 skrev NOC: On 09/06/2013 08:11 AM, Karli Sjöberg wrote: What about swap? Don´t they have any swap file, or partition at all? Swap-file over NFS must suck quite badly, no? We have bought semi-cheap SSD's for our Hosts to use as swap to get more out of them from memory overprovisioning. I don't quite see the point, unless you have mirrored ssd's. Data corruption on ssd's is more frequent than on spinning disks and disastrous when it happens in a swapped out page... Yes they absolutely need to be mirrored. I disagree though that modern SSD's are more failure-prone than spinning disks. I would rather say that they about as failure-prone as any other disk: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-reliability-failure-rate,2923-9.html And if you know which one's to buy, and which ones to watch out for, they may even last you longer: http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-ssd-best-hdd-for-your-money-may-2013/ (And why not add more RAM?) Well, for us, it´s mainly since we are extremely budget-constraint, using old, worn out servers that can´t handle putting in that much RAM. Also older servers require older RAM, which in turn are harder- and more expensive- to come by. But why use swap at all? I'm assuming you dimension a node to its intended use, so I guess lots of memory and CPU cores (in our case anyway) and you can allocate the available memory to the VMs until it's finished. I don't see much need for swap there. Perhaps my view is different than usual, I see swap as the gravelly escape roads on steep hills for trucks/cars who have failing breaks. It just reduces the damage in case of unexpected failures. Is there a down-side to reduce damage in case of unexpected failures?:) Swap isn't something to use on a regular basis as cheep memory, as RAM is not that expensive anymore and magnitudes faster. /Simon -- Med Vänliga Hälsningar --- Karli Sjöberg Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@adm.slu.se ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? They would need physical access to your rack which ofcourse is locked, you would need to powerdown/up which would trigger an alert, switch port down/up would trigger an alert, so probably you're notified that something not quite right is happening. I haven't gone through the source to see if there is more then just the mac address check. other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several years, and it may be totally broken by now). please note this doesn't solve the need for a disk, just the auto-registration part (if it still works) What I would like is to have the ovirt Node pxe booting and getting its config from engine or autoregister. I know there is a script which converts the iso into a huge pxeboot kernel but don't know how to solve or if its solved the config part. @karli: If you run your cluster in Memory Optimization=None then you won't need swap. Have been doing that for years and haven't had a single problem attributed to that. I just would like to have the choice, pxe boot the node and know that you don't have swap. Run with disks if you really need overprovisioning. Regards, Joop ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Could be great o have on the Engine: - An upload option for the ISO files - A backup and restore option - An high availability for the engine: install the engine on 2 platforms (hardware?), than integrate them for synchronization Jose - Original Message - From: noc n...@nieuwland.nl Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sexta-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2013 10:28:09 Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? They would need physical access to your rack which ofcourse is locked, you would need to powerdown/up which would trigger an alert, switch port down/up would trigger an alert, so probably you're notified that something not quite right is happening. I haven't gone through the source to see if there is more then just the mac address check. other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several years, and it may be totally broken by now). please note this doesn't solve the need for a disk, just the auto-registration part (if it still works) What I would like is to have the ovirt Node pxe booting and getting its config from engine or autoregister. I know there is a script which converts the iso into a huge pxeboot kernel but don't know how to solve or if its solved the config part. @karli: If you run your cluster in Memory Optimization=None then you won't need swap. Have been doing that for years and haven't had a single problem attributed to that. I just would like to have the choice, pxe boot the node and know that you don't have swap. Run with disks if you really need overprovisioning. Regards, Joop ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org
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A lot of work.. but has there been any consideration into redesigning the web UI? Right now it's so complex and heavy, takes a while to load and too many features are hidden! I've been using oVirt for half a year.. and I'm still finding small useful things hidden here and there. In comparison I like how Openstack has a lovely interface which hides its thousands of complexities behind a clean interface. Just a thought.. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:43 PM, supo...@logicworks.pt wrote: Could be great o have on the Engine: - An upload option for the ISO files - A backup and restore option - An high availability for the engine: install the engine on 2 platforms (hardware?), than integrate them for synchronization Jose -- *From: *noc n...@nieuwland.nl *Cc: *users@ovirt.org *Sent: *Sexta-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2013 10:28:09 *Subject: *Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? On 6-9-2013 10:12, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/05/2013 10:30 AM, noc wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) just wondering, how do they prevent a rogue node/guest from masquerading as such a host, getting access/secrets/VMs to be launched on such an untrusted node (they could easily report a different mac address if the layer 2 isn't hardened against that)? They would need physical access to your rack which ofcourse is locked, you would need to powerdown/up which would trigger an alert, switch port down/up would trigger an alert, so probably you're notified that something not quite right is happening. I haven't gone through the source to see if there is more then just the mac address check. other than that, yes. we actually used to have this via the AutoApprovePatterns config option, which would have the engine approve a pending node as it registers (I admit i don't think anyone used this last several years, and it may be totally broken by now). please note this doesn't solve the need for a disk, just the auto-registration part (if it still works) What I would like is to have the ovirt Node pxe booting and getting its config from engine or autoregister. I know there is a script which converts the iso into a huge pxeboot kernel but don't know how to solve or if its solved the config part. @karli: If you run your cluster in Memory Optimization
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/06/2013 02:19 PM, Andrew Lau wrote: A lot of work.. but has there been any consideration into redesigning the web UI? Right now it's so complex and heavy, takes a while to load and too many features are hidden! I've been using oVirt for half a year.. and I'm still finding small useful things hidden here and there. Can you provide more details on issues you're seeing, and suggestions for a future approach? ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/06/2013 02:19 PM, Andrew Lau wrote: A lot of work.. but has there been any consideration into redesigning the web UI? Right now it's so complex and heavy, takes a while to load and too many features are hidden! I've been using oVirt for half a year.. and I'm still finding small useful things hidden here and there. Can you provide more details on issues you're seeing, and suggestions for a future approach? It's not really an issue.. more of a suggestion. But if for example you look at the Foreman UI, everything is categorized and if for example you want to modify X it's right there under the obvious menu option. When it comes to oVirt, the documentation isn't as readily available and for example if you wanted to modify the network configuration it takes about 10 different mouse clicks to get to where you want, and then sometimes it errors and then you need to refresh the page or something. The general feel, maybe it's just my setups but the login process always takes between 30-90 seconds, probably to load all the javascript etc. A simple HTML + jquery approach similar to Openstack / Foreman would be much cleaner experience. Whenever I've showed oVirt to other people. They've always mentioned how slow the UI experience is, different from the stereotype of being able to do things more effectively on Linux compared to Windows. Obviously I'm looking from just the Administration portal POV, and my suggestion isn't really critical as it doesn't effect what matters most (VMs, Features etc.) but it would really bring oVirt to a new level visually and make it a little more appealing. Apologizes for the poorly formatted ramble. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Cituji Zhou Zheng Sheng zhshz...@linux.vnet.ibm.com: Thanks Jakub, on 2013/09/04 22:08, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 4.9.2013 15:47, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi Jakub, on 2013/09/04 20:40, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 4.9.2013 12:32, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! Hi Zhou Zheng Sheng, would it be possible to create package (and repository on ppa) for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and for Debian Wheezy? I tried raring packages in precise(LTS), I can install it with no problem, start it, But it does not show anything in oVirt VM screen. Here is the log: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36992/ Information from RHEL guests works well. Thank you. Sure. I think 12.04 LTS is a good release target. I can submit a package for it. I have a look at the exception you pasted. It looks like not related to Ubuntu, it might related to xml character filtering and unicode. I see some related patches in the git log. This is because I packaged the latest upstream. Maybe Vinzenz Feenstra can help to investigate the problem. May I know the agent version you used for RHEL guest? I can package the same version for Ubuntu 12.04. I am using version rhevm-guest-agent-common-1.0.7-12.el6ev.noarch on rhel 6.4 and on Fedora 19 ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.6-6.fc19.noarch. Thank you. I've upload ovirt-guest-agent 1.0.7 for Precise to my ppa. You can get it from https://launchpad.net/~zhshzhou/+archive/vdsm-ubuntu/+packages You can wget the .deb file and gdebi it. The actual version is a bit newer than 1.0.7 because the Ubuntu packaging scripts are introduced after 1.0.7. The agent runs successfully on my Ubuntu 1204 guest and reports IP and file system information correctly. -- Thanks and best regards! Zhou Zheng Sheng / 周征晟 E-mail: zhshz...@linux.vnet.ibm.com Telephone: 86-10-82454397 Thank you! It would be great to have information from Debian based guest in oVirt. I will try it on various installations of ubuntu and debian servers and I will let you know how it works. As soon as I get to work on monday ;-) This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Thanks Jakub, on 2013/09/04 22:08, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 4.9.2013 15:47, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi Jakub, on 2013/09/04 20:40, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 4.9.2013 12:32, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! Hi Zhou Zheng Sheng, would it be possible to create package (and repository on ppa) for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and for Debian Wheezy? I tried raring packages in precise(LTS), I can install it with no problem, start it, But it does not show anything in oVirt VM screen. Here is the log: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36992/ Information from RHEL guests works well. Thank you. Sure. I think 12.04 LTS is a good release target. I can submit a package for it. I have a look at the exception you pasted. It looks like not related to Ubuntu, it might related to xml character filtering and unicode. I see some related patches in the git log. This is because I packaged the latest upstream. Maybe Vinzenz Feenstra can help to investigate the problem. May I know the agent version you used for RHEL guest? I can package the same version for Ubuntu 12.04. I am using version rhevm-guest-agent-common-1.0.7-12.el6ev.noarch on rhel 6.4 and on Fedora 19 ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.6-6.fc19.noarch. Thank you. I've upload ovirt-guest-agent 1.0.7 for Precise to my ppa. You can get it from https://launchpad.net/~zhshzhou/+archive/vdsm-ubuntu/+packages You can wget the .deb file and gdebi it. The actual version is a bit newer than 1.0.7 because the Ubuntu packaging scripts are introduced after 1.0.7. The agent runs successfully on my Ubuntu 1204 guest and reports IP and file system information correctly. -- Thanks and best regards! Zhou Zheng Sheng / 周征晟 E-mail: zhshz...@linux.vnet.ibm.com Telephone: 86-10-82454397 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi Itamar, on 2013/09/04 20:06, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 01:32 PM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! great info - is this somewhere on the wiki? I've updated the WIKI. http://www.ovirt.org/Ubuntu/GuestAgent#Additional_Information -- Thanks and best regards! Zhou Zheng Sheng / 周征晟 E-mail: zhshz...@linux.vnet.ibm.com Telephone: 86-10-82454397 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On Sep 3, 2013, at 14:58 , alireza sadeh seighalan seighal...@gmail.com wrote: hi in ovirt 3.2 there isnt ubuntu in the list. 3.3 is released?can i download it ? regards On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi ubuntu should list in ther agent list. when you want to create vm's in the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other OS's. regards sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to list of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing? Ubuntu and SLES in the list didn't make the 3.3 branch off. It should be easy enough to backport it to 3.3.1 As well as the guest agent .deb package. The support is there but not in the 3.3 RC build. Thanks, michal thanks, Itamar On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi again ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware . added in which list? about installation i have to install ovirt packages by local repository and there is problem in this status and in adding host to ovirt manager you need to install packages that need to internet . why do you need internet? you just need the host to be configured with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as well? regards, On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't tell you if they work or not. you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well: http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info guest agent for ubuntu should be working. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. can you please share more on the issues you faced? thanks, Itamar regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se__ | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 2-9-2013 16:32, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/02/2013 05:29 PM, NOC wrote: On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. we started adding foreman integration in 3.3: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ForemanIntegration adding ohad and oved for their thoughts on this. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users This isn't about provisioning with Foreman. Its about having the compute nodes NOT having any spinning disks. So the only way to start a node is to pxeboot it and then let it (re)connect with the engine. Then it will be identified by engine as either a new node or a reconnecting node and it will get its configuration from the engine. For reference: thats how VirtualIron works. It has a managment network, just like ovirt, and on that it runs a tftp and dhcp server. Nodes are plugged into the managment network, without disk, and then pxe booted after which they appear in the webui as new unconfigured nodes. You then can set various settings and upon rebooting the nodes will recieve these settings because it is recognised by its mac address. The advantage of this construct is that you can place a new server into a rack, cable it, power on and go back to you office where you'll find the new node waiting to be configured. No messing around with CDs to install an OS, not being in the datacenter for hours on end, just in and out. Yes, disks are cheap but they brake down, need maintenance, means downtime and in general more admin time then when you don't have them. ( its a shame to have a raid1 of 2 1Tb disk just to install an OS of less then 10G) Regards, Joop ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi, Thanks for starting this thread again. On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 17:19 -0400, Itamar Heim wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize Great! V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin Zabbix isn't working yet with my ui plugin (is there maybe another one which integrates Zabbix?) - but it will be available in a future release. Btw, there will be a new version of the monitoring ui plugin with new features available out at the end of this week... V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template This is definitely one feature I would like to see. ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] The next feature I would like to request. V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init Cool. Can this be done on oVirt-node as well or only on CentOS/RHEL/Fedora hosts? X Integrate v2v into engine Vote for this again :) ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch At the moment spice support is really a pain (especially on Windows as the SpiceX.cab is missing). Great to hear that spice support has improved and Chrome can be used as well! Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS ISO and export domains on FC/iSCSI would be good to have as well. - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list Good to hear that other Linux distributions will be added as well. - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) Additional features I would like to see are: - oVirt guest agent for Ubuntu/openSUSE/SLES/Debian * *Ubuntu is already available thanks to Zhou Zheng Sheng - Resource pools At the moment only Quotas are available (which is great, btw), but in some cases it's necessary to implement resource pools. E.g. Limit CPU, Memory and Network for group of test vms, but give full resources to production vms. Maybe this could be done with cgroups? So e.g. I don't want to give a compile machine a full cpu core, but only 1 core with 500MHz or limit the bandwith to e.g. 10Mbit/s. - Upload ISOs within the GUI to ISO domain - Use existing share for ISO domain When creating an ISO domain, oVirt creates it's own directory structure with IDs. It would be nice if an existing share could be used (e.g. an ISO share on NFS server which is used by other service, too) without creating the structure with IDs. I know that the IDs are needed internally but I think it should be possible to reuse an existing share. Last but not least I want to thank all contributors of this project for their great work so far! Regards, René [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! -- Thanks and best regards! Zhou Zheng Sheng / 周征晟 E-mail: zhshz...@linux.vnet.ibm.com Telephone: 86-10-82454397 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/04/2013 01:32 PM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! great info - is this somewhere on the wiki? ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Dne 4.9.2013 12:32, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! Hi Zhou Zheng Sheng, would it be possible to create package (and repository on ppa) for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and for Debian Wheezy? I tried raring packages in precise(LTS), I can install it with no problem, start it, But it does not show anything in oVirt VM screen. Here is the log: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36992/ Information from RHEL guests works well. Thank you. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi Jakub, on 2013/09/04 20:40, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 4.9.2013 12:32, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! Hi Zhou Zheng Sheng, would it be possible to create package (and repository on ppa) for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and for Debian Wheezy? I tried raring packages in precise(LTS), I can install it with no problem, start it, But it does not show anything in oVirt VM screen. Here is the log: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36992/ Information from RHEL guests works well. Thank you. Sure. I think 12.04 LTS is a good release target. I can submit a package for it. I have a look at the exception you pasted. It looks like not related to Ubuntu, it might related to xml character filtering and unicode. I see some related patches in the git log. This is because I packaged the latest upstream. Maybe Vinzenz Feenstra can help to investigate the problem. May I know the agent version you used for RHEL guest? I can package the same version for Ubuntu 12.04. -- Thanks and best regards! Zhou Zheng Sheng / 周征晟 E-mail: zhshz...@linux.vnet.ibm.com Telephone: 86-10-82454397 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Dne 4.9.2013 15:47, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi Jakub, on 2013/09/04 20:40, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 4.9.2013 12:32, Zhou Zheng Sheng napsal(a): Hi all, on 2013/09/04 16:10, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/04/2013 10:12 AM, Zhou Zheng Sheng wrote: ... it is supposed to work, but we don't have the build environment to produce something regularly build it yourself, if you can, it should work just fine…or maybe Zhou Zheng Sheng can help with building it Tahnks, michal Ubuntu packaging scripts are already in oVirt guest agent upstream. I can build the package and put it to launchpad.net under my PPA. Once it's ready I'll reply this mail again, then you can use apt-get to install it. I think we can also setup an Ubuntu repository on ovirt.org for the users. I'm now working on VDSM packaging, in a near future we will have to find a place to host all the .deb packages. My PPA is just a temporary place, ovirt.org is a better place. great - highly appreciated. I've submitted ovirt-guest-agent to launchpad.net. This is how you can install it for a Ubuntu 1304(raring) guest. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhshzhou/vdsm-ubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ovirt-guest-agent After install, the ovirt-guest-agent daemon is automatically started. You can also control it using initctl start/status/stop. It If you have any problems, search /var/log/ovirt-guest-agent/ovirt-guest-agent.log for the clue. Feedback is welcome! Hi Zhou Zheng Sheng, would it be possible to create package (and repository on ppa) for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and for Debian Wheezy? I tried raring packages in precise(LTS), I can install it with no problem, start it, But it does not show anything in oVirt VM screen. Here is the log: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36992/ Information from RHEL guests works well. Thank you. Sure. I think 12.04 LTS is a good release target. I can submit a package for it. I have a look at the exception you pasted. It looks like not related to Ubuntu, it might related to xml character filtering and unicode. I see some related patches in the git log. This is because I packaged the latest upstream. Maybe Vinzenz Feenstra can help to investigate the problem. May I know the agent version you used for RHEL guest? I can package the same version for Ubuntu 12.04. I am using version rhevm-guest-agent-common-1.0.7-12.el6ev.noarch on rhel 6.4 and on Fedora 19 ovirt-guest-agent-common-1.0.6-6.fc19.noarch. Thank you. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from | previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). | | Thanks, | Itamar | | [1] from the top 12 | V Allow disk resize | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin | V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] | V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration | X Allow cloning VMs without template | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] | V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via |guest agent in engine - via cloud-init | X Integrate v2v into engine | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased |bandwidth[4] | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in |engine[5] | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch | | | Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: | - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same |time | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS | - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) | - noVNC support | - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy | - Add other guest OSes to list | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but |mime based launch allows using firefox now) | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based |launch) | | | [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. | [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. | [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if | they cover this exact use case | [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of | backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the | basic functionality of the guest agent. | ___ | Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org | http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | | | -- | | Med Vänliga Hälsningar | --- | Karli Sjöberg | Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences | Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) | S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden | Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 | karli.sjob...@slu.se | | ___ | Users mailing list | Users@ovirt.org | http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't tell you if they work or not. you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well: http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info guest agent for ubuntu should be working. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. can you please share more on the issues you faced? thanks, Itamar regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from | previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). | | Thanks, | Itamar | | [1] from the top 12 | V Allow disk resize | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin | V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] | V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration | X Allow cloning VMs without template | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] | V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via |guest agent in engine - via cloud-init | X Integrate v2v into engine | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased |bandwidth[4] | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in |engine[5] | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch | | | Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: | - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same |time | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS | - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) | - noVNC support | - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy | - Add other guest OSes to list | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but |mime based launch allows using firefox now) | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based |launch) | | | [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. | [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. | [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if | they cover this exact use case | [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
hi again ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware . about installation i have to install ovirt packages by local repository and there is problem in this status and in adding host to ovirt manager you need to install packages that need to internet . regards, On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't tell you if they work or not. you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well: http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info guest agent for ubuntu should be working. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. can you please share more on the issues you faced? thanks, Itamar regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.**sejan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from | previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). | | Thanks, | Itamar | | [1] from the top 12 | V Allow disk resize | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin | V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] | V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration | X Allow cloning VMs without template | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] | V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via |guest agent in engine - via cloud-init | X Integrate v2v into engine | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased |bandwidth[4] | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in |engine[5] | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch | | | Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: | - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same |time | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS | - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) | - noVNC support | - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy | - Add other guest OSes to list | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - | From: Hans-Joachim r...@chef.net | To: users@ovirt.org | Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:31:22 AM | Subject: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hello, | | here my 5 cents... | | 1.) intelligent power management as requested by Karli Sjoberg I'd like to work with the community on the above, which can be handled by users code in the new oVirt scheduler. Any volunteers, please start a new thread in the users list. Having that as users code will help us take it in the mainline in the next oVirt version. Doron | 2.) reimport of existing (iSCSI) Storage Domains as desaster recovery or easy | way to move from one oVIRT installation to an other | 3.) Priorisation of hosts to put the VMs on p.e. the fastest node | 4.) database script, which cleans/repaires unused entries (p.e. | storage_server_connections, images, ...) | 5.) reporting for EL6 | 6.) VM startup flow (starting infrastructure VMs before DB VMs before | application VMs, .) | | Hans-Joachim | | ___ | Users mailing list | Users@ovirt.org | http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi again ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware . added in which list? about installation i have to install ovirt packages by local repository and there is problem in this status and in adding host to ovirt manager you need to install packages that need to internet . why do you need internet? you just need the host to be configured with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as well? regards, On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't tell you if they work or not. you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well: http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info guest agent for ubuntu should be working. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. can you please share more on the issues you faced? thanks, Itamar regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from | previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). | | Thanks, | Itamar | | [1] from the top 12 | V Allow disk resize | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin | V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] | V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration | X Allow cloning VMs without template | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
hi ubuntu should list in ther agent list. when you want to create vm's in the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other OS's. regards On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi again ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware . added in which list? about installation i have to install ovirt packages by local repository and there is problem in this status and in adding host to ovirt manager you need to install packages that need to internet . why do you need internet? you just need the host to be configured with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as well? regards, On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't tell you if they work or not. you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well: http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info guest agent for ubuntu should be working. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. can you please share more on the issues you faced? thanks, Itamar regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se* * | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.**sejan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu._**_se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. **se jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from | previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). | | Thanks, | Itamar | | [1] from the top 12 | V Allow disk resize
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
hi in ovirt 3.2 there isnt ubuntu in the list. 3.3 is released?can i download it ? regards On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi ubuntu should list in ther agent list. when you want to create vm's in the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other OS's. regards sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to list of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing? thanks, Itamar On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi again ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware . added in which list? about installation i have to install ovirt packages by local repository and there is problem in this status and in adding host to ovirt manager you need to install packages that need to internet . why do you need internet? you just need the host to be configured with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as well? regards, On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote: hi please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's. we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't tell you if they work or not. you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well: http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info guest agent for ubuntu should be working. installation is a little hard specially in an evironment without internet. can you please share more on the issues you faced? thanks, Itamar regards, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com** wrote: - Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto: karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se**__ | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.**se jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu._**_se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. **se jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.**se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu._**_se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.**se jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my
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@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu. mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.se mailto:jan-olov.persson@slu.__se mailto:jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi, I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more resources. A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning again. /Karli tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.orgmailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Med Vänliga Hälsningar --- Karli Sjöberg Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@adm.slu.se ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Hi, On 09/02/2013 01:12 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote: Hi, I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more resources. A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning again. I agree. Current power-saving policy doesn't do much other than consolidating VMs. Having a tunable based on which X/Y idle hosts in the cluster could be powered-off, where Y-X hosts are ON just for backup. I would love to see that in the coming days in oVirt. It would also benefit if there is some kind of power-metering that is flagged in the GUI. How much power each system is consuming and over-all cluster is consuming. This would be a real handy number to access power consumption of the systems. Regards, Deepthi /Karli tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Med Vänliga Hälsningar --- Karli Sjöberg Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 karli.sjob...@slu.se mailto:karli.sjob...@adm.slu.se ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 09/02/2013 05:07 PM, NOC wrote: On 08/20/2013 11:19 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? I'd like to see some way to ensure redundant groups of VMs are running on physically different hosts. E.g. if I have 2 or 3 dns servers running in a VM, I'd like to have them running on different hosts if they are available. I'd like these VMs to repel each other w.r.t. the physical running space. I imagine sometimes one could want the opposite as well, that two VM's that depend on each other over the network are running as close together as possible... (i.e. attract each other) I'm sure this is all scriptable, but it seems to fit with the management part of oVirt very well. while scriptable, its been made an api in 3.3 (which allows to easily extend the scheduler, until such features are incorporated into mainline codebase as out of the box): http://www.ovirt.org/Features/oVirt_scheduler http://www.ovirt.org/Features/oVirtSchedulerAPI its also going to be covered here tomorrow: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-August/015936.html (other than that - yes, above feature is positive/negative vm affinity for scheduling and should be on the list) ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 08/20/2013 11:19 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? I'd like to see some way to ensure redundant groups of VMs are running on physically different hosts. E.g. if I have 2 or 3 dns servers running in a VM, I'd like to have them running on different hosts if they are available. I'd like these VMs to repel each other w.r.t. the physical running space. I imagine sometimes one could want the opposite as well, that two VM's that depend on each other over the network are running as close together as possible... (i.e. attract each other) I'm sure this is all scriptable, but it seems to fit with the management part of oVirt very well. Cheers Simon ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 08/21/2013 12:11 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? I think Joop means to be able to add hosts (nodes) to a cluster by adding their MAC address to the dhcp list for PXE boot into ovirt-node and thus join the cluster. This would make it easy to add new physical nodes without any spinning disks or other local storage requirements. I suppose this may not be easy with complex network connections (bonds on mgmt network, mgmt network on a tagged vlan, etc), but it should be possible if the management network interface is plain and physical. /Simon PS, Perhaps Joop can confirm this idea, we've talked about it IRL. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - | From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se | To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com | Cc: users@ovirt.org, Jan-Olov Persson jan-olov.pers...@slu.se | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? | | Hi, | | I would like to see a more advanced type of Power-Saving Cluster policy, | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode, so that it draws as little | power as possible and can be awoken by engine when VM's starts to use more | resources. | | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread evenly over Hosts during | day-time, when customers are actively using their VM's. But then during | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one or two Hosts, and the other | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and then woken up in the morning | again. | | /Karli | Hi Karli, this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some minor work on your side; In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which allows you to run your own code when doing VM placement and load balancing. You can write your own load balancing logic replacing the built-in one, which will switch to power saving at a given time. Once a host has no running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into S3 state (sleep), and when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to resume all suspended hosts. If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3 release. Doron | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar Heim: | | | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements | / etc. | | since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd | like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are | your pain points next? | | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from | previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). | | Thanks, | Itamar | | [1] from the top 12 | V Allow disk resize | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin | V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] | V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration | X Allow cloning VMs without template | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] | V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via |guest agent in engine - via cloud-init | X Integrate v2v into engine | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased |bandwidth[4] | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in |engine[5] | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch | | | Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: | - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same |time | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS | - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) | - noVNC support | - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy | - Add other guest OSes to list | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but |mime based launch allows using firefox now) | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based |launch) | | | [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. | [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. | [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if | they cover this exact use case | [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of | backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the | basic functionality of the guest agent. | ___ | Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org | http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | | | -- | | Med Vänliga Hälsningar | --- | Karli Sjöberg | Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences | Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8) | S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden | Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66 | karli.sjob...@slu.se | | ___ | Users mailing list | Users@ovirt.org | http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi, I think that one of the best things from Proxmox is the ability to connect to any of the hosts via web and been able to admin the hole infrastructure from there. This avoids the single point of failure that today engine represents in ovirt plataform. I agree with Jakub that been able to mix Intel and AMD hosts would be great so we can use the hole of the servers into a DC and engine may migrate VM to the same kind of processors if available but if not, migrate to any available host and alert about the performance degradation. I'm still a rookie to ovirt so at this time I don't know all the features to make further coments. I think you have a great product and the best of it is the speed it's improving. Regards, ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
importing any data storage domain i assume? Yes. Possibility of direct use of HW by VM. such as? Telephone modem. PCI-express cards. Graphic cards + USB devices, we have hardware license keys for some software. In kvm/qemu I can expose the license key directly to a VM. and the absolutely fantastic feature would be to create clusters from Intel and AMD processors together! well, you can do that today if you want to via a config change. the only thing is live migration won't work (you should probably use -cpu host to get best performance, since live migration won't be used anyway) (well, in theory we could live migrate only between hosts of same cpu vendor, but not sure interesting enough use case to make cluster and scheduling more complex). though you can do that part on your own with the new pluggable scheduler, or use -cpu host to get max performance if you don't care about live migration From my point of view it is better to have slower cpu performance and possibility to use all of our servers in cluster. I would like to have live migration available from intel to amd. The problem is only in cpu instruction sets? If so, I can use only common sets. Another feature which I forgot is network between VMs and mirroring traffic. Both configurable from WUI. Thank you ;-) __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 08/29/2013 06:55 PM, Steve Dainard wrote: + USB devices, we have hardware license keys for some software. In kvm/qemu I can expose the license key directly to a VM. is the current host usb hook working for you? ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Dne 20.8.2013 23:19, Itamar Heim napsal(a): earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Some time ago I was on IBM kvm virtualization preview and they show us gold image feature and I like it. It could be implemented in oVirt ;-) more info: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/ibmfsb/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sbsolutions.doc%2FugGoldImageOverview.htm Next nice feature could be importing existing iSCSI domain. Possibility of direct use of HW by VM. And the absolutely fantastic feature would be to create clusters from Intel and AMD processors together! Thank you ;-) ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 08/27/2013 06:27 PM, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 20.8.2013 23:19, Itamar Heim napsal(a): earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Some time ago I was on IBM kvm virtualization preview and they show us gold image feature and I like it. It could be implemented in oVirt ;-) more info: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/ibmfsb/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sbsolutions.doc%2FugGoldImageOverview.htm Can you explain how you view this as different from ovirt templates? Next nice feature could be importing existing iSCSI domain. importing any data storage domain i assume? Possibility of direct use of HW by VM. such as? and the absolutely fantastic feature would be to create clusters from Intel and AMD processors together! well, you can do that today if you want to via a config change. the only thing is live migration won't work (you should probably use -cpu host to get best performance, since live migration won't be used anyway) (well, in theory we could live migrate only between hosts of same cpu vendor, but not sure interesting enough use case to make cluster and scheduling more complex). though you can do that part on your own with the new pluggable scheduler, or use -cpu host to get max performance if you don't care about live migration Thank you ;-) ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Dne 27.8.2013 17:34, Itamar Heim napsal(a): On 08/27/2013 06:27 PM, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 20.8.2013 23:19, Itamar Heim napsal(a): earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Some time ago I was on IBM kvm virtualization preview and they show us gold image feature and I like it. It could be implemented in oVirt ;-) more info: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/ibmfsb/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sbsolutions.doc%2FugGoldImageOverview.htm Can you explain how you view this as different from ovirt templates? Next nice feature could be importing existing iSCSI domain. importing any data storage domain i assume? Yes. Possibility of direct use of HW by VM. such as? Telephone modem. PCI-express cards. Graphic cards and the absolutely fantastic feature would be to create clusters from Intel and AMD processors together! well, you can do that today if you want to via a config change. the only thing is live migration won't work (you should probably use -cpu host to get best performance, since live migration won't be used anyway) (well, in theory we could live migrate only between hosts of same cpu vendor, but not sure interesting enough use case to make cluster and scheduling more complex). though you can do that part on your own with the new pluggable scheduler, or use -cpu host to get max performance if you don't care about live migration From my point of view it is better to have slower cpu performance and possibility to use all of our servers in cluster. I would like to have live migration available from intel to amd. The problem is only in cpu instruction sets? If so, I can use only common sets. Another feature which I forgot is network between VMs and mirroring traffic. Both configurable from WUI. Thank you ;-) ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
This: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/engine-devel/2013-August/005364.html and This: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-August/015713.html(freedom in mixing storage domain types no SPF Master Storage domain) - DHC On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jakub Bittner j.bitt...@nbu.cz wrote: Dne 27.8.2013 17:34, Itamar Heim napsal(a): On 08/27/2013 06:27 PM, Jakub Bittner wrote: Dne 20.8.2013 23:19, Itamar Heim napsal(a): earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Some time ago I was on IBM kvm virtualization preview and they show us gold image feature and I like it. It could be implemented in oVirt ;-) more info: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/**infocenter/ibmfsb/v2r1/index.** jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.**sbsolutions.doc%**2FugGoldImageOverview.htmhttp://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/ibmfsb/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sbsolutions.doc%2FugGoldImageOverview.htm Can you explain how you view this as different from ovirt templates? Next nice feature could be importing existing iSCSI domain. importing any data storage domain i assume? Yes. Possibility of direct use of HW by VM. such as? Telephone modem. PCI-express cards. Graphic cards and the absolutely fantastic feature would be to create clusters from Intel and AMD processors together! well, you can do that today if you want to via a config change. the only thing is live migration won't work (you should probably use -cpu host to get best performance, since live migration won't be used anyway) (well, in theory we could live migrate only between hosts of same cpu vendor, but not sure interesting enough use case to make cluster and scheduling more complex). though you can do that part on your own with the new pluggable scheduler, or use -cpu host to get max performance if you don't care about live migration From my point of view it is better to have slower cpu performance and possibility to use all of our servers in cluster. I would like to have live migration available from intel to amd. The problem is only in cpu instruction sets? If so, I can use only common sets. Another feature which I forgot is network between VMs and mirroring traffic. Both configurable from WUI. Thank you ;-) __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi, I would like to this existing feature request implemented: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884653 Bug 884653 - [RFE] support single sign-on to user and admin portals Thanks Regards, Siggi On Tue, August 20, 2013 23:19, Itamar Heim wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Hi Itamar , I would be happy to throw in an idea . I think oVirt is lacking the ability to assign permissions on multiple VMs at once . For example , if I want to grant permissions to a certain user on 30 VMs , I need to do it manually (or with some script). I think this feature is essential for an enterprise aimed product. Also it would be really cool to have an ability to create groups within oVirt and not in the directory, and grant a group permissions on a vm instead of adding them one by one . For example , creating a group called Dev and give the group permissions on all relevant VMs instead of adding each user one by one . Hope to see this feature in the next versions . Thanks, Dotan Paz , - Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:19:16 AM Subject: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
- Original Message - From: Dotan Paz d...@redhat.com To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:14:42 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? Hi Itamar , I would be happy to throw in an idea . I think oVirt is lacking the ability to assign permissions on multiple VMs at once . For example , if I want to grant permissions to a certain user on 30 VMs , I need to do it manually (or with some script). I think this feature is essential for an enterprise aimed product. Also it would be really cool to have an ability to create groups within oVirt and not in the directory, and grant a group permissions on a vm instead of adding them one by one . For example , creating a group called Dev and give the group permissions on all relevant VMs instead of adding each user one by one . Hope to see this feature in the next versions . Thanks, Dotan Paz , 1. Following the discussion at users this week about clustered engine + load balancing, what about a feature in which each engine will manage X data centers (let's call this a site - I took the term from past experience), but using the web admin you will be able to view/manage data centers that belong to different sites? 2. Keystone authentication? - Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:19:16 AM Subject: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote: earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc. since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points next? below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). Thanks, Itamar [1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines-Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch) [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users What I would like to see in the next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Joop___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On 08/21/2013 02:40 AM, Joop van de Wege wrote: What I would like to see in the ! next version is pxe boot of the nodes. Probably not easy to achieve because of dependency on dhcp. Hi Joop, can you please give a bit more information on the use case / how you envision this? current thinking around bare metal provisioning of hosts is to extend the functionality around the foreman provider for this, but you may have other suggestions? Thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
