Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-22 Thread André Schild

Am 21.04.2014 23:02, schrieb Charles Marcus:
And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize 
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...


I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?


Where should thunderbird find the server?

André
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-22 Thread André Schild

Am 22.04.2014 08:47, schrieb André Schild:

Am 21.04.2014 23:02, schrieb Charles Marcus:
And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize 
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...


I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?


Where should thunderbird find the server?

Just a idea,
via (another) SRV record, just like Autoconfig works in TB or Outlook.

Why not query a SRV record in the integrator,
like Apple already uses...

https://www.icewarp.com/support/online_help/6480.htm
and
http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc6764

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-22 Thread Szládovics Péter

2014-04-22 13:49 keltezéssel, André Schild írta:

Am 22.04.2014 08:47, schrieb André Schild:

Am 21.04.2014 23:02, schrieb Charles Marcus:
And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize 
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...


I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?


Where should thunderbird find the server?

Just a idea,
via (another) SRV record, just like Autoconfig works in TB or Outlook.

Why not query a SRV record in the integrator,
like Apple already uses...

https://www.icewarp.com/support/online_help/6480.htm
and
http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc6764


SRV and other (SPF example) records are good, but lot of administrators 
hate them or they aren't interested in their support. :(

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-22 Thread Tanstaafl

On 4/22/2014 2:47 AM, André Schild an...@schild.ws wrote:

Am 21.04.2014 23:02, schrieb Charles Marcus:

And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...

I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?


Where should thunderbird find the server?


Good question...

First, since I know nothing about how extensions work in general, this 
is all purely fantasizing, but I was imagining something like:


1. Part of SOGo install is to create a special Apache listener on 
sogo-config.example.com, where example.com is the primary/default domain 
of the new SOGo user/customer.


2. SOGo Integrator is configured with some kind of variable based 
pointer to be able to talk to new SOGo setups, ie:


https://sogo-config.%userdom%.com/configs

%userdom% would be resolved based on the FQDN part of the users full 
email address.


SOGo would then be able to 'feed' the Integrator whatever customizations 
are necessary, on the fly, simply by adding them to the SOGo.conf file.


Obviously, this would probably require considerable work, but it seems 
to me to be much more preferable than having to do this in the extension 
itself, and having to redo it every time a new version comes out.


Ok, I'm awake now, sorry for dreaming out loud... ;)
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-22 Thread André Schild

Am 22.04.2014 13:58, schrieb Szládovics Péter:

2014-04-22 13:49 keltezéssel, André Schild írta:

Am 22.04.2014 08:47, schrieb André Schild:

Am 21.04.2014 23:02, schrieb Charles Marcus:
And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize 
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...


I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?


Where should thunderbird find the server?

Just a idea,
via (another) SRV record, just like Autoconfig works in TB or Outlook.

Why not query a SRV record in the integrator,
like Apple already uses...

https://www.icewarp.com/support/online_help/6480.htm
and
http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc6764


SRV and other (SPF example) records are good, but lot of 
administrators hate them or they aren't interested in their support. :(
But we would be in good company since MS is also using them for 
Outlook+Activesync autoconfig...


If some Sysadmins don't wan't to use them, then they could still 
manually modify the integrator package...


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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-22 Thread Charles Marcus

On 4/22/2014 9:39 AM, André Schild an...@schild.ws wrote:

Am 22.04.2014 13:58, schrieb Szládovics Péter:

2014-04-22 13:49 keltezéssel, André Schild írta:

Am 22.04.2014 08:47, schrieb André Schild:

Am 21.04.2014 23:02, schrieb Charles Marcus:
And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize 
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...


I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?


Where should thunderbird find the server?

Just a idea,
via (another) SRV record, just like Autoconfig works in TB or Outlook.

Why not query a SRV record in the integrator,
like Apple already uses...

https://www.icewarp.com/support/online_help/6480.htm
and
http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc6764


SRV and other (SPF example) records are good, but lot of 
administrators hate them or they aren't interested in their support. :(
But we would be in good company since MS is also using them for 
Outlook+Activesync autoconfig...


If some Sysadmins don't wan't to use them, then they could still 
manually modify the integrator package...


If this will work (Ludo?), then I like the idea... and it would motivate 
me to set these up for our mail server too...


If Ludo says this is doable, then I'll go open an enhancement request 
for it...


Thanks Andre!

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-21 Thread Charles Marcus
And even better would be, rather than having to manually customize 
Integrator, just specify the settings in SOGo.conf...


I'm assuming there is a reason  this isn't possible (yet)?



On 4/17/2014 8:24 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:

Thanks mourik,

I'll wait until I hear from one of the devs (Ludo?) before doing so to 
see if this is even remotely feasible (I guess i t depends on how SOGo 
is coded).


Simplified URLS would be really great though...

Hmmm...

I'd even go one further...

Being able to customize/specify these in sogo.conf...

Ie:

SOGoIMAPServer = localhost:1143;  //imapproxy
SOGoSieveServer = sieve://mail.example.com:4190;
SOGoSMTPServer = smtp.example.com;

then add the below new config options

SOGoWebURL = webmail.example.com;
SOGoDAVServer = dav.example.com;

Ludo? Is this even remotely feasible as a feature request?

Thanks



On 4/17/2014 4:30 AM, mourik jan heupink heup...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Charles,

As far as I know, these things cannot be changed.

However, just wodering, perhaps it could be an idea to load the 
entire url https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/ in a frame on 
https://webmail.example.com?


We are using a redirect on https://webmail.example.com, to redirect 
to /SOGo automatically.


For the card/caldav there are no options, as far as I know. And in 
fact I don't think SOGo/dav/username is your biggest problem. As soon 
as you create your own shared calendars, their url becomes something 
like /SOGo/dav/username/Calendar/595B-51C05100-FB-67505B80


I would really like to be able to adjust at least those numbers to 
something relevant, like /SOGo/dav/username/Calendar/room5


Perhaps it is an idea to file an enhancement request?

Mourik Jan

On 04/16/2014 05:23 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible to adjust the web browser for SOGo such that:

For our webmail access, instead of: https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/

It can just be: https://webmail.example.com

Also, same question for the Card/CalDAV URLS...

Instead of: https://sogo.example.com/SOGo/dav/username

I'd like it to be something like: https://dav.example.com/username

Is this possible by adjusting the apache configs? If so, I'm far 
from an apache guru, so some specific suggestions would be happily 
accepted... ;)










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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-17 Thread mourik jan heupink

Hi Charles,

As far as I know, these things cannot be changed.

However, just wodering, perhaps it could be an idea to load the entire 
url https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/ in a frame on 
https://webmail.example.com?


We are using a redirect on https://webmail.example.com, to redirect to 
/SOGo automatically.


For the card/caldav there are no options, as far as I know. And in fact 
I don't think SOGo/dav/username is your biggest problem. As soon as you 
create your own shared calendars, their url becomes something like 
/SOGo/dav/username/Calendar/595B-51C05100-FB-67505B80


I would really like to be able to adjust at least those numbers to 
something relevant, like /SOGo/dav/username/Calendar/room5


Perhaps it is an idea to file an enhancement request?

Mourik Jan

On 04/16/2014 05:23 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible to adjust the web browser for SOGo such that:

For our webmail access, instead of: https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/

It can just be: https://webmail.example.com

Also, same question for the Card/CalDAV URLS...

Instead of: https://sogo.example.com/SOGo/dav/username

I'd like it to be something like: https://dav.example.com/username

Is this possible by adjusting the apache configs? If so, I'm far from 
an apache guru, so some specific suggestions would be happily 
accepted... ;)




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Re: [SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-17 Thread Charles Marcus

Thanks mourik,

I'll wait until I hear from one of the devs (Ludo?) before doing so to 
see if this is even remotely feasible (I guess i t depends on how SOGo 
is coded).


Simplified URLS would be really great though...

Hmmm...

I'd even go one further...

Being able to customize/specify these in sogo.conf...

Ie:

SOGoIMAPServer = localhost:1143;  //imapproxy
SOGoSieveServer = sieve://mail.example.com:4190;
SOGoSMTPServer = smtp.example.com;

then add the below new config options

SOGoWebURL = webmail.example.com;
SOGoDAVServer = dav.example.com;

Ludo? Is this even remotely feasible as a feature request?

Thanks



On 4/17/2014 4:30 AM, mourik jan heupink heup...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Charles,

As far as I know, these things cannot be changed.

However, just wodering, perhaps it could be an idea to load the entire 
url https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/ in a frame on 
https://webmail.example.com?


We are using a redirect on https://webmail.example.com, to redirect to 
/SOGo automatically.


For the card/caldav there are no options, as far as I know. And in 
fact I don't think SOGo/dav/username is your biggest problem. As soon 
as you create your own shared calendars, their url becomes something 
like /SOGo/dav/username/Calendar/595B-51C05100-FB-67505B80


I would really like to be able to adjust at least those numbers to 
something relevant, like /SOGo/dav/username/Calendar/room5


Perhaps it is an idea to file an enhancement request?

Mourik Jan

On 04/16/2014 05:23 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible to adjust the web browser for SOGo such that:

For our webmail access, instead of: https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/

It can just be: https://webmail.example.com

Also, same question for the Card/CalDAV URLS...

Instead of: https://sogo.example.com/SOGo/dav/username

I'd like it to be something like: https://dav.example.com/username

Is this possible by adjusting the apache configs? If so, I'm far from 
an apache guru, so some specific suggestions would be happily 
accepted... ;)







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[SOGo] Question re: SOGo URLs and DNS settings

2014-04-16 Thread Charles Marcus

Hello,

Is it possible to adjust the web browser for SOGo such that:

For our webmail access, instead of: https://webmail.example.com/SOGo/

It can just be: https://webmail.example.com

Also, same question for the Card/CalDAV URLS...

Instead of: https://sogo.example.com/SOGo/dav/username

I'd like it to be something like: https://dav.example.com/username

Is this possible by adjusting the apache configs? If so, I'm far from an 
apache guru, so some specific suggestions would be happily accepted... ;)


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