Re: Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Stuart Johnston
Michael Parker wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 05:00:14PM -0600, Stuart Johnston wrote:
Yes, quite.  I double checked just to be sure and I notice that the 
'debug: plugin' line comes after the user_prefs is loaded even if it is 
loaded by init.pre.  Never the less, if I remove the loadplugin line 
from init.pre and keep it in user_prefs, the plugin is still loaded.  If 
I remove it from both, it does not load.


Please open a bug in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/) for
this.

http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4041


Re: spamassassin error messages

2004-12-17 Thread linda W.
Has anyone seen this type of error message?  Known bug that is fixed?
Am running on SuSE 9.1, SA v2.64-3.2.
> Use of uninitialized value in length at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line 457.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line 460.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line 461.
Use of uninitialized value in length at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line 457.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line 460.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line 461.
Learned from 102 message(s) (118 message(s) examined).

Thanks,
-linda


Re: Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Michael Parker
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 05:00:14PM -0600, Stuart Johnston wrote:
> 
> Yes, quite.  I double checked just to be sure and I notice that the 
> 'debug: plugin' line comes after the user_prefs is loaded even if it is 
> loaded by init.pre.  Never the less, if I remove the loadplugin line 
> from init.pre and keep it in user_prefs, the plugin is still loaded.  If 
> I remove it from both, it does not load.
> 

Please open a bug in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/) for
this.

Thanks
Michael


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Re: Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Stuart Johnston
Michael Parker wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 04:41:01PM -0600, Stuart Johnston wrote:
I certainly don't disagree with the security problems with allowing 
users to load plugins.  The problem is that in fact, user_conf CAN load 
a plugin and does quite certainly execute its code, despite what the 
documentation says.  It just doesn't do any good because the default 
rules will not be loaded.  Of course, that wouldn't matter to an attacker.

If spamassassin had given me a warning from the loadplugin line in my 
user_conf instead of:

debug: config: read file /home/stuart/.spamassassin/user_prefs
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC
debug: plugin: registered 
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa14a0d8)

Then it would have been quite obvious what the problem was.

Are you sure it isn't just in your init.pre file?
Yes, quite.  I double checked just to be sure and I notice that the 
'debug: plugin' line comes after the user_prefs is loaded even if it is 
loaded by init.pre.  Never the less, if I remove the loadplugin line 
from init.pre and keep it in user_prefs, the plugin is still loaded.  If 
I remove it from both, it does not load.

And I just tried from a different computer with the same results.
Stuart Johnston


Re: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Hacksaw
Having worked for an Equifax subsidiary many years ago, let me assure you that 
Equifax is a real company.

In fact, they are one of the credit reporting bureaus, and have been for a 
long time.

But this mail looks pretty suspicious. The website look a little sketchy as 
well, having no front pages.

Wouldn't surprise me if it's a phishing scam.

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what makes your say that Equifax is a spam 
company?
-- 
You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike. Again. 
http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD




Re: Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Michael Parker
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 04:41:01PM -0600, Stuart Johnston wrote:
> 
> I certainly don't disagree with the security problems with allowing 
> users to load plugins.  The problem is that in fact, user_conf CAN load 
> a plugin and does quite certainly execute its code, despite what the 
> documentation says.  It just doesn't do any good because the default 
> rules will not be loaded.  Of course, that wouldn't matter to an attacker.
> 
> If spamassassin had given me a warning from the loadplugin line in my 
> user_conf instead of:
> 
> debug: config: read file /home/stuart/.spamassassin/user_prefs
> debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC
> debug: plugin: registered 
> Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa14a0d8)
> 
> Then it would have been quite obvious what the problem was.
> 

Are you sure it isn't just in your init.pre file?

Michael


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Re: Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Stuart Johnston
Matt Kettler wrote:
At 05:04 PM 12/17/2004, Stuart Johnston wrote:
I have been having a difficult time getting URIDNSBL to work and I 
finally figured out why.  I was trying to do the loadplugin in a 
user_prefs file in order to test out a new configuration.

The problem is that the builtin plugins can not be enabled from 
user_prefs because the default rules (25_uribl.cf, etc) will be run 
earlier and contain ifplugin conditionals.  When the plugin is loaded 
by user_prefs it will be too late and the rules will never get loaded.

I can see equal arguments for this being considered a feature or a bug 
so I mention it mostly in case it helps someone else avoid the 
frustration that it caused me.

personally, consider it a very severe, server security compromising bug 
if user_prefs COULD load a plugin Remember.. plugins are perl code 
loaded into SA. They can do anything a perl program can, should they 
care to And the loadplugin command can load *any* perl code anywhere 
on the system if you specify a path...

This particular behavior is pretty well documented in the manpage for 
Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf.. loadplugin is listed in the "Administrator 
Settings" section.. With the following header:

ADMINISTRATOR SETTINGS

These settings differ from the ones above, in that they are considered 
'more privileged' -- even more than the ones in the PRIVILEGED 
SETTINGS section. No matter what allow_user_rules is set to, these can 
never be set from a user's user_prefs file.

In general everything in that section could be abused by a user to gain 
privileges as some other user, or facilitate DoS attacks on SA. Hence, 
why they aren't allowed in user_prefs.. ever.

I certainly don't disagree with the security problems with allowing 
users to load plugins.  The problem is that in fact, user_conf CAN load 
a plugin and does quite certainly execute its code, despite what the 
documentation says.  It just doesn't do any good because the default 
rules will not be loaded.  Of course, that wouldn't matter to an attacker.

If spamassassin had given me a warning from the loadplugin line in my 
user_conf instead of:

debug: config: read file /home/stuart/.spamassassin/user_prefs
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC
debug: plugin: registered 
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa14a0d8)

Then it would have been quite obvious what the problem was.
Stuart Johnston


Re: Bayes still not working

2004-12-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 03:08:24PM -0500, shane mullins wrote:
[...]
> debug: bayes: 23576 tie-ing to DB file R/O
> /var/amavisd/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
> debug: bayes: 23576 tie-ing to DB file R/O
> /var/amavisd/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
> debug: bayes: found bayes db version 3
> debug: Score set 3 chosen.
[...]

Ok, Bayes DB is available.

[...]
> debug: bayes corpus size: nspam = 11217, nham = 3106
> debug: tokenize: header tokens for *F = "U*ignore
> D*compiling.spamassassin.taint.org D*spamassassin.taint.org D*taint.org
> D*org"
> debug: tokenize: header tokens for *m = "  1103315695 lint_rules "
> debug: tokenize: header tokens for *RT = " "
> debug: tokenize: header tokens for *RU = " "
> debug: bayes token 'H*Ad:D*org' => 0.0105036777313484
> debug: bayes token 'somewhat' => 0.0315481378182374
> debug: bayes token 'H*F:D*org' => 0.132108368706952
> debug: bayes token 'message' => 0.144404929302356
> debug: bayes: score = 0.00188593021767242
> debug: bayes: 23576 untie-ing
> debug: bayes: 23576 untie-ing db_toks
> debug: bayes: 23576 untie-ing db_seen
[...]

Ok, Bayes only finds 4 tokens in common between message and header.  Based on
that, the messages gets a 0.00188 probability.

[...]
> debug: tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_HEADERS,MISSING_SUBJECT,NO_REAL_NAME
> debug:
> subtests=__HAS_MSGID,__MSGID_OK_DIGITS,__MSGID_OK_HOST,__SANE_MSGID,__UN
> USABLE_MSGID
[...]

Message registers a BAYES_00 hit.

> Everything looks like a go, except I get no Bayes output.  Any ideas?

??  What kind of Bayes output are you expecting?  The debug output shows it's
working fine.

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 if they're true.
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Re: Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:04 PM 12/17/2004, Stuart Johnston wrote:
I have been having a difficult time getting URIDNSBL to work and I finally 
figured out why.  I was trying to do the loadplugin in a user_prefs file 
in order to test out a new configuration.

The problem is that the builtin plugins can not be enabled from user_prefs 
because the default rules (25_uribl.cf, etc) will be run earlier and 
contain ifplugin conditionals.  When the plugin is loaded by user_prefs it 
will be too late and the rules will never get loaded.

I can see equal arguments for this being considered a feature or a bug so 
I mention it mostly in case it helps someone else avoid the frustration 
that it caused me.
personally, consider it a very severe, server security compromising bug if 
user_prefs COULD load a plugin Remember.. plugins are perl code loaded 
into SA. They can do anything a perl program can, should they care to 
And the loadplugin command can load *any* perl code anywhere on the system 
if you specify a path...

This particular behavior is pretty well documented in the manpage for 
Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf.. loadplugin is listed in the "Administrator 
Settings" section.. With the following header:

ADMINISTRATOR SETTINGS

These settings differ from the ones above, in that they are considered 
'more privileged' -- even more than the ones in the PRIVILEGED SETTINGS 
section. No matter what allow_user_rules is set to, these can never be set 
from a user's user_prefs file.

In general everything in that section could be abused by a user to gain 
privileges as some other user, or facilitate DoS attacks on SA. Hence, why 
they aren't allowed in user_prefs.. ever.



Bayes still not working

2004-12-17 Thread shane mullins
I am still not getting any Bayes entries in my maillog.We are
running: OpenBSD 3.5, SA 3.0.2, amavisd-new, dcc and razor.   With the
following info provided, does anyone have any ideas?  I could provide
more details if needed.

Here is my local.cf  references to Bayes:
use_bayes 1
bayes_auto_learn 1

bayes_path /var/amavisd/.spamassassin/bayes

When I run spamassassin -D --lint here is the output:


# spamassassin -D --lint
debug: SpamAssassin version 3.0.2
debug: Score set 0 chosen.
debug: running in taint mode? yes
debug: Running in taint mode, removing unsafe env vars, and resetting
PATH
debug: PATH included '/sbin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/usr/sbin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/bin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/usr/bin', keeping.
debug: Final PATH set to: /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
debug: diag: module not installed: DBI ('require' failed)
debug: diag: module installed: DB_File, version 1.807
debug: diag: module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.10
debug: diag: module installed: IO::Socket::UNIX, version 1.21
debug: diag: module installed: MIME::Base64, version 3.05
debug: diag: module installed: Net::DNS, version 0.48
debug: diag: module not installed: Net::LDAP ('require' failed)
debug: diag: module installed: Razor2::Client::Agent, version 2.61
debug: diag: module installed: Storable, version 2.08
debug: diag: module installed: URI, version 1.34
debug: ignore: using a test message to lint rules
debug: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre" for site rules init.pre
debug: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
debug: using "/usr/local/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
debug: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_anti_ratware.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
debug: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
debug: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_body_tests_es.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_hashcash.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_spf.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_uribl.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf
debug: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin" for site rules dir
debug: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
debug: using "/root/.spamassassin" for user state dir
debug: using "/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs" for user prefs file
debug: config: read file /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x3c3ee924)
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash from @INC
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x3cba8bc0)
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF from @INC
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x3cb88308)
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x3c3ee924)
implements 'parse_config'
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x3cba8bc0)
implements 'parse_config'
debug: bayes: 23576 tie-ing to DB file R/O
/var/amavisd/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
debug: bayes: 23576 tie-ing to DB file R/O
/var/amavisd/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
debug: bayes: found bayes db version 3
debug: Score set 3 chosen.
debug:  MIME PARSER START 
debug: main message type: text/plain
debug: parsing normal part
debug: added part, type: text/plain
debug:  MIME PARSER END 
debug: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Trusted:
debug: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted:
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x3c3ee924)
implements 'parsed_metadata'
debug: dns_available set to yes in config file, skipping test
debug: decoding: no encoding detected
debug: UR

Re: MIT Spam conference

2004-12-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 04:39:49PM -0500, Chris Santerre wrote:
> Is anyone else planning on attending?

Already registered. :)

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Plugins Can't be Enabled by Users

2004-12-17 Thread Stuart Johnston
I have been having a difficult time getting URIDNSBL to work and I 
finally figured out why.  I was trying to do the loadplugin in a 
user_prefs file in order to test out a new configuration.

The problem is that the builtin plugins can not be enabled from 
user_prefs because the default rules (25_uribl.cf, etc) will be run 
earlier and contain ifplugin conditionals.  When the plugin is loaded by 
user_prefs it will be too late and the rules will never get loaded.

I can see equal arguments for this being considered a feature or a bug 
so I mention it mostly in case it helps someone else avoid the 
frustration that it caused me.

Stuart Johnston


spamd and blacklist issue

2004-12-17 Thread Colin E. McDonald
We are running SA under spamd (Version 3). My mail logs 
indicate a server is being blocked by dnsbl.sorbs.net but when I check their 
database it is not listed. I added their domain name under whitelists in 
local.cf and restarted spamd but it doesn't see to help. Does anyone have 
suggestions. I submitted a ticket to sorbs regarding this but who knows when 
that will be answered.
 
Gracias.
 
Colin

Re: MIT Spam conference

2004-12-17 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote:
-Original Message-
From: William Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:53 PM
To: ML-spamassassin-talk; ml-surbl-discuss
Cc: William Stearns
Subject: MIT Spam conference
Good day, all,
	I'll be attending the MIT spam conference this year, Jan 21st, 
9-5.  Details at http://www.spamconference.org/ .  The registration is 
free, but they suggest an early registration before the 
conference fills 
up.
	I'd love a chance to meet other people working on 
spamassassin and 
surbl.  Is anyone else planning on attending?
	Cheers,
	- Bill

All registered. Unless we get some meltdown here, or my car feezes on the
way like last year, I'll be there! However, being a ninja, you won't see me!
:)  J/K, my goal is to get my eyeball as close to the webcast camera. Just
so when I come home I can DL the movie and say "There is my eyeball"
Do we get to bring air horns?
haha feeze?
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/feeze
;)
Hey lemme know when your getting close to the camera, i wanna check it 
out too!

-Jim


RE: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Chris Santerre
>
>Also, this mail was sent via PowerMTA, which appears to be a tool of
>choice for spammers.  I've created a rule for this, should this be a
>standard rule?

Could be a fish. But I wanted to comment on the PowerMTA. It is a legit
mailerHOWEVER it is often used by spammers. I also have a local rule to
add a few points for this mailer. However SARE tested and found that it
wasn't worth the FP rate. So I would not make it a standard rule. But people
should consider writing a local rule for it, and salt the score to taste. 

--Chris


RE: MIT Spam conference

2004-12-17 Thread Chris Santerre


>-Original Message-
>From: William Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:53 PM
>To: ML-spamassassin-talk; ml-surbl-discuss
>Cc: William Stearns
>Subject: MIT Spam conference
>
>
>Good day, all,
>   I'll be attending the MIT spam conference this year, Jan 21st, 
>9-5.  Details at http://www.spamconference.org/ .  The registration is 
>free, but they suggest an early registration before the 
>conference fills 
>up.
>   I'd love a chance to meet other people working on 
>spamassassin and 
>surbl.  Is anyone else planning on attending?
>   Cheers,
>   - Bill

All registered. Unless we get some meltdown here, or my car feezes on the
way like last year, I'll be there! However, being a ninja, you won't see me!
:)  J/K, my goal is to get my eyeball as close to the webcast camera. Just
so when I come home I can DL the movie and say "There is my eyeball"

Do we get to bring air horns?

Chris Santerre 
System Admin and SARE/SURBL Ninja
http://www.rulesemporium.com
http://www.surbl.org
'It is not the strongest of the species that survives,
not the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.'
Charles Darwin 


RE: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Gary W. Smith
Looks like the first attempts at some phishing.  The domain name and
everything look like NCR BUT the DNS servers are NCRWEBHOST.COM with
what looks like a bogus email address for admin contract.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: Michael Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:27 PM
To: SpamAssassin Users
Subject: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

All,

Does anyone have an opinion of the mail below?  To me it looks like
deceptive marketing practice where the people at equifaxmktg.com are
trying to validate emails or something.  The scary thing is that
equifaxmktg.com appears to be a division of NCR.

I guess its common knowledge that Equifax is pretty much a spam company
in disguise a credit company.  But I was under the assumption that NCR
was a real company.

Any opinions on this?

Also, this mail was sent via PowerMTA, which appears to be a tool of
choice for spammers.  I've created a rule for this, should this be a
standard rule?

Mike


- Forwarded message from Equifax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Dec 17 13:02:51 2004
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from a.machine.here (a.machine.here [xxx.xxx.x.xx])
by another.machine.here (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id
iBHI2pH13385
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:51 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ncr2249.ncr2249 (mail244.ncrecommerce.com
[153.69.128.244])
by a.machine.here (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBHI2lfA027614
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:47 -0500
Received: by ncr2249.ncr2249 (PowerMTA(TM) v3.0r7) id hocfje0721cv; Fri,
17 Dec 2004 13:02:23 -0500 (envelope-from +<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
X-BPS1: 12303
X-BPS2: 1
Reply-To: "Equifax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Equifax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: *SPAM* (score=16.2/10.0) Equifax Holiday Fun
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:22 -0500
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="=_NextPart_000_F87B3_01C4E438.A5E2C420"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Thread-Index: AcTkYo62jLoTmpSWTqaVFYSBB7UXaw==
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-Spam-Prev-Subject: Equifax Holiday Fun
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on mymachine
X-Spam-Report:
*  1.0 NO_SPACE_IN_FRM No space in from between quotes
*  0.2 EXTRA_SUBJ_SPACES Subject with extra spaces in it (2)
*  0.0 HTML_WEB_BUGS BODY: Image tag intended to identify you
*  0.1 HTML_80_90 BODY: Message is 80% to 90% HTML
*  0.1 HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_06 BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to
*  image area
*  0.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60%
*  [score: 0.5039]
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  0.3 DCC_CHECK Listed in DCC
(http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
*  3.1 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [153.69.128.244 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
*  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL
*  blocklist
*  [URIs: equifaxmktg.com]
*  3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL
*  blocklist
*  [URIs: ncrpmreports.com equifaxmktg.com]
*  0.7 FRM_NOT_TWO_WORDS From does not have 2 words in it
*  5.9 SCORE_CORRECTION Correction for multiple positive test
*  scores
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=16.2 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_50,DCC_CHECK,
 
EXTRA_SUBJ_SPACES,FRM_NOT_TWO_WORDS,HTML_80_90,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_06,
HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_WEB_BUGS,NO_SPACE_IN_FRM,RCVD_IN_XBL,
SCORE_CORRECTION,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL autolearn=no
version=3.0.1
X-Spam-Level: 
Status: RO
Content-Length: 6137
Lines: 126


Happy Holidays! Thank You!


You're an important Equifax customer. We appreciate you and want to pass
on some holiday fun to you. Take a look at our holiday card for some
holiday cheer. 
http://equifaxmktg.com/equifax/redirect.asp?lid=1051267&o=1&eid=OneOfMyL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


If you have any questions, please call us at 1-800-829-3616, 8:00AM -
3:00AM (EST), 7 days a week.  You may e-mail us anytime at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Or you can write us: Equifax Consumer
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Click below to unsubscribe from future mailings.
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Re: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Jim Maul
Justin Mason wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Michael Barnes writes:
All,
Does anyone have an opinion of the mail below?  To me it looks like
deceptive marketing practice where the people at equifaxmktg.com are
trying to validate emails or something.  The scary thing is that
equifaxmktg.com appears to be a division of NCR.
I guess its common knowledge that Equifax is pretty much a spam company
in disguise a credit company.  But I was under the assumption that NCR
was a real company.
Any opinions on this?

I think Equifax used to do e-pending; not sure if they still do.   I
haven't heard anything bad about them in a while.

Also, this mail was sent via PowerMTA, which appears to be a tool of
choice for spammers.  I've created a rule for this, should this be a
standard rule?

PowerMTA is actually a generic MTA app for MacOS, if I recall correctly.
we *had* a rule and removed it due to a high false positive rate.

http://www.port25.com/products/prod_index.html
Looks pretty legit to me.
-Jim


Re: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Justin Mason
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Michael Barnes writes:
> All,
> 
> Does anyone have an opinion of the mail below?  To me it looks like
> deceptive marketing practice where the people at equifaxmktg.com are
> trying to validate emails or something.  The scary thing is that
> equifaxmktg.com appears to be a division of NCR.
> 
> I guess its common knowledge that Equifax is pretty much a spam company
> in disguise a credit company.  But I was under the assumption that NCR
> was a real company.
> 
> Any opinions on this?

I think Equifax used to do e-pending; not sure if they still do.   I
haven't heard anything bad about them in a while.

> Also, this mail was sent via PowerMTA, which appears to be a tool of
> choice for spammers.  I've created a rule for this, should this be a
> standard rule?

PowerMTA is actually a generic MTA app for MacOS, if I recall correctly.
we *had* a rule and removed it due to a high false positive rate.

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MIT Spam conference

2004-12-17 Thread William Stearns
Good day, all,
	I'll be attending the MIT spam conference this year, Jan 21st, 
9-5.  Details at http://www.spamconference.org/ .  The registration is 
free, but they suggest an early registration before the conference fills 
up.
	I'd love a chance to meet other people working on spamassassin and 
surbl.  Is anyone else planning on attending?
	Cheers,
	- Bill

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RE: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Kang, Joseph S.
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:27 PM
> To: SpamAssassin Users
> Subject: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Does anyone have an opinion of the mail below?  To me it 
> looks like deceptive marketing practice where the people at 
> equifaxmktg.com are trying to validate emails or something.  
> The scary thing is that equifaxmktg.com appears to be a 
> division of NCR.
> 
> I guess its common knowledge that Equifax is pretty much a 
> spam company in disguise a credit company.  But I was under 
> the assumption that NCR was a real company.
> 
> Any opinions on this?
> 

Well, NCR eCommerce is a legit division of NCR
(http://www.ncrecommerce.com/ncrecommerce/default.htm).

I guess this is one of those "one person's spam is another's ham"
situations.  If it were a message sent to me, I would consider it spam
because I am not a subscriber to Equifax's service(s).  

I always thought Equifax was one of the credit reporting agencies.  They're
involved in more than that?

You could always go through the unsubscribe link and unsubscribe but also do
whatever is necessary for your SA install to mark any further messages from
them as SPAM.

Just my $0.02.

HTH.

Joe K.


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Jon,
you should upgrade Net::DNS.  it won't hurt anything and it will make 
your RBL checks work.  on my system, i ran some statistics, and the 
SURBL checks are responsible for catching 90% of the spam.
okay, I will try to do so!
Florian


Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Michael Barnes
All,

Does anyone have an opinion of the mail below?  To me it looks like
deceptive marketing practice where the people at equifaxmktg.com are
trying to validate emails or something.  The scary thing is that
equifaxmktg.com appears to be a division of NCR.

I guess its common knowledge that Equifax is pretty much a spam company
in disguise a credit company.  But I was under the assumption that NCR
was a real company.

Any opinions on this?

Also, this mail was sent via PowerMTA, which appears to be a tool of
choice for spammers.  I've created a rule for this, should this be a
standard rule?

Mike


- Forwarded message from Equifax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Dec 17 13:02:51 2004
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from a.machine.here (a.machine.here [xxx.xxx.x.xx])
by another.machine.here (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id iBHI2pH13385
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:51 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ncr2249.ncr2249 (mail244.ncrecommerce.com [153.69.128.244])
by a.machine.here (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBHI2lfA027614
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:47 -0500
Received: by ncr2249.ncr2249 (PowerMTA(TM) v3.0r7) id hocfje0721cv; Fri, 17 Dec 
2004 13:02:23 -0500 (envelope-from +<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
X-BPS1: 12303
X-BPS2: 1
Reply-To: "Equifax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Equifax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: *SPAM* (score=16.2/10.0) Equifax Holiday Fun
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:22 -0500
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="=_NextPart_000_F87B3_01C4E438.A5E2C420"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Thread-Index: AcTkYo62jLoTmpSWTqaVFYSBB7UXaw==
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-Spam-Prev-Subject: Equifax Holiday Fun
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on mymachine
X-Spam-Report:
*  1.0 NO_SPACE_IN_FRM No space in from between quotes
*  0.2 EXTRA_SUBJ_SPACES Subject with extra spaces in it (2)
*  0.0 HTML_WEB_BUGS BODY: Image tag intended to identify you
*  0.1 HTML_80_90 BODY: Message is 80% to 90% HTML
*  0.1 HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_06 BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to
*  image area
*  0.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60%
*  [score: 0.5039]
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  0.3 DCC_CHECK Listed in DCC (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
*  3.1 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [153.69.128.244 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
*  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL
*  blocklist
*  [URIs: equifaxmktg.com]
*  3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL
*  blocklist
*  [URIs: ncrpmreports.com equifaxmktg.com]
*  0.7 FRM_NOT_TWO_WORDS From does not have 2 words in it
*  5.9 SCORE_CORRECTION Correction for multiple positive test
*  scores
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=16.2 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_50,DCC_CHECK,
EXTRA_SUBJ_SPACES,FRM_NOT_TWO_WORDS,HTML_80_90,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_06,
HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_WEB_BUGS,NO_SPACE_IN_FRM,RCVD_IN_XBL,
SCORE_CORRECTION,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL autolearn=no
version=3.0.1
X-Spam-Level: 
Status: RO
Content-Length: 6137
Lines: 126


Happy Holidays! Thank You!


You're an important Equifax customer. We appreciate you and want to pass on 
some holiday fun to you. Take a look at our holiday card for some holiday 
cheer. 
http://equifaxmktg.com/equifax/redirect.asp?lid=1051267&o=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED]


If you have any questions, please call us at 1-800-829-3616, 8:00AM - 3:00AM 
(EST), 7 days a week.  You may e-mail us anytime at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Or you 
can write us: Equifax Consumer Services, Inc. PO Box 105496, Atlanta, GA  30348.

Click below to unsubscribe from future mailings.
http://equifaxmktg.com/equifax/redirect.asp?lid=1051268&o=1&[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&DATI=evLVYy4d%2Bx27Uxndjx8MHAxPIV5xvK%2x0


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not to be outdone! Funny pic!

2004-12-17 Thread Chris Santerre
http://www.fattonyracing.com/neoimages/funny/noninjascopy.jpg

We need a place for our pimp ninja rides!

--Chris


Filtering unknown Charset

2004-12-17 Thread Warren Robinson
Is there any way of filtering out unknown charsets as in the examples below:-


A936ADD5A146DE8ECF3
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-61FC-B"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8FCB-F"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Lately we have receiving spam with randon generated iso- ? sets.
Thanks



Re: SPAM word in subject isnt removed

2004-12-17 Thread Evan Platt
Zé said:
> I use kmail 1.7.2 (kde-3.3.2) and the spam rule puts in the subject the
> word
> SPAM and is i click to HAM this same email, it does not do anything and
> doenst remove the word SPAM of the good email that was considered spam.

That's probably a question better asked on a kmail list if no one here can
help.

> ANy help to remove the word SPAM in subject and why a good email is
> considered spam?

Would help to post the headers and the SpamAssassin score / rules hit on
the message so someone could determine why it was marked as Spam.
Otherwise people are only guessing.




rule based on mime version header

2004-12-17 Thread Eric Fagan
Hello,
I've noticed an interesting ratware pattern in the Mime-Version field 
that uses "produced by" and then a combination of two random words and a 
random version number. Here are a few examples:

MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by nightgownbunyan 8.2)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by lamellartramway 0.6)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by contradictoryforest 9.8)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by stanfordprotrusion 0.4)
The "produced by" mime version google hits seem to be the spam tool 
above, and:

MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by Synapse)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by MetaSend Vx.x)
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Produced by PhpWiki 1.3.x
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Produced by Tiki)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by IP*Works! www.dev-soft.com)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (Produced by HUB e-mail engine)
After removing these valid types, only the spam sigs seems to remain:  
(google search)
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G10A12D0A

These programs do not use the same versioning style as the spam tool.  I 
don't have a ham/spam corpus to test against but I've ran the rule below 
for 24 hours and gotten 140 matches with no FP.  More than half of the 
messages matched on RATWARE_RCVD_AT; all of them matched on 
MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS.

header  MIME_VER_RATTY   Mime-Version =~ /^1\.0 \(produced 
by [a-z]{1,20} [0-9]\.[0-9]\)$/
describeMIME_VER_RATTY   Ratware sig found in mime type
score   MIME_VER_RATTY   0.0001

The hits occured on approx 1% of messages passed though the SA server.
Risks:  There may possibly be a 'produced by' sig I haven't seen though 
google searches, or someone may create a matching sig on valid software 
in the future. 

I think that when checked in conjunction with MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS, this 
could create a higher confidence ratware rule.  However, I'm concerned 
about making checks that identify things already caught by other methods 
-- it seems redudant & bloaty.  Thoughts?

--eric


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Jon Drukman
Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Rakesh,
Well i cannot help much in your problem apart from saying what Jeff 
had said earlier, that you need to upgrade some of your Perl modules.

the problem is that I run on a Debian 3.0 system that has older Perl 
modules. :-)
you should upgrade Net::DNS.  it won't hurt anything and it will make 
your RBL checks work.  on my system, i ran some statistics, and the 
SURBL checks are responsible for catching 90% of the spam.

perl -MCPAN -e 'install Net::DNS'


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi,
This is a known issue, see bug 4007.
Thanks for pointing on that!
Translators wanted, if you can help bring translated descriptions down
below the 50 character mark please feel free to open a bug and attach
the translations.
Unfortunately, absolutely no time. :-( Otherwise I'd do it.
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Bowie,
As far as I know, the module lookup is a function of the Perl install.
In order to keep your current stuff along with the new stuff, you
would need a second install of Perl.
Why do you want to keep the old modules?  I can understand not wanting
to upgrade Perl itself, but unless you've got something that relies on
Net::DNS that you are worried about breaking, I'd say just upgrade
them.
I don't want to interfere with Debians packages. In amavisd-new, I 
installed the packages manually with

perl Makefile.PL LIB=/usr/local/share/amavisd-new 
PREFIX=/usr/local/share/amavisd-new

I modified the amavisd-new binary with
use lib qw(/usr/local/share/amavisd-new);
and it works.,
Florian


SPAM word in subject isnt removed

2004-12-17 Thread
I use kmail 1.7.2 (kde-3.3.2) and the spam rule puts in the subject the word 
SPAM and is i click to HAM this same email, it does not do anything and 
doenst remove the word SPAM of the good email that was considered spam.

ANy help to remove the word SPAM in subject and why a good email is considered 
spam?

cheers,
Zé


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Michael Parker
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 04:24:11PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> 
> >I guess the thing to do is move the de stuff out of the directory and 
> >run the --lint againif it passes without the 50 characters error 
> >then that's the issue.
> 
> thanks, that worked! The file is the culprit for the lint error message. 
> Have filed a bug report (#4040, closed #4038).
> 

This is a known issue, see bug 4007.

It is not fatal, and just a warning during --lint.

Translators wanted, if you can help bring translated descriptions down
below the 50 character mark please feel free to open a bug and attach
the translations.

Michael


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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth
Florian
I guess the thing to do is move the de stuff out of the directory and 
run the --lint againif it passes without the 50 characters error 
then that's the issue.

--
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Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Martin,
how did you install SA - source, CPAN, or apt?

Source.
pick one with a rule in it that SA complains about in the 
"spamassassin -D --lint". They are 'text' files so you can grep the 
rule names.

warning: description for PORN_URL_SEX is over 50 chars
# grep -r "PORN_URL_SEX" /usr/local/share/spamassassin/*
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf:uri PORN_URL_SEX 
 /^https?:\/\/[\w\.-]*(?
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf:describe PORN_URL_SEX  URL uses 
words/phrases which indicate porn (sex)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf:lang de describe 
PORN_URL_SEX Worte/Phrasen in URL weisen auf Pornographie hin (sex)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf:score PORN_URL_SEX 1.865 
1.427 1.817 0.011

20_porn.cf:
# SpamAssassin rules file: porn tests
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# Note: body tests are run with long lines, so be sure to limit the
# size of searches; use /.{0,30}/ instead of /.*/ to avoid huge
# search times.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
require_version 3.02
30_text_de.cf:
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
# character set used in the following texts (no need for iso-8859-15)
lang de report_charset iso-8859-1
50_scores.cf:
# SpamAssassin score file
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
# Default scores.   Note that if a test is named in the files, but a 
score is
# not assigned here, the default score will be set to 1.

# The following block of scores were generated using the mass-checking
# scripts, and a perceptron to determine the optimum scores which
# resulted in minimum false positives or negatives.  The scores are
# weighted to produce roughly 1 false positive in 2500 non-spam messages
# using the default threshold of 5.0.
# Start of generated scores.  
Looks good, hm?
Maybe the warning means 30_text_de.cf, which most of you don't use 
because you have English locales?

but you'll get no rbl style tests..

Okay, that's a good point.
Florian
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RE: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Florian Effenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > Network tests like RBL, SURBL, etc. probably won't work unless
> > you upgrade your Net::DNS to something more recent.
> 
> Okay, will try to do that. Anyone knows how I can tell SA to look
> Perl modules up in one additional directory? I don't want to erase
> the Debian package, but instead install the recent version in a
> separate directory and tell SA to use it.

As far as I know, the module lookup is a function of the Perl install.
In order to keep your current stuff along with the new stuff, you
would need a second install of Perl.

Why do you want to keep the old modules?  I can understand not wanting
to upgrade Perl itself, but unless you've got something that relies on
Net::DNS that you are worried about breaking, I'd say just upgrade
them.

$ perl -MCPAN -e shell
cpan> install Net::DNS

That will download and install the current version for you.  You will
be walked through some configuration of the CPAN module if you haven't
used it before.

Bowie


Re: F.P. with SARE rule

2004-12-17 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:18 AM 12/17/2004 -0500, Shawn R. Beairsto wrote:
I just got a F.P. using one of the SARE rulesets, looks like the 
SARE_SUB_PENIS_OB rule might need some tweaking. Seems like it fired from 
the word pennies:
Yep.. it's crap like that that makes me staunchly refuse to use .? as a 
gapping character..

It's really odd that this rule has an antidrug obfu style section AND a .? 
section.. I'd suggest splitting them up. This way the exemption words like 
pennies pencils, etc can all be handled only for the .? based rule.. the 
antidrug style obfu rule uses [\W_]? as a gap, and won't suffer from FPs on 
words like that, but it also won't catch anything obfuscated with 
extra-letter stuffing..





Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Martin,
I guess the thing to do is move the de stuff out of the directory and 
run the --lint againif it passes without the 50 characters error 
then that's the issue.
thanks, that worked! The file is the culprit for the lint error message. 
Have filed a bug report (#4040, closed #4038).

Now -D --lint does not bring up any more error message. So I have to 
check why some spam gets through, and that brings me back to the 
ALL_TRUSTED rule... any ideas? Where can I adjust this?

Thanks!
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Martin,
how did you install SA - source, CPAN, or apt?
Source.
pick one with a rule in it that SA complains about in the "spamassassin 
-D --lint". They are 'text' files so you can grep the rule names.
warning: description for PORN_URL_SEX is over 50 chars
# grep -r "PORN_URL_SEX" /usr/local/share/spamassassin/*
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf:uri PORN_URL_SEX 
 /^https?:\/\/[\w\.-]*(?
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf:describe PORN_URL_SEX 
 URL uses words/phrases which indicate porn (sex)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf:lang de describe 
PORN_URL_SEX Worte/Phrasen in URL weisen auf Pornographie hin (sex)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf:score PORN_URL_SEX 1.865 
1.427 1.817 0.011

20_porn.cf:
# SpamAssassin rules file: porn tests
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# Note: body tests are run with long lines, so be sure to limit the
# size of searches; use /.{0,30}/ instead of /.*/ to avoid huge
# search times.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
require_version 3.02
30_text_de.cf:
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
# character set used in the following texts (no need for iso-8859-15)
lang de report_charset iso-8859-1
50_scores.cf:
# SpamAssassin score file
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
# Default scores.   Note that if a test is named in the files, but a 
score is
# not assigned here, the default score will be set to 1.

# The following block of scores were generated using the mass-checking
# scripts, and a perceptron to determine the optimum scores which
# resulted in minimum false positives or negatives.  The scores are
# weighted to produce roughly 1 false positive in 2500 non-spam messages
# using the default threshold of 5.0.
# Start of generated scores.  
Looks good, hm?
Maybe the warning means 30_text_de.cf, which most of you don't use 
because you have English locales?

but you'll get no rbl style tests..
Okay, that's a good point.
Florian


F.P. with SARE rule

2004-12-17 Thread Shawn R. Beairsto








Good morning everyone,

 

I just got a F.P. using one of the SARE rulesets, looks like
the SARE_SUB_PENIS_OB rule might need some tweaking. Seems like it fired from
the word pennies:

 

Content preview: 
Pennies From Heaven The Daily Reckoning [...] 

 

Content analysis
details:   (7.9 points, 5.0 required)

 

 pts rule
name 
description

 --
--

 3.3 SARE_SUB_PENIS_OB 
subject has obfuscated spammer topic

 1.9
LOW_INTEREST   BODY:
Lower Interest Rates

 1.5
MORTGAGE_BEST  BODY:
Information on mortgages

 1.2
BANG_MORE 
BODY: Talks about more with an exclamation!

 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY:
HTML included in message

 

--

Shawn
Beairsto 
Network
Administrator 
Data
Kinetics Ltd. 
http://www.dkl.com 

 








OT found this and thought of y'all

2004-12-17 Thread ChupaCabra
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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth
Florian
yes I think it's the de locale stuff that's causing the problems. I 
can't believe no-ones come across this before

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Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Martin,
how did you install SA - source, CPAN, or apt?

Source.
pick one with a rule in it that SA complains about in the 
"spamassassin -D --lint". They are 'text' files so you can grep the 
rule names.

warning: description for PORN_URL_SEX is over 50 chars
# grep -r "PORN_URL_SEX" /usr/local/share/spamassassin/*
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf:uri PORN_URL_SEX 
 /^https?:\/\/[\w\.-]*(?
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf:describe PORN_URL_SEX  URL uses 
words/phrases which indicate porn (sex)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf:lang de describe 
PORN_URL_SEX Worte/Phrasen in URL weisen auf Pornographie hin (sex)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf:score PORN_URL_SEX 1.865 
1.427 1.817 0.011

20_porn.cf:
# SpamAssassin rules file: porn tests
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# Note: body tests are run with long lines, so be sure to limit the
# size of searches; use /.{0,30}/ instead of /.*/ to avoid huge
# search times.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
require_version 3.02
30_text_de.cf:
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
# character set used in the following texts (no need for iso-8859-15)
lang de report_charset iso-8859-1
50_scores.cf:
# SpamAssassin score file
#
# Please don't modify this file as your changes will be overwritten with
# the next update. Use /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf instead.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details.
#
# <@LICENSE>
# Copyright 2004 Apache Software Foundation
#
# Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
# you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
# You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
# distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
# WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
# See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
# limitations under the License.
# 
#
###
# Default scores.   Note that if a test is named in the files, but a 
score is
# not assigned here, the default score will be set to 1.

# The following block of scores were generated using the mass-checking
# scripts, and a perceptron to determine the optimum scores which
# resulted in minimum false positives or negatives.  The scores are
# weighted to produce roughly 1 false positive in 2500 non-spam messages
# using the default threshold of 5.0.
# Start of generated scores.  
Looks good, hm?
Maybe the warning means 30_text_de.cf, which most of you don't use 
because you have English locales?

but you'll get no rbl style tests..

Okay, that's a good point.
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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Shane,
To check bayes do spamassassin -D --lint and look for bayes info.
Also, check your logs for BAYES entries.
debug: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
debug: bayes: no dbs present, cannot tie DB R/O:
/root/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
I guess that means, no Bayes running. :-)
I noticed alot of spam that was getting through had invoked the
all_trusted rule.  Which, gives a -3.000 to the final score.  I
disabled this rule, for now at least.
Where do I set the networks that are in all_trusted?
How do I disable this rule?
Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth

Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Martin,
what about the SA, CPAN or apt?

how did you install SA - source, CPAN, or apt?
sorry, I don't understand the question?
Default files look OK.anything in the comments at the top of the 
rule files (the .cf files in /usr/local/share/spamassassin)

Which files to check?
pick one with a rule in it that SA complains about in the "spamassassin 
-D --lint". They are 'text' files so you can grep the rule names.


also your network tests won't work till Net::DNS is at version 0.48...

I still get RAZOR2_CHECK in my headers :)
but you'll get no rbl style tests..
I presume you've stopped amavis-new/spamd etc before you've done all 
this??

Sure.
Florian
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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Rakesh
Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Rakesh,
Well i cannot help much in your problem apart from saying what Jeff 
had said earlier, that you need to upgrade some of your Perl modules.

the problem is that I run on a Debian 3.0 system that has older Perl 
modules. :-)

But I couldn't help my curiosity as to why you have disabled Bayes. I
know you might be having a good reason for doing that, I was just
curious in knowing it.

I want to check out how it works in some time, and then I'll activate 
it. I just disabled it because I did not have the time to look at it. :-)

Florian
Oh wow thts gr8 :-)


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth
Florian
Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Martin,
ok - updayte Ne:DNS to 0.48 (latest) and the URI checking will start 
to kick in...this helps alot..

Okay, will try to do that. Anyone knows how I can tell SA to look Perl 
modules up in one additional directory? I don't want to erase the Debian 
package, but instead install the recent version in a separate directory 
and tell SA to use it.

no idea, not a perl dude.
I'd check the update went OK as alot of these rules are default's so 
they should be fine. they should be in /usr/local/share/spamassassin
I have send in my listing of /usr/local/share/spamassassin a message 
earlier. Does it look okay?
Can't find it in my email system, and gmames search doesn't want to work 
right now... can you repost..


oh and www.spamassassin.org doesn't work, but 
www.spamassassin.apache.org does..

Now all is back online again :)
Florian

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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth
Florian
how did you install - apt or cpan??? Wonders if the apt package is 
confused...

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Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Well is it possible that the above warnings are coming because the cf 
files in /usr/share/spamassassin are that of the old 2.6X version and 
not that of 3.x.

I have tested this by deleting the folders contents and re-installing SA 
- same problem.

Maybe its because of too old Perl modules that this error message occurs?
Thanks
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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth
Florian
what about the SA, CPAN or apt?
Default files look OK.anything in the comments at the top of the 
rule files (the .cf files in /usr/local/share/spamassassin)

also your network tests won't work till Net::DNS is at version 0.48...
I presume you've stopped amavis-new/spamd etc before you've done all this??
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Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Martin,
how did you install - apt or cpan??? Wonders if the apt package is 
confused...

I have installed all Perl modules from APT. Net-Server and libnet are 
manually installed into /usr/local/share/amavisd-new, because I needed 
them for amavisd-new.

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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread shane mullins
To check bayes do spamassassin -D --lint and look for bayes info.  Also,
check your logs for BAYES entries.  I noticed alot of spam that was
getting through had invoked the all_trusted rule.  Which, gives a -3.000
to the final score.  I disabled this rule, for now at least.

Hope this helps,

Shane




- Original Message - 
From: "Florian Effenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Shane Mullins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x


> Hi Shane,
>
> > I had a similar prob.  Check to make sure Bayes is working.  Also,
check
> > the all trusted rule.
>
> How can I check that? GTUBE?
>
> Thanks
> Florian




Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi,
Your install files ;)
Yup. :)
And the active rulesets.
Exactly.
Could be. Some perl modules like Net::DNS are known to give issues, when 
using a older version. So you could do a checkup on that also.
I have filed a bug report, ID 4038.
Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi!
Locate .cf will show them i guess ;)

/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/masses/mass-check.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/30_text_pl.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
Your install files ;)
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
And the active rulesets.
Looks good, hm?
What do you think about the following theory: Some Perl modules don't work 
with SA 3.x as they are too old. Thus, some tests (particularly those with 
the warning in debug output) don't work. Thus, spam gets through. D'accord?
Could be. Some perl modules like Net::DNS are known to give issues, when 
using a older version. So you could do a checkup on that also.

Bye,
Raymond.


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Martin,
what about the SA, CPAN or apt?
sorry, I don't understand the question?
Default files look OK.anything in the comments at the top of the 
rule files (the .cf files in /usr/local/share/spamassassin)
Which files to check?
also your network tests won't work till Net::DNS is at version 0.48...
I still get RAZOR2_CHECK in my headers :)
I presume you've stopped amavis-new/spamd etc before you've done all this??
Sure.
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Loren,
Hi Raymond,
Locate .cf will show them i guess ;)
Relevant occurrences:
/root/libnet-1.19/libnet.cfg
/root/libnet-1.19/blib/lib/Net/libnet.cfg
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/masses/mass-check.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/30_text_pl.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/regression_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/23_bayes.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/10_misc.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/30_text_nl.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_meta_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_body_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/50_scores.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_uri_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/local.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/30_text_de.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_compensate.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_html_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_ratware.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/60_whitelist.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_drugs.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_porn.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/25_hashcash.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_phrases.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_head_tests.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/25_uribl.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/30_text_fr.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/25_body_tests_es.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/20_anti_ratware.cf
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/rules/25_spf.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_anti_ratware.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_body_tests_es.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_hashcash.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_spf.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_uribl.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf
/usr/local/share/amavisd-new/Net/libnet.cfg
/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
Looks good, hm?
What do you think about the following theory: Some Perl modules don't 
work with SA 3.x as they are too old. Thus, some tests (particularly 
those with the warning in debug output) don't work. Thus, spam gets 
through. D'accord?

Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Shane,
I had a similar prob.  Check to make sure Bayes is working.  Also, check 
the all trusted rule.
How can I check that? GTUBE?
Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi!
somewhere that is pointing to the 2.6 install, and SA is finding the rules
there, rather than in the new directory where you installed.
What "locate" string could I use to locate SA rules?
Locate .cf will show them i guess ;)
Bye,
Raymond.


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Loren,
I don't think so, but perhaps possible.  I think more likely you have a path
somewhere that is pointing to the 2.6 install, and SA is finding the rules
there, rather than in the new directory where you installed.
What "locate" string could I use to locate SA rules?
Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Martin,
how did you install - apt or cpan??? Wonders if the apt package is 
confused...
I have installed all Perl modules from APT. Net-Server and libnet are 
manually installed into /usr/local/share/amavisd-new, because I needed 
them for amavisd-new.

Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Loren,
From a quick scan of that, it looks like you have a somewhat messed up
install.  You shouldn't be getting those over-length warnings on the
standard rules for 3.0.  This makes me believe that somehow it is maybe
finding your 2.6x rules, which will give this sort of error.
I did a updatedb and then a locate spamassassin which leads to:
/root/.spamassassin
/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/spamassassin.raw
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/spamassassin.spec
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/blib/man1/spamassassin.1p
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/blib/script/spamassassin
/root/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.2/spamassassin
/usr/local/share/spamassassin
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_anti_ratware.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_body_tests_es.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_hashcash.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_spf.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_uribl.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/user_prefs.template
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/triplets.txt
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/languages
/usr/local/bin/spamassassin
/usr/local/man/man1/spamassassin.1p
/etc/init.d/spamassassin
/etc/default/spamassassin
/etc/rc0.d/K20spamassassin
/etc/rc1.d/K20spamassassin
/etc/rc2.d/S20spamassassin
/etc/rc3.d/S20spamassassin
/etc/rc4.d/S20spamassassin
/etc/rc5.d/S20spamassassin
/etc/rc6.d/K20spamassassin
/etc/mail/spamassassin
/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
/var/amavis/.spamassassin
/var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
/var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
/var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes_journal
/var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes.mutex
Looks good, doesn't it?
Did you replace the 2.6x install, or do a new install in parallel?  If in
parallel, there must be some paths here and there in scripts or the like
that need to be cleaned up to point to the new install.  If you installed
over the 2.6x stuff, maybe you need to throw it away and do a clean install
of 3.0 to get rid of the older rules.
I just did a cleanup and re-installed 3.0.2, but the problem persists. :-(
What "locate" string could I use to locate SA rules?
Also, it notes down at the bottom that you need to get a newer version of
Net::DNS from Cpan.  You will need this to enable the network tests.  There
are a few notes about network tests failing for lack of a socket.  While I
don't know for sure, this could be related to Net::DNS.
Network tests seem to work, as I have RAZOR2 scores in my msgs.
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Martin,
Can't find it in my email system, and gmames search doesn't want to work 
right now... can you repost..
of course!
insgesamt 576
-rw-r--r--1 root staff6018 17. Dez 11:21 10_misc.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff1605 17. Dez 11:21 20_anti_ratware.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff8198 17. Dez 11:21 20_body_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff1613 17. Dez 11:21 20_compensate.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   12083 17. Dez 11:21 20_dnsbl_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   15700 17. Dez 11:21 20_drugs.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   11268 17. Dez 11:21 
20_fake_helo_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   27711 17. Dez 11:21 20_head_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   15487 17. Dez 11:21 20_html_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   10939 17. Dez 11:21 20_meta_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   22099 17. Dez 11:21 20_phrases.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff4966 17. Dez 11:21 20_porn.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   14139 17. Dez 11:21 20_ratware.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff5032 17. Dez 11:21 20_uri_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff2334 17. Dez 11:21 23_bayes.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff9117 17. Dez 11:21 25_body_tests_es.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff2738 17. Dez 11:21 25_hashcash.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff2304 17. Dez 11:21 25_spf.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff4703 17. Dez 11:21 25_uribl.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   52293 17. Dez 11:21 30_text_de.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   40682 17. Dez 11:21 30_text_fr.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   57934 17. Dez 11:21 30_text_nl.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   34803 17. Dez 11:21 30_text_pl.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   29378 17. Dez 11:21 50_scores.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff6887 17. Dez 11:21 60_whitelist.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root staff  101479 17. Dez 11:21 languages
-rw-r--r--1 root staff   18944 17. Dez 11:21 triplets.txt
-rw-r--r--1 root staff1557 17. Dez 11:21 user_prefs.template

Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Shane Mullins
I had a similar prob.  Check to make sure Bayes is working.  Also, check the 
all trusted rule.

Shane
- Original Message - 
From: "Florian Effenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:44 AM
Subject: more spam gets through since SA 3.x


Hello fellow SA users,
maybe it is a pure coincidence that I receive more spam, but I have the
feeling that more spam gets through since SA 3.x.
When I look at the untagged spam, it often has only a rating of 1.6 or
3.0, although it looks clearly like spam. In SA 2.x, I had a threshold
of 7, now I've lowered it to 6, but there is still more spam getting
through now.
Has anything changed I might have overlooked? I run SA through 
amavisd-new.

Thanks
Florian 



Learning from forwarded messages

2004-12-17 Thread Hans du Plooy
Hello all,

I stuck with the problem that incorrectly tagged mail to a dedicated "spam" 
and "non-spam" mailbox, now comes from the user, seeing as outlook strips out 
pretty much every useful header.   I went through the archives and came upon 
a script (included below) posted by Ryan Moore.   Ryan, care to explain how 
you use it?  I tried running the script with the spam mail as input, but it 
doesn't seem to do anything.

Has anybody found an elegant solution for this problem?  The clients are 
outlook, and I've seen many a outlook break badly if you try to ad an imap 
account to it, so I'm not keen on trying that (even though imap is the best 
solution - proven in our office where we use kmail/evolution).

Thanks

http://h0b0.net/salearn.txt

#!/bin/bash
sed -e'/^Content-Type: message\/rfc822;/N;s/\n *name="\([^"]*\)"/\n 
name="spamtmporig.eml"/' > /tmp/spamtmp.eml
cd /tmp
mkdir spamtmp
rm /tmp/spamtmp/* -f
cd spamtmp
mv ../spamtmp.eml .
cat spamtmp.eml | /usr/local/bin/ripmime -i - -d .
cat spamtmporig.eml | /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam

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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Loren Wilton
> I have tested this by deleting the folders contents and re-installing SA
> - same problem.
>
> Maybe its because of too old Perl modules that this error message occurs?

I don't think so, but perhaps possible.  I think more likely you have a path
somewhere that is pointing to the 2.6 install, and SA is finding the rules
there, rather than in the new directory where you installed.

Loren



Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Jeff,
This means you're using old pre-3.X rules.
Hm... where are they located? I never modified the rules and installed 
3.0.2 just some minutes ago. /usr/local/share/spamassassin lists

-rw-r--r--1 root root 6018 17. Dez 09:24 10_misc.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1605 17. Dez 09:24 20_anti_ratware.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8198 17. Dez 09:24 20_body_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1613 17. Dez 09:24 20_compensate.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root12083 17. Dez 09:24 20_dnsbl_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root15700 17. Dez 09:24 20_drugs.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root11268 17. Dez 09:24 
20_fake_helo_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root27711 17. Dez 09:24 20_head_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root15487 17. Dez 09:24 20_html_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root10939 17. Dez 09:24 20_meta_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root22099 17. Dez 09:24 20_phrases.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4966 17. Dez 09:24 20_porn.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root14139 17. Dez 09:24 20_ratware.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 5032 17. Dez 09:24 20_uri_tests.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2334 17. Dez 09:24 23_bayes.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 9117 17. Dez 09:24 25_body_tests_es.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2738 17. Dez 09:24 25_hashcash.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2304 17. Dez 09:24 25_spf.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4703 17. Dez 09:24 25_uribl.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root52293 17. Dez 09:24 30_text_de.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root40682 17. Dez 09:24 30_text_fr.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root57934 17. Dez 09:24 30_text_nl.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root34803 17. Dez 09:24 30_text_pl.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root29378 17. Dez 09:24 50_scores.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root 6887 17. Dez 09:24 60_whitelist.cf
-rw-r--r--1 root root   101479 17. Dez 09:24 languages
-rw-r--r--1 root root18944 17. Dez 09:24 triplets.txt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1557 17. Dez 09:24 user_prefs.template


Network tests like RBL, SURBL, etc. probably won't work unless
you upgrade your Net::DNS to something more recent.
Okay, will try to do that. Anyone knows how I can tell SA to look Perl 
modules up in one additional directory? I don't want to erase the Debian 
package, but instead install the recent version in a separate directory 
and tell SA to use it.

Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Rakesh,
Well i cannot help much in your problem apart from saying what Jeff had 
said earlier, that you need to upgrade some of your Perl modules.
the problem is that I run on a Debian 3.0 system that has older Perl 
modules. :-)

But I couldn't help my curiosity as to why you have disabled Bayes. I
know you might be having a good reason for doing that, I was just
curious in knowing it.
I want to check out how it works in some time, and then I'll activate 
it. I just disabled it because I did not have the time to look at it. :-)

Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi,
Well is it possible that the above warnings are coming because the cf 
files in /usr/share/spamassassin are that of the old 2.6X version and 
not that of 3.x.
I have tested this by deleting the folders contents and re-installing SA 
- same problem.

Maybe its because of too old Perl modules that this error message occurs?
Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Loren,
Are you running bayes and getting a lot of bayes_99 hits?  If so, the score
for bayes-99 is a lot lower in 3.0.  This has caused problems for some
people.
I don't run Bayes. Did not run it with 2.64 as well, and it worked fine 
without.

Have you run lint to make sure that all of your rule files are good?  Things
changed since 2.6x, and SA is picker about what is valid and not.  So it may
be tossing out a whole lot of your local rules if you have some syntax
errors.
Have attached the lint output in an earlier mail, but I never had any 
local rules, in fact, I left the SA install alone and did not change much.

Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Rakesh
Florian Effenberger wrote:
warning: description for TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL is over 50 chars
warning: description for PRIORITY_NO_NAME is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG is over 50 chars
warning: description for MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER is over 50 chars
warning: description for __RCVD_IN_SBL_XBL is over 50 chars
warning: description for EXCUSE_REMOVE is over 50 chars
warning: description for T_DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE is over 50 chars
warning: description exists for non-existent rule T_DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE
Well is it possible that the above warnings are coming because the cf 
files in /usr/share/spamassassin are that of the old 2.6X version and 
not that of 3.x.

Net::DNS version is 0.23, but need 0.34dnsavailable-1 at 
/usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 1230.
debug: DCCifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found.
debug: DCC is not available: no executable dccproc found.
debug: Pyzor is not available: pyzor not found
lint: 188 issues detected.  please rerun with debug enabled for more 
information.

Thanks
Florian

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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Wolfgang,
there have been numorous threads about ALL_TRUSTED networks - have a look at 
the details
whether it appears there too
unfortunately, the SA site seems to be down at the moment, so I could 
not look it up. Could you please point me to the right page? Do you mean 
that some of the Spam I might be getting is from within a trusted 
network and thus gets not marked as Spam?

Thanks
Florian


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Martin,
what extra rules have you in /etc/mail/spamassassin.
This directory contains two files: init.pre and local.cf
init.pre contains (I have not changed this file):
===
# This is the right place to customize your installation of SpamAssassin.
#
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details of what can be
# tweaked.
#
# This file will be loaded before *all other* configuration files, including
# the system configuration.  As such, it's a good place to set things that
# will affect how those files are parsed, like which plugins are loaded
# etc.
#
###
# RelayCountry - add metadata for Bayes learning, marking the countries
# a message was relayed through
#
# loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry
# URIDNSBL - look up URLs found in the message against several DNS
# blocklists.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL
# Hashcash - perform hashcash verification.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash
# SPF - perform SPF verification.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF
===
local.cf contains:
===
report_safe 0
use_auto_whitelist 0
lock_method flock
===
Do you use bayes and did you --sync the database...
Bayes is disabled, as it was in 2.64 (that had good results).
have you enabled the URI scanning? i find this helps alot...
Where can I enable it?
Is this a new feature since 3.0?
Also does spamassassin -D --lint show any problems..
Lines that seem to have trouble are:
debug: diag: module not installed: DBI ('require' failed)
debug: diag: module not installed: Net::LDAP ('require' failed)
warning: description for PORN_URL_SEX is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_NONELEMENT_70_80 is over 50 chars
warning: description for X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_SORBS_ZOMBIE is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_THEBAT_HTML is over 50 chars
warning: description for WE_HONOR_ALL is over 50 chars
warning: description exists for non-existent rule T_RCVD_IN_IADB_LIST
warning: description for FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS is over 50 chars
warning: description for ALL_TRUSTED is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_GW05_RCVD is over 50 chars
warning: description for HDR_ORDER_TRIMRS is over 50 chars
warning: description for INVALID_TZ_GMT is over 50 chars
warning: description for HASHCASH_2SPEND is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_EVENT_UNSAFE is over 50 chars
warning: description for INVALID_TZ_EST is over 50 chars
warning: description for RATWARE_HASH_2 is over 50 chars
warning: description for MAILTO_SUBJ_REMOVE is over 50 chars
warning: description for NO_DNS_FOR_FROM is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_AOL_RCVD is over 50 chars
warning: description for SPF_SOFTFAIL is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL is over 50 chars
warning: description for MARKETING_PARTNERS is over 50 chars
warning: description for URIBL_SBL is over 50 chars
warning: description for ROUND_THE_WORLD is over 50 chars
warning: description for EXCUSE_10 is over 50 chars
warning: description for MSGID_SPAM_ALPHA_NUM is over 50 chars
warning: description for EXCUSE_19 is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_SBL is over 50 chars
warning: description for PORN_URL_MISC is over 50 chars
warning: description for MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR is over 50 chars
warning: description for X_ORIG_IP_NOT_IPV4 is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_EUDORAMAIL_RCVD is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_RCVD_HELO is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_FONT_FACE_CAPS is over 50 chars
warning: description exists for non-existent rule T_RCVD_IN_IADB_LIST_T
warning: description for X_AUTH_WARN_FAKED is over 50 chars
warning: description for FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_NJABL_MULTI is over 50 chars
warning: description for BILL_1618 is over 50 chars
warning: description for MSGID_SPAM_ZEROES is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_MAPS_NML is over 50 chars
warning: description for DATE_IN_PAST_48_96 is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_MAPS_RBL is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_SHOUTING3 is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_SHOUTING4 is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_SHOUTING5 is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_SHOUTING6 is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_SHOUTING7 is over 50 chars
warning: description for SB_NEW_BULK is over 50 chars
warning: description for FROM_NUM_AT_WEBMAIL is over 50 chars
warning: description for FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS3 is over 50 chars
warning: description for HTML_NONELEMENT_20_30 is over 50 chars
warning: description for DATE_IN_FUTURE_48_96 is over 50 chars
warning: description for NOT_ADVISOR is over 50 chars
warning: description for HOT_NASTY is over 50 chars
warning: description for RCVD_IN_BSP_OTHER is over 50 c

Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Rakesh
Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Loren,
Are you running bayes and getting a lot of bayes_99 hits?  If so, the 
score
for bayes-99 is a lot lower in 3.0.  This has caused problems for some
people.

I don't run Bayes. Did not run it with 2.64 as well, and it worked 
fine without.
Well i cannot help much in your problem apart from saying what Jeff had 
said earlier, that you need to upgrade some of your Perl modules. But I 
couldn't help my curiosity as to why you have disabled Bayes. I know you 
might be having a good reason for doing that, I was just curious in 
knowing it.

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Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Loren Wilton
Are you running bayes and getting a lot of bayes_99 hits?  If so, the score
for bayes-99 is a lot lower in 3.0.  This has caused problems for some
people.

Alternately, do you *think* you are running bayes, but maybe it isn't
working?  The database format changed and you need to upgrade it forward for
bayes to work.  spamassassin -D will tell you if it is working and trained.

Have you run lint to make sure that all of your rule files are good?  Things
changed since 2.6x, and SA is picker about what is valid and not.  So it may
be tossing out a whole lot of your local rules if you have some syntax
errors.

Loren



Re: some messages just arent scanned

2004-12-17 Thread Richard Hopkins
Hi...
--On Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:05 PM + Ronan McGlue 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi I have a situation where some of the time some messages get through
without being scanned at all, and some other get through but without
specific headers... eg
X-Spam-Score-Int: 174
X-Spam-Report:  Start SpamAssassin results
...
but not
X-Spam-Score: + (17.4)or whatever it should be...
What i do know is that i quite frewuently get the following in my exim
logs
2004-12-16 12:02:12 1CeuKY-0007IQ-9E spam acl condition: spamd connection
to 127.0.0.1, port 783 failed: Connection timed out
does this indeicate that I do not have enough spamd processes spawned or
that I dont have enough conns-per-child etc... or what?
any help please?
I was seeing the same. Increasing the number of spamd processes (-m) fixed 
it for me.

Cheers,
Richard Hopkins,
Information Services,
Computer Centre,
University of Bristol,
Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK
Tel +44 117 928 7859
Fax +44 117 929 1576


Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, December 17, 2004, 1:44:28 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
[...]
> warning: description for __RCVD_IN_SBL_XBL is over 50 chars
> warning: description for EXCUSE_REMOVE is over 50 chars
> warning: description for T_DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE is over 50 chars

This means you're using old pre-3.X rules.

> Net::DNS version is 0.23, but need 0.34dnsavailable-1 at 

Network tests like RBL, SURBL, etc. probably won't work unless
you upgrade your Net::DNS to something more recent.

Jeff C.
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http://www.surbl.org/



Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread hamann . w


Hi Florian,

there have been numorous threads about ALL_TRUSTED networks - have a look at 
the details
whether it appears there too

Wolfgang

>> Hello fellow SA users,
>> 
>> maybe it is a pure coincidence that I receive more spam, but I have the
>> feeling that more spam gets through since SA 3.x.
>> 
>> When I look at the untagged spam, it often has only a rating of 1.6 or
>> 3.0, although it looks clearly like spam. In SA 2.x, I had a threshold
>> of 7, now I've lowered it to 6, but there is still more spam getting
>> through now.
>> 
>> Has anything changed I might have overlooked? I run SA through amavisd-new.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Florian
>> 




Re: more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Hepworth
Florian
what extra rules have you in /etc/mail/spamassassin. Do you use bayes 
and did you --sync the database...

have you enabled the URI scanning? i find this helps alot...
Also does spamassassin -D --lint show any problems..
--
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Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hello fellow SA users,
maybe it is a pure coincidence that I receive more spam, but I have the
feeling that more spam gets through since SA 3.x.
When I look at the untagged spam, it often has only a rating of 1.6 or
3.0, although it looks clearly like spam. In SA 2.x, I had a threshold
of 7, now I've lowered it to 6, but there is still more spam getting
through now.
Has anything changed I might have overlooked? I run SA through amavisd-new.
Thanks
Florian
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Insecure dependency still

2004-12-17 Thread Owen McShane
Hi,

I've just upgraded to 3.0.2 to see if this would ease my problem,  but I'm 
still getting the same errors as I was with 3.0

I'm running spamd on a Fedora Core 2 machine with perl 5.8.3, connecting 
remotely from a Solaris server running exim.

Some mails get scanned fine, some get the following errors:

Dec 17 09:10:19 spambox spamd[23372]: logmsg: error: Insecure dependency in 
eval while running with -T switch at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 1685, 
 line 136._ , continuing 
Dec 17 09:10:19 spambox spamd[23372]: error: Insecure dependency in eval while 
running with -T switch at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 1685, 
 line 136._ , continuing

spamc then gives up and passes the mail back to exim, which delivers the mail 
to the local mailbox unscanned.

I know I've brought this up before, as did someone else, but has anyone got any 
ideas?  I've got no issues with my personal desktop (fedora 1 with exim) 
scanning my own domain's mail running 3.0.1, and if I revert to the Solaris 
mail server scanning the mail itself (using 2.63... I know, I should be using 
2.64), it's fine as well.

TIA,

Owen



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more spam gets through since SA 3.x

2004-12-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello fellow SA users,
maybe it is a pure coincidence that I receive more spam, but I have the
feeling that more spam gets through since SA 3.x.
When I look at the untagged spam, it often has only a rating of 1.6 or
3.0, although it looks clearly like spam. In SA 2.x, I had a threshold
of 7, now I've lowered it to 6, but there is still more spam getting
through now.
Has anything changed I might have overlooked? I run SA through amavisd-new.
Thanks
Florian


Re: cannot write and parse errors

2004-12-17 Thread David Newman
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Richard Ozer wrote:
It looks like your port had a 2.x local.cf file
Thanks very much to all who responded. The port in question is 3.0.1 on 
FreeBSD 5.2.1. I had CVSUP'd the system before installing SA, so I'm 
reasonably sure what I got was current.

Note for the FBSD ports maintainers, if you're on this list: Maybe it's 
not so good to include 2.x configs with 3.x distros

thanks again
dn