Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Loren Wilton

Jo Rhett wrote:


As for LW_STOCK_SPAM4, it's being triggered by the fact that the 
message

In the standard config? No.. It's not a FP in the standard config, so
there's no reason to modify it.


Can you explain how this isn't an FP in the standard config?  There's 
absolutely nothing custom about my config, so what standard are you 
applying here?


Again, I have a 100% stock SA configuration.  Why do I need a custom rule 
to work around an FP in the ruleset?



No you don't.  I wrote that rule.  That's why it starts with my initials.  I 
didn't submit it to SA, and while it I think exists in SARE rules, it almost 
undoubtledly has a SARE_ prefix in that rule set.


So no, you DO NOT have a standard config, no matter what you may think.

Now, that said, the forwarded Blackberry message you posted would not have 
hit the rule in the first place, unless someone took my original rule and 
modified it.  So you not only don't have a standard config, you have 
apparently locally-modified versions of rules you have picked up elsewhere. 
And it is that locally-modified rule that is hitting on your Blackberry 
messages.


   Loren




Re: Re: Drug Spam

2007-02-09 Thread Nick Leverton
On Thursday 08 February 2007 15:21, Ben Wylie wrote:
 As I understand it, these undefined dependencies are errors where a meta
 rule has been written to depend on another rule, which does not exist.
 These don't have catastrophic consequences, it just means that rule may
 not be effective.

Google suggests these rules were once in the FVGT ruleset, this is what the 
FM_ ones looked like:

metaFM_NO_TO   (!__MY_TO)
describeFM_NO_TO   Message is missing To
score   FM_NO_TO   0.001
metaFM_NO_FROM_OR_TO   (!__MY_FROM  !__MY_TO)
describeFM_NO_FROM_OR_TO   Message is missing From and To
score   FM_NO_FROM_OR_TO   0.001

I don't have a copy of __URIBL_ANY anywhere but I don't think it's 
necessary, since KAM's rules that use it also name each individual URIBL 
as well.


Nick


Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Nick Leverton
On Friday 09 February 2007 09:00, Loren Wilton wrote:
  Jo Rhett wrote:
  As for LW_STOCK_SPAM4, it's being triggered by the fact that the
  message

 No you don't.  I wrote that rule.  That's why it starts with my
 initials.  I didn't submit it to SA, and while it I think exists in SARE
 rules, it almost undoubtledly has a SARE_ prefix in that rule set.

It's in 70_sare_stocks under the plain LW_ name.

Nick


Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Jo Rhett wrote:

 Again, I have a 100% stock SA configuration. 
No you don't have a 100% stock config. There are at least two
differences relevant to them message you posted:

1) you have the SARE STOCKS ruleset. LW_STOCK_SPAM4 is NOT a stock
spamassasssin rule. It's part of an add-on ruleset, not a stock SA feature.
2) you have a lower threshold.

In a stock configuration, this message would have scored 2.574, and been
substantially less than 5.0. This is NOT a FP in the stock SA configuration.

 Why do I need a custom rule to work around an FP in the ruleset? 
See above.


Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Loren Wilton wrote:


 Now, that said, the forwarded Blackberry message you posted would not
 have hit the rule in the first place, unless someone took my original
 rule and modified it.  So you not only don't have a standard config,
 you have apparently locally-modified versions of rules you have picked
 up elsewhere. And it is that locally-modified rule that is hitting on
 your Blackberry messages.
Wow.. you're right Loren, LW_STOCK_SPAM4 should not have hit.

I just assumed the __RATWARE_0_TZ_DATE half was picking up on the lack
of a valid timezone. It's looking for the timezone to literally  be
+, which it is not.

I over-looked that entirely.

Jo, can you check your copy of this rule? The relevant bits should be:

header  __RATWARE_0_TZ_DATE Date =~ /\s\+$/

metaLW_STOCK_SPAM4  __RATWARE_0_TZ_DATE  MIME_BASE64_TEXT
score   LW_STOCK_SPAM4  1.66
describeLW_STOCK_SPAM4  Yup, its a spam!






Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Chris Lear
* Loren Wilton wrote (08/02/07 19:46):
 As for LW_STOCK_SPAM4, it's being triggered by the fact that the message
 is base-64 encoded text AND has a Date: header that's missing a proper
 timezone. Apparently a batch of stock spam went out at some point with
 both of these abnormal features. I have to admit, it's a pretty rare
 combination.

 Date: February 6, 2007 9:52:29 AM PST

 That should, properly, should read something like this:
   Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2007 09:52:29 -0800
 
 Actually LW_STOCK_SPAM4 was written on 02/19/2006, and is looking for a 
 Base64 encoded message that has a valid timezone that is specifically 
 \s\+, not an invalid time zone.
 
 Internally I have it scored at 5 points and haven't had a problem with it, 
 but people don't send me messages from Blackberrys.
 
 I suppose a blackberry might not have a clock so send all messages as though 
 they came from London regardless of where they are.  That would somewhat 
 surprise me, since cell phones certainly know where they are and what time 
 it is.  But if Verizon is involved then it is certainly possible that the 
 software has been deliberately crippled in a number of ways, and creating a 
 proper date header might be one of those deliberate malfunctions.


Just to confirm that this unmodified rule does hit some legit blackberry
e-mail, here's an example (apologies for the obfuscation, but I've only
messed with addresses. It's not my e-mail):

Return-path: someone's address
Envelope-to: my wife
Delivery-date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:21:42 +
Received: from smtp02.bis.eu.blackberry.com ([216.9.253.49])
by mail.barcombe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from the sender)
id 1HEqUG-0008Ku-IV
for my wife's address; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:21:41 +
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Reply-To: the sender
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sensitivity: Normal
Importance: Normal
To: My Wife Her address
Subject: Re: 25th august
From: the sender
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:22:58 +
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-AntiVirus: Clean
X-Spam-Score: 2.1
X-Spam-Level: ++
X-Spam-Report: Barcombe.net spam report: Score = 2.1.
Tests=BAYES_00=-2.599,LW_STOCK_SPAM4=1.66,MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224,MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.885,NO_REAL_NAME=0.961

A bit of grepping suggests that LW_STOCK_SPAM4 has hit 5 ham and 3 spam
(all scoring 20+) on that server since about November. So its usefulness
is perhaps questionable. Normal disclaimer applies: this is only one
low-traffic server. I live in the UK which might make the + timezone
more likely.

[Also see the thread Blackberry email]

Chris (whose mail from blackberries has all been received OK)


RE: Spam filtering on SA list?

2007-02-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
John D. Hardin wrote:
 WTF, over?
 
 On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote:
 
  Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:55:22 -0800
  From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
  
  The original message was received at Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:54:58 -0800
  from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
  
 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
  users@spamassassin.apache.org
  (reason: 552 spam score (10.0) exceeded threshold)
  
 - Transcript of session follows -
  ... while talking to herse.apache.org.:
 DATA
   552 spam score (10.0) exceeded threshold
  554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
 
 The message was in reply to Ramprasad's Nuisance stock spams email.

This has been discussed a few times.  The short version is that this
list is hosted by apache.org.  They spam scan posts to their mailling
lists and they aren't interested in making changes to accomodate a
single list.

The net result is that if you want to include a spam sample, you need to
put it on a web server and link to it.  If you want to refer to a spammy
url, alter it so the url blacklists don't catch it.

-- 
Bowie


More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Andy Figueroa

These guys are just rolling in scott free except for bayes.
See http://2chronicles36.org/stock.txt

I'm using 3.1.7 with latest sa-update + FuzzyOCR.cf  KAM.cf

Oops, I just found the following in my /etc/mail/spamassassin directory, 
and I don't know where they came from:


tripwire.cf
random.cf
bogus-virus-warnings.cf
antidrug.cf

I'm running Gentoo, and I did emerge and unmerge SARE as a test around 
the time that these are dated.  Are these left overs?  They don't seem 
to be doing any harm that I can tell, but should I delete or keep them?


Andy Figueroa


Re: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Andy Figueroa wrote:
 These guys are just rolling in scott free except for bayes.
 See http://2chronicles36.org/stock.txt

 I'm using 3.1.7 with latest sa-update + FuzzyOCR.cf  KAM.cf

 Oops, I just found the following in my /etc/mail/spamassassin
 directory, and I don't know where they came from:

 tripwire.cf
 random.cf
 bogus-virus-warnings.cf
 antidrug.cf
Probably an old version of RDJ. That said, don't use Antidrug with
versions of SA newer than 2.64. (I'm the author of this rulset, and I
contributed it as a part of the standard rules for 3.0.0 and higher)


 I'm running Gentoo, and I did emerge and unmerge SARE as a test around
 the time that these are dated.  Are these left overs?  They don't seem
 to be doing any harm that I can tell, but should I delete or keep them?

For antidrug, delete it. It's got the potential to do harm by
over-writing part of the standard ruleset with older versions.



RE: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Chris Santerre


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Figueroa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:31 AM
 To: SpamAssassin Users List
 Subject: More stock spam + strange cf files
 
 
 These guys are just rolling in scott free except for bayes.
 See http://2chronicles36.org/stock.txt
 
 I'm using 3.1.7 with latest sa-update + FuzzyOCR.cf  KAM.cf
 

I must say, that a pretty well done spam. Whoever wrote it put some thought
into the phrasing. This one might take a bit. The wording is gonna be hard
to tag. 

--Chris


Re[2]: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Peter Nitschke
On 9/02/2007 at 10:06 AM Chris Santerre wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Figueroa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:31 AM
 To: SpamAssassin Users List
 Subject: More stock spam + strange cf files
 
 
 These guys are just rolling in scott free except for bayes.
 See http://2chronicles36.org/stock.txt
 
 I'm using 3.1.7 with latest sa-update + FuzzyOCR.cf  KAM.cf
 

I must say, that a pretty well done spam. Whoever wrote it put some
thought
into the phrasing. This one might take a bit. The wording is gonna be hard
to tag. 

--Chris


Pardon my ignorance here, but it is full of mis-spellings and phrases that
you wouldn't normally see, so why not just hit those?
aid you to know
C O S T
brroker
ama zing

Peter




RE: Spamassassin does block some email

2007-02-09 Thread Rocco Scappatura
 Speaking of ninjas one slipped in here and whispered in my 
 ear that the original problem rocsca had might benefit from 
 the anti drug rules on the SARE web site. He should read the 
 various rule set descriptions and pick those which fit his 
 situation best.

Fine! I agree with you!! But I can't figure out what SARE rules I I have
to use to block that email that SA does not block..

Moreover, could I update it with rules_du_jour?

PS: I have the following conf for rules_du_jour..

TRUSTED_RULESETS=TRIPWIRE RANDOMVAL BOGUSVIRUS;

BR,

rocsca


Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread SM

At 01:00 09-02-2007, Loren Wilton wrote:
Now, that said, the forwarded Blackberry message you posted would 
not have hit the rule in the first place, unless someone took my 
original rule and modified it.  So you not only don't have a 
standard config, you have apparently locally-modified versions of 
rules you have picked up elsewhere. And it is that locally-modified 
rule that is hitting on your Blackberry messages.


Blackberry messages will hit the LW_STOCK_SPAM4 rule.  There is 
nothing wrong with the LW_STOCK_SPAM4 rule as such.  The overall 
score in a standard configuration with that rule added averages 
around two points.  It shouldn't cause any false positives as the score is low.


Regards,
-sm 



RE: Spamassassin does block some email

2007-02-09 Thread Rocco Scappatura
  Speaking of ninjas one slipped in here and whispered in my ear that 
  the original problem rocsca had might benefit from the anti 
 drug rules 
  on the SARE web site. He should read the various rule set 
 descriptions 
  and pick those which fit his situation best.
 
 Fine! I agree with you!! But I can't figure out what SARE 
 rules I I have to use to block that email that SA does not block..
 
 Moreover, could I update it with rules_du_jour?
 
 PS: I have the following conf for rules_du_jour..
 
 TRUSTED_RULESETS=TRIPWIRE RANDOMVAL BOGUSVIRUS;

Maybe I have to use 70_sare_obfu*.cf ruleset files?

It seems to me that my SA configuration doesn't load them.. Infact I
have this only cf files other that in SA dir (/etc/mail/spamassassin):

path_to_SA/10_misc.cf
path_to_SA/20_advance_fee.cf
path_to_SA/20_anti_ratware.cf
path_to_SA/20_body_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_compensate.cf
path_to_SA/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_drugs.cf
path_to_SA/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_head_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_html_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_meta_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_net_tests.cf
path_to_SA/20_phrases.cf
path_to_SA/20_porn.cf
path_to_SA/20_ratware.cf
path_to_SA/20_uri_tests.cf
path_to_SA/23_bayes.cf
path_to_SA/25_accessdb.cf
path_to_SA/25_antivirus.cf
path_to_SA/25_body_tests_es.cf
path_to_SA/25_body_tests_pl.cf
path_to_SA/25_dcc.cf
path_to_SA/25_dkim.cf
path_to_SA/25_domainkeys.cf
path_to_SA/25_hashcash.cf
path_to_SA/25_pyzor.cf
path_to_SA/25_razor2.cf
path_to_SA/25_replace.cf
path_to_SA/25_spf.cf
path_to_SA/25_textcat.cf
path_to_SA/25_uribl.cf

PS: What other cf file is worth to use without overload the server?

BR,

rocsca


RE: Spam filtering on SA list?

2007-02-09 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Bowie Bailey wrote:

 This has been discussed a few times.  The short version is that
 this list is hosted by apache.org.  They spam scan posts to their
 mailling lists and they aren't interested in making changes to
 accomodate a single list.

Fair enough.

 The net result is that if you want to include a spam sample, you
 need to put it on a web server and link to it.  If you want to
 refer to a spammy url, alter it so the url blacklists don't catch
 it.

That's what puzzles me - there was no spam sample, just regular 
discussion.

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RE: Spam filtering on SA list?

2007-02-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
John D. Hardin wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Bowie Bailey wrote:
 
  This has been discussed a few times.  The short version is that
  this list is hosted by apache.org.  They spam scan posts to their
  mailling lists and they aren't interested in making changes to
  accomodate a single list.
 
 Fair enough.
 
  The net result is that if you want to include a spam sample, you
  need to put it on a web server and link to it.  If you want to
  refer to a spammy url, alter it so the url blacklists don't catch
  it.
 
 That's what puzzles me - there was no spam sample, just regular
 discussion.

If their rejection didn't specify hits, you can always take your
message, run it through SA and see what it hits.

Alternately, send it directly to me and I'll let you know what it hits
on my system.

-- 
Bowie


RE: Re[2]: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Chris Santerre
  
  These guys are just rolling in scott free except for bayes.
  See http://2chronicles36.org/stock.txt
  
  I'm using 3.1.7 with latest sa-update + FuzzyOCR.cf  KAM.cf
  
 
 I must say, that a pretty well done spam. Whoever wrote it put some
 thought
 into the phrasing. This one might take a bit. The wording is 
 gonna be hard
 to tag. 
 
 --Chris
 
 
 Pardon my ignorance here, but it is full of mis-spellings and 
 phrases that
 you wouldn't normally see, so why not just hit those?
 aid you to know
 C O S T
 brroker
 ama zing
 
 Peter

Because if people learn anything from my posts, its that there are always
new ways to horribly misspell words! ;) 

Search for C O S T today, and tomorrow its C,O,S,T. Search for
/c.?o.?s.?t.?/i and you FP and CLOSET

Taggnig spam is more of an art, then an exact science. Wellmore of an
artistic science withou tht pretty colors and swimsuit
modelswhen the hell are we gonna see some antispam swimsuit modelsoh
thats a bit sexist... well not really...I suppose we could have male models
as well.Justin is pretty sexydid I say that out loudmaybe no one
will notice.. swinsuit models.

--Chris


Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Jo Rhett


On Feb 9, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Matt Kettler wrote:

Jo Rhett wrote:


Again, I have a 100% stock SA configuration.

No you don't have a 100% stock config. There are at least two
differences relevant to them message you posted:

1) you have the SARE STOCKS ruleset. LW_STOCK_SPAM4 is NOT a stock
spamassasssin rule. It's part of an add-on ruleset, not a stock SA  
feature.



Why do I need a custom rule to work around an FP in the ruleset?

See above.


It's really hard not to be really annoyed with this answer.  What  
kind of nonsense did you think my question was?


If LW_STOCK_SPAM is a SARE RULE, then I am requesting a revision to  
the SARE rule.  Why on the gods green earth would you assume that I  
wanted a fix in the base distribution for a SARE rule?


--
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
and other randomness





Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Adam Lanier
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 09:01 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
 On Feb 9, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Matt Kettler wrote:
  Jo Rhett wrote:
 
  Again, I have a 100% stock SA configuration.
  No you don't have a 100% stock config. There are at least two
  differences relevant to them message you posted:
 
  1) you have the SARE STOCKS ruleset. LW_STOCK_SPAM4 is NOT a stock
  spamassasssin rule. It's part of an add-on ruleset, not a stock SA  
  feature.
 
  Why do I need a custom rule to work around an FP in the ruleset?
  See above.
 
 It's really hard not to be really annoyed with this answer.  What  
 kind of nonsense did you think my question was?
 
 If LW_STOCK_SPAM is a SARE RULE, then I am requesting a revision to  
 the SARE rule.  Why on the gods green earth would you assume that I  
 wanted a fix in the base distribution for a SARE rule?

Not to start a flame war or anything (yeah, right) but:

It's really hard not to be annoyed with your response.

If you want a change to a SARE rule, go talk to the SARE people.  If you
want help from the SA list, please provide accurate information in your
requests; it will go a long way towards getting accurate (and helpful)
responses.


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question about image spam

2007-02-09 Thread Ivan Arteaga
Hi List,

 

First time posting here, we are running SA version 3.0.6 on centos 4.4, we
have a lot of image spam and I would like to know if somebody can give me an
idea about how to deal with it?

 

Any comment will be appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

--Ivan. 



Re: question about image spam

2007-02-09 Thread Evan Platt

At 10:09 AM 2/9/2007, Ivan Arteaga wrote:


Hi List,



First time posting here, we are running SA version 3.0.6 on centos 4.4, we
have a lot of image spam and I would like to know if somebody can give me an
idea about how to deal with it?



Any comment will be appreciated.


Upgrading to 3.1.7 wouldn't be a bad idea.

FuzzyOCR would be another good idea.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin

Evan



Re: question about image spam

2007-02-09 Thread Maciej Friedel
On 02/09/07 Ivan wrote:

Hi

 First time posting here, we are running SA version 3.0.6 on centos
4.4, we
 have a lot of image spam and I would like to know if somebody can give
me an
 idea about how to deal with it?

http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/image_spam2.html
here is the best help to install FuzuOCR
FuzyOCR rekognize animated graphics

maciek

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spamc 3.1.1 and procmail

2007-02-09 Thread .rp
Hi,

In our system wide .procmail I have been using /usr/bin/spammassin. Recently 
the 
CPU usage has soared when spamassassin ran so I decided to use /usr/bin/spamc 
with spamd running as a dameon. 

well, it didn't quite work. here is a sample problem:
| /usr/bin/spamc -u $LOGNAME


 sendmail[21908]: l19HQGne021908: from=bounce-422420-
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=18119, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=LYRIS-1377318-
[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, 
daemon=Daemon0, relay=lists.now.org [198.65.157.134]
 spamd[17291]: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 56232
 spamd[17291]: spamd: setuid to xyzsom succeeded
 net spamd[17291]: spamd: creating default_prefs: 
/home/xyzsom/.spamassassin/user_prefs
 net spamd[17291]: mkdir /root/.spamassassin: Permission denied at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 1469
 net spamd[17291]: config: cannot write to 
/home/xyzsom/.spamassassin/user_prefs: 
Permission denied

I also tried spamc with no parameters but that did not help.
So what changes do I need to make? Will this adversly affect running 
/usr/bin/spamassassin ?



SPamc not filtering all mail.

2007-02-09 Thread Jai Rangi

Hello,
I have this rule in my .procmailrc,

:0f
* ^[F|f]rom:.*ourdomain\.com
* 
^[m|M]essage-[i|I][D|d]:.*ourdomain\.com|^Received:.*(authenticated).*\.ourdomain\.com

| formail -AX-Spam: none

:0fw
*  256000
* !^X-Spam: none
* !^FROM_DAEMON
| /usr/bin/spamc

We don't want SPAMASSASSIN to check any mails coming from our own 
domain. So every email must be tagged for

either X-Spam: none OR

X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No,


This seems to have been pretty good, but every once in a while we get 
few emails that dont get checked for spam. and neither get the tag 
X-SPAM: none.

For Example this one,

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from node.ourdomain.com (node.ourdomain.com [OUR.PUBLIC.IP.ADDr])
by localmail.lan.aleks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB3D60E26
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:05:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from sys1.hobarotua.com (66.63.190.191.oc3networks.com 
[66.63.190.191] (may be forged))

by node.ourdomain.aleks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l19C5Ji11370
for  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 
04:05:19 -0800
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] //This 
message ID was forged to like like from our domain.
Received: by sys1.hobarotua.com id hphhnu0cq2g5 for  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:05:17 -0800 
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

from: Message in a Bottle[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: Personalized Message in a Bottle
date: 2/9/2007 4:05:28 AM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=Multipart-Boundary-xxcekeBKXHe7w---

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


Can anyone help me out what I might be doing wrong, how can I make sure 
that every email not from our domain must be checked for spam.

I am using postfix+spamassassin. version spamassassin-3.0.6-1.fc4


Thank you,
-Jai




updating 3.1.1 to 3.1.7

2007-02-09 Thread .rp
using the DAG site and rpm -U, I updated spamassassin and spamassissin-tools to 
3.1.7-1
Things don't look so good. Here is what happened when I restarted spamd

 spamd[26917]: spamd: server killed by SIGTERM, shutting down
 spamd[27082]: persistent_udp: no such method at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/DnsResolver.pm line 99
 spamd[27082]: logger: removing stderr method
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: rewrite_subject 1
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: subject_tag [:]
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: check_mx_delay 3
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: report_header 1
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_terse_report 1
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: detailed_phrase_score 0
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: spam_level_stars 0
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: defang_mime 0
 spamd[27084]: config: score: the non-numeric score (-.3) is not valid, a 
numeric 
score is required
 spamd[27084]: config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, FROM_POSTOFFICE -
.3 is not valid for score, skipping: score FROM_POSTOFFICE -.3
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: razor_timeout 1
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: dcc_timeout 1
 spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: pyzor_add_header 0
 spamd[27084]: rules: meta test DIGEST_MULTIPLE has undefined dependency 
'RAZOR2_CHECK'
 spamd[27084]: rules: meta test DIGEST_MULTIPLE has undefined dependency 
'DCC_CHECK'
 spamd[27084]: rules: meta test DRUGS_ERECTILE has undefined dependency 
'__DRUGS_ERECTILE7'
 spamd[27084]: rules: meta test VIRUS_WARNING_DOOM_BNC has undefined 
dependency 'VIRUS_WARNING_MYDOOM4'
 spamd[27084]: rules: meta test SARE_OBFU_CIALIS has undefined dependency 
'SARE_OBFU_CIALIS2'
 spamd[27084]: spamd: server started on port 783/tcp (running version 3.1.7)
 spamd[27084]: spamd: server pid: 27084
 spamd[27084]: spamd: server successfully spawned child process, pid 27091
 spamd[27084]: spamd: server successfully spawned child process, pid 27092
 spamd[27084]: prefork: child states: IS
 spamd[27084]: prefork: child states: II

I don't see anything mentioned about this in 
 /usr/share/doc/spamassassin-3.1.7/UPGRADE

Thanks.



RE: updating 3.1.1 to 3.1.7

2007-02-09 Thread Bret Miller
 using the DAG site and rpm -U, I updated spamassassin and
 spamassissin-tools to
 3.1.7-1
 Things don't look so good. Here is what happened when I
 restarted spamd

  spamd[26917]: spamd: server killed by SIGTERM, shutting down
  spamd[27082]: persistent_udp: no such method at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/DnsResolver
 .pm line 99
  spamd[27082]: logger: removing stderr method
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 rewrite_subject 1
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: subject_tag [:]
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 check_mx_delay 3
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: report_header 1
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 use_terse_report 1
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 detailed_phrase_score 0
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 spam_level_stars 0
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: defang_mime 0
  spamd[27084]: config: score: the non-numeric score (-.3) is
 not valid, a numeric
 score is required
  spamd[27084]: config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line,
 FROM_POSTOFFICE -
 .3 is not valid for score, skipping: score FROM_POSTOFFICE -.3
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: razor_timeout 1
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping: dcc_timeout 1
  spamd[27084]: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
 pyzor_add_header 0
  spamd[27084]: rules: meta test DIGEST_MULTIPLE has undefined
 dependency
 'RAZOR2_CHECK'
  spamd[27084]: rules: meta test DIGEST_MULTIPLE has undefined
 dependency
 'DCC_CHECK'
  spamd[27084]: rules: meta test DRUGS_ERECTILE has undefined
 dependency
 '__DRUGS_ERECTILE7'
  spamd[27084]: rules: meta test VIRUS_WARNING_DOOM_BNC has undefined
 dependency 'VIRUS_WARNING_MYDOOM4'
  spamd[27084]: rules: meta test SARE_OBFU_CIALIS has
 undefined dependency
 'SARE_OBFU_CIALIS2'
  spamd[27084]: spamd: server started on port 783/tcp (running
 version 3.1.7)
  spamd[27084]: spamd: server pid: 27084
  spamd[27084]: spamd: server successfully spawned child
 process, pid 27091
  spamd[27084]: spamd: server successfully spawned child
 process, pid 27092
  spamd[27084]: prefork: child states: IS
  spamd[27084]: prefork: child states: II

 I don't see anything mentioned about this in
  /usr/share/doc/spamassassin-3.1.7/UPGRADE

The failed to parse line warnings are all deprecated settings IIRC.
Check the documentation for current equivalents. I would be surprised if
3.1.1 didn't note those as well.

The score from FROM_POSTOFFICE should be -0.3 instead of -.3. Is that
in your local.cf?

The undefined dependency info messages are new in a recent version
(sorry-- don't remember which). However, the end result is the same as
before as far as processing goes. It's just the undefined dependencies
are actually noted somewhere now where they weren't before. If you
develop your own meta rules, having this is very helpful. For stardard
or other 3rd-party rules, it's just annoying.

Is your Net::DNS up-to-date per the release notes?

HTH,
Bret





TVD_ENVFROM_APOST

2007-02-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


Two questions about TVD_ENVFROM_APOST :

1. Is its execution conditional in any way? Because I have many posts that 
have an apostrophe in the From: yet don't trigger this flag. I can't 
figure out when it's applied or not.


2. Wouldn't it be better to check for apostrophe s ? It seems like what 
that test catches is mostly addresses made up from random dictionary 
words, from dictionaries that consider each genitive case to be a word in 
itself. E.g. open /usr/share/dict/words and search for apostrophes.


 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju
| Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada

Spam Scam - childsafenetwork.org

2007-02-09 Thread David Cary Hart
As a violent crime victims advocate, I might be overreacting to this
issue. OTOH, I can write, with absolute certainty, that anyone using
any of the services from childsafenetwork.org is opting in for a
considerable volume of commercial spam (from hoodia to credit
reports).

In point of fact, the domain is registered to Paradigm Direct which
seems to be an affiliate of JBR Media Ventures, They, and their
affiliates, have done a remarkable job of seeding Google search
results. The real deal seems to be CSN.org. The home pages are
remarkably similar in context.

If you agree with my point of view, feel free to make some noise. I
have written to Starbucks without reply. More information is
available at http://tqmcube.com/childsafe.php . 
-- 
Our DNSRBL - Eliminate Spam at the Source: http://www.TQMcube.com
   Don't Subsidize Criminals: http://boulderpledge.org


Re: TVD_ENVFROM_APOST

2007-02-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

Two questions about TVD_ENVFROM_APOST :

1. Is its execution conditional in any way? Because I have many posts that 
have an apostrophe in the From: yet don't trigger this flag. I can't figure 
out when it's applied or not.


I just checked it again, and it may have to do with EnvelopeFrom vs 
From:addr. However, my mail program hides the EnvelopeFrom (the very first 
line of the message, if I'm not mistaken) even when in full headers 
mode. Fortunately, I can export any message to a file in which the first 
line will be the EnvelopeFrom.


So, I found an email that had 's in the From: but not tagged 
TVD_ENVFROM_APOST, and I exported it, and looked at the first line. It 
contained an 's too. So, that possibility is eliminated, and I have no 
other idea what it could be.


(I don't have any experience writing rules in SpamAssassin. I know 
Regexps, Perl, etc., but I don't know much SA-specific information)


 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju
| Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada

Re: TVD_ENVFROM_APOST

2007-02-09 Thread Larry Starr
It checks the Envelope from, NOT the Header From:.

On Friday 09 February 2007 14:57, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 Two questions about TVD_ENVFROM_APOST :

 1. Is its execution conditional in any way? Because I have many posts that
 have an apostrophe in the From: yet don't trigger this flag. I can't
 figure out when it's applied or not.

 2. Wouldn't it be better to check for apostrophe s ? It seems like what
 that test catches is mostly addresses made up from random dictionary
 words, from dictionaries that consider each genitive case to be a word in
 itself. E.g. open /usr/share/dict/words and search for apostrophes.

   _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...

 | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju
 | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada

-- 
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Phone: 608-831-7330 x 1347  FAX: 608-831-6330
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racing, all the rest are merely games! - Ernest Hemmingway



20_porn.cf/SUBJECT_SEXUAL not picking up new subjects

2007-02-09 Thread Bubba Wilson


I've been getting many sexy subject emails lately that are not getting 
properly categorized by the SUBJECT_SEXUAL rule in 20_porn.cf.  These 
new-to-me subjects are:


SEUAL-EXPLCIT:
SEEUAL-EXPLlClT:

I've modified my rule locally but figured I'd pass along my changes should 
the rule actually be updated:


Subject =~ 
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]|1](

?:[l!|1]y)?.{0,3}[e3\xE8-\xEB]xp[l!|1][i1!|l\xEC-\xEF]?c[i1!|l\xEC-\xEF]t/i

Thanks,
Bubba



RE: Spam Scam - childsafenetwork.org

2007-02-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
David Cary Hart wrote:
 As a violent crime victims advocate, I might be overreacting to this
 issue. OTOH, I can write, with absolute certainty, that anyone using
 any of the services from childsafenetwork.org is opting in for a
 considerable volume of commercial spam (from hoodia to credit
 reports).
 
 In point of fact, the domain is registered to Paradigm Direct which
 seems to be an affiliate of JBR Media Ventures, They, and their
 affiliates, have done a remarkable job of seeding Google search
 results. The real deal seems to be CSN.org. The home pages are
 remarkably similar in context.
 
 If you agree with my point of view, feel free to make some noise. I
 have written to Starbucks without reply. More information is
 available at http://tqmcube.com/childsafe.php .

Interesting.  What happens if you try to opt out of these mailings?

-- 
Bowie


Does exist a public database of spam content?

2007-02-09 Thread Alejandro Lengua

I would like to know if there is a public database of spam
content that I could use to update my SpamAssassin
Bayes database.

There is still a lot of spam that is not catched by
SpamAssassin, so I was thinking that it could be an
alternative for improving its effectiveness.

It could also be a business oportunity.
Think of it as an antivirus signature update service
or the way Sourcefire makes profit with Snort rules.


Regards
Alejandro Lengua


Re: Does exist a public database of spam content?

2007-02-09 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight

How much spam do you want?

/me stares at the millions of emails in his quarantines

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Blacknight Solutions
Hosting  Colocation, Brand Protection
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Re: Does exist a public database of spam content?

2007-02-09 Thread Evan Platt

At 01:35 PM 2/9/2007, Alejandro Lengua wrote:


I would like to know if there is a public database of spam
content that I could use to update my SpamAssassin
Bayes database.

There is still a lot of spam that is not catched by
SpamAssassin, so I was thinking that it could be an
alternative for improving its effectiveness.

It could also be a business oportunity.
Think of it as an antivirus signature update service
or the way Sourcefire makes profit with Snort rules.


Post to a usenet group, using a real e-mail address. Have that e-mail 
address go to a mailbox you can run sa-learn on. 



dns query failed for 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com

2007-02-09 Thread Stephen Carter
Hi guys,

I'm running SA 3.1.1 and have imported openprotect's gpg sig, but when I try to 
run sa-update on this channel with the debug switch turned on I get the error:

dbg: dns: query failed: 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com = NXDOMAIN

Is SA 3.1.1 still supported with this channel?

I know I need to udpate SA to 3.1.7 but can't do it just at the moment.

Thanks!

Stephen Carter
Retrac Networking Limited
www: http://www.retnet.co.uk
Ph: +44 (0)7870 218 693
Fax: +44 (0)870 7060 056
CNA, CNE 6, CNS, CCNA, MCSE 2003


Re: dns query failed for 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com

2007-02-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Stephen Carter wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm running SA 3.1.1 and have imported openprotect's gpg sig, but when I try to 
run sa-update on this channel with the debug switch turned on I get the error:

dbg: dns: query failed: 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com = NXDOMAIN

Is SA 3.1.1 still supported with this channel?


It appears that they're only publishing updates for 3.1.3 to 3.1.7.



I know I need to udpate SA to 3.1.7 but can't do it just at the moment.


Either update SA or use a different SARE ruleset channel provider.  The 
one I know of will work for 3.1.1. ;)



Daryl


Re: RE: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Ben Wylie

Chris Santerre wrote:

  These guys are just rolling in scott free except for bayes.
  See http://2chronicles36.org/stock.txt
 
  I'm using 3.1.7 with latest sa-update + FuzzyOCR.cf  KAM.cf

I must say, that a pretty well done spam. Whoever wrote it put some 
thought into the phrasing. This one might take a bit. The wording is 
gonna be hard to tag.



I get a decent score on this. These are the rules it hit.

X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=10.4 version=3.1.7
X-Spam-Report:
*  2.0 BOTNET Relay might be a spambot or virusbot
*  [botnet0.7,ip=218.157.62.185,maildomain=gcpower.net,nordns]
*  2.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM4 BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
*  1.7 SARE_LWSYMFMT BODY: SARE_LWSYMFMT
*  3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
*  [score: 1.]
*  0.6 HELO_MISMATCH_COM HELO_MISMATCH_COM

I don't know if these SARE rules have been written since you posted this 
email though...


Ben




Re: Spam Scam - childsafenetwork.org

2007-02-09 Thread David Cary Hart
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:32:27 -0500 , Bowie Bailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:
 David Cary Hart wrote:
  As a violent crime victims advocate, I might be overreacting to
  this issue. OTOH, I can write, with absolute certainty, that
  anyone using any of the services from childsafenetwork.org is
  opting in for a considerable volume of commercial spam (from
  hoodia to credit reports).
  
  In point of fact, the domain is registered to Paradigm Direct
  which seems to be an affiliate of JBR Media Ventures, They, and
  their affiliates, have done a remarkable job of seeding Google
  search results. The real deal seems to be CSN.org. The home pages
  are remarkably similar in context.
  
  If you agree with my point of view, feel free to make some noise.
  I have written to Starbucks without reply. More information is
  available at http://tqmcube.com/childsafe.php .
 
 Interesting.  What happens if you try to opt out of these mailings?
 
Since putting up the page, I have received three (unverified)
complaints that opt-outs are not honored. JBR Media used to spam
SwitchMyCellPhone.com. 

BTW, all of our escalated ranges are now available in real time on
our site.

-- 
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   Don't Subsidize Criminals: http://boulderpledge.org


Re: dns query failed for 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com

2007-02-09 Thread Stephen Carter
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 17:49 -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
 Stephen Carter wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
  I'm running SA 3.1.1 and have imported openprotect's gpg sig, but when I 
  try to run sa-update on this channel with the debug switch turned on I get 
  the error:
  
  dbg: dns: query failed: 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com = NXDOMAIN
  
  Is SA 3.1.1 still supported with this channel?
 
 It appears that they're only publishing updates for 3.1.3 to 3.1.7.
 
 
  I know I need to udpate SA to 3.1.7 but can't do it just at the moment.
 
 Either update SA or use a different SARE ruleset channel provider.  The 
 one I know of will work for 3.1.1. ;)
 
 
 Daryl
Thanks for the reply Daryl. Looks like I'll have to push through that SA
upgrade then How do you know what versions are supported? Is it
simply performing DNS queries on each version of SA?

-- 
Stephen Carter
Retrac Networking Limited
www: http://www.retnet.co.uk
Ph: +44 (0)7870 218 693
Fax: +44 (0)870 7060 056
CNA, CNE 6, CNS, CCNA, MCSE 2003




spamassassin learning method

2007-02-09 Thread Rizal Ferdiyan

Hi all,
Iam rizal, iam newbie

I have a SMTP proxy server, before any email enter my company, they must 
past via my smtp proxy server.My smtp server consist of 2 machine, one 
work with postfix and the other work with spamassaasin + clamav.  It 
serve about 2000 clients. I want to create spamassassin learning 
method, if my client find any spam for their email they can forward it 
to one address i create for receive spam, example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After 
that i can do sa-learn to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox or maildir. But when 
i read spamassassin documentacy, they also learn email header. Cause my  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox consist of email forward from my client, so it 
have a header (from, to, cc,msg-id, etc) from my client. I affraid if i 
use this method, my client will be a spammers. How do u think, any idea ?


Are there any configuration from SA, so they can remove forward header 
from they learning method?


--
Best Regards,
-Rizal Ferdiyan 



Re: complete false hits for BASE64 and LW_STOCK_SPAM4

2007-02-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Jo Rhett wrote:

 Why do I need a custom rule to work around an FP in the ruleset?
 See above.

 It's really hard not to be really annoyed with this answer.  

If you don't like my answers, you're free to not accept my help.

But please keep in mind two things:
1) I often come across as more rude than I'm intending to be because I,
like you might be, am a busy person. I'm often pressed for time, and my
answers tend to be terse, and a bit blunt.
2) I don't also have enough spare time to both offer free help, and
spend time considering my choices of wording. As such, you'll often see
my current moods, knee-jerk reactions, and opinions regarding technical
matters biasing my overall verbiage.

Those are character flaws on my part, and being busy isn't much of an
excuse, but at least I'm working for free.

I also assure you that had I meant to insult you, it would be rather
obvious.

Also consider:
1) I've already spent the time to write a rule for you in an effort to
try to help out.
2) your own choice of wording isn't exactly devoid of annoyances either.

So, if my response was annoying, it's because I slept poorly last night,
had a morning meeting to go to,  found it obnoxious that you insisted an
obviously non-stock configuration was, and my attempt to help was met
with indignation. So my minor annoyance showed through.
 What kind of nonsense did you think my question was?

 If LW_STOCK_SPAM is a SARE RULE, then I am requesting a revision to
 the SARE rule.  Why on the gods green earth would you assume that I
 wanted a fix in the base distribution for a SARE rule?
Fair enough.. However, the custom rule I came up with doesn't deal with
this LW_STOCK_SPAM. It deals with MIME_BASE64_TEXT, which IS a base
distribution rule, but isn't generally a problem for most folks. I would
not want to to suggest the devs should commit a modification to the base
ruleset to fix how this rule interacts with crackberry, because the base
ruleset isn't much of a problem.

As for making a change to the SARE ruleset to fix LW_STOCK_SPAM. Sure..
That said, as noted elsewhere, this rule shouldn't have fired for this
message, which makes me wonder why it fired.




Re: dns query failed for 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com

2007-02-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Stephen Carter wrote:

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 17:49 -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:

Stephen Carter wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm running SA 3.1.1 and have imported openprotect's gpg sig, but when I try to 
run sa-update on this channel with the debug switch turned on I get the error:

dbg: dns: query failed: 1.1.3.saupdates.openprotect.com = NXDOMAIN

Is SA 3.1.1 still supported with this channel?

It appears that they're only publishing updates for 3.1.3 to 3.1.7.



I know I need to udpate SA to 3.1.7 but can't do it just at the moment.
Either update SA or use a different SARE ruleset channel provider.  The 
one I know of will work for 3.1.1. ;)



Daryl

Thanks for the reply Daryl. Looks like I'll have to push through that SA
upgrade then 


...or use the channels I provide (see SARE website or SA wiki) that will 
work with 3.1.1.  Of course, an upgrade wouldn't hurt.




How do you know what versions are supported? Is it
simply performing DNS queries on each version of SA?


Yeah.


Daryl



Re: spamassassin learning method

2007-02-09 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Rizal Ferdiyan wrote:

 I want to create spamassassin learning 
 method, if my client find any spam for their email they can forward it 

The act of forwarding completely changes the message.

The best way is for them to move the message to a folder that you have 
access to. What is the mail server that the messages eventually end up 
on? Sendmail with standard mbox/maildir? Exchange?

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Re: Re[2]: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Loren Wilton

Pardon my ignorance here, but it is full of mis-spellings and phrases that
you wouldn't normally see, so why not just hit those?
aid you to know
C O S T
brroker
ama zing

Peter


1) Most people can't spell these days.  These phrases might hit all over the 
place on ham.
2) These hadn't been used before in spam (except maybe the cost spelling) so 
there was no need for rules for them.


Summary: It would need a mass-check on new rules to see if they were good. 
That said, I expect that new rules will show up soon if this isn't a one-off 
spam.


   Loren



Re: RE: More stock spam + strange cf files

2007-02-09 Thread Loren Wilton

*  2.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM4 BODY: Last week's hot stock scam
*  1.7 SARE_LWSYMFMT BODY: SARE_LWSYMFMT

I don't know if these SARE rules have been written since you posted this 
email though...


Nope.  They are rather old.  About the same age as LW_STOCK_SPAM4 that is 
annoying the Blackberry crowd, in fact.  ;-)


   Loren



IADB, 70_iadb.cf and multiple A records returned

2007-02-09 Thread Raul Dias
Looking at the IADB page: http://www.isipp.com/iadbcodes.php , it says:
... When queried, the IADB will return one or more A records 
for any site which is listed in the IADB ...

Now looking at the 70_iadb.cf file from sa-update, most rules are like
this:

eval:check_rbl_sub('iadb-firsttrusted', '^127.2.255.1$')

Doesn't this prevents the test if more than one A record is returned (^
and $)??

Or each check_rbl_sub is called for each A record returned??

If the last one is true, is the ^ $ really necessary? 

If this is set because it is an RE, doesn it need the / / too?
If it really is a RE, what preventes '127.0.0.1' to not match
127.0.0.10? Or 127.1.0.1 to not match 127.120.1.1 ? Shouldn't the dots
be escaped too?


Thats enought for now :)


- Raul Dias



Re: IADB, 70_iadb.cf and multiple A records returned

2007-02-09 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:42:53AM -0300, Raul Dias wrote:
 eval:check_rbl_sub('iadb-firsttrusted', '^127.2.255.1$')
 
 Doesn't this prevents the test if more than one A record is returned (^
 and $)??

No.  They're not all in a string, the match happens against each response
individually.

 Or each check_rbl_sub is called for each A record returned??

No, just one call.

 If this is set because it is an RE, doesn it need the / / too?

Nope.  The code does that for us.

 If the last one is true, is the ^ $ really necessary? 
[...]
 If it really is a RE, what preventes '127.0.0.1' to not match
 127.0.0.10? Or 127.1.0.1 to not match 127.120.1.1 ?

You answered your own question. :)

 Shouldn't the dots be escaped too?

Arguably, yes.  It works out that things like /^127.0.0.1$/ won't match
any other valid IP though, so in the end it's ok, but technically the
dots should be escaped.  Note: I don't recall if the code escapes the
dots for us, but I don't think so.

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