Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Blaine Fleming



I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
are moved some where?


Works fine from here.  Site is reachable and resolves to 72.52.4.74
which pings fine as well.

--Blaine



Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread ram
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:30 +0530, Johnson Jeba Asir wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 First Im realy dont know this is the right forum to ask my doubts?
 
 I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
 are moved some where?
 
 www.rulesemporium.com  resolved to 72.52.4.74, but ping failed for me,
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Regards,
 a.Johnson


Apparently yes. 
Not able to reach rulesemporium from any of my idcs 


Thanks
Ram



Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Yet Another Ninja

On 2/29/2008 9:01 AM, ram wrote:

On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:30 +0530, Johnson Jeba Asir wrote:

Hi All,

First Im realy dont know this is the right forum to ask my doubts?

I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
are moved some where?

www.rulesemporium.com  resolved to 72.52.4.74, but ping failed for me,

Thanks in advance

Regards,
a.Johnson



Apparently yes. 
Not able to reach rulesemporium from any of my idcs 


run trace and report to your ISP.
possibly a bad route

anyway, no SARE rule files have been updated in .months, weeks?

its more than enough if you check once a month...
if there's an update it will be announced here.





Re: sa-update errors

2008-02-29 Thread Arthur Dent
 On 18/02/2008 7:29 AM, Arthur Dent wrote:
 Gentle Bump...

 I thought that the approved place to alter scores was in
 /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf so I have not gone rooting around trying
 to give these rules scores which surely they should have by default?

 What exactly do you mean.  The two halfs of the sentence make no sense
 when combined.

OK Sorry - My lack of understanding of exactly what the error(s) means
meant that I made a poor stab at explaining it.

The error message says: score undef for rule  which I take to mean
that there is to score assigned to this particular rule. Is that correct?

So my question was - if that's what it means - Why is there no score for
these rules? I have not tinkered with anything (that I know of). I have
never seen this error before. And I guess, because I was searching for a
solution, should I be assigning scores manually?...


 Are these new rules? Obsolete rules? Altered rules? Why the sudden
 error?

 I can't remember right now what exactly you have to break to cause these
 errors.  Does your channel file sare-sa-update-channels.txt, include
 the channel updates.spamassassin.org?

Yup...


 Have you recently attempted an upgrade of SpamAssassin?

Nope...

 Daryl



 Or have I misunderstood something?

 Thanks...

 Mark


Any suggestions gratefully received!

Thanks

Mark




 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:27:40PM -, Arthur Dent wrote:
 Hello all,

 I run a bog-standard out-of-the-box (Fedora 8) SA (v.3.2.4)
 installation.

 Every night I run:
 sa-update --channelfile
 /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt
 --gpgkey 856AA88A  /sbin/service spamassassin restart

 as a cron job. Never been a problem before. But this morning I find
 this
 in my root email:

 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
 2140.
 rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
 at
 

Re: sa-update errors

2008-02-29 Thread Arthur Dent
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:40:24AM -, Arthur Dent wrote:
  On 18/02/2008 7:29 AM, Arthur Dent wrote:
  Gentle Bump...
 
  I thought that the approved place to alter scores was in
  /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf so I have not gone rooting around trying
  to give these rules scores which surely they should have by default?
 
  What exactly do you mean.  The two halfs of the sentence make no sense
  when combined.
 
 OK Sorry - My lack of understanding of exactly what the error(s) means
 meant that I made a poor stab at explaining it.
 
 The error message says: score undef for rule  which I take to mean
 that there is to score assigned to this particular rule. Is that correct?
^^
  that there is *no* score assigned... (sorry!)
 
 So my question was - if that's what it means - Why is there no score for
 these rules? I have not tinkered with anything (that I know of). I have
 never seen this error before. And I guess, because I was searching for a
 solution, should I be assigning scores manually?...
 
 
  Are these new rules? Obsolete rules? Altered rules? Why the sudden
  error?
 
  I can't remember right now what exactly you have to break to cause these
  errors.  Does your channel file sare-sa-update-channels.txt, include
  the channel updates.spamassassin.org?
 
 Yup...
 
 
  Have you recently attempted an upgrade of SpamAssassin?
 
 Nope...
 
  Daryl
 
 
 
  Or have I misunderstood something?
 
  Thanks...
 
  Mark
 
 
 Any suggestions gratefully received!
 
 Thanks
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:27:40PM -, Arthur Dent wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I run a bog-standard out-of-the-box (Fedora 8) SA (v.3.2.4)
  installation.
 
  Every night I run:
  sa-update --channelfile
  /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt
  --gpgkey 856AA88A  /sbin/service spamassassin restart
 
  as a cron job. Never been a problem before. But this morning I find
  this
  in my root email:
 
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'NO_RECEIVED' in '' 'NO_RECEIVED' at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'MISSING_SUBJECT' in '' 'MISSING_SUBJECT'
  at
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
  2140.
  rules: score undef for rule 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' in '' 'EMPTY_MESSAGE' at
  

Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Johnson Jeba Asir
Thanks, then It must be a ISP issue, will take up with ISP

Regards,
a.Johnson
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Yet Another Ninja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/29/2008 9:01 AM, ram wrote:
   On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:30 +0530, Johnson Jeba Asir wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   First Im realy dont know this is the right forum to ask my doubts?
  
   I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
   are moved some where?
  
   www.rulesemporium.com  resolved to 72.52.4.74, but ping failed for me,
  
   Thanks in advance
  
   Regards,
   a.Johnson
  
  
   Apparently yes.
   Not able to reach rulesemporium from any of my idcs

  run trace and report to your ISP.
  possibly a bad route

  anyway, no SARE rule files have been updated in .months, weeks?

  its more than enough if you check once a month...
  if there's an update it will be announced here.






Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people
are forging our domain'.

Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.
Time to blacklist google.

Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spamming through
them.  Either case, till google fixes their network and attitude, we should
blacklist them.

SA:
header GOOGLEISBAD received =~ /google\.com/
score GOOGLEISBAD 100

Postfix ACL:
google.com REJECT GOOGLEISBAD


Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com
[72.14.220.156])
by fl.us.spammertrap.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB5C2E11A
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:08:33 -0500 (EST)
Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so2466562fge.45
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:08:32 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;

h=domainkey-signature:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:
content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:precedence:x-auto
reply;
bh=sL3vqqwqMdE5yWWphM0o1dUtNuEzLTPRmNUSyn+hD6s=;

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DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;

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-encoding:content-disposition:precedence:x-autoreply;

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Re: spamassassin: not scanning mails on port 783

2008-02-29 Thread Matt Kettler

Agnello George wrote:

HI
I had installed my Spamassassin on a linux box ( cent os ) to scan 
mails from a windows Smatermail server and  so far it was working 
good, but suddenly it started giving the following error :
 
Fri Feb 29 00:12:49 2008 [27218] info: spamd: handled cleanup of child 
pid 19811 due to SIGCHLD
Fri Feb 29 00:19:18 2008 [27218] warn: prefork: retrying syswrite(): 
Resource temporarily unavailable at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm 
line 729.
Fri Feb 29 00:19:18 2008 [27218] warn: prefork: syswrite(16) to 15822 
failed on try 2 at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm 
line 697.
Fri Feb 29 00:19:19 2008 [27218] warn: prefork: retrying syswrite(): 
Resource temporarily unavailable at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm 
line 729.
Fri Feb 29 00:19:19 2008 [27218] warn: prefork: syswrite(16) to 15822 
failed on try 3 at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm 
line 697.


i then killed the spamd daemon and restarted spamd with the following 
command
 
 /usr/bin/spamd -d -u spamassassin -c -i -A 216.185. -H 
--max-children=7 --max-conn-per-child=128 -s /var/log/spamd.log 
--virtual-config-dir=/vhome/%u/spamassassin -r 
/var/run/spamassassin/spamd.pid -r /var/run/spamassassin/spamd.pid
 
( following are my logs )
 
Fri Feb 29 00:28:21 2008 [20110] info: prefork: child states: II
Fri Feb 29 00:28:53 2008 [20110] info: spamd: server killed by 
SIGTERM, shutting down

Fri Feb 29 00:28:54 2008 [20180] info: logger: removing stderr method
Fri Feb 29 00:28:57 2008 [20182] info: spamd: server started on port 
783/tcp (running version 3.2.4)

Fri Feb 29 00:28:57 2008 [20182] info: spamd: server pid: 20182
Fri Feb 29 00:28:57 2008 [20182] info: spamd: server successfully 
spawned child process, pid 20187
Fri Feb 29 00:28:57 2008 [20182] info: spamd: server successfully 
spawned child process, pid 20188

Fri Feb 29 00:28:57 2008 [20182] info: prefork: child states: IS
Fri Feb 29 00:28:57 2008 [20182] info: prefork: child states: II
 
But now the mails are not being scanned , any idea why is this 
happening  ?
Are all your connections to spamd coming from hosts in 216.185.*.*, and 
NONE from the local machine (127.0.0.1)? You might want to change to -A 
216.185.,127.0.0.1




Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people
 are forging our domain'.
 
 Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.
 Time to blacklist google.

Yep. That's the whole point of DKIM.
 
 Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spamming through
 them.  Either case, till google fixes their network and attitude, we should
 blacklist them.
 
 SA:
 header GOOGLEISBAD received =~ /google\.com/
 score GOOGLEISBAD 100
 
 Postfix ACL:
 google.com REJECT GOOGLEISBAD

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Re: Spamassassin per user blacklisting is not working

2008-02-29 Thread Matt Kettler

Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:

On 29/02/2008 1:18 AM, devi_sreem wrote:
  

I am running spamd. When a mail is being sent to mail account
[EMAIL PROTECTED] it is automatically taking the user qscand, as you
know it the user is of qmail scanner.



Oh yeah, qmail scanner.  Sorry, I won't touch that -- I'm not sure if
it'll do per-user prefs or not.  You may want to look for help on the
qmail-scanner-general list or wait a few hours for someone here to help
(or point you at that list).

  


Agreed, however, the important point is:

Spamd does not, and will not attempt to figure out what user to run as 
using the email contents. It never has, and likely never will. (if 
nothing else, consider that it would have to scan the headers twice to 
do this, and at that it could only look at the To: header, which may not 
be the true recipient.)


spamd is told what user to scan as by whatever client connects to it. If 
qmail scanner is always passing qscand, then spamd will always use qscand.


The qmail-scanner FAQ claims that qmail-scanner will call spamc with the 
-u parameter set to the rcpt to address, however that doesn't look like 
it's happening. There's nothing in your SA config that would cause spamd 
to default to the qscand user, so either the -u parameter is missing, or 
it's not getting the rcpt to address passed to it. Either way, spamd is 
being told to use qscand, the big question is why, and that's a question 
for a qmail-scanner expert.


http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php
-
*What about per-user SpamAssassin configs?*. Q-S calls spamc as |spamc 
-c -u rcpt to| i.e. username is the recipient email address. This 
means the recipient is passed to spamd - and so you can do per-user 
options. Note that this only happens when there is /one/ recipient. If 
you are running spamd with a SQL backend, or the -x 
--virtual-config-dir option, then this should allow you to do per-user 
SA settings. See SA documentation for how to configure spamd accordingly




Re: Good rules for SA

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:28 +0500, Shahzad Abid wrote:
 Dear List
 
 How to determine good rules for SA, I am using following rules.

[ gigantic output of ls snipped, including lots of cf files, plugins and
a bunch of unrelated non-rules ]

 Please identify  which rules are bad?

Pretty much *all* of the third party rules you mentioned are bad, IMHO.
*Unless* you review their respective documentation, rather than throwing
almost anything at your SA you could find...


A few notes and things I spotted glimpsing at the list, why I believe
you missed this important part:

* backhair.cf:  Deprecated since SA 3.0.0, which incorporates most of
  it. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets where you
  got it from.
* 7*_sare_redirect:  The note particularly mentions to NOT use both
  rulesets. However, you got both, the pre and post 3.0.0 variant. See
  http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm

Also, you seem to be using RulesDuJour, which AFAIK has not been the
recommended way to update for quite a while. Instead, use sa-update with
SARE.

As a general note, spam is rather different for anyone. You'll have to
decide yourself which ones are good or bad in your particular case.
Monitor the rules, if they even apply to your spam and remove them after
some time of observation, if they aren't worth the additional overhead.
Using too many of them usually tends to have some bad impact.

Besides pulling in every cf file you can get your hands on, there are
quite a few optional, disabled by default rules and plugins shipped with
SA itself, which just need to be properly configured or don't apply to
all environments. Only you can decide to use them. Hint: language
specific stuff and features that depend on optional Perl modules. See
the documentation and spamassassin debug output.


If you don't want to or can't identify good and bad rulesets yourself,
you should stick with a vanilla setup. The developers and the QA process
already have done a general decision about good rules -- this is, what
the SA distribution includes by default.

  guenther


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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Ed Kasky

At 12:08 AM Friday, 2/29/2008, blaine wrote -=


I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
are moved some where?


Works fine from here.  Site is reachable and resolves to 72.52.4.74
which pings fine as well.


Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 80 
degrees yesterday:


traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  ns5gt.wrenkasky.com (10.10.10.1)  0.620 ms  0.809 ms  1.058 ms
 2  router.wrenkasky.com (216.102.129.41)  13.910 ms  19.470 ms  24.269 ms
 3  dist4-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (67.114.50.66)  29.160 
ms  34.044 ms  38.922 ms
 4  bb2-g10-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.92.198)  85.450 
ms  86.375 ms  87.311 ms

 5  151.164.93.167 (151.164.93.167)  70.757 ms  71.946 ms  72.868 ms
 6  151.164.251.214 (151.164.251.214)  74.810 ms  76.133 ms  80.781 ms
 7  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  144.269 ms  72.000 ms  71.572 ms
 8  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  100.388 ms  102.816 ms  107.478 ms
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
--snip--
30  * * *


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Randomly Generated Quote (1178 of 1364):
This world is divided roughly into three kinds of nations: those that spend
lots of money to keep their weight down; those whose people eat to live;
and those whose people don't know where their next meal is coming from.
-David S. Landes, author, professor of economics and history (1924- )



Re: China TLD links

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:04 -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
 Of course, now that I've used the word whore three times and quoted it
 once I'm sure I'll get a deluge of bounces (not rejects) from people
 running Microsoft's Antigen for SMTP.
 
 http://daryl.dostech.ca/blog/2008/02/22/microsoft-antigen-brain-dead-content-filter/

Yes!

There's at least one user on this list, somewhere behind an MS Antigen
for SMTP, apparently run by psp.com (thank you, Sony), which has been
bugging me a couple times already when answering questions. The OP dared
to munge private email addresses:

  Filter name: KEYWORD= spam: xxx 

I would not have expected anyone on *this* list to run such a stupid
single-word content filter. But hey, the subscriber is unlikely to get
a lot of traffic from this list anyway passed beyond that wall...

I'm curious to see the reason for /dev/null'ing this mail and instead
send out a useless and annoying note. Which one will win the race, whore
or triple x? :)

  guenther


-- 
char *t=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: China TLD links

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 11:36 -0800, JP Kelly wrote:
 any takers on this?

On what?  The Subject or the not included original post?


 On Feb 27, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Chip M. wrote:
  The main thing that stands out (to me) is the China TLD in the URL.
  We block all those on sight (unless they're in the recipient's  
  domain skip
  list - so far, none of my users have any China TLDs in theirs).
 
  Perhaps one of the regex gurus will whip you up a rule. :)

While I understood this comment more generally, aiming at some rules to
catch the provided spample -- if you actually are after an RE to score
on China TLDs, here you go. That much should be easy:

uri  TLD_CHINA  m,https?://([-\w]+\.)+cn(/|$),

  guenther


-- 
char *t=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: China TLD links

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
We got a tie!

 I'm curious to see the reason for /dev/null'ing this mail and instead
 send out a useless and annoying note. Which one will win the race, whore
 or triple x? :)

Though the photo-finish seems to suggest the whore pipped triple x at
the post...

Filter name: KEYWORD= profanity: whore;sexual discrimination: whore;spam: xxx 

  guenther


-- 
char *t=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: China TLD links

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 08:54 -0500, Randy Ramsdell wrote:
 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

 Blocking is one thing, but scoring is another. Aren't single words 
 defined in many rules for spamassassin?  I know fsck
 and v%%gra are which are not part of a meta rule.

Exactly my point, and I believe Daryl's, too. After all, this is what
scoring is all about in SA.

 I do agree, however, anything M$ does is stupid.

That I did not say, neither imply. Regardless of the fact I don't
particularly like MS. Also it is not MS sending these brain-dead
bounces. It is the admins duty to pick the right tool for the job and
avoid tools like this that doesn't serve any purpose.

  guenther


-- 
char *t=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread User for SpamAssassin Mail List

I have the same problem here:

traceroute to www.rulesemporium.com (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 38 byte
packets
 1  roxanne.pcez.com (209.102.124.1)  0.179 ms  0.146 ms  0.143 ms
 2  52.ATM5-0.GW9.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.180.65)  3.016 ms  3.190 ms  2.917 ms
 3  0.so-4-3-0.XT2.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.254)  3.397 ms  3.131 ms  3.121 ms
 4  0.so-3-0-0.XL2.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.146)  17.919 ms  17.896 ms  17.895 
ms
 5  POS7-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.245)  19.365 ms  19.351 ms  19.328 ms
 6  teliasonera-test-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.215.70)  21.223 ms  21.364 
ms  21.248 ms
 7  las-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.17)  30.684 ms  30.711 ms  30.628 ms
 8  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  71.889 ms  71.869 ms  71.875 ms
 9  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  98.787 ms  98.759 ms  98.765 ms
10  * * *


Ken

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, David Filion wrote:

 Ed Kasky wrote:
  At 12:08 AM Friday, 2/29/2008, blaine wrote -=
 
  I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
  are moved some where?
 
  Works fine from here.  Site is reachable and resolves to 72.52.4.74
  which pings fine as well.
 
  Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 80
  degrees yesterday:
 
  traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
   1  ns5gt.wrenkasky.com (10.10.10.1)  0.620 ms  0.809 ms  1.058 ms
   2  router.wrenkasky.com (216.102.129.41)  13.910 ms  19.470 ms  24.269 ms
   3  dist4-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (67.114.50.66)  29.160 ms  34.044
  ms  38.922 ms
   4  bb2-g10-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.92.198)  85.450 ms  86.375
  ms  87.311 ms
   5  151.164.93.167 (151.164.93.167)  70.757 ms  71.946 ms  72.868 ms
   6  151.164.251.214 (151.164.251.214)  74.810 ms  76.133 ms  80.781 ms
   7  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  144.269 ms  72.000 ms
  71.572 ms
   8  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  100.388 ms  102.816 ms
  107.478 ms
   9  * * *
  10  * * *
  11  * * *
  12  * * *
  --snip--
  30  * * *
 
 

 Half / half here.

  From one server it doesn't work:

 traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
   1  heroine.xprima.com (207.96.225.62)  0.621 ms   0.649 ms   0.695 ms
   2  ia-piex-gw06-vl1219.vtl.net (207.253.197.1)  1.667 ms   1.366 ms   0.978 
 ms
   3  216.113.123.9 (216.113.123.9)  1.721 ms   1.593 ms   1.248 ms
   4  ia-piex-bb04-pos11-0-0-cpe082.vtl.net (216.113.122.82)  14.211 ms * *
   5  sl-tisca1-60020-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.37.150)  11.102 ms   11.099 ms
23.997 ms
   6  so-0-0-0.mia11.ip.tiscali.net (89.149.186.45)  46.055 ms   46.032 ms
 46.057 ms
   7  prolexic-gw.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.73.38)  46.046 ms   46.059 ms   
 45.550 ms
   8  * * *
   9  * * *
 --snip--
 30  * * *


  From a second server it does:

 traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
   1  erx02.tor.pppoe.ca (206.248.154.120)  52.137 ms  47.751 ms  49.089 ms
   2  i2110.border1.pppoe.ca (206.248.155.249)  48.226 ms  47.784 ms  47.483 ms
   3  65.39.198.249 (65.39.198.249)  46.819 ms  48.314 ms  47.175 ms
   4  oc48-po4-0.nyc-telx-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.126)  56.828 ms  57.145
 ms  56.887 ms
   5  oc48-po3-0.nyc-75bre-dis-1.peer1.net (216.187.115.134)  58.735 ms  57.571
 ms  58.153 ms
   6  oc48-po2-0.wdc-eqx-dis-1.peer1.net (216.187.115.54)  63.232 ms  64.553 ms
   63.534 ms
   7  * * *
   8  unknown.hwng.net (69.16.190.161)  85.520 ms  86.509 ms  85.609 ms
   9  1-1.r1.lo.hwng.net (69.16.191.50)  153.904 ms  154.564 ms  154.897 ms
 10  unknown.hwng.net (69.16.189.66)  148.284 ms  148.410 ms  148.168 ms
 11  unknown.prolexic.com (209.200.156.34)  147.512 ms  148.232 ms  148.250 ms
 12  unknown.prolexic.com (72.52.4.74)  147.229 ms  148.328 ms  148.167 ms



 David




Re: China TLD links

2008-02-29 Thread Randy Ramsdell

Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:04 -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
  

Of course, now that I've used the word whore three times and quoted it
once I'm sure I'll get a deluge of bounces (not rejects) from people
running Microsoft's Antigen for SMTP.

http://daryl.dostech.ca/blog/2008/02/22/microsoft-antigen-brain-dead-content-filter/



Yes!

There's at least one user on this list, somewhere behind an MS Antigen
for SMTP, apparently run by psp.com (thank you, Sony), which has been
bugging me a couple times already when answering questions. The OP dared
to munge private email addresses:

  Filter name: KEYWORD= spam: xxx 

I would not have expected anyone on *this* list to run such a stupid
single-word content filter. But hey, the subscriber is unlikely to get
a lot of traffic from this list anyway passed beyond that wall...

I'm curious to see the reason for /dev/null'ing this mail and instead
send out a useless and annoying note. Which one will win the race, whore
or triple x? :)

  guenther

  
Blocking is one thing, but scoring is another. Aren't single words 
defined in many rules for spamassassin?  I know fsck
and v%%gra are which are not part of a meta rule. I do agree, however, 
anything M$ does is stupid.




Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread DAve

User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:

I have the same problem here:

traceroute to www.rulesemporium.com (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 38 byte
packets
 1  roxanne.pcez.com (209.102.124.1)  0.179 ms  0.146 ms  0.143 ms
 2  52.ATM5-0.GW9.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.180.65)  3.016 ms  3.190 ms  2.917 ms
 3  0.so-4-3-0.XT2.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.254)  3.397 ms  3.131 ms  3.121 ms
 4  0.so-3-0-0.XL2.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.146)  17.919 ms  17.896 ms  17.895 
ms
 5  POS7-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.245)  19.365 ms  19.351 ms  19.328 ms
 6  teliasonera-test-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.215.70)  21.223 ms  21.364 
ms  21.248 ms
 7  las-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.17)  30.684 ms  30.711 ms  30.628 ms
 8  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  71.889 ms  71.869 ms  71.875 ms
 9  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  98.787 ms  98.759 ms  98.765 ms
10  * * *


Ken

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, David Filion wrote:


Ed Kasky wrote:

At 12:08 AM Friday, 2/29/2008, blaine wrote -=


I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
are moved some where?

Works fine from here.  Site is reachable and resolves to 72.52.4.74
which pings fine as well.

Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 80
degrees yesterday:

traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  ns5gt.wrenkasky.com (10.10.10.1)  0.620 ms  0.809 ms  1.058 ms
 2  router.wrenkasky.com (216.102.129.41)  13.910 ms  19.470 ms  24.269 ms
 3  dist4-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (67.114.50.66)  29.160 ms  34.044
ms  38.922 ms
 4  bb2-g10-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.92.198)  85.450 ms  86.375
ms  87.311 ms
 5  151.164.93.167 (151.164.93.167)  70.757 ms  71.946 ms  72.868 ms
 6  151.164.251.214 (151.164.251.214)  74.810 ms  76.133 ms  80.781 ms
 7  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  144.269 ms  72.000 ms
71.572 ms
 8  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  100.388 ms  102.816 ms
107.478 ms
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *


Same result from Indiana USA, dies at telia.net.

DAve

--
Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for
veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now?


Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Marc Perkel



Michael Scheidell wrote:

Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people
are forging our domain'.

Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.
Time to blacklist google.

Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spamming through
them.  Either case, till google fixes their network and attitude, we should
blacklist them.

  


Some people might think you are over reacting 

I can only imagine what it would be like trying to control outgoing spam 
at Google.


--
Marc Perkel - Sales/Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.junkemailfilter.com
Junk Email Filter dot com
415-992-3401



Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ken A

Michael Scheidell wrote:

Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people
are forging our domain'.

Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.
Time to blacklist google.

Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spamming through
them.  Either case, till google fixes their network and attitude, we should
blacklist them.

SA:
header GOOGLEISBAD received =~ /google\.com/
score GOOGLEISBAD 100

Postfix ACL:
google.com REJECT GOOGLEISBAD


Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com
[72.14.220.156])
by fl.us.spammertrap.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB5C2E11A
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:08:33 -0500 (EST)
Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so2466562fge.45
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:08:32 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;

h=domainkey-signature:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:

content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:precedence:x-auto
reply;
bh=sL3vqqwqMdE5yWWphM0o1dUtNuEzLTPRmNUSyn+hD6s=;

b=razzMn3uCoyrvZErxj1Nud67bPfwzrESFSZM+Oo06FGxw00Dhg3wvDn7MCloiNk3eHA7zkNr/u

7LjInJ+LCl1KmHOi1AQENVOaVjt82b6o43N6/hUGivDC3HRSSRi9eYFouvmVufkwzxM9Y/Bvbx9Z
KnyXtB+ofa/k1SjY+tgbY=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;

h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer

-encoding:content-disposition:precedence:x-autoreply;

b=VFo5w/0cZsC3zDwg0h6+rKfTF+UgIcOUinVWWXe1xHzRan7ZkVlYcIrNnjc+KELNRoOyYu8EBg

3/ZgSF+WCoBXyYyipZxpqnr4+wAorfmYth0Kbe4PW4NR//kLL6CvVIRQZ4gkUf/NMccUWBgjRIKB
F43RHr0X34LkhbF9sjYm4=
Received: by 10.86.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr9872622fgc.69.1204268912528;
Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:08:32 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Are there any X- headers?
It's known that the captcha was cracked and that some webmail 
auto-responders are being abused.

There might be a better way to ID this mail.
Ken

--
Ken Anderson
Pacific.Net


Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Well, same here, from Argentina

2008/2/29, DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:
   I have the same problem here:
  
   traceroute to www.rulesemporium.com (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 38 byte
   packets
1  roxanne.pcez.com (209.102.124.1)  0.179 ms  0.146 ms  0.143 ms
2  52.ATM5-0.GW9.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.180.65)  3.016 ms  3.190 ms  
 2.917 ms
3  0.so-4-3-0.XT2.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.254)  3.397 ms  3.131 ms  
 3.121 ms
4  0.so-3-0-0.XL2.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.146)  17.919 ms  17.896 ms  
 17.895 ms
5  POS7-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.245)  19.365 ms  19.351 ms  
 19.328 ms
6  teliasonera-test-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.215.70)  21.223 ms  
 21.364 ms  21.248 ms
7  las-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.17)  30.684 ms  30.711 ms  30.628 ms
8  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  71.889 ms  71.869 ms  71.875 ms
9  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  98.787 ms  98.759 ms  98.765 ms
   10  * * *
  
  
   Ken
  
   On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, David Filion wrote:
  
   Ed Kasky wrote:
   At 12:08 AM Friday, 2/29/2008, blaine wrote -=
  
   I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
   are moved some where?
   Works fine from here.  Site is reachable and resolves to 72.52.4.74
   which pings fine as well.
   Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 80
   degrees yesterday:
  
   traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  ns5gt.wrenkasky.com (10.10.10.1)  0.620 ms  0.809 ms  1.058 ms
2  router.wrenkasky.com (216.102.129.41)  13.910 ms  19.470 ms  24.269 
 ms
3  dist4-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (67.114.50.66)  29.160 ms  34.044
   ms  38.922 ms
4  bb2-g10-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.92.198)  85.450 ms  86.375
   ms  87.311 ms
5  151.164.93.167 (151.164.93.167)  70.757 ms  71.946 ms  72.868 ms
6  151.164.251.214 (151.164.251.214)  74.810 ms  76.133 ms  80.781 ms
7  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  144.269 ms  72.000 ms
   71.572 ms
8  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  100.388 ms  102.816 ms
   107.478 ms
9  * * *
   10  * * *
   11  * * *
   12  * * *


 Same result from Indiana USA, dies at telia.net.

Dies at Telia...



  DAve


  --
  Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for
  veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now?


Luis
-- 
-
GNU-GPL: May The Source Be With You...
Linux Registered User #448382.
When I grow up, I wanna be like Theo...
-


Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Evan Platt

At 06:16 AM 2/29/2008, Marc Perkel wrote:


Some people might think you are over reacting 

I can only imagine what it would be like trying to control outgoing 
spam at Google.


The problem is Google does nothing.

I've reported dozens of google groups newsgroup spammers. They take 
no action. What few spammers they have taken action against, they 
have a 'defect' in their system where basically for their blogspot 
services, if they cancel a blogspot webpage for someone who spams, 
there's nothing to prevent the same person from signing back up and 
recreating the blogspot site again.


Yes, I have spam I've reported to them as far back as 2006, with 
absolutely no action taken.


I drop all Google Groups posts in my usenet client.



Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Mark Johnson

Michael Scheidell wrote:
Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because 
people

are forging our domain'.

Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.
Time to blacklist google.


I read an article the other day about the bad people have cracked 
gmail's captcha system and are automatically creating gmail accounts 
with a success rate of 1 in 5.


http://www.virusbtn.com/news/2008/02_26.xml

--
Mark Johnson
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sa-learn user problem

2008-02-29 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Hello,
my mac os x leopard (10.5.2 with updated amavis-new and spamassassin)
runs a script, which calls sa-learn with sudo and user _amavis.
In the config files for amavis and clamAV the user is set to _amavis.
Now sa-learn always tries to open /var/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs,
which of course fails.

Where or how can I correct this problem?

Thanks and all the best

Matthias



Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread David Filion

Ed Kasky wrote:

At 12:08 AM Friday, 2/29/2008, blaine wrote -=


I was not able to access http://www.rulesemporium.com? is this working
are moved some where?


Works fine from here.  Site is reachable and resolves to 72.52.4.74
which pings fine as well.


Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 80 
degrees yesterday:


traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  ns5gt.wrenkasky.com (10.10.10.1)  0.620 ms  0.809 ms  1.058 ms
 2  router.wrenkasky.com (216.102.129.41)  13.910 ms  19.470 ms  24.269 ms
 3  dist4-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (67.114.50.66)  29.160 ms  34.044 
ms  38.922 ms
 4  bb2-g10-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.92.198)  85.450 ms  86.375 
ms  87.311 ms

 5  151.164.93.167 (151.164.93.167)  70.757 ms  71.946 ms  72.868 ms
 6  151.164.251.214 (151.164.251.214)  74.810 ms  76.133 ms  80.781 ms
 7  dls-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.14)  144.269 ms  72.000 ms  
71.572 ms
 8  mai-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.62)  100.388 ms  102.816 ms  
107.478 ms

 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
--snip--
30  * * *




Half / half here.

From one server it doesn't work:

traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  heroine.xprima.com (207.96.225.62)  0.621 ms   0.649 ms   0.695 ms
 2  ia-piex-gw06-vl1219.vtl.net (207.253.197.1)  1.667 ms   1.366 ms   0.978 ms
 3  216.113.123.9 (216.113.123.9)  1.721 ms   1.593 ms   1.248 ms
 4  ia-piex-bb04-pos11-0-0-cpe082.vtl.net (216.113.122.82)  14.211 ms * *
 5  sl-tisca1-60020-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.37.150)  11.102 ms   11.099 ms 
  23.997 ms
 6  so-0-0-0.mia11.ip.tiscali.net (89.149.186.45)  46.055 ms   46.032 ms 
46.057 ms

 7  prolexic-gw.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.73.38)  46.046 ms   46.059 ms   45.550 
ms
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
--snip--
30  * * *


From a second server it does:

traceroute to 72.52.4.74 (72.52.4.74), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  erx02.tor.pppoe.ca (206.248.154.120)  52.137 ms  47.751 ms  49.089 ms
 2  i2110.border1.pppoe.ca (206.248.155.249)  48.226 ms  47.784 ms  47.483 ms
 3  65.39.198.249 (65.39.198.249)  46.819 ms  48.314 ms  47.175 ms
 4  oc48-po4-0.nyc-telx-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.126)  56.828 ms  57.145 
ms  56.887 ms
 5  oc48-po3-0.nyc-75bre-dis-1.peer1.net (216.187.115.134)  58.735 ms  57.571 
ms  58.153 ms
 6  oc48-po2-0.wdc-eqx-dis-1.peer1.net (216.187.115.54)  63.232 ms  64.553 ms 
 63.534 ms

 7  * * *
 8  unknown.hwng.net (69.16.190.161)  85.520 ms  86.509 ms  85.609 ms
 9  1-1.r1.lo.hwng.net (69.16.191.50)  153.904 ms  154.564 ms  154.897 ms
10  unknown.hwng.net (69.16.189.66)  148.284 ms  148.410 ms  148.168 ms
11  unknown.prolexic.com (209.200.156.34)  147.512 ms  148.232 ms  148.250 ms
12  unknown.prolexic.com (72.52.4.74)  147.229 ms  148.328 ms  148.167 ms



David


Sorry for the duplicate messages

2008-02-29 Thread Marc Perkel
The last two messages I sent were duplicated on this list. I'm not sure 
why and I hope this one isn't duplicated. I'm using Exim and I'm only 
seeing one entry in my log. If anyone knows what might be causing this 
I'd be more than happy to fix the problem. Until then, I apologize for 
the dups.



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Re: sa-learn user problem

2008-02-29 Thread Diego Pomatta

Matthias Schmidt escribió:

Hello,
my mac os x leopard (10.5.2 with updated amavis-new and spamassassin)
runs a script, which calls sa-learn with sudo and user _amavis.
In the config files for amavis and clamAV the user is set to _amavis.
Now sa-learn always tries to open /var/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs,
which of course fails.

Where or how can I correct this problem?

Thanks and all the best

Matthias

  


I had a similar problem and Luis Otegui suggested I used
# su user -c 'command'

...and it worked. Try it.

Regards
/Diego





some custom ruleset rule info please

2008-02-29 Thread RobertH

In regards to

backhair.cf

backhair is a set of rules designed to catch those ugly, unsightly HTML
tags.  Created by: Jennifer Wheeler

are unsightly HTML tags just referring to basic HTML coding or something
else we should better understand as spam fighting warriors

Thank you

 - rh




spamass-milter goes to 100% CPU on freebsd 6.3

2008-02-29 Thread Aflatoon Aflatooni
Hi,
  I have installed spamassassin on my freebsd 6.3 and everything works great 
but after some time (it could be couple of days, or hours) the CPU utilization 
on spamass-milter goes to almost 100%.
  I have discovered that the following messages cause the 100% utilization:
   
  Feb 29 04:22:32 sara sm-mta[27844]: m1T9MQ2W027844: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=1721, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, 
daemon=IPv4, relay=[58.137.142.102]
Feb 29 04:22:32 sara sm-mta[27845]: m1T9MQgb027845: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=1737, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, 
daemon=IPv4, relay=[58.137.142.102]
Feb 29 04:22:32 sara spamd[27027]: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
at port 61494
Feb 29 04:22:32 sara spamd[27027]: spamd: processing message [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] for root:58
   
   
  Notice that sendmail receives two messages from the same relay by the same 
person with almost the same msgid, one is a057... and the other one is a056...
You see from the log that the second one is processed by spamd, but the first 
one causes the high cpu utilization in spam-milter. Since it is spam-milter and 
not sendmail that is having problem I am thinking that there is something in 
that message that is not liked by SpamAssassin.
How can I get more information logged about the message so I can find the 
root-cause? Has anyone else come across this problem?
   
  I have also posted this problem on bsdforums, because I wasn't sure if it is 
a problem with freebsd:
  http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?p=289253#post289253
   
  Many thanks
  Aflatoon

   
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RE: Sorry for the duplicate messages

2008-02-29 Thread Robert - elists

 
 The last two messages I sent were duplicated on this list. I'm not sure
 why and I hope this one isn't duplicated. I'm using Exim and I'm only
 seeing one entry in my log. If anyone knows what might be causing this
 I'd be more than happy to fix the problem. Until then, I apologize for
 the dups.
 
 

Marc

Don't feel bad, the list software allowed me to post from an email address I
did not subscribe

Thing is, I had to unsubscribe that email address.

What is going on behind the scenese?

:-)

 - rh



aren't SPF_ rules network?

2008-02-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello,

I wonder if SPF rules shouldn't be considered network... they require DNS
lookups, don't they?
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Perl problem (Scalar::Util)

2008-02-29 Thread Steven Stern

I'm getting the following error from various perl programs:

$sa-update
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Scalar/Util.pm line 30.


OK... maybe we need an update:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# perl -MCPAN -e shell
cpan install Scalar::Util
CPAN: Storable loaded ok
Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:31:08 GMT
Scalar::Util is up to date.

Anyone have a solution?



Re: aren't SPF_ rules network?

2008-02-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 29/02/2008 1:11 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I wonder if SPF rules shouldn't be considered network... they require DNS
 lookups, don't they?

Network, no... the rules just need a suitable message, SA and a Perl
interpreter. :)

Seriously though, the SPF plugin (in 3.2+) can reuse the results from
Received-SPF headers, if present, without doing any lookups itself.  So
it's not strictly a DNS based test itself.

The plugin will not attempt lookups if you do not have network checks
enabled (not using scoresets 1 or 3).  It will only attempt to reuse
results.

If you do have network checks enabled, it will attempt to get results
from the network if there are no results to reuse.

From the M::SA::P::SPF POD:
ignore_received_spf_header (0|1)   (default: 0)
By default, to avoid unnecessary DNS lookups, the plugin will try 
 to use the SPF results found in any Received-SPF headers it finds in the
message that could only have been added by an internal relay.
 
Set this option to 1 to ignore any Received-SPF headers present 
 and to have the plugin perform the SPF check itself.
 
Note that unless the plugin finds an identity=helo, or some 
 unsupported identity, it will assume that the result is a mfrom SPF check 
 result.
The only identities supported are mfrom, mailfrom and helo.
 
use_newest_received_spf_header (0|1)(default: 0)
By default, when using Received-SPF headers, the plugin will 
 attempt to use the oldest (bottom most) Received-SPF headers, that were 
 added
by internal relays, that it can parse results from since they are 
 the most likely to be accurate.  This is done so that if you have an incoming
mail setup where one of your primary MXes doesn't know about a 
 secondary MX (or your MXes don't know about some sort of forwarding relay that
SA considers trusted+internal) but SA is aware of the actual 
 domain boundary (internal_networks setting) SA will use the results that are 
 most
accurate.
 
Use this option to start with the newest (top most) Received-SPF 
 headers, working downwards until results are successfully parsed.

Daryl



Re: aren't SPF_ rules network?

2008-02-29 Thread Randy Ramsdell

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

Hello,

I wonder if SPF rules shouldn't be considered network... they require DNS
lookups, don't they?
  

Yes. Network related.


Re: some custom ruleset rule info please

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:43 -0800, Robert - elists wrote:
 In regards to
 
 backhair.cf
 
 backhair is a set of rules designed to catch those ugly, unsightly HTML
 tags.  Created by: Jennifer Wheeler
 
 are unsightly HTML tags just referring to basic HTML coding or something
 else we should better understand as spam fighting warriors

If I understand your question correctly... The latter. Obfuscation.

You did have a look at the rules file and the rules description, right?
It's about injected HTML tags inside words or to hide part of the
gibberish as a means of preventing plain word matching, IIRC. It's been
a while, but if memory serves me right, Jennifer picked the rules name,
because these stand out like, well, backhair. ;)

Anyway, why are you asking? You're not pondering to use it, are you?

  guenther


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Re: spamass-milter goes to 100% CPU on freebsd 6.3

2008-02-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 29/02/2008 12:51 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:
 Hi,
 I have installed spamassassin on my freebsd 6.3 and everything works
 great but after some time (it could be couple of days, or hours) the CPU
 utilization on spamass-milter goes to almost 100%.
 I have discovered that the following messages cause the 100% utilization:

 Since it is
 spam-milter and not sendmail that is having problem I am thinking that
 there is something in that message that is not liked by SpamAssassin.

Since it's spamass-milter that is going to 100% and not spamd I would
look for a problem with spamass-milter.

That said, you've described the reliability I've come to expect from
spamass-milter.  I would (and do) personally use something else.

Daryl



Re: some custom ruleset rule info please

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 19:57 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:43 -0800, Robert - elists wrote:

  backhair is a set of rules designed to catch those ugly, unsightly HTML
  tags.  Created by: Jennifer Wheeler
  
  are unsightly HTML tags just referring to basic HTML coding or something
  else we should better understand as spam fighting warriors
 
 If I understand your question correctly... The latter. Obfuscation.
 
 You did have a look at the rules file and the rules description, right?
 It's about injected HTML tags inside words or to hide part of the
 gibberish as a means of preventing plain word matching, IIRC. It's been

Meep.  Nope, it is words obfuscated by nonsense html tags, as
mentioned at the location pointed to by CustomRulesets.

So I overlooked that link, and while I had a glimpse at the REs I
overlooked the negation in the lookahead. *sigh*  Time to go look at
something else than a screen...


 a while, but if memory serves me right, Jennifer picked the rules name,
 because these stand out like, well, backhair. ;)
 
 Anyway, why are you asking? You're not pondering to use it, are you?

This stands. :)

  guenther


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Re: aren't SPF_ rules network?

2008-02-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 07:11:05PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 I wonder if SPF rules shouldn't be considered network... they require DNS
 lookups, don't they?

Yes, DNS is required.  What makes you think that SPF isn't considered a
network test though?  Right in the code is:

  return unless $scanner-is_dns_available();

which validates the local-only (-L) option, etc:

  goto done if ($self-{main}-{local_tests_only});


Also, the rules are listed as net rules:

tflags SPF_FAIL   net
[...]
tflags SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL  net

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Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread SM

At 05:09 29-02-2008, Ed Kasky wrote:
Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 
80 degrees yesterday:


The traceroute output doesn't mean that something is broken.

The web site in the subject line has denial of service 
protection.  It may be reachable by some and unreachable to others.


Regards,
-sm 



Re: aren't SPF_ rules network?

2008-02-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 29/02/2008 2:05 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 07:11:05PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 I wonder if SPF rules shouldn't be considered network... they require DNS
 lookups, don't they?
 
 Yes, DNS is required.

Only if there aren't Received-SPF headers to reuse results from (in 3.2
or later).

  What makes you think that SPF isn't considered a
 network test though?  Right in the code is:
 
   return unless $scanner-is_dns_available();

Which comes after the attempt to reuse the Received-SPF headers.

 Also, the rules are listed as net rules:
 
 tflags SPF_FAIL   net
 [...]
 tflags SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL  net

In trunk they are again (jm's r596095).  Before that they weren't, and
still aren't in the 3.2 branch (my r588457).

Now I'm not sure what to do.  We need to generate scores for the rules
for set0 (so they shouldn't have tflags net) but those scores probably
aren't going to be very accurate since I don't think many of the
mass-check contributors have Received-SPF headers in their mail.

http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5842

Daryl





Re: aren't SPF_ rules network?

2008-02-29 Thread Justin Mason
yes.  If they're not marked as such, that's a bug...

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

  I wonder if SPF rules shouldn't be considered network... they require DNS
  lookups, don't they?
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Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* SM [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Time to blacklist google.

 The users may complain if you do that.

To [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem solved!

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Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Ed Kasky

At 11:20 AM Friday, 2/29/2008, SM wrote -=

At 05:09 29-02-2008, Ed Kasky wrote:
Something's broken somewhere.  From sunny Los Angeles where it was 
80 degrees yesterday:


The traceroute output doesn't mean that something is broken.

The web site in the subject line has denial of service 
protection.  It may be reachable by some and unreachable to others.


How then would you explain why it worked just fine up until some 
point this week?  Has the denial of serevice protection been 
tightened up even more??


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Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread John Rudd

Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

* SM [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Time to blacklist google.

The users may complain if you do that.


To [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem solved!



No.  Your users may complain to you that they're unable to receive email 
from colleagues/friends/etc. who use google.


Though, depending on your environment, that may not be a problem.


Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread SM

The abuse contacts were removed from the Cc to prevent abuse.

At 04:51 29-02-2008, Michael Scheidell wrote:

Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people
are forging our domain'.

Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.


If it passes DKIM verification, then it comes from them.


Time to blacklist google.


The users may complain if you do that.

Regards,
-sm 



Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn

Hi!


The traceroute output doesn't mean that something is broken.

The web site in the subject line has denial of service protection.  It may 
be reachable by some and unreachable to others.


How then would you explain why it worked just fine up until some point this 
week?  Has the denial of serevice protection been tightened up even more??


In fact, yes, they are doing upgrades and are part of another company. So 
they might be migrating services.


Anyway, its a free service isnt it. If its not there you just have to sit 
and wait. ;)


And like told, none of the SARE sets were changed in 2008 anyway, so no 
need to check.


Bye,
Raymond.


RE: some custom ruleset rule info please

2008-02-29 Thread Robert - elists
 
 If I understand your question correctly... The latter. Obfuscation.
 
 You did have a look at the rules file and the rules description, right?
 It's about injected HTML tags inside words or to hide part of the
 gibberish as a means of preventing plain word matching, IIRC. It's been
 a while, but if memory serves me right, Jennifer picked the rules name,
 because these stand out like, well, backhair. ;)
 
 Anyway, why are you asking? You're not pondering to use it, are you?
 
   guenther
 
 

Thank you for the info

I looked at the file, yet as a rule making novice it didn't mean a lot to me
so I wondered what it does.

Yes, I was wondering if it was a good idea to include this ruleset.

Should backhair.cf *not* be used anymore with SA or latest SA 3.2.4 or ???

Thanks!

 - rh



Re: Perl problem (Scalar::Util)

2008-02-29 Thread Bill Landry

Steven Stern wrote:

I'm getting the following error from various perl programs:

$sa-update
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at 
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Scalar/Util.pm line 30.


OK... maybe we need an update:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# perl -MCPAN -e shell
cpan install Scalar::Util
CPAN: Storable loaded ok
Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:31:08 GMT
Scalar::Util is up to date.

Anyone have a solution?



For some reason yum perl updates on Fedora 8 cause this to happen for 
me.  Even though CPAN reports that you have the latest version of 
Scalar:Util, you will still need to download, compile, and install 
Scalar-List-Utils-1.19.tar.gz.  This should resolve the issue for you, 
at least it has worked for me the last few perl updates.


GL,

Bill


Re: Is http://www.rulesemporium.com?

2008-02-29 Thread Ed Kasky

At 12:39 PM Friday, 2/29/2008, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote -=

Hi!


The traceroute output doesn't mean that something is broken.
The web site in the subject line has denial of service 
protection.  It may be reachable by some and unreachable to others.


How then would you explain why it worked just fine up until some 
point this week?  Has the denial of serevice protection been 
tightened up even more??


In fact, yes, they are doing upgrades and are part of another 
company. So they might be migrating services.


Anyway, its a free service isnt it. If its not there you just have 
to sit and wait. ;)


And like told, none of the SARE sets were changed in 2008 anyway, so 
no need to check.


Now that was just too logical of an explanation ;-)

Thanks!

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RE: some custom ruleset rule info please

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 13:27 -0800, Robert - elists wrote:

  Anyway, why are you asking? You're not pondering to use it, are you?
 
 I looked at the file, yet as a rule making novice it didn't mean a lot to me
 so I wondered what it does.
 
 Yes, I was wondering if it was a good idea to include this ruleset.

Where did you find that ruleset?

from http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets
 Note: SA 3.0.0 documentation indicates that much of this rule set has
 been incorporated into that version. This file is unnecessary with SA
 3.0.0.

 Should backhair.cf *not* be used anymore with SA or latest SA 3.2.4 or ???

Not with any 3.x version.

  guenther


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RE: some custom ruleset rule info please

2008-02-29 Thread Robert - elists
 
 Not with any 3.x version.
 
   guenther
 

:-)

Oops, my fault... I missed that part even though I was looking for it

What about this Chinese ruleset, anyone in the USA using it to help with
occasional or massive incoming foreign spam?

I would guess it puts quite a load on the system eh?

:-0

Chinese Rules 
Rules to catch spams written in Chinese.
Created by: Quang-Anh Tran, at CCERT Anti-Spam Team
Contact:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
License Type: Apache License 
Status: Active 
Available at:  http://www.ccert.edu.cn/spam/sa/Chinese_rules.cf 
More information (in Chinese):
http://www.ccert.edu.cn/spam/sa/Chinese_rules.htm 
Note : Rules and scores are updated once a week by using spams reported to
the anti-spam service of CCERT in the last 3 months. 
Sample Results: MasscheckChineserules

 - rh



Emails passing through SA with valueless headers

2008-02-29 Thread fLaMePr0oF

Greetings

I have utilised Spam Assasin for many years through a couple of hosting
accounts, however, over recent months I started getting a large volume of
emails that had semingly been passed through by Spam Assasin marked as not
spam but with no values in the other SA headers.  Below is an example of
what the SA headers look like on every single one of these emails... (I've
gotten almost 100 in the last 3 days alone!)

X-Spam-Status: No, score=
X-Spam-Score: 
X-Spam-Bar: 
X-Spam-Flag: NO

Although spam assassin continued to filter out most spam correctly the
volume of these emails being delivered increased until my mailbox was being
inundated and my hosting company were either unwilling or unable to deal
with the problem.  Consequently I recently switched to a different host but
after a week or three of smooth running I started receiving emails with
identical invalid headers, and now I find myself drowning in them once again
with another hosting company seemingly unable to identify or correct the
issue. :-/

If anyone can help me with this I would be MOST grateful, thanks!

fLaMePr0oF 
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ok_locales (was: Re: some custom ruleset rule info please)

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 14:42 -0800, Robert - elists wrote:
 What about this Chinese ruleset, anyone in the USA using it to help with
 occasional or massive incoming foreign spam?

Is there any particular need for additional rules, or are you just
fishing for fun? That's quite a jump from backhair...

Anyway, do you speak or read Chinese? Japanese, Korean, any Cyrillic
language or Thai? I haven't had a look at that particular custom ruleset
you mention, but it sounds like simply using 'ok_locales en' would do if
you can't decypher any charset but Western [1]. If you can, just add
them to the list. See LANGUAGE OPTIONS in the docs.

http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html

  guenther


[1] Yes, that includes German Umlauts, Swedisch, French, etc.
See my recent postings about this the last 2 weeks.

-- 
char *t=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



RE: ok_locales (was: Re: some custom ruleset rule info please)

2008-02-29 Thread Robert - elists

 
 On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 14:42 -0800, Robert - elists wrote:
  What about this Chinese ruleset, anyone in the USA using it to help with
  occasional or massive incoming foreign spam?
 
 Is there any particular need for additional rules, or are you just
 fishing for fun? That's quite a jump from backhair...
 
 Anyway, do you speak or read Chinese? Japanese, Korean, any Cyrillic
 language or Thai? I haven't had a look at that particular custom ruleset
 you mention, but it sounds like simply using 'ok_locales en' would do if
 you can't decypher any charset but Western [1]. If you can, just add
 them to the list. See LANGUAGE OPTIONS in the docs.
 
 http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html
 
   guenther
 

Yeah, I am fishing a little... mainly for people with experience with these
rulesets to speak up as necessary

It is a global world and we have different languages traversing our systems.

You mentioned some of them...

Bottom line is we are looking for ideas for the short and long term future.

We are away of the language setting and are trying to get more well versed
in the various integrations available.

Some of those rulesets are current and work well in 3.2.4 etc

Thank you

 - rh



Re: Perl problem (Scalar::Util)

2008-02-29 Thread Steven Stern

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 02/29/2008 03:57 PM, Bill Landry wrote:
| Steven Stern wrote:
| I'm getting the following error from various perl programs:
|
| $sa-update
| Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at
| /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Scalar/Util.pm line 30.
|
| OK... maybe we need an update:
|
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# perl -MCPAN -e shell
| cpan install Scalar::Util
| CPAN: Storable loaded ok
| Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata
|   Database was generated on Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:31:08 GMT
| Scalar::Util is up to date.
|
| Anyone have a solution?
|
|
| For some reason yum perl updates on Fedora 8 cause this to happen for
| me.  Even though CPAN reports that you have the latest version of
| Scalar:Util, you will still need to download, compile, and install
| Scalar-List-Utils-1.19.tar.gz.  This should resolve the issue for you,
| at least it has worked for me the last few perl updates.
|
| GL,
|
| Bill
|
I found out this also works:

~ $cpan
~  force install Scalar::Util
- --

~  Steve
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RE: ok_locales (was: Re: some custom ruleset rule info please)

2008-02-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann

 Yeah, I am fishing a little... mainly for people with experience with these
 rulesets to speak up as necessary
 
 It is a global world and we have different languages traversing our systems.
 You mentioned some of them...

Which ones? The Western charset ones in the footnote, or the one with
entirely different charsets and symbols?

If you *do* expect legit mail entirely written in Chinese, ok_locales
clearly is not a good way to handle Chinese spam, right.

  guenther


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char *t=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: Emails passing through SA with valueless headers

2008-02-29 Thread fchan

Hi,
This is similar to what I'm seeing. However I get question marks on 
my spam status. Here is a sample header what I'm seeing:


Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=? required=?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Lorena Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Autodesk AutoCAD 2008 OEM version
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:29:50 +0800
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset=us-ascii;
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Spam: Not detected

These are the attributes I see in these messages:
1) They all take long time to process. Longer time than my set 
timeout of 50 seconds.

2) Most of them have phishing links

I'm still trying to out if what is the cause also.

Regards,
Frank


Greetings

I have utilised Spam Assasin for many years through a couple of hosting
accounts, however, over recent months I started getting a large volume of
emails that had semingly been passed through by Spam Assasin marked as not
spam but with no values in the other SA headers.  Below is an example of
what the SA headers look like on every single one of these emails... (I've
gotten almost 100 in the last 3 days alone!)

X-Spam-Status: No, score=
X-Spam-Score:
X-Spam-Bar:
X-Spam-Flag: NO

Although spam assassin continued to filter out most spam correctly the
volume of these emails being delivered increased until my mailbox was being
inundated and my hosting company were either unwilling or unable to deal
with the problem.  Consequently I recently switched to a different host but
after a week or three of smooth running I started receiving emails with
identical invalid headers, and now I find myself drowning in them once again
with another hosting company seemingly unable to identify or correct the
issue. :-/

If anyone can help me with this I would be MOST grateful, thanks!

fLaMePr0oF 
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Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 29 February 2008, SM wrote:
The abuse contacts were removed from the Cc to prevent abuse.

At 04:51 29-02-2008, Michael Scheidell wrote:
Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people
are forging our domain'.

Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google.

If it passes DKIM verification, then it comes from them.

Time to blacklist google.

The users may complain if you do that.

With all due regard for google  all that rot, the one thing they do 
understand is when 10m customers suddenly start yelling cuz they can't send 
an email.  Like many, I have an email account there, but its like taking 2 
baskets to gather eggs in, insurance.  And I pop it with fetchmail as has 
been mentioned on the fedora list just this evening, not by me but as a 
recommendation to another who had something googlemail did screw with his way 
of doing things.

Should that happen, it will get fixed, take it to the bank.

If gmail has a problem, then without a doubt, blacklist them until they fix 
it.  Seems pretty simple to me.

Regards,
-sm



-- 
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There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Warp 7 -- It's a law we can live with.


Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Blaine Fleming


If gmail has a problem, then without a doubt, blacklist them until they fix 
it.  Seems pretty simple to me.
  
I know that the ISP's I run mail systems for would lose their customers 
if they stop getting mail from Google.  The customer attitude is that 
the provider should take measures to block spam but don't you dare block 
a legitimate message for any reason.  Of course, every situation is 
different.  Personally, I'd rather put better filters in place at my end 
than expect Google to control it.  Same goes for Yahoo and Microsoft.  
In theory I think it would be a good idea but just the number of mail 
systems required to get the point across is too high to actually happen 
soon.  Looking at my mail history there is a lot of legitimate mail from 
Google and very little spam (so far).


I do miss the days when spam filtering was a luxury and nobody really 
needed it.  Now I'm running thousands of dollars of hardware to handle 
mail that is about 98% spam with a 99.995% successful filtering rate.


--Blaine


Re: Emails passing through SA with valueless headers

2008-02-29 Thread Evan Platt

At 02:48 PM 2/29/2008, fLaMePr0oF wrote:


Greetings

I have utilised Spam Assasin for many years through a couple of hosting
accounts, however, over recent months I started getting a large volume of
emails that had semingly been passed through by Spam Assasin marked as not
spam but with no values in the other SA headers.  Below is an example of
what the SA headers look like on every single one of these emails... (I've
gotten almost 100 in the last 3 days alone!)

X-Spam-Status: No, score=
X-Spam-Score:
X-Spam-Bar:
X-Spam-Flag: NO

Although spam assassin continued to filter out most spam correctly the
volume of these emails being delivered increased until my mailbox was being
inundated and my hosting company were either unwilling or unable to deal
with the problem.  Consequently I recently switched to a different host but
after a week or three of smooth running I started receiving emails with
identical invalid headers, and now I find myself drowning in them once again
with another hosting company seemingly unable to identify or correct the
issue. :-/


Some information like how you're calling spamassassin, what O/S 
you're running, what the relevant logs say, etc would help. 



Re: Emails passing through SA with valueless headers

2008-02-29 Thread Loren Wilton

X-Spam-Status: No, score=
X-Spam-Score:
X-Spam-Bar:
X-Spam-Flag: NO


X-Spam-Bar is not a standard SA header.  Someone asked about this a few 
weeks ago, but I don't recall the result of the thread.  My best guess at 
the moment is that whatever integration tool you are using is calling SA and 
then putting its own results into the mail message after looking at what SA 
said.  In this canse, maybe either it is failing to call SA or for come 
reason SA itself is failing on these messages, so the tool ends up sticking 
in empty headers.


Tell us what OS you are using and what the mail tools are that you are 
using.


   Loren