Re: FP on RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED

2008-04-05 Thread Matthias Leisi

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Hi list,

FPs on the DNSWL.org rules can be handled best if sent to admins -at-
dnswl.org.

I took up this one, should be resolved shortly (or the entry disabled,
depending on the actual value of shortly...).

Thanks,
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Re: auto-whitelist: open of auto-whitelist file failed

2008-04-05 Thread Yves Goergen

On 05.04.2008 01:18 CE(S)T, Matt Kettler wrote:
Spamd will never be able to access anything in /root/. 3.1.8 shouldn't 
have been able to do so any more than 3.2.4 could, but that might have 
been a bug..


Must have been a bug, yes.

If you're always scanning mail as one user, you can create a 
non-privileged user account and pass that after the -u parameter to 
either spamd (ie: in your startup script) or to spamc (ie: in your 
scan-time calls).


Okay, that works. I've created a new user+group with its own home 
directory, moved the .spamassassin directory from /root into there, 
chown'ed it and then started spamd again.



Just remember to su to that user when running sa-learn.


This is getting a problem now! My spamd user has no access on the 
mailbox directories from which I am usually learning. What's the 
proposed solution for that?


What's the problem? Before the upgrade, I removed all traces from SA 
on the system (locate  rm -rf). 
That was probably unnecessary.. SA will blow itself away if it's already 
present when you go to install it. The only time you run into trouble is 
if you change the PREFIX, and end up with one installed in /usr/ and the 
other in /usr/local.


Switching from CPAN to the tarball, I wasn't sure if this would change.

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Re: dns tests and scoring info for modification

2008-04-05 Thread mouss

Robert - elists wrote:

don't modify standard rule files.

instead, create a /path/to/site/rules/scores.cf (same directory where 
you have local.cf) and override the scores there (use a 0 score to 
disable a test). look at 50_scores.cf to get an idea.


I hope you have valid reasons to disable network tests. they are 
really useful.



Mouss

I wouldn't

I am not concerned with URI tests, I am concerned with dns RBL tests.

We already have them off by default as we have another rbl checking system
before it hits SA.

Much more effective to reject there.

I just need to know where all the dns RBL tests are and if they are just in
one file, or many.

It appears just one file.
  


almost all scores are in  $path/to/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf.

# egrep _(SBL|XBL|PBL|SPAMCOP|DSBL|SORBS|NJABL|AHBL|MAPS) 
/path/to/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf | grep -v URIBL | awk '{print 
score  $2  0}'  scores.cf


should do (MAPS is already disabled in the default config).

Once I know that, then I can search out all the scoring issues and zero them
out in local.cf or something that would not get overwritten on update.

Thanks

 - rh

  




Re: Blank messages

2008-04-05 Thread mouss

Ed Kasky wrote:

On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Matt Kettler wrote:


SM wrote:

At 04:46 04-04-2008, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, in this case it looks purely accidental. That appears to 
be a legitimate HTML document, or at least doesn't appear to be 
intentionally malformed.


In this case, the message wasn't formatted correctly as it's going 
to be rendered as a blank message (excluding attachments) by most MUAs.


Out of curiosity, did you spot where the error in the formatting is? 
I looked at the message and failed to spot it...


Not real sure but could it have something to do with the boundary?

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary=--6622964ADDB6E4
Received-SPF: none (yoda.wrenkasky.com: domain of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not designate permitted sender hosts)
X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6568/Thu Apr  3 09:12:56 2008 on 
yoda.wrenkasky.com

X-Virus-Status: Clean
Content-Length: 3009
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 2

6622964ADDB6E4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ahn nyeong,
^^ this is where the text started but for me was only visible 
if I viewed full headers in pine or viewed the raw message...


I see no problem with the boundary. can you configure your mailers to 
show text instead of html and try again?


For info, thunderbird shows the message (not blank). didn't test with 
other MUAs.


Re: somone running spamtraps?

2008-04-05 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Friday 04 April 2008 15:05:37 Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
 I wouldn't do that: you risk your own inet address to be reported as a spam
 source: most spamtraps are not smart enough to understand you are trying to
 help...

It's ok. we're going to throw that domain away anyway. weird thing is we 
didn't even have anything finished on it.

 Why don't you open a reporting account (free) in spamcop (www.spamcom.net)
 and report those messages there?

good idea. thanks

On Friday 04 April 2008 18:13:59 Benny Pedersen wrote:
 http://www.clamav.org/ submit a file

 lets kill that worm now :=)

will do. thanks.

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Re: Blank messages

2008-04-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hmmm, maybe you schould decrease the score?

Am 2008-04-03 12:47:12, schrieb Ed Kasky:
 I can't seem to catch these emails with blank bodies.  I upped the 
 BLANK_LINES_80_90 score to 3 but the email below didn't get a hit off the 
 rule.
 
 Is there another rule that I don't know about that is designed for 
 blank message bodies?
 
 Thanks in advance on this one.  These things have been plaguing me 
 for some time and no matter how many I run through sa-learn, they 
 never seem to score above a 5...
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 
 yoda.wrenkasky.com
 X-Spam-Level: *
 X-Spam-Status: No, score=5.3 required=6.9 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE,
  ^ 
Here, your E-Mail WAS in the spamfolder I am currently checking...

 RDNS_DYNAMIC,SARE_OBFU_MILLIONS autolearn=no version=3.2.4
snip

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: Blank messages

2008-04-05 Thread SM

At 16:12 04-04-2008, Matt Kettler wrote:
Out of curiosity, did you spot where the error in the formatting is? 
I looked at the message and failed to spot it...


My initial reply was incorrect as it's not a MIME related problem.  I 
viewed the message again after your question.


There's an extra double-quote in the META line.  The HTML is 
malformed which is why the message appear empty in Eudora's built-in viewer.


At 16:23 04-04-2008, Ed Kasky wrote:

Not real sure but could it have something to do with the boundary?


The boundary is correct.

Regards,
-sm 



eudora and password

2008-04-05 Thread dooley2

heoo all,

installed current win version on an xp box, using last paid version of
eudora, inserted 127.0.0.1 in place of POP3 mail server as advised in
manual, but eudora wants a password every time one changes a server
name.and I cannot find one that works.

meaning, I am the admin on this machine, tried my log on (in windows
password) and it doesn't worktried the pop 3 password (which works with
normal setttings) for the server and it doesn't work either. in both cases,
eudora never completes the log in via the spam assassin proxy, to get my
mail.

what, please, should I do?

thanks

dooley
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Re: Spam abuse report plugin

2008-04-05 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 05.04.08 02:04, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 On Fri, April 4, 2008 19:22, decoder wrote:
 
  first hop, thatone might be forged by spammers. So already determining a
  sure source address is something that can hardly be automatised.
 
 well amavisd get the origin ip, and relay ip, why cant spamassassin not use
 that aswell ?

the origin IP can be faked and there may be more relays...
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Re: Spam abuse report plugin

2008-04-05 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 04.04.08 12:16, Eddy Beliveau wrote:
 This subject is very interesting
 
 I received many spams daily and have to manually analyse headers or email 
 content to be able to send abuse report
 
 Is there a tool which can do this for me ?
 
 I imagine some web form (unix/windows) in which I can put a cut/paste of 
 original email (including headers)
 and that tool can prepare abuse complaint automagically.
 
 Does that beast exist ?

what about changing the way? First forward the mail to special address and
then confirm it via webform?

That's how SpamCop works now
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Re: dns tests and scoring info for modification

2008-04-05 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
  don't modify standard rule files.
  
  instead, create a /path/to/site/rules/scores.cf (same directory where 
  you have local.cf) and override the scores there (use a 0 score to 
  disable a test). look at 50_scores.cf to get an idea.
  
  I hope you have valid reasons to disable network tests. they are 
  really useful.

On 04.04.08 12:59, Robert - elists wrote:
 I am not concerned with URI tests, I am concerned with dns RBL tests.

Why not using the skip_rbl_checks option then?

 We already have them off by default as we have another rbl checking system
 before it hits SA.
 
 Much more effective to reject there.

SA checks more blacklist and they can change. IT also checks IP's in
Received: headers so it can check different thing you are checking. 

I think, even if you do RBL checks on different place, you can still use
them in SA
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Re: auto-whitelist: open of auto-whitelist file failed

2008-04-05 Thread Matt Kettler

Yves Goergen wrote:



Just remember to su to that user when running sa-learn.


This is getting a problem now! My spamd user has no access on the 
mailbox directories from which I am usually learning. What's the 
proposed solution for that?

Well, there's a couple of ways to deal with that..

The new fangled way would be to use spamc for learning instead of 
sa-learn.


If you start spamd with the --allow-tell parameter, you can the use 
spamc -L ham, spamc -L spam or spamc -L forget on the message, and it 
will pass it to spamd for learning.


This way you guarantee that the learning runs as the same user you scan 
as. It's also very slightly faster as you don't have to load a perl 
interpreter instance.


Other ways would be:

Make use of groups to grant the user spamd runs as rights to the 
mailboxes. If all the mailboxes have the same group ownership, or you 
can create a group and set them all to it, then just add that to spamd 
user as a supplemental group.


You could also make use of a root cronjob to copy/chown the files 
somewhere that your learner can get to them.


Both of those last approaches have some limitations and won't work in 
all situations, hence I'd suggest the spamc -L method.. However, I do 
caveat that it's a somewhat new feature and I personally have never 
tested it, but several others do use it.





Re: eudora and password

2008-04-05 Thread Matt Kettler

dooley2 wrote:

heoo all,

installed current win version on an xp box, using last paid version of
eudora, inserted 127.0.0.1 in place of POP3 mail server as advised in
manual, but eudora wants a password every time one changes a server
name.and I cannot find one that works.

meaning, I am the admin on this machine, tried my log on (in windows
password) and it doesn't worktried the pop 3 password (which works with
normal setttings) for the server and it doesn't work either. in both cases,
eudora never completes the log in via the spam assassin proxy, to get my
mail.

what, please, should I do?


Could you at least tell us what proxy you're using, or how this relates 
to SpamAssassin ? (SpamAssassin isn't a proxy, but could be hacked into one)







Re: eudora and password

2008-04-05 Thread dooley2

it is a spam assassin proxy 3.2.3.3., for windows.

respectfully, why would I post the question here unless it had something to
do with spam assassin?

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaProxy


Matt Kettler-3 wrote:
 
 dooley2 wrote:
 heoo all,

 installed current win version on an xp box, using last paid version of
 eudora, inserted 127.0.0.1 in place of POP3 mail server as advised in
 manual, but eudora wants a password every time one changes a server
 name.and I cannot find one that works.

 meaning, I am the admin on this machine, tried my log on (in windows
 password) and it doesn't worktried the pop 3 password (which works
 with
 normal setttings) for the server and it doesn't work either. in both
 cases,
 eudora never completes the log in via the spam assassin proxy, to get my
 mail.

 what, please, should I do?
 
 Could you at least tell us what proxy you're using, or how this relates 
 to SpamAssassin ? (SpamAssassin isn't a proxy, but could be hacked into
 one)
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: eudora and password

2008-04-05 Thread Matt Kettler

dooley2 wrote:

it is a spam assassin proxy 3.2.3.3., for windows.

respectfully, why would I post the question here unless it had something to
do with spam assassin?
  


Well, true.. however, from your post it wasn't possible to determine 
much about your setup. It also wasn't even clear you were using SA at 
all, but I assumed you were.


(Note: most folks here, unless you specify otherwise, are going to 
assume you're using SpamAssassin on a unix-like platform with a MTA or 
MDA layer integration, because that's what's common. It was clear from 
your post that's not what you're doing, but it also wasn't possible to 
tell what you are using.)


Regardless, without knowing what proxy I don't think anyone could be of 
much help. After all, you problem isn't with the SA code, it's with the 
proxy code. That's very specific to what proxy you're using.


All I could tell you would be a broad generic statement like the pop3 
password should work, dono why it doesn't. That's not very informative.




http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaProxy
  


That said, based on the version number you posted, I *think* you're 
using SAwin32, which is one of the many proxies mentioned above.


Since this is really a feature of the proxy part of the code, not the SA 
part of the code, you might try their forums:


http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=175673

Someone here might be able to help, but there are not many folks on this 
list using proxies.


Really raw body

2008-04-05 Thread Joseph Brennan


How would I match on a URL like the text below?  This does not work:

rawbody CU_0A /www\.[a-z]+\.(com|cn)=0A=/

Rawbody evidently sees it after it has been decoded from quoted-printable.
The needless use of qp is actually a distinctive sign of this spammer.

Joseph Brennan
Columbia University Information Technology

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=0A=
Soma - real expert in fighting muscle pains=0A=
=0A=
www.fordiscountpharm.com=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=





Re: Really raw body

2008-04-05 Thread Matt Kettler

Joseph Brennan wrote:


How would I match on a URL like the text below?  This does not work:

rawbody CU_0A /www\.[a-z]+\.(com|cn)=0A=/

Rawbody evidently sees it after it has been decoded from 
quoted-printable.
The needless use of qp is actually a distinctive sign of this spammer. 


Use the full type.. however, beware this brings in the headers and the 
body.


Re: eudora and password

2008-04-05 Thread dooley2

ok. thanks for all.

I felet it was worth a shot, even knowing that most would not be using a
windows proxy.

if anything occurs to you...or, certainly, anyone else indulging this
thread...I would appreciate any comments.

thanks.


Matt Kettler-3 wrote:
 
 dooley2 wrote:
 it is a spam assassin proxy 3.2.3.3., for windows.

 respectfully, why would I post the question here unless it had something
 to
 do with spam assassin?
   
 
 Well, true.. however, from your post it wasn't possible to determine 
 much about your setup. It also wasn't even clear you were using SA at 
 all, but I assumed you were.
 
 (Note: most folks here, unless you specify otherwise, are going to 
 assume you're using SpamAssassin on a unix-like platform with a MTA or 
 MDA layer integration, because that's what's common. It was clear from 
 your post that's not what you're doing, but it also wasn't possible to 
 tell what you are using.)
 
 Regardless, without knowing what proxy I don't think anyone could be of 
 much help. After all, you problem isn't with the SA code, it's with the 
 proxy code. That's very specific to what proxy you're using.
 
 All I could tell you would be a broad generic statement like the pop3 
 password should work, dono why it doesn't. That's not very informative.
 
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaProxy
   
 
 That said, based on the version number you posted, I *think* you're 
 using SAwin32, which is one of the many proxies mentioned above.
 
 Since this is really a feature of the proxy part of the code, not the SA 
 part of the code, you might try their forums:
 
 http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=175673
 
 Someone here might be able to help, but there are not many folks on this 
 list using proxies.
 
 

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Re: eudora and password

2008-04-05 Thread Blaine Fleming



installed current win version on an xp box, using last paid version of
eudora, inserted 127.0.0.1 in place of POP3 mail server as advised in
manual, but eudora wants a password every time one changes a server
name.and I cannot find one that works.
  
Not really an SA issue but it is probably a config issue.  Most proxies 
need you to set the pop3 username to the full login credentials like 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' so they know where to send your request.


As someone that was happy with Eudora for the better part of 10 years I 
can say that Eudora doesn't have a password that is causing you problems.


--Blaine