RE: SQL DB schema issue

2008-05-29 Thread Rocco Scappatura
 On May 28, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Rocco Scappatura wrote:
 
 
  Hello,

Hello,

  I'm using SA with SQL support under Amavid-new. My DBMS is MySQL.
 
  I 'm preparing one another Antispam server and I ve installed the 
  latest stable software available.
 
  I ve dumped bayes DB (schema + data) from an already 
 working machine 
  and I ve restore them on the new machine.
 
 
 How did you do this dump?  Which tables did you get?


Thanks for your interesting.. It was a my fault.. Infact I have noted
that the 'amavis' user could not access to all bayes  DB tables other
then 'awl'..

Anyway, now all works fine..

Still thanks,

rocsca


Re: Spam from Gmail Blogspot

2008-05-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 Joseph Brennan wrote:
  Just a few months ago we did not get much spam at all from gmail.
  Something changed.

On 28.05.08 20:24, Bob Proulx wrote:
 One change seems to be that Google's captcha has been broken.
 
   http://www.google.com/search?q=google+captcha+broken

don't they block found pages yet? ;-)
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Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury
We are getting lot of unmarked spam.  The header is as follows:

From: Feed Blaster
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in
15 Minutes !
Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And the message contains:


More and more people are subscribing to feeds every
day and there are millions who are already subscribed.

Thus, your ad will reach a very broad range of potential customers with 
each use of Feed Blaster!

Feed Blaster is the first  only submitter that can submit your
ads to thousands of feeds within a few minutes!

Post your ads where people read them!

- What if you could place your ad into all these feeds ?

Right, that would mean you would have millions of sites
linking to your ad - and millions of users reading your message within
minutes - and my idea actually works


For Full details please read the attached .html file
Usually two html files are attached.  

Are we the only one who are seeing this kind of spam?  If not is there
any rule that can be applied to stop this kind of spam?


Sujit Choudhury
ISLS
University of Westminster

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Re: uri rules

2008-05-29 Thread Matt Kettler

Randy Ramsdell wrote:



How so? How does spamassassin URI check determine Kuxun.cn  in a URI 
as opposed to someone who forgot to add a space after a sentence end?
Well, CN is a rather strange word to start a sentence with, but it 
doesn't know the difference between an intentional domain and a lack of 
spacing. SpamAssassin no more selective than some email clients are. 
There's a word object ending in a . and a valid TLD, so it gets 
treated as a URI.


However, it shouldn't linkify things like : experiment.see  because 
see isn't a valid TLD.



Is it because it is located within the a tag?

The a tag has nothing to do with it.

IIRC, the code that does this runs after all the HTML tags have been 
stripped out, so it cannot have anything to do with it. (i.e.: it runs 
on the same text that body rules see).








Re: Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread ram

On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:52 +0100, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote:
 We are getting lot of unmarked spam.  The header is as follows:
 
 From: Feed Blaster
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in
 15 Minutes !
 Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

These are just few  visible headers. 
see the whole headers. Some email clients ( typically Micro$$oft
Outlook/OWA ) do let you see headers easily, you will have to juggle a
lot to get the headers 


Post the *full* mail on some pastebin , we could run tests against it
and tell you what scores you might get 







Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-05-29 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Please do remember that I am in no way trying to stop or hinder 
you in implementing your fix. The fact that I have other 
suggestions does not mean that I'm opposing you.


Jo Rhett wrote:


I don't trust my users in this context.


Nothing I said implied or required trust in your users.

A lot of work to hack around a simple problem.  The AWL works just fine 
for mail from my users to other my users.  In fact, it works 
exceedingly well for that.  What value is there in separating them?


It would create a difference (a regards the AWL) between 
self-self addressed mail sent from authenticated/local users ans 
similar mail from other systems.


And considering that SpamAssassin doesn't (in many 
configurations) even know what recipient address a message has, 
it might actually be easier than having the AWL ignore mail from 
self-self.


It also might (depedning on configuration) not require any 
changes at all to SpamAssassin.


What alternatives?  So far I've only heard (a) disable the AWL (b) don't 
use AWL it sucks and (c) hack the system to use different AWLs.  None of 
which really make any logical sense to solve the problem.


I also mentioned the having the AWL include the authentication 
state in AWL data key.


As long as the MSA adds authentication info in it's received 
header, this could be fetched from X-Spam-Relays-Trusted pseudo 
header. The changes to do this would not be more difficult or 
invlolved than the changes necessary to exempt self-self mail 
from the AWL AFAICS.


Also, while the adressee of a mail is often available with 
PerMsgStatus all_to_addrs, this function is not very reliable. It 
actually extracts a whole bunch of addresses that might be the 
recipient from the mail header. There is no guarantee that any of 
the returned addresses really are the recipient of the mail.


So, to implement exemption of self-self-mail you first have to 
implement a way for SpamAssassin to know what the recipient 
address is in order to know if a mail is self-self-addressed.


If you do implement your fix and submit it, please make it an option. 
I for one would turn it off since it would not improve things here.



You are the first person to say so.  Can you explain why?


I want the AWL to apply to mail that is addressed from self-self.

Since the AWL also takes the IP address into account and since 
all mail from authenticated/local users here comes from 127.0.0.1 
to the software calling SpamAssassin, I do not have your problem 
here and would not benefit from your fix.


While most mail addressed self-self that comes from external 
systems is spam, every now and then ham addressed from self-self 
do come in from idiotic systems and sometimes from users who for 
some reason is not using our servers when sending mail.


The AWL as it is now does distinguish between good and bad 
mail that are or pretends to be from our users, and I see no 
reason to remove possible benefits of that distinction for mail 
that happens to be addressed to the same user as it's addressed from.


Regards
/Jonas

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http://www.frukt.org/



Re: rDNS none in stats with IPv6

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand

Greg Troxel wrote:

  In my SA stats, the majority (+90%) of email inbound is classified as
  rdns_none.

  I have a suspicion that this is due to the IPv6-IPv4 mapped address
  being written into the headers when I am speaking to a non-native IPv6
  MTA:

  Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (:::140.211.11.2)
  by pearl.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 28 May 2008 09:13:00 -




(I presume you are trying to make this server IPv6 only instead of dual
stack.  


...well, not intentionally. My intentions were/are to make this a fully 
dual-stacked machine that hosts my personal domain that is my first 
fully IPv6 compliant machine that I've configured.



When my machine had a globally routable v6 address I got some
mail over v6 and some over v4, but didn't used mapped addresses.)


Unfortunately, I'm not intently using mapped addresses. :)

I've got a hacked version of Qmail that uses Simscan to fire SA (at 
least I believe this is how it works).


I'll need to go through the Qmail sources to find out where it's writing 
these mapped addresses.


To be honest, I think that the work should focus on fixing the resolver 
(or whatever calls the resolver) to extract the IPv4 address out of the 
mapped address, instead of eliminating the mapped address entirely. 
There are legitimate needs to use mapped addresses.



It seems that your SMTP listener is not correctly doing reverse dns
lookups of mapped addresses,


How can I identify *exactly* what is my SMTP 'listener', and how DNS is 
called, and by what?



and I'm not sure what the right fix is.
Either the SMTP code should notice the mapped address, pull out the v4
address, and look it up, or the resolver should do this automaticall


I agree. I personally think that the mapped address should remain in the 
header however. Although I've never tested sending to a mapped address 
directly, I'll have to...it would be interesting to see how a return to 
a mapped address ends up if my IPv4 BGP peers go down, but my IPv6 stays up.



(generally pretty hard core about this sort of
thing), 


Nice to meet you, I am very much as well (particularly IP and routing :)


dig -x :::140.211.11.2 returns NXDOMAIN on a query of

;2.0.b.0.3.d.c.8.f.f.f.f.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa. IN 
PTR

so I'd guess that it's not a normal expectation for a resolver to
extract the mapped address.


No, I see the exact same thing via FBSD, but seems right. I've been 
going over the resolver code itself lately, so I'll have a look. Perhaps 
it could be fixed right there, and then the SMTP engine (or anything 
else that relies on DNS) could stay the same.



After the lookup issue is fixed, the received header would have the hostname.


This is why I didn't know if it were appropriate for the SA list... 
essentially, I would like to follow up on where in my infrastructure 
this is broken :)


Just think, I set out to set up a simple mail server on IPv6. While 
doing so, I've written more patches for software in the last week than I 
have my whole life...and I'm not even a programmer ;)


Thanks for the input.

Steve





RE: Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury
As requested full header is as follows:


Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from isls-mx20.wmin.ac.uk ([161.74.14.113]) by
isls-exch-be-1.intranet.wmin.ac.uk with Microsoft
SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
 Tue, 27 May 2008 05:42:34 +0100
Received: from [124.236.241.119] (helo=gmail.com)
by isls-mx20.wmin.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
id 1K0r17-0005Sm-8b
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:42:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Feed Blaster
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in
15 Minutes !
Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2008 04:42:34.0297 (UTC)
FILETIME=[14BC6A90:01C8BFB4]

--=_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

--=_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA
Content-Type: text/html; name=Full_Details.htm
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Full_Details.htm

--=_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA
Content-Type: text/html; name=Unsubscribe.htm
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Unsubscribe.htm


--=_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA--



Sujit Choudhury
ISLS
University of Westminster

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-Original Message-
From: ram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 May 2008 12:16
To: Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lot of unmarked spam


On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:52 +0100, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote:
 We are getting lot of unmarked spam.  The header is as follows:
 
 From: Feed Blaster
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in
 15 Minutes !
 Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
 Message-ID: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

These are just few  visible headers. 
see the whole headers. Some email clients ( typically Micro$$oft
Outlook/OWA ) do let you see headers easily, you will have to juggle a
lot to get the headers 


Post the *full* mail on some pastebin , we could run tests against it
and tell you what scores you might get 






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Re: rDNS none in stats with IPv6

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand
Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (:::140.211.11.2)  
by pearl.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 28 May 2008 09:13:00 -


Can someone inform me if this is an SA thing, and if so, where to 
begin looking/testing with the source to correct this issue?



The Received headers are parsed in Received.pm.


Hmmm...just out of curiosity, what is the first entry below used for, if 
Resolver.pm is used for header checks?


pearl# locate Resolver.pm

/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/DnsResolver.pm
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/Net/DNS/Resolver.pm

Steve


Re: rDNS none in stats with IPv6

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand


Hmmm...just out of curiosity, what is the first entry below used for, if 
Resolver.pm is used for header checks?


pearl# locate Resolver.pm

/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/DnsResolver.pm
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/Net/DNS/Resolver.pm


...nevermind, sorry for the noise.

Steve


RE: Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, May 29, 2008 15:15, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote:
 As requested full header is as follows:


 Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
 Received: from isls-mx20.wmin.ac.uk ([161.74.14.113]) by
 isls-exch-be-1.intranet.wmin.ac.uk with Microsoft
 SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Tue, 27 May 2008 05:42:34 +0100
 Received: from [124.236.241.119] (helo=gmail.com)
   by isls-mx20.wmin.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
   (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
   id 1K0r17-0005Sm-8b
   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:42:34 +0100
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Feed Blaster
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in 15
Minutes !
 Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
   boundary==_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2008 04:42:34.0297 (UTC)
 FILETIME=[14BC6A90:01C8BFB4]

envelope seams to come from gmail.com so spf can reject this spam since its
not sent from gmail servers

http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]ip=161.74.14.113r=westminster.ac.uk


Benny Pedersen
Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098





Re: Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On Thu, May 29, 2008 15:15, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote:
  As requested full header is as follows:
 
 
  Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
  Received: from isls-mx20.wmin.ac.uk ([161.74.14.113]) by
  isls-exch-be-1.intranet.wmin.ac.uk with Microsoft
  SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
   Tue, 27 May 2008 05:42:34 +0100
  Received: from [124.236.241.119] (helo=gmail.com)
  by isls-mx20.wmin.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
  (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  id 1K0r17-0005Sm-8b
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:42:34 +0100
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Feed Blaster
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in 15
 Minutes !
  Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
  boundary==_NextPart_000_0012_DAA36BB7.FAA31CFA
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2008 04:42:34.0297 (UTC)
  FILETIME=[14BC6A90:01C8BFB4]

On 29.05.08 15:39, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 envelope seams to come from gmail.com so spf can reject this spam since its
 not sent from gmail servers
 
 http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]ip=161.74.14.113r=westminster.ac.uk

which means you should turn on SPF control, and I recommend even DKIM and
other newtwork rules (razor, pyzor, uribl and DCC if you can)
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Re: rDNS none in stats with IPv6

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand
I've added debugging code to new_dns_packet() and bgsend() 
(DnsResolver.pm) to print out $host, $type and $class to a log file.


What I found is that the mapped address entries are not even seen by 
DnsResolver.pm at all, hence, there is no DNS lookup even attempted on them.


I'm off to find out where exactly the evaluation/gathering of the IP 
addresses takes place, and try to design a regex that will take the 
::: into consideration properly.


What I'd like to have happen is the mapped address sent merrily along 
all the way to the system resolver, then have the system resolver do 
what needs to be done.


Am I taking the right approach here? Or should I have the IPv4 address 
stripped out of the v6 mapped address prior to pushing it through the 
Perl resolver gateways?


Steve





Re: rDNS none in stats with IPv6

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Bertrand

Steve Bertrand wrote:
I've added debugging code to new_dns_packet() and bgsend() 
(DnsResolver.pm) to print out $host, $type and $class to a log file.


What I found is that the mapped address entries are not even seen by 
DnsResolver.pm at all, hence, there is no DNS lookup even attempted on 
them.


Hmmmwhat's worse that I just found out is that *NO* IPv6 addresses 
are being seen by DnsResolver.pm at all.


Steve


Re: rDNS none in stats with IPv6

2008-05-29 Thread Greg Troxel
First, I would advise you not to use mapped addresses unless you really
need to use them.  On BSD, there's a sysctl to control whether v4
connections will match v6 sockets:

 net.inet6.ip6.v6only = 1

Best practice seems to be to have daemons open a v4 and v6 socket
separately, and avoid mapped addresses.  This will get you out of
inverse resolving v6 ipv4-mapped addresses, and get you out of teaching
SA to extract v4 addresses for checks from the mapped addresses.

Then, there's the issue about getting your MTA to resolve v6 addresses.

  To be honest, I think that the work should focus on fixing the
  resolver (or whatever calls the resolver) to extract the IPv4 address
  out of the mapped address, instead of eliminating the mapped address
  entirely. There are legitimate needs to use mapped addresses.

Well, you are of course welcome to that.  I think it will prove harder
than avoiding mapped addresses.


Razor timeout

2008-05-29 Thread Sébastien AVELINE

Hello,

Did anyone experience razor timeout today ? I saw my spools grew and 
grew up, and saw that spamassassin took very long time to check 
messages. I tried to disable plugin after plugin and saw that the 
problem came from razor.

Any feedback would be appreciate.
Tanks by advance.

Sebastien



Re: Razor timeout

2008-05-29 Thread Lukas Garberg

Sébastien AVELINE wrote:

Hello,

Did anyone experience razor timeout today ? I saw my spools grew and 
grew up, and saw that spamassassin took very long time to check 
messages. I tried to disable plugin after plugin and saw that the 
problem came from razor.

Any feedback would be appreciate.
Tanks by advance.

Sebastien

I noticed the same behavior. Decreased the razor timeout to prevent 
queues from

increasing too much. Seems to be back in business now however.

/Lukas


Re: Razor timeout

2008-05-29 Thread Sébastien AVELINE

Lukas Garberg a écrit :

Sébastien AVELINE wrote:

Hello,

Did anyone experience razor timeout today ? I saw my spools grew and 
grew up, and saw that spamassassin took very long time to check 
messages. I tried to disable plugin after plugin and saw that the 
problem came from razor.

Any feedback would be appreciate.
Tanks by advance.

Sebastien

I noticed the same behavior. Decreased the razor timeout to prevent 
queues from

increasing too much. Seems to be back in business now however.

/Lukas

Ok thanks, I'll try that on Monday.




Freemail Domains DNS Lookup

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Perkel
I now have a name based DNS lookup for freemail domains. If anyone finds 
this useful let me know.


example:
dig yahoo.com.freemaildomains.junkemailfilter.com




DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Perkel
I've also created a DNS based list of domains that provide consumer 
dynamic IP address space. I'm using this list internally but thought I'd 
make it public in case others can use it.


Trying to inspire innovation.

Example:

dig comcast.com.isphosts.junkemailfilter.com

This list was created by grabbing the registry barrier part of the 
domain name of IPs from other DNS lists that list the IPs as dynamic.





Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread mouss

Marc Perkel wrote:
I've also created a DNS based list of domains that provide consumer 
dynamic IP address space. I'm using this list internally but thought 
I'd make it public in case others can use it.


Trying to inspire innovation.

Example:

dig comcast.com.isphosts.junkemailfilter.com

This list was created by grabbing the registry barrier part of the 
domain name of IPs from other DNS lists that list the IPs as dynamic.





how about an rsync access? such lists do not change often, so rsync 
seems a better API.


Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Thu, May 29, 2008 20:52, Marc Perkel wrote:

 Here's my list in dnsrbl format. I only do rsync so far to paid
 subscribers or people who I'm trading with.

could you atleast stop posting html on maillist ?

the list is around 60k and the recieved email here is doubled to 129k ://


Benny Pedersen
Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098



SARE_SPOOF included in base rules?

2008-05-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
I just got an email that hit the following:

 *  2.0 SPOOF_COM2OTH URI: URI contains .com in middle
 *  2.3 SPOOF_COM2COM URI: URI contains .com in middle and end
 *  2.5 SARE_SPOOF_COM2OTH URI: a.com.b.c
 *  2.5 SARE_SPOOF_COM2COM URI: a.com.b.com

Did the SARE_SPOOF rules get included in the base ruleset while I wasn't
looking?

The rule definitions are almost the same.

uri SARE_SPOOF_COM2OTH  m{^https?://(?:\w+\.)+?com\.(?:\w+\.)+?com}i
uri SPOOF_COM2OTH   m{^https?://(?:\w+\.)+?com\.(?:\w+\.){2}}i

uri SPOOF_COM2COM   m{^https?://(?:\w+\.)+?com\.(?:\w+\.)+?com}i
uri SARE_SPOOF_COM2COM  m{^https?://(?:\w+\.)+?com\.(?:\w+\.){2,}}i

--
Bowie


Re: SARE_SPOOF included in base rules?

2008-05-29 Thread Michael Scheidell



 From: Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:25:36 -0400
 To: Spamassassin List (E-mail) users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: SARE_SPOOF included in base rules?
 
 SPOOF_COM2OTH

Been a couple of weeks I think.  You are running sa-update, right.  I
remember seeing that rule in my list of 'duplicates' when I ran some
diagnostics a while back.

Also, I downloaded latest 70_sare_spoof.cf and its still there, so I
manually removed them from my copy.


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Re: Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread Joseph Brennan

We are getting lot of unmarked spam.  The header is as follows:

From: Feed Blaster
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Feed Blaster puts your ad right to the screens of millions in
15 Minutes !
Date: 26 May 2008 21:42:41 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Reject if the From field has no @ in it.  That knocked out the
one (1) of these that we saw here yesterday.

Joseph Brennan
Columbia University Information Technology




Re: Lot of unmarked spam

2008-05-29 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Thu, May 29, 2008 21:52, Joseph Brennan wrote:

 Reject if the From field has no @ in it.  That knocked out the
 one (1) of these that we saw here yesterday.

the from was not envelope sender, but yes one could make a header rule for
this in spamassassin :-)

postfix cant see the From: in header test


Benny Pedersen
Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098



Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Blaine Fleming

Marc Perkel wrote:
Here's my list in dnsrbl format. I only do rsync so far to paid 
subscribers or people who I'm trading with.

snip
Dude.  Seriously.  The data is appreciated but next time please post it 
on a website or something.  Your mail pissed off my smart phone!  It 
might not be the best device out there but it normally works for me.


I'm more disgruntled about the frozen device than the email itself so 
feel free to wallop me with a frozen trout or whatever.

--Blaine



Re: Spam from Gmail Blogspot

2008-05-29 Thread AxisInternet
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 I think it's more about spammers, law and security of (mostly) home
 computers. In my employer's company we also notice spam increase from our
 network etc. and google as free mail provider is also just the victim.

Victims? IMNTBHO, if a company is going to provide free email services,
which are going to be exploited as much as possible by spammers, then they
either need to actively police it, secure it from abuse (whatever that
takes) or stop. Otherwise they are part of the problem. Relaying spam as
they do is unacceptable. If us little guys have a server relaying spam, they
will block us in a heartbeat and think nothing of it


Chris



Whitelisting via MySQL

2008-05-29 Thread JDavila
How can I set-up a whitelist via MySql.so SA does not check those 
addresses that are legit. Any help will much appreciated. 

Jeremy Davila 
Systems Administrator
Direct: 646-205-2136

The LanguageWorks, Inc.
1123 Broadway, Suite 201
New York, NY 10010




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Re: Whitelisting via MySQL

2008-05-29 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 29 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How can I set-up a whitelist via MySql.so SA does not check those
addresses that are legit. Any help will much appreciated.


If you don't want SA to check legit addresses, then you need to 
whitelist them in whatever passes the message to SA for scoring (MTA, 
milter, procmail, etc.).


If you use some facility within SA to whitelist, then you can't avoid SA 
processing the message - you may be able to minimize the processing 
through shortcutting, but SA is still processing the message.


So, what exactly gives the message to SA for scoring in your environment? 
Tell us that, and we may be able to provide specific suggestions.


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Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread mouss

Blaine Fleming wrote:

Marc Perkel wrote:
Here's my list in dnsrbl format. I only do rsync so far to paid 
subscribers or people who I'm trading with.

snip
Dude.  Seriously.  The data is appreciated but next time please post 
it on a website or something.  Your mail pissed off my smart phone!  
It might not be the best device out there but it normally works for me.


are you using an old imode phone :) The message was about 125Ko. That's 
less than a small photo (I say this because that's what a smartphone 
is for, no?).


I'm more disgruntled about the frozen device than the email itself so 
feel free to wallop me with a frozen trout or whatever.

--Blaine



hope this mail is ok :)


Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Ken A

Marc Perkel wrote:
I've also created a DNS based list of domains that provide consumer 
dynamic IP address space. I'm using this list internally but thought I'd 
make it public in case others can use it.


Trying to inspire innovation.

Example:

dig comcast.com.isphosts.junkemailfilter.com

This list was created by grabbing the registry barrier part of the 
domain name of IPs from other DNS lists that list the IPs as dynamic.





NJABL  PBL already provide this, AND they are already part of 
SpamAssassin AND they work quite well.
So, while you are 'trying to inspire innovation', you should take note 
of this potential problem:

http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html

Ken

--
Ken Anderson
Pacific.Net


Re: Whitelisting via MySQL

2008-05-29 Thread JDavila
We use exim as a MTA. But our legit e-mail get tagged as spam . So I 
wanted to dump our frequent e-mailers and pump into MySql so they can get 
bypassed. I am using the whitelist_from email command  in the local.cf 
file. and that has over 12K entries . The legit email addresses that I 
specified are still getting tagged. 

I am still new to SA and Exim. I hope this answer your question , and I do 
appreciate your response/help . 

Thanks again . 

Jeremy Davila 
Systems Administrator
Direct: 646-205-2136

The LanguageWorks, Inc.
1123 Broadway, Suite 201
New York, NY 10010




The LanguageWorks, Inc. is an ISO 9001:2000 certified company which: 
Facilitates global communication by providing foreign language 
translation, editing, proofreading, and cultural analysis. Additional 
services include on-site interpreting and document review, foreign 
language page layout, conversion of web sites into multiple languages, and 
multilingual voice-overs for radio spots and video productions.

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
The information in this E-Mail may be confidential and may be legally 
privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the 
intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action 
taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this E-Mail, is prohibited and 
may be unlawful. If you have received this E-Mail message in error, notify 
the sender by reply E-Mail and delete the message.

John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
05/29/2008 05:03 PM

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject
Re: Whitelisting via MySQL






On Thu, 29 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How can I set-up a whitelist via MySql.so SA does not check those
 addresses that are legit. Any help will much appreciated.

If you don't want SA to check legit addresses, then you need to 
whitelist them in whatever passes the message to SA for scoring (MTA, 
milter, procmail, etc.).

If you use some facility within SA to whitelist, then you can't avoid SA 
processing the message - you may be able to minimize the processing 
through shortcutting, but SA is still processing the message.

So, what exactly gives the message to SA for scoring in your environment? 
Tell us that, and we may be able to provide specific suggestions.

-- 
  John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
---
   Have you ever seen a more scarily useless group of people running
   for president?-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
  159 days until the Presidential Election
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Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Perkel



Ken A wrote:

Marc Perkel wrote:
I've also created a DNS based list of domains that provide consumer 
dynamic IP address space. I'm using this list internally but thought 
I'd make it public in case others can use it.


Trying to inspire innovation.

Example:

dig comcast.com.isphosts.junkemailfilter.com

This list was created by grabbing the registry barrier part of the 
domain name of IPs from other DNS lists that list the IPs as dynamic.





NJABL  PBL already provide this, AND they are already part of 
SpamAssassin AND they work quite well.
So, while you are 'trying to inspire innovation', you should take note 
of this potential problem:

http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html

Ken



They have name based lists? Show me where.



Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 29 May 2008, Ken A wrote:


http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html


So how is a proponent of the Hunt down and kill spammers very messily 
FUSSP classified?


--
 John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
---
  Have you ever seen a more scarily useless group of people running
  for president?-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
 159 days until the Presidential Election


Re: Whitelisting via MySQL

2008-05-29 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 29 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We use exim as a MTA. But our legit e-mail get tagged as spam. So I
wanted to dump our frequent e-mailers and pump into MySql so they can get
bypassed. I am using the whitelist_from email command  in the local.cf
file. and that has over 12K entries . The legit email addresses that I
specified are still getting tagged.


12k whitelisted names?!

I would suggest that whitelisting is not the solution you want to be 
pursuing quite yet. Do you understand _why_ so many of your legitimate 
correspondents' messages are being scored as spammy by SA?


Would it be possible to post a few representative messages (raw format, 
all headers intact) to a website somewhere so that we can get some idea of 
whether or not the spammy scores are reasonable?


Also, be aware that whitelist_from is a last resort as the From: address 
is trivially easy to forge.


I am still new to SA and Exim. I hope this answer your question , and I 
do appreciate your response/help .


Well, _I_ can't personally help you with exim, but somebody else may if 
MTA whitelisting turns out to be an appropriate course of action.


--
 John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
---
  Have you ever seen a more scarily useless group of people running
  for president?-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
 159 days until the Presidential Election


Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Blaine Fleming

mouss wrote:
are you using an old imode phone :) The message was about 125Ko. 
That's less than a small photo (I say this because that's what a 
smartphone is for, no?).


Samsung SCH-i760 on Verizon that takes forever to download mail so when 
something longer than about 4k comes in it takes a while.  Doesn't 
really freeze the phone but it doesn't exactly respond well either.  It 
works...mostly.



hope this mail is ok :)

Not a problem!

--Blaine


Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread Blaine Fleming

John Hardin wrote:
So how is a proponent of the Hunt down and kill spammers very 
messily FUSSP classified?


In the US, they would be classified as a felon.

--Blaine


Re: DNS ISP Host List Available

2008-05-29 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 29 May 2008, Blaine Fleming wrote:


John Hardin wrote:

 So how is a proponent of the Hunt down and kill spammers very
 messily FUSSP classified?


In the US, they would be classified as a felon.


Nah, I think that one falls under praiseworthy.

--
 John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
---
  Have you ever seen a more scarily useless group of people running
  for president?-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
 159 days until the Presidential Election