Re: sought rules

2009-11-04 Thread Bowie Bailey
Charles Gregory wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>> The SA core rules are not updated very often.  For the most part, they
>> just work.  If you are not already doing so, you may want to consider
>> Justin's Sought ruleset.  It is dynamically generated and updated every
>> 4 hours or so.
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules
>
> Is there a way to examine the sought rules *before* installing them into
> my spamassassin? Or at least a 'readme' so that if I download them via
> sa-update I can know which files will be created and how to remove them.

The sa-update channel will put the rules into
"/var/lib/spamassassin/3.002005/sought_rules_yerp_org/20_sought.cf". 
You can take a look at the rules there (all 293 of them at the moment).

> I have a number of custom rules and want to vet the auto-generated
> rules for overlap

Since the rules are constantly changing (every 4 hours), I'm not sure
how useful it will be to look for overlaps.  If you find an overlap in
one version of the ruleset, it may disappear in the next update.

Actually, looking at my stats, I'm not seeing the Sought ruleset being
very helpful recently.  The best rule, JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD_3, hit less than
1% of my spam in the last month and the worst rule, JM_SOUGHT_3, hit
0.33% of spam and 0.45% of ham.  Anyone else seeing this?

The best rules for me at the moment are Razor2, DCC, and URIBL.

-- 
Bowie


Re: what about blacklist.spambag.org?

2009-11-04 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Luigi Gasbarro :
> 
> I checked my mailserver vs http://cqcounter.com/rbl_check/ and the
> only negative response comes from blacklist.spambag.org

It's dead

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Re: sought rules

2009-11-04 Thread Yet Another Ninja

On 11/4/2009 5:22 PM, Charles Gregory wrote:

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Bowie Bailey wrote:

The SA core rules are not updated very often.  For the most part, they
just work.  If you are not already doing so, you may want to consider
Justin's Sought ruleset.  It is dynamically generated and updated every
4 hours or so.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules


Is there a way to examine the sought rules *before* installing them into
my spamassassin? Or at least a 'readme' so that if I download them via 
sa-update I can know which files will be created and how to remove them.
I have a number of custom rules and want to vet the auto-generated rules 
for overlap


- Charles


sa-update --help will show you how



Re: what about blacklist.spambag.org?

2009-11-04 Thread Bowie Bailey
Luigi Gasbarro wrote:
>
> I checked my mailserver vs http://cqcounter.com/rbl_check/ and the
> only negative response comes from blacklist.spambag.org
>
> I try same other IP (randomly) and have found the same RBL marking all
> the address as negative

The spambag.org domain is expired.  It gives the same results for
anything on the domain.

> But is that list really credible?

Nope.

> And in particular is used?

I certainly hope not!

I've been using http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx to check for
blacklist listings.

-- 
Bowie


Re: sought rules (was: Development dead)

2009-11-04 Thread Charles Gregory

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Bowie Bailey wrote:

The SA core rules are not updated very often.  For the most part, they
just work.  If you are not already doing so, you may want to consider
Justin's Sought ruleset.  It is dynamically generated and updated every
4 hours or so.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules


Is there a way to examine the sought rules *before* installing them into
my spamassassin? Or at least a 'readme' so that if I download them via 
sa-update I can know which files will be created and how to remove them.
I have a number of custom rules and want to vet the auto-generated rules 
for overlap


- Charles



what about blacklist.spambag.org?

2009-11-04 Thread Luigi Gasbarro


I checked my mailserver vs http://cqcounter.com/rbl_check/ and the only 
negative response comes from blacklist.spambag.org


I try same other IP (randomly) and have found the same RBL marking all the 
address as negative


But is that list really credible? And in particular is used?

sorry for my poor english

luigi 



[Fwd: ** IMPORTANT: Karmasphere Reputation Service End of Life ***]

2009-11-04 Thread Bill Landry
Just FYI, in case you might be using the Karmasphere plug-in with
Spamassassin.

Bill

 Original Message 
Subject: ** IMPORTANT: Karmasphere Reputation Service End of Life ***
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:31:55 + (GMT)
From: D J Stewart 
To: karmasphere-us...@v2.listbox.com
CC: karmasphere-annou...@v2.listbox.com

Hello,

As a registered user of Karmasphere Reputation Services, we wanted to let
you know that we are discontinuing the service, effective November 16,
2009. If you are using the services through DNS, BQuery or email plugins,
please make plans to adjust your configurations ideally prior to November
9 and no later than November 16, 2009.

On that final date, we will disable the reputation servers so that you can
no longer query them. Anybody who still has not removed Karmasphere's
reputation service from their mail configuration when this happens may
find that their mail servers appear to slow down while they wait for their
queries to Karmasphere to time out.

You may be thinking "why are they doing this?". The answer is that we are
moving the business in a different direction. We have applied the
experience gained in manipulating and analysing large data sets in
reputation services into developing software that makes it easier to use
Hadoop.

This change in focus means that we no longer have the time nor resources
to give the reputation service the attention it deserves.  Rather than
letting the service slowly decay, we are ending them.

This end of service will proceed in the following stages.

Stage 1: To November 9, 2009
Our services will continue as they have for the past 4 years.
This gives you a chance to remove karmasphere's feeds and feedsets from
your mail server configurations.

Stage 2: November 9 - November 16, 2009
Our servers will continue to respond but our feedsets will whitelist
everything.

Stage 3: November 16, 2009
The reputation servers will be turned off.

Thank you for using our services.

The Karmasphere Team.


Re: Development dead

2009-11-04 Thread Bowie Bailey
Kent Borg wrote:
> I admit I have been ignoring Spamassassin because it seems to work.  I
> have been pleased that Spamassassin has been regularly flagging over 94%
> of my spam.  And this list seems active (if mostly ignored by me).
>
> But this e-mail caught my eye.  Indeed, the version on spamassassin.org
> is old and the version offered by my Ubuntu installation matches.  Well,
> if it is working pretty well in the face of rising spam volumes, that
> seems OK. 
>
> But what about the sa-update rules?  They are probably newer...yes, but
> my rules are from 2009-3-13.  Do I have the latest?  Is there a better
> source from which to draw rules?  Am I coasting on my ongoing spam/ham
> training?

The SA core rules are not updated very often.  For the most part, they
just work.  If you are not already doing so, you may want to consider
Justin's Sought ruleset.  It is dynamically generated and updated every
4 hours or so.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules

I am also using these two from SARE:

90_2tld.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net
90_sare_freemail.cf.sare.sa-update.dostech.net

and some of Adam Katz's khop rules (http://khopesh.com/wiki/Anti-spam):

khop-bl.sa.khopesh.com
khop-blessed.sa.khopesh.com
khop-general.sa.khopesh.com
khop-sc-neighbors.sa.khopesh.com

(which also include Marc Perkel's HostKarma blacklists ... and white
lists and yellow lists and brown lists ...  :)

-- 
Bowie


Re: Development dead

2009-11-04 Thread Kent Borg
I admit I have been ignoring Spamassassin because it seems to work.  I
have been pleased that Spamassassin has been regularly flagging over 94%
of my spam.  And this list seems active (if mostly ignored by me).

But this e-mail caught my eye.  Indeed, the version on spamassassin.org
is old and the version offered by my Ubuntu installation matches.  Well,
if it is working pretty well in the face of rising spam volumes, that
seems OK. 

But what about the sa-update rules?  They are probably newer...yes, but
my rules are from 2009-3-13.  Do I have the latest?  Is there a better
source from which to draw rules?  Am I coasting on my ongoing spam/ham
training?


Thanks,

-kb



Re: Development dead

2009-11-04 Thread Benny Pedersen

On ons 04 nov 2009 15:10:45 CET, polloxx wrote

Is the spamassassin development dead?
On the website there's: 2008-06-12: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 has been released.


join the dev maillist and ask the same question there, but as i see  
it, it being working on make sa 3.3.x stable for so long time now does  
not mean its dead, where did you get that idear from ?


--
xpoint



Re: Development dead

2009-11-04 Thread Bowie Bailey
polloxx wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is the spamassassin development dead?
> On the website there's: 2008-06-12: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 has been released.
>   

Not quite.  If you look at svn, you'll see this:

spamassassin_20091103151200.tar.gz03-Nov-2009 15:122.1M

Doesn't look dead to me!  :)

-- 
Bowie



Development dead

2009-11-04 Thread polloxx
Hi,

Is the spamassassin development dead?
On the website there's: 2008-06-12: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 has been released.