Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Amir Caspi
On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Dave Pooser dave...@pooserville.com wrote:
 I'm not a moderator or anything, but this kind of personal attack is
 neither necessary nor appropriate here, IMO.

Indeed, it seems like just a few weeks ago that I asked people to be more 
professional, since some of us actually use this list for help and info rather 
than for pissing contests...

Oh wait, it actually was just a few weeks ago.

The next time someone feels like insulting someone else on list, please -- 
don't.

--- Amir
thumbed via iPhone



Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 22.02.2015 um 02:48 schrieb Dave Pooser:

On 2/21/15 7:31 PM, Nick Edwards nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:


Plenty appreciate your work, dont worry about $INDIVIDUAL, that $EXPLETIVE


I'm not a moderator or anything, but this kind of personal attack is
neither necessary nor appropriate here, IMO


typical Nick Edwars playing saint

http://www.eee.hku.hk/~kmpoon/lists/spamassassin-talk/msg05454.html

http://www.eee.hku.hk/~kmpoon/lists/spamassassin-talk/msg05418.html

http://www.eee.hku.hk/~kmpoon/lists/spamassassin-talk/msg05412.html

http://www.eee.hku.hk/~kmpoon/lists/spamassassin-talk/msg05413.html

http://www.eee.hku.hk/~kmpoon/lists/spamassassin-talk/msg05414.html

http://www.eee.hku.hk/~kmpoon/lists/spamassassin-talk/msg05415.html

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/spamassassin-users/201411.mbox/%3c20141126231649.go...@frodo.gerdesas.com%3E

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/spamassassin-users/201411.mbox/%3c201411262346.38666.antony.st...@spamassassin.open.source.it%3E

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/users/187913
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/users/188065
https://www.mail-archive.com/bind-users@lists.isc.org/msg19670.html
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.roundcube.user/4500



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Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Dave Pooser
On 2/21/15 7:31 PM, Nick Edwards nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:

Plenty appreciate your work, dont worry about $INDIVIDUAL, that $EXPLETIVE

I'm not a moderator or anything, but this kind of personal attack is
neither necessary nor appropriate here, IMO.
-- 
Dave Pooser
Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com





Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 22.02.2015 um 02:33 schrieb Nick Edwards:

On 2/22/15, Benny Pedersen m...@junc.eu wrote:

Axb skrev den 2015-02-21 12:09:

DOH! - need more coffee...


whisky free ? :-)



when corresponding with reindl, you need whiskey, just to tolerate his rhetoric


re-read the thread - that above had nothing to do with me at all but you 
have nothing better to do than start you ad hominem attacks again? who 
do you think you are?




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Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Nick Edwards
On 2/22/15, Benny Pedersen m...@junc.eu wrote:
 Axb skrev den 2015-02-21 12:09:
 DOH! - need more coffee...

 whisky free ? :-)


when corresponding with reindl, you need whiskey, just to tolerate his rhetoric


Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Nick Edwards
On 2/22/15, Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/21/2015 04:04 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many moons ago, obviously before you started using SA, what you *now*
 consider dynamic, was very static with less than than handfull of
 changes
 /release.

 There's some pointless blabber in that as well.  ;-)

 that pointless blabber tries to explain why we're still carrying
 historical karma. It's not unknown, new, or has been forgotten.

 Irregardless of last century's history, what Reindl said makes good
 sense.   Highly dynamic content shouldn't have to be exported in a .pm
 from svn every month.

 the TLD additions hardly qualify as higly dynamic and till SA delivers
 the new method in bug 6782  if you look into RegistrarBoundaries.pm,
 Joe Quinn (thanks Joe!) documented the starting steps to pickup the
 changes required so you can script your own updates.

 wonder why I spent Saturday time updating/commiting/announcing so
 others could make use of it instead of doing facility management aka
 house chores...


Plenty appreciate your work, dont worry about reindl, that fuckstain
causes problems  on every mailing list he joins (google is your friend
there), he's always right, everyone else is either wrong or an idiot,
he cant handle the fact that some people want to run their systems in
a way that differs fro  him,  most of the internet who's had the
displeasure of interacting with the tosser laugh at him knowing that
in reality he's the only idiot.


Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Axb



PLS EXCUSE ERROR

seems that wget commant WILL *NOT* get you the .pm file.

You'll need to SVN checkout or use a browser and download

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util/RegistrarBoundaries.pm?view=co


On 02/21/2015 11:17 AM, Axb wrote:

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates.

On Centos/RHE/Fedora boxes you will probably find it in

/usr/local/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util

use locate RegistrarBoundaries.pm to determine path

backup your old version and replace/wget

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util/RegistrarBoundaries.pm







Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many moons ago, obviously before you started using SA, what you *now*
 consider dynamic, was very static with less than than handfull of changes
 /release.

There's some pointless blabber in that as well.  ;-)

Irregardless of last century's history, what Reindl said makes good
sense.   Highly dynamic content shouldn't have to be exported in a .pm
from svn every month.

-Jim P.


Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Axb

On 02/21/2015 04:04 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote:


Many moons ago, obviously before you started using SA, what you *now*
consider dynamic, was very static with less than than handfull of changes
/release.


There's some pointless blabber in that as well.  ;-)


that pointless blabber tries to explain why we're still carrying 
historical karma. It's not unknown, new, or has been forgotten.



Irregardless of last century's history, what Reindl said makes good
sense.   Highly dynamic content shouldn't have to be exported in a .pm
from svn every month.


the TLD additions hardly qualify as higly dynamic and till SA delivers 
the new method in bug 6782  if you look into RegistrarBoundaries.pm,
Joe Quinn (thanks Joe!) documented the starting steps to pickup the 
changes required so you can script your own updates.


wonder why I spent Saturday time updating/commiting/announcing so 
others could make use of it instead of doing facility management aka 
house chores...







Re: Uptick in spam (bayes stats script)

2015-02-21 Thread LuKreme
On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 
 bayes-stats.txt

That is a lot cleaner and more obvious, thank you for sharing


-- 
Once again I teeter at the precipice of the generation gap.



Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.02.2015 um 16:26 schrieb Axb:

On 02/21/2015 04:04 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote:


Many moons ago, obviously before you started using SA, what you *now*
consider dynamic, was very static with less than than handfull of
changes
/release.


There's some pointless blabber in that as well.  ;-)


that pointless blabber tries to explain why we're still carrying
historical karma. It's not unknown, new, or has been forgotten.


Irregardless of last century's history, what Reindl said makes good
sense.   Highly dynamic content shouldn't have to be exported in a .pm
from svn every month.


the TLD additions hardly qualify as higly dynamic and till SA delivers
the new method in bug 6782  if you look into RegistrarBoundaries.pm,
Joe Quinn (thanks Joe!) documented the starting steps to pickup the
changes required so you can script your own updates.

wonder why I spent Saturday time updating/commiting/announcing so
others could make use of it instead of doing facility management aka
house chores...


no idea why you always get that pissed off when anybody repsonds to your 
mails - just put a disclaimer below no repsonses wanted but don't 
blame people all the time for aksing questions




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updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Axb

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates.

On Centos/RHE/Fedora boxes you will probably find it in

/usr/local/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util

use locate RegistrarBoundaries.pm to determine path

backup your old version and replace/wget

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util/RegistrarBoundaries.pm


Axb


Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Axb

DOH! - need more coffee...

 svn export 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util/RegistrarBoundaries.pm




On 02/21/2015 11:29 AM, Axb wrote:



PLS EXCUSE ERROR

seems that wget commant WILL *NOT* get you the .pm file.

You'll need to SVN checkout or use a browser and download

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util/RegistrarBoundaries.pm?view=co



On 02/21/2015 11:17 AM, Axb wrote:

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates.

On Centos/RHE/Fedora boxes you will probably find it in

/usr/local/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util

use locate RegistrarBoundaries.pm to determine path

backup your old version and replace/wget

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util/RegistrarBoundaries.pm










Re: Some tips email gateway

2015-02-21 Thread ricky gutierrez
Hi ,Few days ago, finished installing postfix 3.0 and spamassassin  3.4 ,
I have a doubt with the part of downstream server MX, so I defined
my MX in DNS:

### Actual DNS 

domain.com.  IN MX 0 scmmific.domain.com.


### this would be the recommended settings ###:

domain.com.  IN MX 0 scmmific.domain.com.
domain.com.  IN MX 5 scmmific1.domain.com.

I´m look forward to your reply

Monday I start with sieve!

regardss


Re: Some tips email gateway

2015-02-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 17.02.15 13:25, ricky gutierrez wrote:

Yes , only these two: reject_rbl_client pbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,



Am 17.02.2015 um 22:04 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

why not reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org ? it makes exactly the same job,
but halves number of queries


On 17.02.15 22:16, Reindl Harald wrote:

it contains more zenhaus lists and hence more false positives


It includes only one more which is CSS. some time before it was only
sbl-xbl+pbl, and I have forgot about CSS addition



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Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.02.2015 um 15:01 schrieb Axb:

On 02/21/2015 02:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.02.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Axb:

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates


this should really go to sa-updates given how often that list changed
only in the current month, that below are cron-mails re-configure
postfix if the IANA list changes


snipped-pointless-blabber


really?


https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6782


ok, that was reported 2 months after 3.4.0 release while i don't get why 
dynamic config data are in program code at all




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Re: Some tips email gateway

2015-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 21.02.2015 um 14:49 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

On 17.02.15 13:25, ricky gutierrez wrote:

Yes , only these two: reject_rbl_client pbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,



Am 17.02.2015 um 22:04 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

why not reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org ? it makes exactly the
same job,
but halves number of queries


On 17.02.15 22:16, Reindl Harald wrote:

it contains more zenhaus lists and hence more false positives


It includes only one more which is CSS. some time before it was only
sbl-xbl+pbl, and I have forgot about CSS addition


the problem is the SBL part which you can't treat with the same score as 
XBL/PBL/CSS while i would in general not recommend usage of 
reject_rbl_client at all, that's not score-based and is asking for 
troubles, below my weighting for zen.spamhaus.org


the first number is the postscreen-score, the second the 
spamassassin-score given both configured to reject starting with 8 
points - normally you want every DNSBL result confirmed at least by one 
additional source and add at least sorbs or/and 
hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com to the mix



pbl.spamhaus.org
8
5.5
127.0.0.[10;11]
^127\.0\.0\.1[01]$

xbl.spamhaus.org
7
5.5
127.0.0.[4..7]
^127\.0\.0\.[4567]$

css.spamhaus.org
5
4.0
127.0.0.3
^127\.0\.0\.3$

sbl.spamhaus.org
3
1.5
127.0.0.2
^127\.0\.0\.2$



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Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Axb

On 02/21/2015 03:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.02.2015 um 15:01 schrieb Axb:

On 02/21/2015 02:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.02.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Axb:

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates


this should really go to sa-updates given how often that list changed
only in the current month, that below are cron-mails re-configure
postfix if the IANA list changes


snipped-pointless-blabber


really?


https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6782


ok, that was reported 2 months after 3.4.0 release while i don't get why
dynamic config data are in program code at all


SA's bugzilla and SVN history should explain quite a lot, though some of 
the history may be missing because it happened before SpamAssassin 
became an Apache project.


Many moons ago, obviously before you started using SA, what you *now* 
consider dynamic, was very static with less than than handfull of 
changes /release.







Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.02.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Axb:

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates


this should really go to sa-updates given how often that list changed 
only in the current month, that below are cron-mails re-configure 
postfix if the IANA list changes


UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_generic_ptr.cf
 1486a1487
  /.*\.ntt$/ DUNNO
-
UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_helo.cf
 495a496
  /.*\.ntt$/ DUNNO
-

OK: /usr/bin/systemctl reload postfix.service

UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_generic_ptr.cf
 1065a1066
  /.*\.bingo$/ DUNNO
 1099a1101
  /.*\.canon$/ DUNNO
 1120a1123
  /.*\.chat$/ DUNNO
 1617a1621
  /.*\.style$/ DUNNO
 1639a1644
  /.*\.tennis$/ DUNNO
 1656a1662
  /.*\.toshiba$/ DUNNO
-
UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_helo.cf
 74a75
  /.*\.bingo$/ DUNNO
 108a110
  /.*\.canon$/ DUNNO
 129a132
  /.*\.chat$/ DUNNO
 626a630
  /.*\.style$/ DUNNO
 648a653
  /.*\.tennis$/ DUNNO
 665a671
  /.*\.toshiba$/ DUNNO
-

OK: /usr/bin/systemctl reload postfix.service

UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_generic_ptr.cf
 1027a1028
  /.*\.apartments$/ DUNNO
 1483a1485
  /.*\.nico$/ DUNNO
 1583a1586
  /.*\.saxo$/ DUNNO
-
UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_helo.cf
 35a36
  /.*\.apartments$/ DUNNO
 491a493
  /.*\.nico$/ DUNNO
 591a594
  /.*\.saxo$/ DUNNO
-

OK: /usr/bin/systemctl reload postfix.service

UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_generic_ptr.cf
 1115a1116
  /.*\.cbn$/ DUNNO
 1270a1272
  /.*\.gdn$/ DUNNO
-
UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_helo.cf
 123a124
  /.*\.cbn$/ DUNNO
 278a280
  /.*\.gdn$/ DUNNO
-

OK: /usr/bin/systemctl reload postfix.service

UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_generic_ptr.cf
 1747a1748
  /.*\.xn\-\-90ais$/ DUNNO
-
UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_helo.cf
 777a778
  /.*\.xn\-\-90ais$/ DUNNO
-

OK: /usr/bin/systemctl reload postfix.service

UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_generic_ptr.cf
 1113a1114
  /.*\.casino$/ DUNNO
 1235a1237
  /.*\.fans$/ DUNNO
 1256a1259
  /.*\.football$/ DUNNO
 1292a1296
  /.*\.goldpoint$/ DUNNO
 1593a1598
  /.*\.school$/ DUNNO
 1816a1822
  /.*\.yodobashi$/ DUNNO
-
UPDATED: /etc/postfix/blacklist_helo.cf
 143a144
  /.*\.casino$/ DUNNO
 265a267
  /.*\.fans$/ DUNNO
 286a289
  /.*\.football$/ DUNNO
 322a326
  /.*\.goldpoint$/ DUNNO
 623a628
  /.*\.school$/ DUNNO
 846a852
  /.*\.yodobashi$/ DUNNO
-

OK: /usr/bin/systemctl reload postfix.service



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Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Axb

On 02/21/2015 02:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 21.02.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Axb:

I just updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm to reflect

http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
# Version 2015022100, Last Updated Sat Feb 21 07:07:01 2015 UTC

NOTE: This is not updated via sa-update, only with release updates


this should really go to sa-updates given how often that list changed
only in the current month, that below are cron-mails re-configure
postfix if the IANA list changes




snipped-pointless-blabber

https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6782




Re: updated RegistrarBoundaries.pm

2015-02-21 Thread Benny Pedersen

Axb skrev den 2015-02-21 12:09:

DOH! - need more coffee...


whisky free ? :-)