Re: URI-DNSBL problem with spamassassin 3.2.5

2009-07-15 Thread Dan Schaefer



Hi!

Please, can someone feed http://pastebin.ca/1495707 into spamassassin 
3.3.0 and see how it works ?


Many thanks for your help
Eddy


pts rule name  description
 -- 
--

0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
-4.0 BAYES_00   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%

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Re: URI-DNSBL problem with spamassassin 3.2.5

2009-07-15 Thread Dan Schaefer

Dan Schaefer wrote:



Hi!

Please, can someone feed http://pastebin.ca/1495707 into spamassassin 
3.3.0 and see how it works ?


Many thanks for your help
Eddy


pts rule name  description
 -- 
--

0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
-4.0 BAYES_00   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%


Sorry that's 3.2.5

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Re: {Spam?} RE: The www[variations]continue....

2009-07-16 Thread Dan Schaefer



The rules should also proactively cover (dot) and {dot} as well as [dot]
  

I agree.

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copy spam mail to separate mailbox

2009-07-16 Thread Dan Schaefer
I have a postfix/SA setup and I was wondering if anyone knew how to COPY 
an email marked as spam instead of redirecting.

Not this:
/^X-Spam-Flag: YES/   REDIRECT spam...@example.com

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Re: copy spam mail to separate mailbox

2009-07-16 Thread Dan Schaefer


As that's really a postfix question, not a SpamAssassin question, if 
you don't get an answer here you may want to try on a postfix mailing 
list. 
I know. Since everybody here is so great at answering my questions so 
far, I thought I'd try this list first.


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auto learn threshold

2009-07-21 Thread Dan Schaefer

Clip of /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
__
required_score   7

ifplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold
bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam  0.1
bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 10.0
endif
__

Some messages with a SA score of 10 or higher are auto-learned as spam 
and some are not. Any suggestions? What is the default? Perhaps my 
bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam isn't being used. The results seem to be 
random. Is there a certain rule that is ignored when determining the 
score SA uses for autolearn?

Examples:
score: 11.6 autolearn=no
score: 12.7 autolearn=no
score: 33.9 autolearn=spam
score: 15.9 autolearn=no
score: 19.0 autolearn=no
score: 19.6 autolearn=spam
score: 18.4 autolearn=spam

Thanks,
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Re: auto learn threshold

2009-07-21 Thread Dan Schaefer



Is there a certain rule that is ignored when determining the
score SA uses for autolearn?



Maybe this?

perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold

"  Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the header, and 
3 points from the body to auto-learn as spam.  Therefore, the minimum working 
value for this option is 6."
This is very possible. I checked a few of my examples and this turned 
out to be true. Thanks to both Nuno and Bowie for the answer. This is 
another one of my questions that could have been answered with RTFMP. I 
am, however, a semi-rookie System Admin and I'm still learning the tricks.


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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Dan Schaefer

For those of you that manage these rules,
URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as 
spam

http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4


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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Dan Schaefer

Benny Pedersen wrote:

On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:39, Dan Schaefer wrote:
  

For those of you that manage these rules,
URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as 
spam
http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4



reject it with rbl testing in mta, and its found in blacklist, reason it not 
found in obfu is that its not obfu :)

  
Does this mean that if I have a custom rule to search for exactly the 
"via" site, my rule will be overlooked because the site is in a blacklist?


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rule counter

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer
I don't have a test server to try this, so maybe someone could test it 
for me or maybe someone has tried this before...
I want to create a rule that counts the number of rules that have a 
score and add my score. I don't want to count the total score. Can I use 
!! instead of the rule name.


I may not have explained it well, so here's an example. I want at least 
3 out of 5 rules to pass before adding my 5 points.


#(!!1.25) = true = 1? in SA
meta   MY_RULE   (!!RULE_ONE + !!RULE_TWO + !!RULE_THREE + !!RULE_FOUR + 
!!RULE_FIVE >= 3)

score   MY_RULE   5

instead of the following, because the total score would be counted
meta   MY_RULE   (RULE_ONE + RULE_TWO + RULE_THREE + RULE_FOUR + 
RULE_FIVE >= 3)


Thanks in advance,
Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer



>For those of you that manage these rules,
>URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this 
email as spam


I'm up to AE_MED45, so I wouldn't expect AE_MEDS38 and 39 to be 
hitting anything currently.


>http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4

This is not an obfuscated domain.  You can see that it hit two URIBLs 
- JP and WS.  I would have expected it to be in URIBL_BLACK (or at 
least GOLD) as well as Invaluement's URIBL.  There are plenty of 
mechanisms to catch valid URIs - that's not the purpose of the 
obfuscation rules.


And, you still got 15 points - so, what's the problem?

Relax. I don't have a problem. I was just pointing out a potential flaw. 
I was just trying to help out. I just misunderstood the whole blacklist 
thing, that's all.


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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer



It means that if you were using BL at MTA level your SA might never have seen 
the message at all.

No your rule would not be "overlooked" 'because the site is in a blacklist' 
*unless* you were using the BL in your MTA and rejected the transaction from a 
blacklisted IP address and, thus, never submitted it to SA at all.

  
If this is the case, then why does my email have the X-* headers in it? 
I have nothing in my postfix header_checks to discard the BL rules. Does 
anyone have a detailed flow chart of SA/postfix setup and describes 
blacklisting? Or even a webpage describing the process?


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Re: copy spam mail to separate mailbox

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer


I have a postfix/SA setup and I was wondering if anyone knew how to 
COPY an email marked as spam instead of redirecting.

Not this:
/^X-Spam-Flag: YES/   REDIRECT spam...@example.com


This should work, right?
http://onetforum.com/fourm/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34

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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer



Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP or at a
sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already added X-*
headers to the message?


Martin

  

No. Is that even possible to track down?

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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer



 Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP or at
 a sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already added X-*
 headers to the message?


No. Is that even possible to track down?


There would probably be an X-Spam-Checker-Version header in your 
inbound mail stream.


X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on 
pony.performanceadmin.com


That is my server.

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Re: Low Scoring Lotto Spam

2009-07-27 Thread Dan Schaefer

Jari Fredriksson wrote:

Content analysis details:   (6.2 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 0.0 BAYES_50   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60%
[score: 0.4920]
 2.2 DCC_CHECK  Listed in DCC (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
 3.0 JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD_3  Body contains frequently-spammed text patterns

  

I get roughly the same...
Content analysis details:   (0.4 points, 7.0 required)

pts rule name  description
 -- 
--

0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
-2.6 BAYES_00   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
   [score: 0.]
3.0 JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD_3  Body contains frequently-spammed text patterns

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Re: Parallelizing Spam Assassin

2009-08-03 Thread Dan Schaefer
This whole time I thought the subject line was "Paralyzing Spam 
Assassin" and the original poster was having trouble with SA locking up. 
Oops. ;-)


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Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-08-04 Thread Dan Schaefer
I'm glad to see this SPAM traffic has come to a halt. At least on my 
mail server...


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Re: DB structure information

2009-08-06 Thread Dan Schaefer

Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:

Hi SAs,

I wonder to know if there is a document that explains how is relation-entity 
database schema designed.


TIA

LD
  

Is this even a SA question?

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Re: Mailbox for auto learning

2009-08-10 Thread Dan Schaefer

Stefan wrote:

Am Sonntag, 9. August 2009 07:36:54 schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
  

Hi SAs,

Well, after reading this link
http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/sa-learn.html I'm still
looking for an easy-way to let my mortal users to train our antispam.  I
was thinking a mailbox such as  h...@antispamserver and s...@antispamserver
to let users to forward their false positivos or their false netgatives. 
In isde each box (ham or spam), of course a procmail with sa-learn input

will be forwarded.

My doubts are nexts:
1. Will forwarded mails be usefull for training, I mean if spam was: From:
spa...@example.netTo: u...@mydomain,   when forwarding it will be From:
mu...@mydomain To: s...@antispamserver.   Change of this and forwarding
(getting rid of headers because mail-clients) wont change learning?

You have to forward the message as an attachment un unpack it after receiving. 
Have a look at: 
https://po2.uni-stuttgart.de/~rusjako/sal-wrappe

2. If technique in question 1 is usless, what other way would be nice to
let user to report a false positive/negative for training.


This may not be ideal, but in Thunderbird, you can drag messages between 
mailboxes. You could setup each user to have access to their own account 
and the two learning mailboxes. You can then have your users drag the 
false positives/negatives to the appropriate box. I have not testing 
this 100%, so I don't know if any headers get re-written or not.


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Image Spam

2009-08-19 Thread Dan Schaefer
Why haven't spammers think about this approach before? I can image it is 
very difficult for Fuzzy OCR to tag this with a high score.


http://pastebin.com/m247b74c8

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Re: Image Spam

2009-08-19 Thread Dan Schaefer

Dan Schaefer wrote:
Why haven't spammers think about this approach before? I can image it 
is very difficult for Fuzzy OCR to tag this with a high score.


http://pastebin.com/m247b74c8

Oops. Why haven't spammers *thought about this approach before? 
Spamassasin did a nice job of catching it though.


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Re: Image Spam

2009-08-20 Thread Dan Schaefer



On ons 19 aug 2009 14:26:31 CEST, Dan Schaefer wrote

Why haven't spammers think about this approach before? I can image it 
is very difficult for Fuzzy OCR to tag this with a high score.


you belive fuzzyocr is buggy ?


http://pastebin.com/m247b74c8


already detected as spam, what more do you want from spamassassin ?


I'm not complaining!! First of all, I don't have FuzzyOCR installed and 
I'm not using it. Therefore, I couldn't even determine if this email was 
marked as spam by FuzzyOCR. And second of all, I didn't mention anything 
about spamassassin. I'm just speculating on difficulty of image scanning.


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Re: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Dan Schaefer

Res wrote:

On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:


Bullshit.

Bullshit to what?

Didn't we have an email a couple weeks ago talking about inappropriate 
language on a public list and that it won't be tolerated?


i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I 
have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5.

http://pastebin.com/m561b461b

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Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer


Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the 
subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5.

http://pastebin.com/m561b461b


freemail plugin http://sa.hege.li/

It looks as if the FREEMAIL_BODY is the only rule that works with this 
email. The From address is not in the freemail domain list, but the 
Reply-To is. Do both fields have to be in the freemail domain list in 
order for the Reply-To check to pass?


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Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer



Scored pretty high here.  DCC and JMF-BLACK account for quite a bit, but
it would have scored 5.0 and been marked as spam even without them.
  

My required_score is 7.

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Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer

Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 08:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote:
  

Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject?



Probably not a smart idea, since you insist on re-using that very
subject for your list post...

  
That is incorrect. I put double spaces in the subject, because I knew 
someone would bring that up. :-)


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Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-24 Thread Dan Schaefer

LuKreme wrote:

On 21-Aug-2009, at 07:45, Dan Schaefer wrote:

Scored pretty high here.  DCC and JMF-BLACK account for quite a bit, but

it would have scored 5.0 and been marked as spam even without them.


My required_score is 7.

Then you have absolutely no cause for complaint.


When the score is a 4.9, then yes I do have a cause...

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Best way to restart SA without undelivered mail?

2009-08-28 Thread Dan Schaefer
I occasionally make changes to the local.cf for custom scores and rules 
and I would obviously need to restart SA. A few times in the past, spam 
messages have sneaked through just as SA was stopped.  If I were to 
prevent this from happening in the future, would I first stop my MTA, 
restart SA, and start my MTA again? Will this cause anyone other 
problems with undelivered mail, especially outgoing? Note, I usually 
restart during the day after adding rules/scores.


Something like this?
/etc/init.d/postfix stop && /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart && 
/etc/init.d/postfix start


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Re: Best way to restart SA without undelivered mail?

2009-08-28 Thread Dan Schaefer

RW wrote:

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:05:06 -0400
Dan Schaefer  wrote:

  

I occasionally make changes to the local.cf for custom scores and
rules and I would obviously need to restart SA. A few times in the
past, spam messages have sneaked through just as SA was stopped.  If
I were to prevent this from happening in the future, would I first
stop my MTA, restart SA, and start my MTA again? Will this cause
anyone other problems with undelivered mail, especially outgoing?
Note, I usually restart during the day after adding rules/scores.

Something like this?
/etc/init.d/postfix stop && /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart && 
/etc/init.d/postfix start



Could you not simply set a combination of  --connect-retries and
--retry-sleep that's high enough to cover the downtime?

  
I could try that.  These arguments are for spamc, so I would need to put 
them in /etc/postfix/master.cf?


[r...@host ~]# cat /etc/postfix/master.cf
--cut--
spamassassin unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
   user=
   argv=/usr/bin/spamc
   -e /usr/sbin/sendmail
   -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}

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Re: Best way to restart SA without undelivered mail?

2009-08-31 Thread Dan Schaefer

Dan Schaefer wrote:

RW wrote:

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:05:06 -0400
Dan Schaefer  wrote:

  

I occasionally make changes to the local.cf for custom scores and
rules and I would obviously need to restart SA. A few times in the
past, spam messages have sneaked through just as SA was stopped.  If
I were to prevent this from happening in the future, would I first
stop my MTA, restart SA, and start my MTA again? Will this cause
anyone other problems with undelivered mail, especially outgoing?
Note, I usually restart during the day after adding rules/scores.

Something like this?
/etc/init.d/postfix stop && /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart && 
/etc/init.d/postfix start



Could you not simply set a combination of  --connect-retries and
--retry-sleep that's high enough to cover the downtime?

  
I could try that.  These arguments are for spamc, so I would need to 
put them in /etc/postfix/master.cf?


[r...@host ~]# cat /etc/postfix/master.cf
--cut--
spamassassin unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
user=
argv=/usr/bin/spamc
-e /usr/sbin/sendmail
-oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}

Bump :-)

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Re: HTML Image Spam

2009-09-01 Thread Dan Schaefer

Casartello, Thomas wrote:

Well said :)

Thomas E. Casartello, Jr.
Staff Assistant - Wireless/Linux Administrator
Information Technology
Wilson 105A
Westfield State College

Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT)


-Original Message-
From: LuKreme [mailto:krem...@kreme.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:27 PM

To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: HTML Image Spam

On 31-Aug-2009, at 18:19, Casartello, Thomas wrote:
  
Well my client doesn't load images, and I already check against the  
zen rbl.
The guy who got the message is making a big stink about the fact  
that he got

the message. I figured there's really not that much that can be done.



If he wants to get absolutely no spam that is very very easy.  
Disconnect the Ethernet cord.


Short of that, he WILL get spam. SA is good, it's not that good.  
Nothing is.


  
Or...you could turn off spam filtering for this user to show him just 
how much spam he's NOT getting.


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Custom Bayes score

2009-09-17 Thread Dan Schaefer
In a general consensus for those who have customized your BAYES scores, 
what are they? I have been experimenting with them, but I have not been 
successful with a "perfect" score. What I'm NOT looking for is a lecture 
on how everybody's systems are different.


Thanks,
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Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Dan Schaefer

 Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote:

*
**body ELLE /is this ELLE/
describe is this ELLE Publicidad
score ELLE 10.0*
It appears that you are missing ELLE after describe. If you have 
spelling/format issues in your configuration, SA may not work at all. 
Run "spamassassin --lint" to see if you have any warnings. I'm pretty 
sure this is your solution...


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Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-18 Thread Dan Schaefer

Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 16:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote:
  
Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 


body ELLE /is this ELLE/
describe is this ELLE Publicidad
score ELLE 10.0
  

It appears that you are missing ELLE after describe. If you have
spelling/format issues in your configuration, SA may not work at all.
Run "spamassassin --lint" to see if you have any warnings. I'm pretty
sure this is your solution...



Nice catch. And the advice of lint checking always is a good one.

However, I'm pretty sure he merely describes a rule named "is", which is
non-fatal.


  
I added that line to my config and ran spamassassin --lint and received 
the following error:

[3530] warn: config: warning: description exists for non-existent rule is
[3530] warn: lint: 1 issues detected, please rerun with debug enabled 
for more information


You are correct, though, in saying that it is non-fatal.

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Re: Report in header of SPAM emails

2009-09-23 Thread Dan Schaefer


As configure SA to emails that have been submitted to the QUARANTINE 
directory containing the report SA in the header.

Huh?

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Re: unsubscribe

2009-09-29 Thread Dan Schaefer

Paul Andrews wrote:
 

Try users-unsubscr...@spamassassin.apache.org

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Re: unsubscribe

2009-09-30 Thread Dan Schaefer



On 29-Sep-2009, at 21:54, Gary Smith wrote:
Didn't we already have this discussion today.  You need to use the 
link in the headers!


Yes, but if he could read your message, he could read the headers, right?


Think about it, the people that unsubscribe aren't really interested in 
what you have to say about unsubscribing or the correct place to look 
for the email address. I think a simple reply from one of us with the 
correct email address would suffice.


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Re: OT bad news

2009-10-05 Thread Dan Schaefer

Thomas Mullins wrote:


We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now.  But, my 
coworkers do not like OpenSource.  So they have finally complained 
enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable 
FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes.  They are planning on purchasing something 
that runs ON Exchange.  What a bummer. 

 


Shane


We are sorry to see you leave. :-(

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Re: OT bad news

2009-10-06 Thread Dan Schaefer

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Gary Smith wrote:

 Let them have as much Windows stuff as they want.  Just plead the 
case to supplement. 


I'll have to repeat, for the original poster this isn't a technology
vs technology argument.  If it was, his coworkers would be listing
specific things Exchange does that FreeBSD/SA does not do.

This is a political battle.  He is essentially in the position of
a mechanic that someone brings their car to for repair, then sits
there telling the mechanic what tools he should be using to repair
their car.  If the car gets repaired the owner claims that they
knew how to repair the car better than the mechanic and the
mechanic was an idiot.  If the car repair fails the owner claims
the mechanic is incompetent and an idiot.  Either way, once your
boss starts micromanaging, your going to be screwed whether you
do a good job or not.

He's tried "rescuing" the situation for 8 years, now your giving
advice to help him "rescue" the situation more.  If he "helps" them
by keeping the BSD server in reserve, and they fall flat on their
face and he rescues them, then it just is teaching them what to
fix on their Exchange setup.  They will try it again - perhaps
falling flat again - and this will continue over and over with
them putting more powerful hardware and more expensive add-on software
on their exchange box until eventually they will figure it out, make
him get rid of the BSD box - then they won't fall flat anymore.

Then they will claim how much better Exchange works, completely
ignoring the fact that he helped them troubleshoot their exchange
setup.

There is absolutely no fix for these types other than to let them
fail and not help them back up - just let them be fired for
incompetence.  Trust me - even if that happened to these coworkers
they will just go to the next employer that's a Windows only shop
and will never once believe that the Windows solution is worse.

It's just like the people who believe in Apple.  They will go spend
$1K on an iMac and accessories and get -exactly- the same thing that
I can build with FreeBSD and a whitebox clone for a quarter of the
cost - but will never believe that they overpaid for what they have.


Ted

(Standing ovation on both emails)

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just enabled DCC

2009-10-13 Thread Dan Schaefer
I just enabled DCC yesterday and everything appears to be working (DCC 
is registered).  Just to make sure, can someone post an email to 
pastebin that has a DCC hit? Thanks.


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Re: just enabled DCC

2009-10-13 Thread Dan Schaefer

Jason Bertoch wrote:

Dan Schaefer wrote:
I just enabled DCC yesterday and everything appears to be working 
(DCC is registered).  Just to make sure, can someone post an email to 
pastebin that has a DCC hit? Thanks.


IIRC, a message with "test" in the subject and body will match, 
although your logs should tell you what rules are hitting anyway.


Is DCC_CHECK the only DCC rule? Because I didn't find that in my logs 
yesterday. "test" in the subject and "test" in the body only triggered 
TVD_SPACE_RATIO and BAYES_00 from my personal email address to my work 
address. Any other suggestions?


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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: just enabled DCC

2009-10-13 Thread Dan Schaefer

Jeff Mincy wrote:

   From: Dan Schaefer 
   Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:54:29 -0400
   
   Jason Bertoch wrote:

   > Dan Schaefer wrote:
   >> I just enabled DCC yesterday and everything appears to be working 
   >> (DCC is registered).  Just to make sure, can someone post an email to 
   >> pastebin that has a DCC hit? Thanks.

   >>
   > IIRC, a message with "test" in the subject and body will match, 
   > although your logs should tell you what rules are hitting anyway.
   
   Is DCC_CHECK the only DCC rule? Because I didn't find that in my logs 
   yesterday. "test" in the subject and "test" in the body only triggered 
   TVD_SPACE_RATIO and BAYES_00 from my personal email address to my work 
   address. Any other suggestions?
   
Use

   spamassassin --test-mode --debug dcc < somespammsg

Should print out stuff like:

   08:58:51.617 0.375 0.375 [28903] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC
   08:58:54.405 3.164 0.943 [28903] dbg: dcc: dccifd is available: 
/var/lib/dcc/dccifd
   08:58:54.585 3.343 0.179 [28903] dbg: dcc: dccifd got response: 
X-DCC--Metrics: pinky 1356; bulk Body=3 Fuz1=4384 Fuz2=many
   08:58:54.585 3.343 0.000 [28903] dbg: dcc: listed: BODY=3/20 FUZ1=4384/20 
FUZ2=99/20


-jeff
  

I followed your instructions and received the following:

[1486] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC
[1486] dbg: dcc: dccifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found
[1486] dbg: dcc: dccproc is not available: no dccproc executable found
[1486] dbg: dcc: dccifd and dccproc are not available, disabling DCC


After seeing that, I NAT-ed 1023 local to 6277 remote and 6277 remote to 
1023 to my mail server in my firewall. I ran the test again and received 
the same message.


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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: just enabled DCC

2009-10-13 Thread Dan Schaefer

Jeff Mincy wrote:

   From: Dan Schaefer 
   Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:18:44 -0400
   
   Jeff Mincy wrote:

   >From: Dan Schaefer 
   >Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:54:29 -0400
   >
   >Jason Bertoch wrote:

   >    > Dan Schaefer wrote:
   >>> I just enabled DCC yesterday and everything appears to be working 
   >>> (DCC is registered).  Just to make sure, can someone post an email to 
   >>> pastebin that has a DCC hit? Thanks.

   >>>
   >> IIRC, a message with "test" in the subject and body will match, 
   >> although your logs should tell you what rules are hitting anyway.
   >
   >Is DCC_CHECK the only DCC rule? Because I didn't find that in my logs 
   >yesterday. "test" in the subject and "test" in the body only triggered 
   >TVD_SPACE_RATIO and BAYES_00 from my personal email address to my work 
   >address. Any other suggestions?
   >
   > Use

   >spamassassin --test-mode --debug dcc < somespammsg
   >
   > Should print out stuff like:
   >
   >08:58:51.617 0.375 0.375 [28903] dbg: dcc: network tests on, 
registering DCC
   >08:58:54.405 3.164 0.943 [28903] dbg: dcc: dccifd is available: 
/var/lib/dcc/dccifd
   >08:58:54.585 3.343 0.179 [28903] dbg: dcc: dccifd got response: 
X-DCC--Metrics: pinky 1356; bulk Body=3 Fuz1=4384 Fuz2=many
   >08:58:54.585 3.343 0.000 [28903] dbg: dcc: listed: BODY=3/20 
FUZ1=4384/20 FUZ2=99/20
   >
   >
   > -jeff
   >   
   I followed your instructions and received the following:
   
   [1486] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC

   [1486] dbg: dcc: dccifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found
   [1486] dbg: dcc: dccproc is not available: no dccproc executable found
   [1486] dbg: dcc: dccifd and dccproc are not available, disabling DCC
   
   After seeing that, I NAT-ed 1023 local to 6277 remote and 6277 remote to 
   1023 to my mail server in my firewall. I ran the test again and received 
   the same message.


Your firewall is not the problem shown here.  SpamAssassin can't find
the dcc socket and executable.  Do you have DCC installed?  If so,
where is the dccproc executable?  Did you start dccifd?  Where is the
dccifd socket?  SpamAssassin needs to know where they are.  You can
use various configuration options to tell SpamAssassin where to look,
for example:
  ## DCC options (Admin only)
  dcc_home /var/lib/dcc
  dcc_dccifd_path /var/lib/dcc/dccifd
  dcc_path /usr/bin/dccproc

-jeff
  
I did just install DCC, but I don't know if it is installed correctly. 
And of course, DCC's website is down 
(http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/). I used the instructions here 
instead: http://www.freespamfilter.org/FC4.html#_Toc110999211


Now when I run:
spamassassin -t -D dcc < spam_message
I get:
[2955] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC
[2955] dbg: dcc: dccifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found
[2955] dbg: dcc: dccproc is available: /usr/bin/dccproc
[2955] dbg: dcc: opening pipe: /usr/bin/dccproc -H -x 0 -a 74.86.146.6 < 
/tmp/.spamassassin2955q6p1Yatmp
[2955] dbg: dcc: got response: X-DCC-SIHOPE-DCC-3-Metrics: 
pony.performanceadmin.com 1085; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=many


and
2.2 DCC_CHECK      Listed in DCC 
(http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)

in the report

Even though the dccfid socket cannot be found, does this appear to be 
working correctly?


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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: just enabled DCC

2009-10-13 Thread Dan Schaefer

Jeff Mincy wrote:

   From: Dan Schaefer 
   Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:17:43 -0400
   
   Jeff Mincy wrote:

   >From: Dan Schaefer 
   >Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:18:44 -0400
   >
   >Jeff Mincy wrote:

   >    >From: Dan Schaefer 
   >>Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:54:29 -0400
   >>
   >>Jason Bertoch wrote:

   >>> Dan Schaefer wrote:
   >>>> I just enabled DCC yesterday and everything appears to be working 
   >>>> (DCC is registered).  Just to make sure, can someone post an email to 
   >>>> pastebin that has a DCC hit? Thanks.

   >>>>
   >>> IIRC, a message with "test" in the subject and body will match, 
   >>> although your logs should tell you what rules are hitting anyway.
   >>
   >>Is DCC_CHECK the only DCC rule? Because I didn't find that in my logs 
   >>yesterday. "test" in the subject and "test" in the body only triggered 
   >>TVD_SPACE_RATIO and BAYES_00 from my personal email address to my work 
   >>address. Any other suggestions?
   >>
   >> Use

   >>spamassassin --test-mode --debug dcc < somespammsg
   >>
   >> Should print out stuff like:
   >>
   >>08:58:51.617 0.375 0.375 [28903] dbg: dcc: network tests on, 
registering DCC
   >>08:58:54.405 3.164 0.943 [28903] dbg: dcc: dccifd is available: 
/var/lib/dcc/dccifd
   >>08:58:54.585 3.343 0.179 [28903] dbg: dcc: dccifd got response: 
X-DCC--Metrics: pinky 1356; bulk Body=3 Fuz1=4384 Fuz2=many
   >>08:58:54.585 3.343 0.000 [28903] dbg: dcc: listed: BODY=3/20 
FUZ1=4384/20 FUZ2=99/20
   >>
   >>
   >> -jeff
   >>   
   >I followed your instructions and received the following:
   >
   >[1486] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC

   >[1486] dbg: dcc: dccifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found
   >[1486] dbg: dcc: dccproc is not available: no dccproc executable found
   >[1486] dbg: dcc: dccifd and dccproc are not available, disabling DCC
   >
   >After seeing that, I NAT-ed 1023 local to 6277 remote and 6277 remote to 
   >1023 to my mail server in my firewall. I ran the test again and received 
   >the same message.

   >
   > Your firewall is not the problem shown here.  SpamAssassin can't find
   > the dcc socket and executable.  Do you have DCC installed?  If so,
   > where is the dccproc executable?  Did you start dccifd?  Where is the
   > dccifd socket?  SpamAssassin needs to know where they are.  You can
   > use various configuration options to tell SpamAssassin where to look,
   > for example:
   >   ## DCC options (Admin only)
   >   dcc_home /var/lib/dcc
   >   dcc_dccifd_path /var/lib/dcc/dccifd
   >   dcc_path /usr/bin/dccproc
   >
   > -jeff
   >   
   I did just install DCC, but I don't know if it is installed correctly. 
   And of course, DCC's website is down 
   (http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/). I used the instructions here 
   instead: http://www.freespamfilter.org/FC4.html#_Toc110999211
   
   Now when I run:

   spamassassin -t -D dcc < spam_message
   I get:
   [2955] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC
   [2955] dbg: dcc: dccifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found
   [2955] dbg: dcc: dccproc is available: /usr/bin/dccproc
   [2955] dbg: dcc: opening pipe: /usr/bin/dccproc -H -x 0 -a 74.86.146.6 < 
   /tmp/.spamassassin2955q6p1Yatmp
   [2955] dbg: dcc: got response: X-DCC-SIHOPE-DCC-3-Metrics: 
   pony.performanceadmin.com 1085; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=many
   
   and
   2.2 DCC_CHECK  Listed in DCC 
   (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)

   in the report
   
   Even though the dccfid socket cannot be found, does this appear to be 
   working correctly?


Yes dccproc is working.  You got a hit on DCC_CHECK.  


You should use dccifd if possible.  It is faster.

-jeff
  
I added the following lines to my local.cf and everything seems to be 
working now

dcc_home/etc/dcc
dcc_dccifd_path /etc/dcc/dccifd

I now get:
[4817] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC
[4817] dbg: dcc: dccifd is available: /etc/dcc/dccifd
[4817] dbg: dcc: dccifd got response: X-DCC-SIHOPE-DCC-3-Metrics: 
pony.performanceadmin.com 1085; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=many


Thanks for everyone's help.

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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



OT: Thunderbird filter

2009-10-23 Thread Dan Schaefer
The emails being sent to postfix-users-dig...@cloud9.net are messing 
with my head. I setup a filter to put emails sent to 
users@spamassassin.apache.org into a SA folder. Whenever an email gets 
sent to postfix-users-dig...@cloud9.net, I think there's something wrong 
with TB. I have subsequently added a filter for that address as well.


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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: OT: Thunderbird filter

2009-10-23 Thread Dan Schaefer

Dan Schaefer wrote:
The emails being sent to postfix-users-dig...@cloud9.net are messing 
with my head. I setup a filter to put emails sent to 
users@spamassassin.apache.org into a SA folder. Whenever an email gets 
sent to postfix-users-dig...@cloud9.net, I think there's something 
wrong with TB. I have subsequently added a filter for that address as 
well.



I'm an idiot...wrong user list :-[

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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: Is this list working?

2009-10-26 Thread Dan Schaefer

Lars Ebeling wrote:

Or am I blacklisted?


I got it.

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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: Geocities closed

2009-10-27 Thread Dan Schaefer

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 05:50 -0700, John Rudd wrote:


You're assuming that spammers will perfectly update all existing spam.
 There might be crud floating around out there for a while to come.
  


On 27.10.09 13:06, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
  

I'm not assuming anything John. Spam with no endgame is pointless spam.
All spam has a point and purpose - or it would not exist. Most spammers
staging or springboarding from such places turn their links around
mighty fast - they know they wont be up for long, so whilst I sure there
may be the odd 'floater' around, the enemy is formidable and ahead of
the game.



Are we talking that the spam should not exist or about the spam still
exists?

The fact is, that if we get old spam, we should detect it, regardless if
spammers make money on it or not. 

  
I was about to write something to that effect. Not all spam is created 
to make money. There is the annoyance factor as well. After the 
geocities rules are not enforced anymore (and I'm sure Spammers are 
monitoring this list and the the SA rules), the spammers could start up 
the geocities spam again just to annoy the users and admins, even though 
they will be broken links. SA is going to have to re-instate the rules 
at some point.


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Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.



Re: Russian spam

2010-01-25 Thread Dan Schaefer

On 1-25-2010 8:42 AM, Richard Smits wrote:
Does anyone knows any tricks to fight russian spam ? We are getting a 
lot of this for the last weeks.
I have dealt with Russian spam by using on "en" in the ok_languages 
variable and increasing the score for "UNWANTED_LANGUAGE_BODY" to 10. I 
also increased the "CHARSET_FARAWAY" and "CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER" 
scores. However, the email addresses on the server I manage are all 
English speaking people, so be careful with the changes you make.


Dan Schaefer
Web Developer/Systems Analyst
Performance Administration Corp.