Re: The 'believe-it' spams

2008-02-24 Thread Kathryn Allan

How do you set a rule to expire?

Kate

Bob Proulx wrote:

Jonathan Nichols wrote:
  

What was the rule you added? :)



I just did the brute force thing and looked for an entire phrase from
that message.  It really isn't worthy and this will change very
quickly such that any rule I post now won't be interesting to have in
a ruleset in a couple of days.  It needs to expire.

  body TV_ARM_SPAM_1/^Well we have developed the TV arm for every 
website in the world/
  describe TV_ARM_SPAM_1TV Arm Spam
  score TV_ARM_SPAM_1   5.5

It is just a brute force rule that works today on that particular wave
of incoming spam.

Bob
  




Re: Suggestions to block this spam

2008-02-19 Thread Kathryn Allan
I just implemented Justins ruleset and it looks as if they will now be 
caught YAY thanks for the tip.
Has anyone had trouble with fp's using this ruleset the ones its hitting 
seem to score high (4)


Thanks
Kate


Bob Proulx wrote:

Kathryn Allan wrote:
  

The url to pastebin is http://pastebin.ca/910275
apologies if this is wrong - its my first time using pastebin.



Your pastebin of the message body was good.  Normally it would be
better to paste the full headers in too so that we can run the message
through the tools directly but in this case we have all been seeing a
lot of those spam messages and are very familiar with them.

Another comment about pastebin is that for temporary stuff like this
it is good to set an expiration on it.  In the long term it is junk
and so expiring it saves disk space there and on the search engines
that thread it and generally allows things to clean up afterward.
Other pastebin sites set an expiration by default but on pastebin.ca
you need to manually set one.  It is the "Expire this post in:"
pulldown setting.

To combat this spam Justin has recently posted about his sought.cf rules.

  Justin Mason recently wrote:
by the way, just to get back to this original topic -- my "sought.cf"
ruleset has caught these nicely for months.  It's very good for this
kind of spam: http://taint.org/2007/08/15/004348a.html

I am using them to good effect (Thanks Justin!) and your message
scored the following for me:

 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 4.0 JM_SOUGHT_1JM_SOUGHT_1
 4.0 JM_SOUGHT_3JM_SOUGHT_3

My Bayes engine has learned these as mostly spam but yours probably
has not.  Plus it wouldn't be enough by itself.  But the sought rules
have been doing good at handling the surge of "today's spam" messages
as they change rapidly.

Bob
  


Re: Suggestions to block this spam

2008-02-19 Thread Kathryn Allan

I have removed the extras and changed the expiry.
http://pastebin.ca/910360

Thanks for the help
Kate


Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:36 +1300, Kathryn Allan wrote:

  

Thanks I will try the suggestions in the other post.
I have updated the pastebin with header - i think : )
http://pastebin.ca/910315



It is a multipart/alternative message -- in this case HTML. ;)  For
reference, please, always paste the entire, raw message. Don't
copy-n-paste what your MUA displays as body. (I was going to reply to
your previous mail, but you beat me to it.)

Also, there now are three copies. ;)  The other one you pasted just a
minute after this got an expiration time. However, it much too short for
mailing list conversation. 4 hours is not sufficient.

  guenther


  


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Re: Suggestions to block this spam

2008-02-19 Thread Kathryn Allan

Hmm the update changed the link i think
http://pastebin.ca/910320

Bob Proulx wrote:

Kathryn Allan wrote:
  

The url to pastebin is http://pastebin.ca/910275
apologies if this is wrong - its my first time using pastebin.



Your pastebin of the message body was good.  Normally it would be
better to paste the full headers in too so that we can run the message
through the tools directly but in this case we have all been seeing a
lot of those spam messages and are very familiar with them.

Another comment about pastebin is that for temporary stuff like this
it is good to set an expiration on it.  In the long term it is junk
and so expiring it saves disk space there and on the search engines
that thread it and generally allows things to clean up afterward.
Other pastebin sites set an expiration by default but on pastebin.ca
you need to manually set one.  It is the "Expire this post in:"
pulldown setting.

To combat this spam Justin has recently posted about his sought.cf rules.

  Justin Mason recently wrote:
by the way, just to get back to this original topic -- my "sought.cf"
ruleset has caught these nicely for months.  It's very good for this
kind of spam: http://taint.org/2007/08/15/004348a.html

I am using them to good effect (Thanks Justin!) and your message
scored the following for me:

 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 4.0 JM_SOUGHT_1JM_SOUGHT_1
 4.0 JM_SOUGHT_3JM_SOUGHT_3

My Bayes engine has learned these as mostly spam but yours probably
has not.  Plus it wouldn't be enough by itself.  But the sought rules
have been doing good at handling the surge of "today's spam" messages
as they change rapidly.

Bob
  


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Re: Suggestions to block this spam

2008-02-19 Thread Kathryn Allan

Hi Bob,

Thanks I will try the suggestions in the other post.
I have updated the pastebin with header - i think : )
http://pastebin.ca/910315

Thanks again
Kate

Bob Proulx wrote:

Kathryn Allan wrote:
  

The url to pastebin is http://pastebin.ca/910275
apologies if this is wrong - its my first time using pastebin.



Your pastebin of the message body was good.  Normally it would be
better to paste the full headers in too so that we can run the message
through the tools directly but in this case we have all been seeing a
lot of those spam messages and are very familiar with them.

Another comment about pastebin is that for temporary stuff like this
it is good to set an expiration on it.  In the long term it is junk
and so expiring it saves disk space there and on the search engines
that thread it and generally allows things to clean up afterward.
Other pastebin sites set an expiration by default but on pastebin.ca
you need to manually set one.  It is the "Expire this post in:"
pulldown setting.

To combat this spam Justin has recently posted about his sought.cf rules.

  Justin Mason recently wrote:
by the way, just to get back to this original topic -- my "sought.cf"
ruleset has caught these nicely for months.  It's very good for this
kind of spam: http://taint.org/2007/08/15/004348a.html

I am using them to good effect (Thanks Justin!) and your message
scored the following for me:

 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 4.0 JM_SOUGHT_1JM_SOUGHT_1
 4.0 JM_SOUGHT_3JM_SOUGHT_3

My Bayes engine has learned these as mostly spam but yours probably
has not.  Plus it wouldn't be enough by itself.  But the sought rules
have been doing good at handling the surge of "today's spam" messages
as they change rapidly.

Bob
  


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Re: Suggestions to block this spam

2008-02-19 Thread Kathryn Allan

Hi,

The url to pastebin is http://pastebin.ca/910275
apologies if this is wrong - its my first time using pastebin.

Thanks
Kate

--[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:

please post a URL to a sample message, or via pastebin so that we can run it 
through our installations and see what it hits.

what is your SA installation hitting and scoring it as ?

Regards,

  


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Suggestions to block this spam

2008-02-19 Thread Kathryn Allan

Hi all,

Getting tones of this sort of email through have been learning it as 
spam for the last few days but so far not much luck.


-->start of message 2 examples

Aloha,***
Real men!* Milliions of people acrosss the world have already tested THIS

Goedendag, ***
Real men!* * *MMillions of people acrross the world have already tested THIS

thanks
kate


using sare rules

2008-02-17 Thread Kathryn Allan

Hi all,

I have recently inherited the responsibility of looking after our spam 
machine as such i'm having a few teething issues : )


I just followed the instructions in the sare-sa-update-howto.txt I am 
just a bit confused as to whether I have done it correctly originally in 
the /var/lib/spamassassin/3.xxx folder there was the 
updates_spamassassin_org folder and cf file.


Now there is also the key file the sare-sa-update-channels.txt as well 
as the full that I wanted to add (which has a file and a folder)


I would have though that the rule file would have ended up inside the 
updates_spamassassin_org folder as all the other .cf files seem to be 
inside there.


Can someone let me know if I have done something wrong.

Thanks
Kate