RE: Blocking .exe in zips (was Re: Lots of Polish spam)

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Miller
That's what I did.  I went with Zendto also as David Jones recommended.  It 
works great, and solves both the restricted file issue as well as an email size 
problem.  It's not unusual for users to attach half a dozen photos to a message 
these days and never realize they're 8-10 MB each...

...Kevin
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155 South Seward Street
Juneau, Alaska 99801
Phone: (907) 586-0242, Fax: (907) 586-4500
Registered Linux User No: 307357 


> -Original Message-
> From: Yves Goergen [mailto:nospam.l...@unclassified.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:28 PM
> To: Dave Warren; users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Blocking .exe in zips (was Re: Lots of Polish spam)
> 
> Am 25.02.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Dave Warren:
> > On 2015-02-25 12:18, David F. Skoll wrote:
> >> So far, no major complaints.  The few who really need to send such
> >> files rename them to .ex_ before zipping them up.  We have a fairly
> >> large userbase (more than 140,000) so I think we would have heard
> >> lots of complaints by now if people really couldn't live with the
> policy.
> >
> > Seconded. I run a small hosting company with email for hundreds of
> > clients, I've had a grand total of 0 complaints about blocking EXE,
> > SCR, COM and similar types. We maybe get one inquiry per year about
> > it, but no one has ever had a problem with .ex_ solutions, and they
> > generally understand and appreciate the approach.
> >
> > It scales up to large installations as well, Google blocks executable
> > files (even if zipped) too, and they seem to be doing alright in the
> > email world: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?hl=en
> 
> That's an interesting point, I wouldn't have thought it could work. I
> was thinking about installing a "private" file sharing website for our
> users already (ad-free and with authentication only), so that could go
> together well with an announcement that executable files would no longer
> be allowed in e-mails.
> 
> --
> Yves Goergen
> http://unclassified.software


Re: Blocking .exe in zips (was Re: Lots of Polish spam)

2015-02-25 Thread Yves Goergen

Am 25.02.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Dave Warren:

On 2015-02-25 12:18, David F. Skoll wrote:

So far, no major complaints.  The few who really need to send such files
rename them to .ex_ before zipping them up.  We have a fairly large
userbase (more than 140,000) so I think we would have heard lots of
complaints by now if people really couldn't live with the policy.


Seconded. I run a small hosting company with email for hundreds of
clients, I've had a grand total of 0 complaints about blocking EXE, SCR,
COM and similar types. We maybe get one inquiry per year about it, but
no one has ever had a problem with .ex_ solutions, and they generally
understand and appreciate the approach.

It scales up to large installations as well, Google blocks executable
files (even if zipped) too, and they seem to be doing alright in the
email world: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?hl=en


That's an interesting point, I wouldn't have thought it could work. I 
was thinking about installing a "private" file sharing website for our 
users already (ad-free and with authentication only), so that could go 
together well with an announcement that executable files would no longer 
be allowed in e-mails.


--
Yves Goergen
http://unclassified.software


Re: Blocking .exe in zips (was Re: Lots of Polish spam)

2015-02-25 Thread Dave Warren

On 2015-02-25 12:18, David F. Skoll wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:06:02 +0100
Yves Goergen  wrote:


If the mail server now blocks all .exe in .zip without
actually scanning the contents, they're going to complain.

<...>

So far, no major complaints.  The few who really need to send such files
rename them to .ex_ before zipping them up.  We have a fairly large
userbase (more than 140,000) so I think we would have heard lots of
complaints by now if people really couldn't live with the policy.


Seconded. I run a small hosting company with email for hundreds of 
clients, I've had a grand total of 0 complaints about blocking EXE, SCR, 
COM and similar types. We maybe get one inquiry per year about it, but 
no one has ever had a problem with .ex_ solutions, and they generally 
understand and appreciate the approach.


It scales up to large installations as well, Google blocks executable 
files (even if zipped) too, and they seem to be doing alright in the 
email world: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?hl=en


--
Dave Warren
http://www.hireahit.com/
http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren




Blocking .exe in zips (was Re: Lots of Polish spam)

2015-02-25 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:06:02 +0100
Yves Goergen  wrote:

> If the mail server now blocks all .exe in .zip without
> actually scanning the contents, they're going to complain.

At some point, you need to be firm and take care of your users'
security.  We run a commercial filtering service and we
unconditionally block exe (and scr, etc.) files whether directly
attached or in an archive.  We don't give our customers any say in
the matter, though we do of course inform them of the policy up front.

So far, no major complaints.  The few who really need to send such files
rename them to .ex_ before zipping them up.  We have a fairly large
userbase (more than 140,000) so I think we would have heard lots of
complaints by now if people really couldn't live with the policy.

Regards,

David.