Re: Mailspike scores
On Tue, 2 May 2017, RW wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2017 09:20:49 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 5/2/2017 11:53 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: I was checking to see what the scores for mailspike were on my server and I noticed that there are two sets of scores. Is this expected? 50_scores is handcoded default scores, 72_scores is generated from masscheck That's what I thought, but what's the point of having handcoded scores that are overridden by the generated scores? Reasonable default values are always a good idea. It looks like 72_scores only holds scores for rules from 72_active.cf plus scores for MSPIKE rules and SURBL_BLOCKED (what's that doing there?). If 72_scores holds generated scores why are so many of then 1.000? Limits? You say that 50_scores is "handcoded default scores", but at the top of the file there's a big block of scores that are claimed to have been set by perceptron, which I understand fell-off a long time ago. They certainly look autogenerated. Check the revision history in SVN. http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rules/50_scores.cf On the face of it it looks a lot of the rules I assumed were autoscored are using scores generated years ago. Potentially. I have not done a detailed review. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- Maxim IV: Close air support covereth a multitude of sins. --- 6 days until the 72nd anniversary of VE day
Re: Mailspike scores
On Tue, 2 May 2017 09:20:49 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > On 5/2/2017 11:53 AM, John Hardin wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> > >> > I was checking to see what the scores for mailspike were on my > >> > server and I noticed that there are two sets of scores. > >> > > >> > Is this expected? > >> > >> 50_scores is handcoded default scores, 72_scores is generated from > >> masscheck > > > > That's what I thought, but what's the point of having handcoded > > scores that are overridden by the generated scores? > > Reasonable default values are always a good idea. It looks like 72_scores only holds scores for rules from 72_active.cf plus scores for MSPIKE rules and SURBL_BLOCKED (what's that doing there?). If 72_scores holds generated scores why are so many of then 1.000? You say that 50_scores is "handcoded default scores", but at the top of the file there's a big block of scores that are claimed to have been set by perceptron, which I understand fell-off a long time ago. They certainly look autogenerated. On the face of it it looks a lot of the rules I assumed were autoscored are using scores generated years ago.
Re: Mailspike scores
On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 5/2/2017 11:53 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: > I was checking to see what the scores for mailspike were on my server > and I noticed that there are two sets of scores. > > Is this expected? 50_scores is handcoded default scores, 72_scores is generated from masscheck That's what I thought, but what's the point of having handcoded scores that are overridden by the generated scores? Reasonable default values are always a good idea. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- USMC Rules of Gunfighting #4: If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly. --- 6 days until the 72nd anniversary of VE day
Re: Mailspike scores
On 5/2/2017 11:53 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: I was checking to see what the scores for mailspike were on my server and I noticed that there are two sets of scores. 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_ZBI 2.7 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5 2.5 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L4 1.7 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3 0.9 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 -0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 -0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 -1.0 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL -0.01 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 0.001 0.010 0.001 0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 0.001 -2.800 0.001 -2.800 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 0.001 -1.000 0.001 -1.000 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L2 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L4 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_ZBI0.001 0.001 0.001 -1.001 Is this expected? 50_scores is handcoded default scores, 72_scores is generated from masscheck That's what I thought, but what's the point of having handcoded scores that are overridden by the generated scores? -- Bowie
Re: Mailspike scores
On Tue, 2 May 2017, Bowie Bailey wrote: I was checking to see what the scores for mailspike were on my server and I noticed that there are two sets of scores. 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_ZBI 2.7 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5 2.5 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L4 1.7 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3 0.9 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 -0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 -0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 -1.0 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL -0.01 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 0.001 0.010 0.001 0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 0.001 -2.800 0.001 -2.800 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 0.001 -1.000 0.001 -1.000 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L2 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L4 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_ZBI0.001 0.001 0.001 -1.001 Is this expected? 50_scores is handcoded default scores, 72_scores is generated from masscheck. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- How do you argue with people to whom math is an opinion? -- Unknown --- 6 days until the 72nd anniversary of VE day
Mailspike scores
I was checking to see what the scores for mailspike were on my server and I noticed that there are two sets of scores. 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_ZBI 2.7 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5 2.5 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L4 1.7 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3 0.9 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 -0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 -0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 -1.0 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 0.01 50_scores.cf: score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL -0.01 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 0.001 0.010 0.001 0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 0.001 -2.800 0.001 -2.800 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 0.001 -1.000 0.001 -1.000 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L2 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L4 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL 0.001 -0.010 0.001 -0.010 72_scores.cf:score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_ZBI0.001 0.001 0.001 0.001 Is this expected? -- Bowie
