Re: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-19 Thread mouss
Evan Platt a écrit :
 At 10:48 PM 2/17/2006, you wrote:
 
 Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me,
 succeeded in passing SA for some reason!

 I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated
 (manual updates so far)

 I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeking your kind
 assistance in determining how it passed the tests and what am I
 supposed to do in order to prevent these messages?
 
 
 If you'd like to *BLOCK* such messages, use the postfix header_checks to
 block any mail that is both from AND to you. (I can't help you with the
 syntax there, but I'm sure someone else can.
 
 

he can't. postfix header_checks look at headers one at a time. he can
use procmail/maildrop/... etc. whether this is safe is another issue.



Re: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-19 Thread mouss
Yousef Raffah a écrit :
 Received: from emailmarketingmasters.com (i538754C0.versanet.de
 [83.135.84.192]) by kansai.savoladns.com (Postfix) with SMTP id
 7B42810073 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:21 +0300 (AST)

you could
- use njabl's dynablock to block the client (83.135.84.192). (Don't use
sorbs).
- reject helo when it's emailmarketingmasters.com
- greylist clients that match /\d{5}/ (don't block as this is unsafe).




Re: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread hamann . w


Hi Youzef,

I am suggesting something that has been discussed controversially in the past:
dont let the mail even reach SA
I would assume that mail reaching my mailserver and saying it is from my domain
would be mail submitted by one of my users, so I have changed the MTA to require
authentication. At the time I did that, the only valid mail with forged sender 
was some
kind of ebay notification, but they seem to have changed that.

Your headers dont show anything about SA testing;
there was a discussion about SA not scanning messages occasionally
Also I would expect that emailmarketingmasters.com should show up in various
RBLs - check whether you have network tests enabled

Wolfgang Hamann

 
 
 Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me,
 succeeded in passing SA for some reason!
 
 I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated
 (manual updates so far)
 
 I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeking your kind
 assistance in determining how it passed the tests and what am I
 supposed to do in order to prevent these messages?
 
 Here are the headers of the message
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from 10.10.10.50 by mailsrv with ESMTP id 44344701140190415;
 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:33:35 +0300
 Received: from kansai.savoladns.com ([10.10.10.10]) by imssr with
 trend_isnt_name_B; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:31 +0300
 Received: from kansai.savoladns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost
 (kansai.savoladns.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP
 id 19503-12 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:23 +0300
 (AST)
 Received: from emailmarketingmasters.com (i538754C0.versanet.de
 [83.135.84.192]) by kansai.savoladns.com (Postfix) with SMTP id
 7B42810073 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:21 +0300 (AST)
 Received: from 208.153.96.3 (SquirrelMail authenticated user
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]); by emailmarketingmasters.com with HTTP id
 J85Gz008484008; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:42:56 +
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:42:56 +  (18:42 AST)
 Subject: In the Heart of Your Business!
 From: Alishia Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/html
 X-Priority: 3
 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at savola.com
 
 Notice that the sender used my address as their E-mail address (forged
 mail)
 
 Running:
 SA SpamAssassin Client version 3.1.0
 amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822)
 Postfix 2.2.5
 
 Sincerely,
 Yousef Raffah
 Senior Systems Administrator
 SSIS - The Savola Group
 
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Re: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Yousef Raffah
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 08:05 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Youzef,
 
Hello Wolfgang
 I am suggesting something that has been discussed controversially in the past:
 dont let the mail even reach SA
 I would assume that mail reaching my mailserver and saying it is from my 
 domain
 would be mail submitted by one of my users, so I have changed the MTA to 
 require
 authentication. At the time I did that, the only valid mail with forged 
 sender was some
 kind of ebay notification, but they seem to have changed that.
 
I have my postfix check SPF records, as far as I remember, check my
postconf -n at the bottom of the message

 Your headers dont show anything about SA testing;
 there was a discussion about SA not scanning messages occasionally
That's why I'm worried about it not showing anything related to SA in
the headers!!

 Also I would expect that emailmarketingmasters.com should show up in various
 RBLs - check whether you have network tests enabled
 
here is my postconf -n which shows I have several network tests enabled
(RBLs if I'm not mistaking)

postconf -n
biff = no
bounce_queue_lifetime = 1d
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
default_destination_concurrency_limit = 30
delay_warning_time = 1h
disable_vrfy_command = yes
empty_address_recipient = MAILER-DAEMON
header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
home_mailbox = .maildir/
inet_interfaces = all
local_recipient_maps =
local_transport = error:local mail delivery is disabled
mail_owner = postfix
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
message_size_limit = 2048
mydestination =
mydomain = savoladns.com
myhostname = kansai.savoladns.com
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 222.22.1.191/32, 222.22.1.157/32,
172.31.12.10/32, 222.22.1.105/32
myorigin = savola.com
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases
notify_classes = resource, software, protocol
proxy_interfaces = 212.12.174.6
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
queue_minfree = 12000
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.2.5/readme
relay_domains = $transport_maps
relay_recipient_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relay_recipients
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail
setgid_group = postdrop
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_recipient
reject_non_fqdn_sender reject_unknown_sender_domain
reject_unknown_recipient_domain permit_mynetworks
reject_unauth_destination check_recipient_access
hash:/etc/postfix/roleaccount_exception reject_multi_recipient_bounce
check_helo_access pcre:/etc/postfix/helo_checks reject_non_fqdn_hostname
reject_invalid_hostname check_policy_service unix:private/policy-spf
check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access reject_rbl_client
relays.ordb.org reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org reject_rbl_client
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org check_sender_access
hash:/etc/postfix/rhsbl_sender_exceptions reject_rhsbl_sender
dsn.rfc-ignorant.org permit
smtpd_restriction_classes = greylist
strict_rfc821_envelopes = yes
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-aliases.cf



 Wolfgang Hamann
 
  
  
  Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me,
  succeeded in passing SA for some reason!
  
  I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated
  (manual updates so far)
  
  I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeking your kind
  assistance in determining how it passed the tests and what am I
  supposed to do in order to prevent these messages?
  
  Here are the headers of the message
  
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: from 10.10.10.50 by mailsrv with ESMTP id 44344701140190415;
  Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:33:35 +0300
  Received: from kansai.savoladns.com ([10.10.10.10]) by imssr with
  trend_isnt_name_B; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:31 +0300
  Received: from kansai.savoladns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost
  (kansai.savoladns.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP
  id 19503-12 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:23 +0300
  (AST)
  Received: from emailmarketingmasters.com (i538754C0.versanet.de
  [83.135.84.192]) by kansai.savoladns.com (Postfix) with SMTP id
  7B42810073 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:43:21 +0300 (AST)
  Received: from 208.153.96.3 (SquirrelMail authenticated user
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]); by emailmarketingmasters.com with HTTP id
  J85Gz008484008; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:42:56 +
  Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:42:56 +  (18:42 AST)
  Subject: In the Heart of Your Business!
  From: Alishia Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
  X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: text/html
  X-Priority: 3
  X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at savola.com
  
  Notice that the sender used my address as their E-mail address (forged

RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Gary V


Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me,
succeeded in passing SA for some reason!

I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated
(manual updates so far)

I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeking your kind
assistance in determining how it passed the tests and what am I
supposed to do in order to prevent these messages?

Yousef Raffah


If you have only received one spam so far, you have either done a very good 
job of setting up your system or your spam threshold is set too low. Do you 
really think it is possible to stop every single piece of spam (without a 
lot of false positives)? Don't you think spammers know about blacklists and 
SpamAssassin? They work very hard at composing messages that will not get 
blocked by SpamAssassin. If you are one of the first to receive a spam 
mailer from them, their mail may not yet be in any network based blacklists. 
You should use sa-learn to feed this message to Bayes. If you get the same 
message a number of times, you should consider learning how to create custom 
rules (which involves some basic understanding of regex). Without the entire 
message I don't think anyone can determine if there is some problem with 
your system, or if this particular spam simply scored low because the 
spammer is good at what they do. BTW, it is helpful to see what rules hit. 
Since you don't have the X-Spam-Status report, it will be difficult to 
diagnose. There is no way to know on our end if the sender was whitelisted 
or auto-whitelisted. In amavisd-new you should lower $sa_tag_level_deflt so 
both spam and ham get the X-Spam-Status header.


$sa_tag_level_deflt  = undef; # add spam info headers if at, or above that 
level;

  # undef is interpreted as lower than any spam level

and make sure .royah.com is included in your @local_domains_maps because the 
headers will only get written if the domain is considered local.


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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Yousef Raffah
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 08:45 -0700, Gary V wrote:
 Without the entire 
 message I don't think anyone can determine if there is some problem
 with 
 your system, or if this particular spam simply scored low because the 
 spammer is good at what they do. BTW, it is helpful to see what rules
 hit. 
This is the body of the message:
Corporate image can say a lot of things about your company. Contemporary
rhythm of life is too dynamic.
Sometimes it takes only several seconds for your company to be
remembered or to be lost amonq competitors.
Get your logo, business stationery or website done right now!

Fast turnaround: you will see severaI loqo variants in three business
days.
Satisfaction quaranteed: we provide unIimited amount of changes; you can
be sure: it wiIl meet your needs
and fit your business.
FlexibIe discounts: loqo improvement, additionaI formats, bulk orders,
special packages.
Creative design for competitive price: have a look at it right now! 

__ 
not interested...


 Since you don't have the X-Spam-Status report, it will be difficult
 to 
 diagnose. There is no way to know on our end if the sender was
 whitelisted 
 or auto-whitelisted. In amavisd-new you should lower
 $sa_tag_level_deflt so 
 both spam and ham get the X-Spam-Status header.
 
 $sa_tag_level_deflt  = undef; # add spam info headers if at, or above
 that 
 level;
   # undef is interpreted as lower than any
 spam level
 
 and make sure .royah.com is included in your @local_domains_maps
 because the 
 headers will only get written if the domain is considered local.
 
Should I have .royah.com in my @local_domains_maps even if the postfix
+amavisd-new+SA machine is just a gateway and does not have local
accounts?

Many thanks for your reply

Sincerely,
Yousef Raffah
Senior Systems Administrator
SSIS - The Savola Group

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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Gary V

On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 08:45 -0700, Gary V wrote:
 Without the entire
 message I don't think anyone can determine if there is some problem
 with
 your system, or if this particular spam simply scored low because the
 spammer is good at what they do. BTW, it is helpful to see what rules
 hit.
This is the body of the message:
Corporate image can say a lot of things about your company. Contemporary
rhythm of life is too dynamic.
Sometimes it takes only several seconds for your company to be
remembered or to be lost amonq competitors.
Get your logo, business stationery or website done right now!

Fast turnaround: you will see severaI loqo variants in three business
days.
Satisfaction quaranteed: we provide unIimited amount of changes; you can
be sure: it wiIl meet your needs
and fit your business.
FlexibIe discounts: loqo improvement, additionaI formats, bulk orders,
special packages.
Creative design for competitive price: have a look at it right now!

__
not interested...



I can certainly see why this is not considered spam. There is not much here 
at all that would make this different from a ham message. I created a 
message with these contents and sent it to myself from my yahoo account and 
is was considered ham. Nothing in the body triggered a rule. This is one of 
those types of messages that I would feed to Bayes, then delete and forget 
about. If I got the the same message a number of times I would possibly 
create a custom rule based on the Subject. Most likely a custom rule for 
this would only be good for about a week, then I would probably never see 
another message with the same subject again, so after a week the rule would 
be a complete waste. I think you simply need to accept the fact that there 
is stuff like this that will make it through.




 Since you don't have the X-Spam-Status report, it will be difficult
 to
 diagnose. There is no way to know on our end if the sender was
 whitelisted
 or auto-whitelisted. In amavisd-new you should lower
 $sa_tag_level_deflt so
 both spam and ham get the X-Spam-Status header.

 $sa_tag_level_deflt  = undef; # add spam info headers if at, or above
 that
 level;
   # undef is interpreted as lower than any
 spam level

 and make sure .royah.com is included in your @local_domains_maps
 because the
 headers will only get written if the domain is considered local.

Should I have .royah.com in my @local_domains_maps even if the postfix
+amavisd-new+SA machine is just a gateway and does not have local
accounts?


Yes, and any other domains for which this gateway relays mail. This is 
necessary if you want to see X-Spam type headers.




Many thanks for your reply

Sincerely,
Yousef Raffah


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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread List Mail User
...
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 08:45 -0700, Gary V wrote:
  Without the entire
  message I don't think anyone can determine if there is some problem
  with
  your system, or if this particular spam simply scored low because the
  spammer is good at what they do. BTW, it is helpful to see what rules
  hit.
This is the body of the message:
Corporate image can say a lot of things about your company. Contemporary
rhythm of life is too dynamic.
Sometimes it takes only several seconds for your company to be
remembered or to be lost amonq competitors.
Get your logo, business stationery or website done right now!

Fast turnaround: you will see severaI loqo variants in three business
days.
Satisfaction quaranteed: we provide unIimited amount of changes; you can
be sure: it wiIl meet your needs
and fit your business.
FlexibIe discounts: loqo improvement, additionaI formats, bulk orders,
special packages.
Creative design for competitive price: have a look at it right now!

__
not interested...


I can certainly see why this is not considered spam. There is not much here 
at all that would make this different from a ham message. I created a 
message with these contents and sent it to myself from my yahoo account and 
is was considered ham. Nothing in the body triggered a rule. This is one of 
those types of messages that I would feed to Bayes, then delete and forget 
about. If I got the the same message a number of times I would possibly 
create a custom rule based on the Subject. Most likely a custom rule for 
this would only be good for about a week, then I would probably never see 
another message with the same subject again, so after a week the rule would 
be a complete waste. I think you simply need to accept the fact that there 
is stuff like this that will make it through.
...

A knowledge of history and a good BAYES + digest tests (DCC, Razor,
and Pyzor) will kill these.  This is the recent reincarnation of the old
set of trylogos domains - examples:
trylogos.com-MUNG
try-logos.com-MUNG
trylogos-inc.biz-MUNG
try-logos-ltd.biz-MUNG
try-logos-inc.biz-MUNG
try-x-logos.biz-MUNG
trylogos-studio.com-MUNG
trylogos-team.com-MUNG
trylogos-llc.com-MUNG

ad nasuem

Interesting connection to some Eastern European porn domains for those
who check them out.  One of the new ones is logomarka.net-MUNG.  Almost all
are registered at Parava (both old and new).  These are actually very unusual
phishing spam (from Leo/Yambo/Pavka or a related party) - If you respond, they
will request *lots* of data from you.

As far as I know, net tests are the way to catch these.  So if you
aren't running the URIBLs and digests, you won't ever get them (though MTA
RBLs to kill off zombie delivery will work).

BTW.  The recent one locally scores 31.6 points hitting the following rules:
DATE_IN_PAST_24_48. DCC_CHECK. DIGEST_MULTIPLE. INVALID_DATE.
MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID. RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100. RAZOR2_CHECK. RCVD_IN_XBL. 
SPF_HELO_FAIL. URIBL_JP_SURBL. URIBL_OB_SURBL. URIBL_RHS_ABUSE.
URIBL_RHS_DSN. URIBL_RHS_NOCOMPLAINTS. URIBL_RHS_NOSTDMAIL. 
URIBL_RHS_POST. URIBL_RHS_URIBL_BLACK. URIBL_RHS_WHOIS. URIBL_SC_SURBL.
URIBL_WS_SURBL. URIBL_XS_SURBL
Though when it arrived, the SURBLs and URIBL didn't all have it listed yet;
The digests already did (they react faster - it is their nature).


Paul Shupak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some similar text from year old spam and one from a week and a half ago:


 Sample #1 (from a comcast zombie - 1 Jun 2005) 

Our art team creates a custom logo for you, based on your needs.  Years of 
experience have taught us how to create a logo that makes a statement that
is unique to you.

In a professiona l manner we learn about your image and how you would like the 
world to perceive you and your company.  With this information we then
create a logo that is not only unique but reflects the purpose of you and your 
company.

For value and a logo that reflects your image, take a few minutes and visit Try 
Logos!

http://www4.trylogos-inc.biz-MUNG/

Sincerely,
Logo Design Team






http://www4.trylogos-inc.biz/uns.php


 Sample #2 (from a comcast zombie - 12 Jul 2005) - Note the Try Logos! ---
- Note the use of a warez domain (most of the trylogos domains were suspended) -
-- Also check the whois and see a Kuvayev porn domain used for DNS ---

Our art team creates a custom logo for you, based on your needs.  Years of 
experience have taught us how to create a logo that makes a statement that
is unique to you.

In a pr ofessional manner we learn 

RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Gary V


A knowledge of history and a good BAYES + digest tests (DCC, Razor,
and Pyzor) will kill these.

As far as I know, net tests are the way to catch these.  So if you
aren't running the URIBLs and digests, you won't ever get them (though MTA
RBLs to kill off zombie delivery will work).

Paul Shupak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


This illustrates the importance of seeing the X-Spam headers and providing a 
complete picture. I'm sure that the problem mail as shown (incomplete I must 
assume) should have hit at least hit one network based test (unless you are 
one of the unfortunate first people to receive this spam). If it did not hit 
at least one, then we might assume there may indeed be ways to improve the 
situation. Make sure network based test are performed; set:


$sa_local_tests_only = 0;

in your amavisd.conf. And if DCC and Razor are installed, make sure they are 
enabled in v310.pre.


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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Gary V


A knowledge of history and a good BAYES + digest tests (DCC, Razor,
and Pyzor) will kill these.

As far as I know, net tests are the way to catch these.  So if you
aren't running the URIBLs and digests, you won't ever get them (though MTA
RBLs to kill off zombie delivery will work).

Paul Shupak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


This illustrates the importance of seeing the X-Spam headers and providing a 
complete picture. I will make an assumption the sample was missing important 
information (like a URI). It's quite possible the problem mail should have 
hit at least hit one network based test (unless you are one of the 
unfortunate first people to receive this spam). If it did not hit at least 
one, then there may indeed be ways to improve the situation. Make sure 
network based test are not disabled; set:


$sa_local_tests_only = 0;

in your amavisd.conf. And if DCC and Razor are installed, make sure they are 
enabled in v310.pre.


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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Yousef Raffah
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 09:53 -0700, Gary V wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 08:45 -0700, Gary V wrote:
   Without the entire
   message I don't think anyone can determine if there is some problem
   with
   your system, or if this particular spam simply scored low because the
   spammer is good at what they do. BTW, it is helpful to see what rules
   hit.
 This is the body of the message:
 Corporate image can say a lot of things about your company. Contemporary
 rhythm of life is too dynamic.
 Sometimes it takes only several seconds for your company to be
 remembered or to be lost amonq competitors.
 Get your logo, business stationery or website done right now!
 
 Fast turnaround: you will see severaI loqo variants in three business
 days.
 Satisfaction quaranteed: we provide unIimited amount of changes; you can
 be sure: it wiIl meet your needs
 and fit your business.
 FlexibIe discounts: loqo improvement, additionaI formats, bulk orders,
 special packages.
 Creative design for competitive price: have a look at it right now!
 
 __
 not interested...
 
 
 I can certainly see why this is not considered spam. There is not much here 
 at all that would make this different from a ham message. I created a 
 message with these contents and sent it to myself from my yahoo account and 
 is was considered ham. Nothing in the body triggered a rule. This is one of 
 those types of messages that I would feed to Bayes, then delete and forget 
 about. If I got the the same message a number of times I would possibly 
 create a custom rule based on the Subject. Most likely a custom rule for 
 this would only be good for about a week, then I would probably never see 
 another message with the same subject again, so after a week the rule would 
 be a complete waste. I think you simply need to accept the fact that there 
 is stuff like this that will make it through.
 
Sure I will accept that and thank you very much for your kind
explanations :)
 
   Since you don't have the X-Spam-Status report, it will be difficult
   to
   diagnose. There is no way to know on our end if the sender was
   whitelisted
   or auto-whitelisted. In amavisd-new you should lower
   $sa_tag_level_deflt so
   both spam and ham get the X-Spam-Status header.
  
   $sa_tag_level_deflt  = undef; # add spam info headers if at, or above
   that
   level;
 # undef is interpreted as lower than any
   spam level
  
   and make sure .royah.com is included in your @local_domains_maps
   because the
   headers will only get written if the domain is considered local.
  
 Should I have .royah.com in my @local_domains_maps even if the postfix
 +amavisd-new+SA machine is just a gateway and does not have local
 accounts?
 
 Yes, and any other domains for which this gateway relays mail. This is 
 necessary if you want to see X-Spam type headers.
 
Great, now I have it set as:
@local_domains_maps =
( [ .$mydomain, '.royah.com' ] );
 
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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Yousef Raffah




On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 17:13 -0700, Gary V wrote:



	A knowledge of history and a good BAYES + digest tests (DCC, Razor,
and Pyzor) will kill these.

	As far as I know, net tests are the way to catch these.  So if you
aren't running the URIBLs and digests, you won't ever get them (though MTA
RBLs to kill off zombie delivery will work).

	Paul Shupak
	[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This illustrates the importance of seeing the X-Spam headers and providing a 
complete picture. I'm sure that the problem mail as shown (incomplete I must 
assume) should have hit at least hit one network based test (unless you are 
one of the unfortunate first people to receive this spam). If it did not hit 
at least one, then we might assume there may indeed be ways to improve the 
situation. Make sure network based test are performed; set:

$sa_local_tests_only = 0;

in your amavisd.conf. And if DCC and Razor are installed, make sure they are 
enabled in v310.pre.



I have $sa_local_tests_only = 0; but how can I ensure the other part? I mean the v310.pre? I'm sorry but I couldn't get it


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RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread Yousef Raffah
On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:30 +0300, Yousef Raffah wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 17:13 -0700, Gary V wrote: 
  
 A knowledge of history and a good BAYES + digest tests (DCC, Razor,
  and Pyzor) will kill these.
  
 As far as I know, net tests are the way to catch these.  So if you
  aren't running the URIBLs and digests, you won't ever get them (though MTA
  RBLs to kill off zombie delivery will work).
  
 Paul Shupak
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  This illustrates the importance of seeing the X-Spam headers and providing 
  a 
  complete picture. I'm sure that the problem mail as shown (incomplete I 
  must 
  assume) should have hit at least hit one network based test (unless you are 
  one of the unfortunate first people to receive this spam). If it did not 
  hit 
  at least one, then we might assume there may indeed be ways to improve the 
  situation. Make sure network based test are performed; set:
  
  $sa_local_tests_only = 0;
  
  in your amavisd.conf. And if DCC and Razor are installed, make sure they 
  are 
  enabled in v310.pre.
  
 I have $sa_local_tests_only = 0; but how can I ensure the other part?
 I mean the v310.pre? I'm sorry but I couldn't get it 

oops, I got it now :) it is under /etc/mail/spamassassin/

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Re: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-17 Thread Evan Platt

At 10:48 PM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me,
succeeded in passing SA for some reason!

I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated
(manual updates so far)

I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeking your kind
assistance in determining how it passed the tests and what am I
supposed to do in order to prevent these messages?


If you'd like to *BLOCK* such messages, use the postfix header_checks 
to block any mail that is both from AND to you. (I can't help you 
with the syntax there, but I'm sure someone else can.




Here are the headers of the message


Headers wouldn't tell you (or me) what the message would score on 
another system - the full body of the message would.