RE: Outlook 2007/imap headers
Hello, Almost all my user use Outlook :( In the past with Outlook 2003, I was using an IMAP account to permit my users to transmit their spam with all the headers. But now with Outlook 2007 I lost almost all the headers when the email is moved to an IMAP account. Anyone have found a solution to this great new Outlook feature? I just moved an email from the Exchange store to my personal IMAP mailbox (Dovecot) using OL2007 but AFAICT I'm not losing any headers. Rob
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
Sorry I have forget to specify the other Microsoft tricks ;) You will continu to see all the headers in you Outlook client but if you use another email client or if you go check directly on the email server you will not have all the headers (only a part of it). * I have not test with Exchange account, only pop3. François 2009/9/1 Rob Sterenborg r.sterenb...@netsourcing.nl: Hello, Almost all my user use Outlook :( In the past with Outlook 2003, I was using an IMAP account to permit my users to transmit their spam with all the headers. But now with Outlook 2007 I lost almost all the headers when the email is moved to an IMAP account. Anyone have found a solution to this great new Outlook feature? I just moved an email from the Exchange store to my personal IMAP mailbox (Dovecot) using OL2007 but AFAICT I'm not losing any headers. Rob
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
François Rousseau wrote: Sorry I have forget to specify the other Microsoft tricks ;) You will continu to see all the headers in you Outlook client but if you use another email client or if you go check directly on the email server you will not have all the headers (only a part of it). And, exchange 2003, service pack 1 took away the ability for imap to see public folders, didn't it? -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified SNORT Integrator * 2008-9 Hot Company Award Winner, World Executive Alliance * Five-Star Partner Program 2009, VARBusiness * Best Anti-Spam Product 2008, Network Products Guide * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008 _ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.secnap.com/products/spammertrap/ _
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
On tir 01 sep 2009 16:18:37 CEST, François Rousseau wrote Almost all my user use Outlook :( why is it sad ?, it can do imap aswell as pop3 In the past with Outlook 2003, I was using an IMAP account to permit my users to transmit their spam with all the headers. okay But now with Outlook 2007 I lost almost all the headers when the email is moved to an IMAP account. moved from imap to imap folder ?, same remote password in one mailbox on server ? if otherwize the user gets mail from pop3 and later move it with imap, then i might say headers will be changed Anyone have found a solution to this great new Outlook feature? dovecot-antispam, and all remote users via imap, it even works with amiga :) dspam add a tag to the body so when reported back as ham or spam, it only need this tag to know original headers and body as learnt in the first place -- xpoint
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
2009/9/1 Benny Pedersen m...@junc.org: On tir 01 sep 2009 16:18:37 CEST, François Rousseau wrote Almost all my user use Outlook :( why is it sad ?, it can do imap aswell as pop3 In the past with Outlook 2003, I was using an IMAP account to permit my users to transmit their spam with all the headers. okay But now with Outlook 2007 I lost almost all the headers when the email is moved to an IMAP account. moved from imap to imap folder ?, same remote password in one mailbox on server ? if otherwize the user gets mail from pop3 and later move it with imap, then i might say headers will be changed Anyone have found a solution to this great new Outlook feature? dovecot-antispam, and all remote users via imap, it even works with amiga :) dspam add a tag to the body so when reported back as ham or spam, it only need this tag to know original headers and body as learnt in the first place -- xpoint Maybe I was not clear but yes my users use pop3 accounts and move problematic email to one common IMAP account. (in fact one common account by group of users) With Thunderbird and Outlook 2003, the headers was there but not with Outlook 2007. It could be an idea to encapsulated the spam message into another email (report_safe) but I could also juste keep trying to explain to some of my user how to forward an email as an attachment. Thanks, François
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
Michael Scheidell wrote: François Rousseau wrote: Sorry I have forget to specify the other Microsoft tricks ;) You will continu to see all the headers in you Outlook client but if you use another email client or if you go check directly on the email server you will not have all the headers (only a part of it). And, exchange 2003, service pack 1 took away the ability for imap to see public folders, didn't it? I pull spam and ham via IMAP from public folders on an Exchange 2003 server with SP2. Works great, includes all headers. Brent Gardner
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
Brent Gardner wrote: And, exchange 2003, service pack 1 took away the ability for imap to see public folders, didn't it? I pull spam and ham via IMAP from public folders on an Exchange 2003 server with SP2. Works great, includes all headers. one of our guys just let me know that imap users on Exchange 2007 can't read public folders, I was mistaken (SP1 broke it) http://iss.leeds.ac.uk/news/article/137/exchange_2007-withdrawal_of_public_folder_access_using_imap_client_software Brent Gardner _ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.spammertrap.com _
Re: Outlook 2007/imap headers
Michael Scheidell wrote: And, exchange 2003, service pack 1 took away the ability for imap to see public folders, didn't it? I pull spam and ham via IMAP from public folders on an Exchange 2003 server with SP2. Works great, includes all headers. one of our guys just let me know that imap users on Exchange 2007 can't read public folders, I was mistaken (SP1 broke it) http://iss.leeds.ac.uk/news/article/137/exchange_2007-withdrawal_of_public_folder_access_using_imap_client_software I've recently been writing an application which transfers messages via IMAP into an Exchange 2007 system. One thing I've noticed is that doing an IMAP APPEND, and then fetching the same message with an IMAP FETCH, retrieves a heavily modified version of the message. It seems to do all sorts of weird things to messages, so it may not be appropriate to pull messages out of Exchange 2007 via IMAP to feed into sa-learn. Some examples: It parses the Date header and rewrites it in it's preferred format. It even changes the timezone! It adds a Date header if one was missing. The From/To/Cc headers are parsed and rewritten in Exchanges preferred format. I came across a message with a Subject line of: Subject: Latest Vacancies For =??Q?PhD=92S?=, when I read that one back after uploading it, the entire subject line is empty. Headers named Message-Id are renamed Message-ID. A new Message-ID is added if one doesn't already exist. Line wrapping in headers is messed with too. There's probably loads of other little things. -- Mike Cardwell - IT Consultant and LAMP developer Cardwell IT Ltd. (UK Reg'd Company #06920226) http://cardwellit.com/
