Re: spamassassin ocassionally skips network-checks

2009-05-25 Thread peter pilsl

- "Jonas Eckerman"  schrieb:

> 
> Are you sure it forgot to do the tests, or is it just that there 
> sometimes are no hits from DNSL tests that should have hit?
> 
> If the latter, this might indicate that your DNS is sometimes
> overloaded 
> or slow for some other reason, and what you are seeing is the results
> of 
> DNS timeouts.
> 
> Can you see if the relevant messages took more than normal time to
> scan?
>

my milter logs the total time it takes to process a mail.  The mails in 
question have actually quite short process-times.  around 2-3 seconds from the 
first HELO to the final CLOSE and in between there is the whole spam-check (and 
some other internal checks). So timeout is not a problem here. 

damn. I really wonder whats going on here. I'll keep on investigating ...

thnx
peter
 
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Re: spamassassin ocassionally skips network-checks

2009-05-23 Thread peter pilsl

- "Matus UHLAR - fantomas"  schrieb:

> 
> Are you sure you did not disable (or, did enable) network checks? Some
> of
> them have to be enabled, some need additional software installed
> (razor,
> pyzor, dcc)...
> 


yes.  I'm sure. As I wrote in my original posting on most of the emails the 
network-checks are performed as intended and configured. Only on a few they are 
not. If I take a mail where no network-checks was applied and feed it manually 
to spamassassin again then the network-checks are performed and the mail is 
detected as spam.

My problem is:

approx 1 out of 100 mails that are checked via Mail::SpamAssassin-Module is not 
checked against the network-tests that I configured

thnx,
peter


Re: spamassassin ocassionally skips network-checks

2009-05-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> - "Matus UHLAR - fantomas"  schrieb:
> > you apre probable one of "early recipients" in such cases - the spam
> > started spreading, IP was not listed in blacklists, checksums weren't in
> > *ZOR or DCC databases. I'm afraid only BAYES and other rules may catch
> > that...

On 23.05.09 12:44, peter pilsl wrote:
> thnx for your answer, but thats not the problem here. There are mails that
> are relayed to my server via MX-backup where another
> spamassassin-installation checks for spam also.

> In this case the mail is spam-checked by spamassassin twice. And the
> mx-backup gives a high spamscore (and performs the network-checks) and my
> spamassassin doesnt.

Are you sure you did not disable (or, did enable) network checks? Some of
them have to be enabled, some need additional software installed (razor,
pyzor, dcc)...

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Re: spamassassin ocassionally skips network-checks

2009-05-23 Thread peter pilsl

- "Matus UHLAR - fantomas"  schrieb:

> 
> you apre probable one of "early recipients" in such cases - the spam
> started
> spreading, IP was not listed in blacklists, checksums weren't in *ZOR
> or DCC
> databases. I'm afraid only BAYES and other rules may catch that...
> 


thnx for your answer, but thats not the problem here. There are mails that are 
relayed to my server via MX-backup where another spamassassin-installation 
checks for spam also.

In this case the mail is spam-checked by spamassassin twice. And the mx-backup 
gives a high spamscore (and performs the network-checks) and my spamassassin 
doesnt.

thats why I started wondering ..

best,
peter



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Re: spamassassin ocassionally skips network-checks

2009-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.05.09 16:59, peter pilsl wrote:
> But occassionally spam comes through where it seems that spamassassin just
> "forgot" to do all the network-checks (spamcop, sorbs, dcc, razor2) and
> therefore the score is low and the mail gets through.
> 
> When I run spamassassin on the same mail later its marked as spam and on
> most of my mail the spamassassin-milter runs these network-checks. But on
> some it simply doesnt and I cant figure out. Didnt find any pattern yet
> and no error in any log.
[...]
> any idea how this could happen? or how can I debug this problem? 

you apre probable one of "early recipients" in such cases - the spam started
spreading, IP was not listed in blacklists, checksums weren't in *ZOR or DCC
databases. I'm afraid only BAYES and other rules may catch that...

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