RE: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-14 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message -
Most common usage is:

$ sa-update

Or, if you want to see what it's doing:

$ sa-update -D

Unless you are adding extra channels or doing something strange with it,
you shouldn't need more than that.

OK, got all those RTFM answers :-) - I get that...

But when was this introduced and what is it for and what is a channel? I
use rulesdejur is this a replacement for that or is it specificly to
update the SA rules so we don't have to update the whole package all the
time. The man does not answer these questions. I'm just trying to
understand what it is all about.

Thanks.

Despite the controversy that this seems to have set off... Could someone -
anyone - please direct me to someplace that I can read up on my
questions... They remain un-answered and the man page simply is a terse
usage explanation. I would like to read up on the principle and purpose.

Thanks.

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RE: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-14 Thread Duane Hill

On Mon, 14 May 2007, Kevin W. Gagel wrote:


- Original Message -

Most common usage is:

   $ sa-update

Or, if you want to see what it's doing:

   $ sa-update -D

Unless you are adding extra channels or doing something strange with it,
you shouldn't need more than that.


OK, got all those RTFM answers :-) - I get that...

But when was this introduced and what is it for and what is a channel? I
use rulesdejur is this a replacement for that or is it specificly to
update the SA rules so we don't have to update the whole package all the
time. The man does not answer these questions. I'm just trying to
understand what it is all about.

Thanks.


Despite the controversy that this seems to have set off... Could someone -
anyone - please direct me to someplace that I can read up on my
questions... They remain un-answered and the man page simply is a terse
usage explanation. I would like to read up on the principle and purpose.


Perhaps this is what you're looking for:

  http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates


RE: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-14 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message -
 Despite the controversy that this seems to have set off... Could someone
 - anyone - please direct me to someplace that I can read up on my
 questions... They remain un-answered and the man page simply is a terse
 usage explanation. I would like to read up on the principle and purpose.

Perhaps this is what you're looking for:

   http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates

Thankyou Duane, That was exactly what I was looking for.

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RE: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-12 Thread Abba Communications



 Pete Russell mumbled through a coffee cup:
 His question may have been pretty basic, born of laziness. But when you
 respond with man sa-update or RTFM, then you end up with a mailing
 list archive full of useless info, lowering its value as a useful
 resource.
 
 Ignore or respond with something useful. (In my opinion)
 

Pete,

Syntax, among other things, is very important. So sending man page
references can be extremely helpful.

Rarely, yet sometimes, some people need the other

 - rh

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SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Aquino

I think I remember reading that SA Rules can be updated from Official Repos ?


Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:20:55PM -0400, Daniel Aquino wrote:
 I think I remember reading that SA Rules can be updated from Official Repos 
 ?

sa-update

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Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message -
sa-update

Usage info is located where?

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Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Dimitri Yioulos
On Friday 11 May 2007 3:04 pm, Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
 - Original Message -

 sa-update

 Usage info is located where?

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Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Duane Hill

On Fri, 11 May 2007, Kevin W. Gagel wrote:


- Original Message -

sa-update


Usage info is located where?


% man sa-update


RE: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Bowie Bailey
Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
  sa-update
 
 Usage info is located where?

Most common usage is:

$ sa-update

Or, if you want to see what it's doing:

$ sa-update -D

Unless you are adding extra channels or doing something strange with it,
you shouldn't need more than that.

-- 
Bowie


RE: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message -
Most common usage is:

$ sa-update

Or, if you want to see what it's doing:

$ sa-update -D

Unless you are adding extra channels or doing something strange with it,
you shouldn't need more than that.

OK, got all those RTFM answers :-) - I get that...

But when was this introduced and what is it for and what is a channel? I
use rulesdejur is this a replacement for that or is it specificly to update
the SA rules so we don't have to update the whole package all the time. The
man does not answer these questions. I'm just trying to understand what it
is all about.

Thanks.

=
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Network Administrator
Information Technology Services
(250) 562-2131 local 448
My Blog:
http://mail.cnc.bc.ca/blogs/gagel

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Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Dimitri Yioulos
On Friday 11 May 2007 5:00 pm, Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
 - Original Message -

 Most common usage is:
 
 $ sa-update
 
 Or, if you want to see what it's doing:
 
 $ sa-update -D
 
 Unless you are adding extra channels or doing something strange with it,
 you shouldn't need more than that.

 OK, got all those RTFM answers :-) - I get that...

 But when was this introduced and what is it for and what is a channel? I
 use rulesdejur is this a replacement for that or is it specificly to update
 the SA rules so we don't have to update the whole package all the time. The
 man does not answer these questions. I'm just trying to understand what it
 is all about.

 Thanks.

 =
 Kevin W. Gagel
 Network Administrator
 Information Technology Services
 (250) 562-2131 local 448
 My Blog:
 http://mail.cnc.bc.ca/blogs/gagel

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Kevin,

sa-update is, indeed, a means to update the SA rules so we don't have to 
update the whole package all the time, or something like that.  RulesDuJour 
should probably be considered a way to supplement SA's rules with those built 
by the SARE ninjas and others.  The sa-update channel is the remote location 
of the updated SA rules that sa-update fetches.

Clear?

Dimitri

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Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Kevin W. Gagel wrote:

- Original Message -

Most common usage is:

   $ sa-update

Or, if you want to see what it's doing:

   $ sa-update -D

Unless you are adding extra channels or doing something strange with it,
you shouldn't need more than that.


OK, got all those RTFM answers :-) - I get that...

But when was this introduced and what is it for and what is a channel? I
use rulesdejur is this a replacement for that or is it specificly to update
the SA rules so we don't have to update the whole package all the time. The
man does not answer these questions. I'm just trying to understand what it
is all about.


The first thing listed in the FAQ [1], linked to from the SpamAssassin 
home page [2] is RunningSaUpdate [3].  This page explains that SA 
update is functional for SA 3.1.1+ and tells you briefly what you need 
to do to use sa-update.


For more detail, the RunningSaUpdate wiki page links to RuleUpdates 
[4] tells you everything you ever wanted to know about sa-update (like 
don't screw around with --updatedir), or links to more info about 
specific topics like what SARE channels [5] are available.  The 
SareChannels wiki page even included a link to my quick and concise 
how-to [6] on updating SARE rules via the SARE channels I provide.


Normally I recommend the individual channels I provide over the bundle 
that Openprotect provides [7] for a number of reasons [8], but it looks 
like they've at least fixed the issue of not supporting all currently 
released versions of SpamAssassin (at least in DNS), so their channel 
may be a viable option for you.  The choice, of course, is yours.



Daryl


[1] http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[2] http://spamassassin.apache.org/
[3] http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RunningSaUpdate
[4] http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates
[5] http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SareChannels
[6] http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt
[7] http://saupdates.openprotect.com/
[8] 
http://daryl.dostech.ca/blog/2007/02/15/apache-spamassassin-318-released/


Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Pete Russell
His question may have been pretty basic, born of laziness. But when you 
respond with man sa-update or RTFM, then you end up with a mailing 
list archive full of useless info, lowering its value as a useful resource.


Ignore or respond with something useful. (In my opinion)

Duane Hill wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007, Kevin W. Gagel wrote:


- Original Message -

sa-update


Usage info is located where?


% man sa-update



Re: SA Rules Auto-Update ?

2007-05-11 Thread Duane Hill

On Sat, 12 May 2007, Pete Russell wrote:

His question may have been pretty basic, born of laziness. But when you 
respond with man sa-update or RTFM, then you end up with a mailing list 
archive full of useless info, lowering its value as a useful resource.


Ignore or respond with something useful. (In my opinion)


I do not mean this in a negative way. Thanks for the criticism. It is 
appreciated!