Re: missing tag

2007-06-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Daryl writes:
 Make sure your milter is providing a return path header field so that SA
 gets the correct envelope-from address. I believe old versions of
 amavisd-new don't do this.  If the milter fails to do this SA will end
 up using the From: header field value and, yeah, you'll get SPF fail.

amavisd-new inserts envelope sender address into mail header
since amavisd-new-20030616 (i.e. June 2003).

Initially it was inserted as X-Envelope-From, nowadays
the Return-Path header field is used for the purpose.

To make it explicit to SA, the following lines
are recommended in local.cf:
  always_trust_envelope_sender 1
  envelope_sender_header  Return-Path
(although with some luck SA may guess correctly by itself)

The change from X-Envelope-From into Return-Path
came with a amavisd-new-2.0 (=20040701) release
(actually already in a pre-release amavisd-new-20040301).

The last version of amavisd that didn't insert envelope sender
information into a mail header in any form was 20030314-p2.

  Mark


Re: missing tag

2007-06-15 Thread Jerry Durand


On Jun 15, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Mark Martinec wrote:


  always_trust_envelope_sender 1
  envelope_sender_header  Return-Path


Done, thanks.



missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Jerry Durand
This came in with no tag or subject modification.  Any idea what's 
up?  Amavis log follows the message.



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Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Martinec
Jerry,

 This came in with no tag or subject modification.  Any idea what's
 up?  Amavis log follows the message.

 (09479-05) Passed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 quarantine HhrEwzHAq2Ia, Message-ID: ..., Hits: 10.769

Most likely reason: recipient domain (durandinterstellar.com)
is not considered local.  The X-Spam-* headers are inserted only
for incoming and all-internal mail, i.e. when recipient is local.
Check your @local_domains_maps setting.

  Mark


Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Jerry Durand
My message came back tagged as spam, but I have this list 
whitelisted_from_spf.  ???


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Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Jerry Durand wrote:
My message came back tagged as spam, but I have this list 
whitelisted_from_spf.  ???


It hit SPF_FAIL, thus no SPF based whitelist hit.  You may want to run 
the message through  spamassassin -Dspf  to find out why.


Daryl



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Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Jerry Durand

On Jun 14, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Mark Martinec wrote:

Most likely reason: recipient domain (durandinterstellar.com)
is not considered local.  The X-Spam-* headers are inserted only
for incoming and all-internal mail, i.e. when recipient is local.
Check your @local_domains_maps setting.

  Mark



Thanks, that was wrong.  Fixing it now.



Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 17:09 -0700, Jerry Durand wrote:
 This came in with no tag or subject modification.  Any idea what's 
 up?  Amavis log follows the message.

My guess is that you're using spamc and for some reason it couldn't
connect with spamd.  If this is the case, spamc will return the email
unmodified, as it should.  I've only been using SpamAssassin for a
couple of days and have seen one such instance already.

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Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Jerry Durand


On Jun 14, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:


Jerry Durand wrote:
My message came back tagged as spam, but I have this list  
whitelisted_from_spf.  ???


It hit SPF_FAIL, thus no SPF based whitelist hit.  You may want to  
run the message through  spamassassin -Dspf  to find out why.


Daryl


Oh, right, it's this list format.  The message said it was from me,  
but it was sent by apache.org.  Of course SPF failed.


So, how do you set up SA to allow these lists that act as an  
unauthorized relay?





Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Jerry Durand wrote:


On Jun 14, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:


Jerry Durand wrote:
My message came back tagged as spam, but I have this list 
whitelisted_from_spf.  ???


It hit SPF_FAIL, thus no SPF based whitelist hit.  You may want to run 
the message through  spamassassin -Dspf  to find out why.


Daryl


Oh, right, it's this list format.  The message said it was from me, but 
it was sent by apache.org.  Of course SPF failed.


Actually the return path is (similar to):

Return-Path: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


...so SPF shouldn't fail.


So, how do you set up SA to allow these lists that act as an 
unauthorized relay?


Make sure your milter is providing a return path header field so that SA 
gets the correct envelope-from address. I believe old versions of 
amavisd-new don't do this.  If the milter fails to do this SA will end 
up using the From: header field value and, yeah, you'll get SPF fail.



Daryl




Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Jerry Durand

On Jun 14, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:



Actually the return path is (similar to):

Return-Path: users-return-59747- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


...so SPF shouldn't fail.


So, how do you set up SA to allow these lists that act as an  
unauthorized relay?


Make sure your milter is providing a return path header field so  
that SA gets the correct envelope-from address. I believe old  
versions of amavisd-new don't do this.  If the milter fails to do  
this SA will end up using the From: header field value and, yeah,  
you'll get SPF fail.


Maybe it was a glitch while the local_domains were wrong.  The  
headers below have the return-path and it seems to be working now.  I  
hate intermittent things.




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Re: missing tag

2007-06-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Jerry Durand wrote:

 On Jun 14, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:

 Jerry Durand wrote:
 My message came back tagged as spam, but I have this list
 whitelisted_from_spf.  ???

 It hit SPF_FAIL, thus no SPF based whitelist hit.  You may want to
 run the message through  spamassassin -Dspf  to find out why.

 Daryl

 Oh, right, it's this list format.  The message said it was from me,
 but it was sent by apache.org.  Of course SPF failed.
No, it wasn't from you, at least not at the envelope level. The envelope
MAIL FROM would have been apache.org based, like all good mailing lists
do so they can detect delivery failures.

Otherwise you'd get bounces for every message the list tried to deliver
that failed. ouch!

My guess is SA isn't understanding your MTA's envelope sender markings,
but from what I recall, amavis generally handles this quite well itself.



 So, how do you set up SA to allow these lists that act as an
 unauthorized relay?
You don't, and you don't need to.