sa-update and VirusScannerTypeUpdates

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Pettersson

Hi.

I keep seeing suggestions to use sa-update quite often on this list, but 
I thought it was no use doing so between releases according to this page:

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VirusScannerTypeUpdates
with these exact words in the end:

"Daily and/or weekly updates aren't practical, because it takes weeks to 
evolve a scoreset for a release."


So, how often are there new rules available via sa-update?


Regards,
Andreas



RE: sa-update and VirusScannerTypeUpdates

2006-08-21 Thread Randal, Phil
sa-update last updated the rules here on August 14th.

Theo on this list a short while back recommended daily checking.

Cheers,

Phil

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> -Original Message-
> From: Andreas Pettersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 21 August 2006 16:46
> To: SpamAssassin
> Subject: sa-update and VirusScannerTypeUpdates
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I keep seeing suggestions to use sa-update quite often on 
> this list, but 
> I thought it was no use doing so between releases according 
> to this page:
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VirusScannerTypeUpdates
> with these exact words in the end:
> 
> "Daily and/or weekly updates aren't practical, because it 
> takes weeks to 
> evolve a scoreset for a release."
> 
> So, how often are there new rules available via sa-update?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Andreas
> 


Re: sa-update and VirusScannerTypeUpdates

2006-08-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 05:46:19PM +0200, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
> I keep seeing suggestions to use sa-update quite often on this list, but 
> I thought it was no use doing so between releases according to this page:
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VirusScannerTypeUpdates
> with these exact words in the end:
> 
> "Daily and/or weekly updates aren't practical, because it takes weeks to 
> evolve a scoreset for a release."
> 
> So, how often are there new rules available via sa-update?

This is unfortunately not a completely easy answer.  Here's my short version:

- I've never seen that wiki page before, and it's out of date wrt what we're
  doing now.  The line you quoted also says "evolve a scoreset" which is GA
  terminology, so I think the page is probably further outdated than the date
  on the page (we haven't used the GA in a long time).

- sa-update is a generic tool used to download configs/rules/scores/etc, so
  "how often are ..." is really dependent on what channel you're talking
  about.

- If you're talking about the default updates.spamassassin.org channel, and
  you're talking about 3.1, new updates are made available ... well, generally
  anytime we (usually I) get around to making a new update available.  There
  is no specific schedule, and new updates can be created for various reasons,
  not just to make new rules available.

  Generally speaking, updates could occur ever 15m w/ the current config, but
  realistically it may be once a week or so.  If setting up a cronjob to do
  updates, I'd probably go daily for now.

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Re: sa-update and VirusScannerTypeUpdates

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Pettersson

Theo Van Dinter wrote:


On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 05:46:19PM +0200, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
 

I keep seeing suggestions to use sa-update quite often on this list, but 
I thought it was no use doing so between releases according to this page:

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VirusScannerTypeUpdates
with these exact words in the end:

"Daily and/or weekly updates aren't practical, because it takes weeks to 
evolve a scoreset for a release."


So, how often are there new rules available via sa-update?
   


...

 Generally speaking, updates could occur ever 15m w/ the current config, but
 realistically it may be once a week or so.  If setting up a cronjob to do
 updates, I'd probably go daily for now.



Thank you very much. Now I have a better idea of what to expect from 
sa-update.


Regards,
Andreas



Re: sa-update and VirusScannerTypeUpdates

2006-08-21 Thread Justin Mason

Andreas Pettersson writes:
>I keep seeing suggestions to use sa-update quite often on this list, but 
>I thought it was no use doing so between releases according to this page:
>http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VirusScannerTypeUpdates
>with these exact words in the end:
>
>"Daily and/or weekly updates aren't practical, because it takes weeks to 
>evolve a scoreset for a release."
>
>So, how often are there new rules available via sa-update?

well, the scoreset isn't yet being evolved for each sa-update release;
instead the scores are statically assigned by hand.  

Other than that, though, we should probably update that page to note that
we are doing part of that anyway ;)

--j.