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Keeping the original url after submit

2006-07-17 Thread Firas A.
Hello,
 
I have a page which is requested through a DirectLink. This page contains a
form listener:
public void onSubmit().
 
The problem: When the form is successfully submitted, the URL for the newly
reloaded page lacks the service/listener parameters that were present in the
originall request to this page.
 
Is there a way to tell Tapestry to use the 'original' url upon a successfull
submit?
 
Thanks for your time!
 
/Firas
 


Dynamically adding pages to T3 application

2006-07-17 Thread Detlef Schulze
Hi everybody,

we have a rather large application that runs with homegrown framework
and that we will migrate to tapestry. Since spindle is not available for
tap 4 yet it has been decided to start with t3 and later move to t4.

The problem is that this application is based on a modular design and
modules can be added and removed in runtime. Modules contain business
logic and pages.

So the question is if it is possible somehow to add/remove tapestry
pages in runtime ... I would be very grateful for hints or pointers to
possible solutions how to accomplish this.

Cheers,
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RE: Keeping the original url after submit

2006-07-17 Thread Firas A.
I got it!
 
But the solution is rather low-level.
 
First, I had to modify my form listener to return an ILink:
public ILink onSubmit()
 
Then, I had to create the ILink using LinkFactoryImpl:
 
@InjectObject(service:tapestry.globals.WebRequest)
public abstract WebRequest getWebRequest();
 
@InjectObject(engine-service:direct)
public abstract IEngineService getService();
 
// Somewhere in the page class:
MapString, Object params = new HashMapString, Object(1);
params.put(ServiceConstants.PARAMETER,
getRequestCycle().getListenerParameters());
LinkFactoryImpl linkFactory = new LinkFactoryImpl();
DataSqueezerImpl dataSqueezer = new DataSqueezerImpl();
dataSqueezer.register(new StringAdaptor());
linkFactory.setDataSqueezer(dataSqueezer);
linkFactory.setContributions(Collections.EMPTY_LIST);
linkFactory.setContextPath(getWebRequest().getContextPath());
ErrorLog errorLog = new ErrorLogImpl(new DefaultErrorHandler(), LogFactory
.getLog(MyPageClass.class));
linkFactory.setErrorLog(errorLog);
linkFactory.setRequest(getWebRequest());
linkFactory.setRequestCycle(getRequestCycle());
linkFactory.setServletPath(getWebRequest().getActivationPath());
linkFactory.initializeService();
ILink iLink = linkFactory.constructLink(getService(), false, params, false);
 
 
That was a lot of code don't you think?
 
But here's a question: how do you make sure this 'original' ILink is not
lost/overridden betwing requests, especially if your page uses validators? I
found a solution for that too. If you need help with this, drop me a line
and I'll gladly help.
 
Regards!


Re: Keeping the original url after submit

2006-07-17 Thread Blackwings

I think there is another solution more simple and handle by Tapestry. I
think you can declare a page version as accessible directly from outside
using a static URL and Tapestry serialize the page as a static page.

Check this page :
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/tapestry/ComponentReference/ExternalLink.html

2006/7/17, Firas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I got it!

But the solution is rather low-level.

First, I had to modify my form listener to return an ILink:
public ILink onSubmit()

Then, I had to create the ILink using LinkFactoryImpl:

@InjectObject(service:tapestry.globals.WebRequest)
public abstract WebRequest getWebRequest();

@InjectObject(engine-service:direct)
public abstract IEngineService getService();

// Somewhere in the page class:
MapString, Object params = new HashMapString, Object(1);
params.put(ServiceConstants.PARAMETER,
getRequestCycle().getListenerParameters());
LinkFactoryImpl linkFactory = new LinkFactoryImpl();
DataSqueezerImpl dataSqueezer = new DataSqueezerImpl();
dataSqueezer.register(new StringAdaptor());
linkFactory.setDataSqueezer(dataSqueezer);
linkFactory.setContributions(Collections.EMPTY_LIST);
linkFactory.setContextPath(getWebRequest().getContextPath());
ErrorLog errorLog = new ErrorLogImpl(new DefaultErrorHandler(), LogFactory
.getLog(MyPageClass.class));
linkFactory.setErrorLog(errorLog);
linkFactory.setRequest(getWebRequest());
linkFactory.setRequestCycle(getRequestCycle());
linkFactory.setServletPath(getWebRequest().getActivationPath());
linkFactory.initializeService();
ILink iLink = linkFactory.constructLink(getService(), false, params,
false);


That was a lot of code don't you think?

But here's a question: how do you make sure this 'original' ILink is not
lost/overridden betwing requests, especially if your page uses validators?
I
found a solution for that too. If you need help with this, drop me a line
and I'll gladly help.

Regards!




Re: Navigational Menu

2006-07-17 Thread Jesse Kuhnert

Generating links usually involves using the engine service for the link type
you want created. If it is the PageService then I would inject that (
tapestry.services.Page) and call getLink() on it.

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I have been trying to integrate the krysalis menu for the last few
days. however its proving to be a real pain. customisation is so
difficult and i dont know how to link to pages in other frames. if
were using html i would specify the frame name, but how should i do
that here.

so i have decided to go with a plain straightforward javascript menu.
now the question is how can i link to my tapestry pages using normal
links. has anybody experienced the same issues and is there another
fix. navigation through a complex site is pretty important, so without
a navigational menu the site is un-usable.

any thoughts guys.

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Generic application wide formats

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
Hi all

I'm a little new to Tapestry so I may be missing something, happy for anybody 
to point me in 
the right direction.  I'm currently running Tapestry 4.0.2

I want to standardise my date format for the entire application to dd/MM/.  
I decided that 
the best place to do this while allowing for internationalisation is to add it 
to my app.properties 
file.  I added a few other formats while I was there, so I had something like 
the following:

# Generic formats
format_date=dd/MM/
format_time=HH:mm
format_pct0=##0%
format_pct2=##0.##%
format_currency=$#,###,##0.00

Then I found that in order to display a date in this format I was writing 7 
lines of java code for 
each page where a date was displayed (most of them)...along with 1 more line in 
the .page 
file for each date to be displayed.

When I wanted to edit a date again using this format I had 4 lines per page and 
1 line per 
field.

This only provides the most basic of editing (I haven't allowed for any error 
processing yet) 
and while the number of lines is not large it did seem to me that there were 
different methods 
being employed to format the date for display and others for edit and 
validation.

As I began, I may have missed something but it does seem a little messy at the 
moment.  
Does anybody have a better method of achieving this generic formating?

Wouldn't it be nice ifI could specify formats in my message catalogue and 
then simply 
apply them to my components with a single line of code?  eg

a) displaying a date value:

component id=dateField type=Insert
binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/
binding name=format value=message:format_date/
/component

b) editing a date value:

component id=dateField type=DatePicker
binding name=displayName value=message:mydate_label/
binding name=value   value=myclass.mydate/
binding name=format value=message:format_date/
binding name=validators  value=validators:required/
/component


Is this possible?


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Re: Navigational Menu

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
Dump Krysalis and use JS Cook Menu.  It is much easier to customise and also 
allows better 
integration with your java code for generation.  

I tried Kysalis initially but then I wanted to show different options for 
different users - it was 
very difficult to customise.  I then tried JS Cook Menu and have never looked 
back.  So much 
easier to use.

Cheers
mc


On 17 Jul 2006 at 15:15, Peter Dawn wrote:

 I have been trying to integrate the krysalis menu for the last few
 days. however its proving to be a real pain. customisation is so
 difficult and i dont know how to link to pages in other frames. if
 were using html i would specify the frame name, but how should i do
 that here.
 
 so i have decided to go with a plain straightforward javascript menu.
 now the question is how can i link to my tapestry pages using normal
 links. has anybody experienced the same issues and is there another
 fix. navigation through a complex site is pretty important, so without
 a navigational menu the site is un-usable.
 
 any thoughts guys.
 
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Re: Template header DOCTYPE

2006-07-17 Thread Blackwings

Ok for the select ;-)
But what about the tr in a table?

table
   tr
   tdHeader 1/td
   tdHeader 2/td
   tdHeader 3/td
 /tr
 span jwcid=@My2TrJwc
 tr
   tdsomething/td
   tdto put/td
   tdsomewhere here/td
 /tr
 tr
   tdData info 1/td
   tdData info M/td
   tdData info 3X/td
 /tr
 /span
 tr
   td colspan=3Footer/td
 /tr
/table


2006/7/17, Murray Collingwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


For a select control use SelectionModel to pass the options to your
component.  Then you
don't need any @For loop in your html.

In your table component you could code your Tapestry on the tr
statement.  eg
table...
tr jwcid=xx

Cheers
mc


On 17 Jul 2006 at 11:13, Blackwings wrote:

 Hi,

 I noticed something interresting about DOCTYPE. In fact, if a designer
give
 me a XHTML1.0 transitional compliant html template, when I mark the tag
and
 add some tags span the html is not anymore compliant :

 select jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] id=searchCriteria.requester name=
 searchCriteria.requester size=1 tabindex=6 class=comboBox9pt
span jwcid=@Foreach source=ognl:requesters value=ognl:
 searchCriteria.requester
   option value=1 jwcid=@Option label=ognl:
requesters.requesterCode
 elem1/option
   option value=2 jwcid=$remove$elem2/option
   option value=3 jwcid=$remove$elem3/option
   option value=4 jwcid=$remove$elem4/option
 /span
   /select

 The span cannot be place after a select and this is warned.

 I have the same problem when I want to mark a bloc of tr, not all, in
a
 table. I have to put a span tag between to a /tr and a tr that
is
 not permit by the DOCTYPE definition, normally.

 Is there another DOCTYPE that manage Tapestry template or do we have
to
 let the warn like that?




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Re: Template header DOCTYPE

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
If you are writing data to a table use contrib:Table and never look back.  
Another absolutely 
fabulous component that I now use on every single table I ever create.

Cheers
mc

On 17 Jul 2006 at 15:47, Blackwings wrote:

 Ok for the select ;-)
 But what about the tr in a table?
 
 table
 tr
 tdHeader 1/td
 tdHeader 2/td
 tdHeader 3/td
   /tr
   span jwcid=@My2TrJwc
   tr
 tdsomething/td
 tdto put/td
 tdsomewhere here/td
   /tr
   tr
 tdData info 1/td
 tdData info M/td
 tdData info 3X/td
   /tr
   /span
   tr
 td colspan=3Footer/td
   /tr
 /table
 
 
 2006/7/17, Murray Collingwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  For a select control use SelectionModel to pass the options to your
  component.  Then you
  don't need any @For loop in your html.
 
  In your table component you could code your Tapestry on the tr
  statement.  eg
  table...
  tr jwcid=xx
 
  Cheers
  mc
 
 
  On 17 Jul 2006 at 11:13, Blackwings wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   I noticed something interresting about DOCTYPE. In fact, if a designer
  give
   me a XHTML1.0 transitional compliant html template, when I mark the tag
  and
   add some tags span the html is not anymore compliant :
  
   select jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] id=searchCriteria.requester name=
   searchCriteria.requester size=1 tabindex=6 class=comboBox9pt
  span jwcid=@Foreach source=ognl:requesters value=ognl:
   searchCriteria.requester
 option value=1 jwcid=@Option label=ognl:
  requesters.requesterCode
   elem1/option
 option value=2 jwcid=$remove$elem2/option
 option value=3 jwcid=$remove$elem3/option
 option value=4 jwcid=$remove$elem4/option
   /span
 /select
  
   The span cannot be place after a select and this is warned.
  
   I have the same problem when I want to mark a bloc of tr, not all, in
  a
   table. I have to put a span tag between to a /tr and a tr that
  is
   not permit by the DOCTYPE definition, normally.
  
   Is there another DOCTYPE that manage Tapestry template or do we have
  to
   let the warn like that?
  
 
 
 
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RE: Template header DOCTYPE

2006-07-17 Thread Kristian Marinkovic
hi,

that's true... but it's only the template... it is more important how
your generated page looks like. the spans disappear in the
generated page.

g,
kries


   
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Hi,

I noticed something interresting about DOCTYPE. In fact, if a designer give
me a XHTML1.0 transitional compliant html template, when I mark the tag and
add some tags span the html is not anymore compliant :

select jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] id=searchCriteria.requester name=
searchCriteria.requester size=1 tabindex=6 class=comboBox9pt
   span jwcid=@Foreach source=ognl:requesters value=ognl:
searchCriteria.requester
  option value=1 jwcid=@Option
label=ognl:requesters.requesterCode
elem1/option
  option value=2 jwcid=$remove$elem2/option
  option value=3 jwcid=$remove$elem3/option
  option value=4 jwcid=$remove$elem4/option
/span
  /select

The span cannot be place after a select and this is warned.

I have the same problem when I want to mark a bloc of tr, not all, in a
table. I have to put a span tag between to a /tr and a tr that is
not permit by the DOCTYPE definition, normally.

Is there another DOCTYPE that manage Tapestry template or do we have to
let the warn like that?



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AccessControlException on generated classes due to missing class protection domain

2006-07-17 Thread Renat Zubairov

Hello All,

It seems that Tapestry (or Hivemind) generates invalid classes that
are not associated with any ProtectionDomain, there was already a but
like that

http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28202

And I presume that it was fixed, however I have similar problems right
now with secured WebSphere:

How can I fix this problem? What should I do with that?

[7/15/06 15:22:41:049 CEST] 6642251f SecurityManag W SECJ0314W:
Current Java 2 Security policy reported a potential violation of Java
2 Security Permission.
Please refer to Problem Determination Guide for further information.

Permission:

 
/opt/WebSphere/AppServer/installedApps/servernameNetwork/sjrthr.ear/sjrtpg.war/WEB-INF/lib/tapestry-4.1.jar
: access denied (java.io.FilePermission /opt/We
bSphere/AppServer/installedApps/servernameNetwork/sjrthr.ear/sjrtpg.war/WEB-INF/lib/tapestry-4.1.jar
read)


Code:

$ApplicationInitializer_10c725a4dba  in  {null code URL}



Stack Trace:

java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.io.FilePermission
/opt/WebSphere/AppServer/installedApps/servernameNetwork/sjrthr.ear/sjrtpg.war/WEB-IN
F/lib/tapestry-4.1.jar read)
   at 
java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java(Compiled
Code))
   at 
java.security.AccessController.checkPermission(AccessController.java(Compiled
Code))
   at 
java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java(Compiled
Code))
   at 
com.ibm.ws.security.core.SecurityManager.checkPermission(SecurityManager.java(Compiled
Code))
   at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkRead(SecurityManager.java(Compiled
Code))
   at java.util.zip.ZipFile.init(ZipFile.java(Compiled Code))
   at java.util.zip.ZipFile.init(ZipFile.java(Inlined Compiled Code))
   at 
com.ibm.ws.classloader.Handler$ClassLoaderURLConnection.getInputStream(Handler.java(Compiled
Code))
   at java.net.URL.openStream(URL.java(Inlined Compiled Code))
   at 
com.ibm.ws.classloader.SinglePathClassProvider.getResourceAsStream(SinglePathClassProvider.java(Inlined
Compiled Code))
   at 
com.ibm.ws.classloader.CompoundClassLoader.localGetResourceAsStream(CompoundClassLoader.java(Compiled
Code))
   at 
com.ibm.ws.classloader.CompoundClassLoader.getResourceAsStream(CompoundClassLoader.java(Compiled
Code))
   at javassist.LoaderClassPath.openClassfile(LoaderClassPath.java:70)
   at javassist.ClassPoolTail.openClassfile(ClassPoolTail.java:283)
   at javassist.ClassPool.openClassfile(ClassPool.java(Inlined
Compiled Code))
   at javassist.CtClassType.getClassFile2(CtClassType.java(Compiled Code))
   at javassist.CtClassType.subtypeOf(CtClassType.java:267)
   at 
javassist.compiler.MemberResolver.compareSignature(MemberResolver.java:203)
   at javassist.compiler.MemberResolver.lookupMethod(MemberResolver.java:97)
   at javassist.compiler.TypeChecker.atMethodCallCore(TypeChecker.java:637)
   at javassist.compiler.TypeChecker.atCallExpr(TypeChecker.java:614)
   at 
javassist.compiler.JvstTypeChecker.atCallExpr(JvstTypeChecker.java:156)
   at javassist.compiler.ast.CallExpr.accept(CallExpr.java:45)
   at javassist.compiler.CodeGen.doTypeCheck(CodeGen.java:235)
   at javassist.compiler.CodeGen.atStmnt(CodeGen.java:323)
   at javassist.compiler.ast.Stmnt.accept(Stmnt.java:49)
   at javassist.compiler.CodeGen.atIfStmnt(CodeGen.java:384)
   at javassist.compiler.CodeGen.atStmnt(CodeGen.java:348)
   at javassist.compiler.ast.Stmnt.accept(Stmnt.java:49)
   at javassist.compiler.CodeGen.atStmnt(CodeGen.java:344)
   at javassist.compiler.ast.Stmnt.accept(Stmnt.java:49)
   at javassist.compiler.CodeGen.atMethodBody(CodeGen.java:285)
   at javassist.compiler.Javac.compileBody(Javac.java:208)
   at javassist.CtBehavior.setBody(CtBehavior.java:188)
   at javassist.CtBehavior.setBody(CtBehavior.java:163)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.service.impl.ClassFabImpl.addMethod(ClassFabImpl.java:288)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.service.impl.LoggingInterceptorFactory.addServiceMethodImplementation(LoggingInterceptorFactory.java:120)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.service.impl.LoggingInterceptorFactory.addServiceMethods(LoggingInterceptorFactory.java:159)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.service.impl.LoggingInterceptorFactory.constructInterceptorClass(LoggingInterceptorFactory.java:214)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.service.impl.LoggingInterceptorFactory.createInterceptor(LoggingInterceptorFactory.java:251)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.impl.ServiceInterceptorContributionImpl.createInterceptor(ServiceInterceptorContributionImpl.java:95)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.impl.InterceptorStackImpl.process(InterceptorStackImpl.java:116)
   at 
org.apache.hivemind.impl.servicemodel.AbstractServiceModelImpl.addInterceptors(AbstractServiceModelImpl.java:85)
   at 

A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Rui Pacheco

Hi all

This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments, ie,
components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just realised
my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db server
might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its healthy to
use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?

How would you deal with this issue?
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Cumprimentos,
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RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread James Carman
All code within one request can easily just use one connection.  That's what
we do with Tapernate.

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To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

Hi all

This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments, ie,
components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just realised
my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db server
might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its healthy to
use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?

How would you deal with this issue?
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RE: Re: Generic application wide formats

2006-07-17 Thread Kristian Marinkovic
this could help:
http://www.nabble.com/Dynamic-translators-tf1229928.html#a3255867

define your formatter as a bean and define the pattern using
message:date_pattern

greetings,
kris


   
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It is not very pretty. You could try the following.

component id=dateField type=Insert
 binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/

  binding name=format
   ognl:new
java.text.SimpleDateFormat(getMessages().getMessage('format_date'))
/binding

 /component

Shing
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wrote:

 Hi all

 I'm a little new to Tapestry so I may be missing
 something, happy for anybody to point me in
 the right direction.  I'm currently running Tapestry
 4.0.2

 I want to standardise my date format for the entire
 application to dd/MM/.  I decided that
 the best place to do this while allowing for
 internationalisation is to add it to my
 app.properties
 file.  I added a few other formats while I was
 there, so I had something like the following:

 # Generic formats
 format_date=dd/MM/
 format_time=HH:mm
 format_pct0=##0%
 format_pct2=##0.##%
 format_currency=$#,###,##0.00

 Then I found that in order to display a date in this
 format I was writing 7 lines of java code for
 each page where a date was displayed (most of
 them)...along with 1 more line in the .page
 file for each date to be displayed.

 When I wanted to edit a date again using this format
 I had 4 lines per page and 1 line per
 field.

 This only provides the most basic of editing (I
 haven't allowed for any error processing yet)
 and while the number of lines is not large it did
 seem to me that there were different methods
 being employed to format the date for display and
 others for edit and validation.

 As I began, I may have missed something but it does
 seem a little messy at the moment.
 Does anybody have a better method of achieving this
 generic formating?

 Wouldn't it be nice ifI could specify formats in
 my message catalogue and then simply
 apply them to my components with a single line of
 code?  eg

 a) displaying a date value:

component id=dateField type=Insert
binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/
 binding name=format
 value=message:format_date/
/component

 b) editing a date value:

 component id=dateField type=DatePicker
 binding name=displayName
 value=message:mydate_label/
 binding name=value
 value=myclass.mydate/
 binding name=format
 value=message:format_date/
 binding name=validators
 value=validators:required/
 /component


 Is this possible?


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Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Rui Pacheco

Hmmm. I am not using Hibernate, the learning curve is too steep for this
project.

Can you sugest a way to solve this with handwritten code?

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


All code within one request can easily just use one connection.  That's
what
we do with Tapernate.

-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

Hi all

This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments, ie,
components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
realised
my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db server
might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its healthy
to
use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?

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Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Rui Pacheco

Many thanks!

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Use a threadlocal variable to hold the connection for the current request.
Set the value from your pool using a WebRequestServicerFilter and make
sure
you clean it up at the end of the request.

-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:32 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

Hmmm. I am not using Hibernate, the learning curve is too steep for this
project.

Can you sugest a way to solve this with handwritten code?

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All code within one request can easily just use one connection.  That's
 what
 we do with Tapernate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
 To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
 Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 Hi all

 This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
 before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

 I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments,
ie,
 components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
 realised
 my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
 connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db server
 might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

 I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its healthy
 to
 use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?

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Re: Navigational Menu

2006-07-17 Thread Peter Svensson

+1 For JS Cook

Cheers,
PS

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Dump Krysalis and use JS Cook Menu.  It is much easier to customise and
also allows better
integration with your java code for generation.

I tried Kysalis initially but then I wanted to show different options for
different users - it was
very difficult to customise.  I then tried JS Cook Menu and have never
looked back.  So much
easier to use.

Cheers
mc


On 17 Jul 2006 at 15:15, Peter Dawn wrote:

 I have been trying to integrate the krysalis menu for the last few
 days. however its proving to be a real pain. customisation is so
 difficult and i dont know how to link to pages in other frames. if
 were using html i would specify the frame name, but how should i do
 that here.

 so i have decided to go with a plain straightforward javascript menu.
 now the question is how can i link to my tapestry pages using normal
 links. has anybody experienced the same issues and is there another
 fix. navigation through a complex site is pretty important, so without
 a navigational menu the site is un-usable.

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RE: Components inside component

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Stang
Our technique is for the Web Designer to create a sample of the screen.  
Sometimes we don't have time to wait so developers design the screen, but we 
prefer the former.  Once the screen is designed, there may be custom components 
that developers create.  For the most part, we don't have a lot of custom 
reusable components (about 23).  We have about 128 pages.  Ours is a wizard 
based application, which is why we have a lot of pages.

What we have found is that the developer adds the necessary tapestry foo to 
the mix and Web Designers continue to revise the HTML.  We even have our 
document people making changes.  Everyone understands the pieces not to 
monkey with and we all get along nicely.  As a matter of fact, I don't remember 
our Web Designer messing up any of our components.  Usually, it is the other 
way around, when we change the logic, we sometimes mix up the HTML.  CSS has 
helped seperate out lf from layout.

I have had ZERO luck with doing this with JSP's.  It was pretty much a one way 
trip!  With Tapestry, everyone gets along.

If you have a component that requires a developer to insert and configure, then 
we usually have the Web Designer do a mock-up.

To give you an idea how well this works, right before one of our releases, our 
CEO and the Web Designer sat down and re-worked the site.  Afterwards, our 
Customer Support guy said how much it improved the site and usage.  Total 
developer input - ZERO!


Tapestry is starting to cause problems with the company.  We find that 
Marketing has to be ready for a release when we say we are going to be.  And we 
are re-arranging the GUI so often that QA had to give up it's automated tests.  
And our Doc people are having fits trying to keep the documentation in-sync 
with the GUI.  Your milages may vary.

regards,

Mark



-Original Message-
From: Christian Mittendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun 7/16/2006 3:16 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Components inside component
 
Am 16.07.2006 um 10:28 schrieb Blackwings:

 Thanks, but do I have to create a HTML template for both CustomTr and
 CustomTd separetely?

Yes and No, at least: each component may have a html template (matched
by its name). You can copy your template to each html file and put  
different
tapestry tags into each, but that is no solution for maintainance.

 In fact, the web designer, who is not a java developper, should  
 have to
 create herself the templates, shouldn't she?

That depends upon how your office is organized. In my case there is a  
design
department, a content management system (cms) and the java  
developers. The
developers receive the html templates from the designers. The developers
slice these designs into components, which are then moved over to
the cms. The cms allows the retrieval of these slices as well as the  
preview of the
the whole page and the designer or the product manager can preview their
page and do little changes to the html in the cms.

 If yes, each time she will want to change a page, she will have to  
 modify
 also the component template, won't she?
 What is the normal procedure between the web-designer and the java
 developper regarding component?

I don't think that there is a standard procedure for this task. It  
depends upon
the workflow in your office and you should try to find a solution  
that should come
pretty close to how you are already organized.

Christian



 BW

 2006/7/16, Christian Mittendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello!

 Go and check out the paramter element:

 http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/ 
 spec.html#spec.parameter

 You create your components by creating jwc and html files. And you  
 add a
 parameter information to your CustomTd.jwc file:

 parameter name=value required=yes /

 Now you can access this parameter as a property using the same  
 name in
 your CustomTd component:

 tdspan jwcid=@Insert value=ognl:value.foofoo/span/td

 And in your CustomTr you add your td like this:

 tr jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 td jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] value=ognl:foo.bar.../td
 /tr

 Christian


 Am 15.07.2006 um 20:55 schrieb Blackwings:

  Hello everybody,
 
  I'm new in Tapestry and, in fact, my boss asked me to try Tapestry
  to be
  able to compare with Struts in term of development time,
  efficiency, etc
  etc... yes, we are going to replace our old GUI web layer ;-)
 
  Anyway, I have a question maybe you will be able to answer :
 
  I would like to know how I could render a component, for example a
  list of
  custom td .../td inside a custom tr.../tr component.
 
  table
  tr jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
td class=myTdClassSomething here/td
td class=mySecondTdClass Something else here/td
td jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Placeholder #1/td
td jwcid=%remove% ...Placeholder #2/td
td jwcid=%remove% ...Placeholder #3/td
  /tr
  /table
 
  So I want to be able to render something like that. CustomTr is
  aware it
  needs CustomTd and should pass some parameters to 

Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Rui Pacheco

I have several components. Each will retrieve one connection from the pool,
do its thing and return it.

If they are done one at the time, then its great for me. But if each user
that calls the page causes 9 simultaneous connections to open, I'll need to
revise my strategy.

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is what
they were saying.

-Original Message-
From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as the
components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests over a
single connection.

- Original Message -
From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry users'
tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.


 All code within one request can easily just use one connection.  That's
 what
 we do with Tapernate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
 To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
 Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 Hi all

 This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
 before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

 I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments,
ie,
 components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
 realised
 my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
 connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db server
 might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

 I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its healthy
 to
 use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?

 How would you deal with this issue?
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RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread James Carman
So, you'd be okay with opening/closing 9 connections to the database during
each request cycle?  I'd think it would be better to just use one during the
entire request cycle.

-Original Message-
From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:40 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

Even if all components ask for their own connection, assuming components 
release connections when they are done, you would still expect only 1 
connection in use (though it may physically travel on upto 8 different 
connection, there is only 1 connection open at any given time).

A much better optimization would be to add an observer/mediator style 
pattern - a data provider that each component is able to tell what data it

needs (perhaps in the renderComponent method) and when the first request for

the data is made, the provider creates a SQL encompassing all requests, gets

it and is able to dish it out. However, I personally (without any more info)

would classify this optimization as pre-mature. 8 requests to the database 
may only result in about 400ms while I have a monster elsewhere slowing 
everything down. Plus you need to take into account how often the index page

is actually invoked.

- Original Message - 
From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple 
components rendered simultaneously.


 Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is what
 they were saying.

 -Original Message-
 From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as the
 components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests over a
 single connection.

 - Original Message - 
 From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry users'
 tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
 Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.


 All code within one request can easily just use one connection.  That's
 what
 we do with Tapernate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
 To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
 Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 Hi all

 This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
 before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

 I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments, 
 ie,
 components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
 realised
 my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
 connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db server
 might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

 I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its healthy
 to
 use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?

 How would you deal with this issue?
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Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Rui Pacheco

If I make my components wait, won't I be stalling the creation of the page?
Under heavy loads, how feasible will that be?

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oh, if you're worried about simultaneous connections to the database, you
don't have to worry.  You can set the maximum size of your pool to some
reasonable number.  Then, have your components wait until a connection is
available in the pool.

-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:05 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

I have several components. Each will retrieve one connection from the
pool,
do its thing and return it.

If they are done one at the time, then its great for me. But if each user
that calls the page causes 9 simultaneous connections to open, I'll need
to
revise my strategy.

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is
what
 they were saying.

 -Original Message-
 From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as the
 components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests over
a
 single connection.

 - Original Message -
 From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry users'
 tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
 Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.


  All code within one request can easily just use one
connection.  That's
  what
  we do with Tapernate.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
  To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
  Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
  components rendered simultaneously.
 
  Hi all
 
  This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
  before and might be able to give me some guiding light.
 
  I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments,
 ie,
  components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
  realised
  my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
  connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db
server
  might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.
 
  I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its
healthy
  to
  use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?
 
  How would you deal with this issue?
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RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread James Carman
Well, what you do is tell your pool to wait until one comes back into the
pool.  So, you set your maximum pool size to something like 200 (if your db
can handle more, do more if needed) connections.  That, along with using
only one connection per request cycle should help out.

-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:50 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

If I make my components wait, won't I be stalling the creation of the page?
Under heavy loads, how feasible will that be?

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, if you're worried about simultaneous connections to the database, you
 don't have to worry.  You can set the maximum size of your pool to some
 reasonable number.  Then, have your components wait until a connection is
 available in the pool.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:05 PM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 I have several components. Each will retrieve one connection from the
 pool,
 do its thing and return it.

 If they are done one at the time, then its great for me. But if each user
 that calls the page causes 9 simultaneous connections to open, I'll need
 to
 revise my strategy.

 On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is
 what
  they were saying.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
  To: Tapestry users
  Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
  components rendered simultaneously.
 
  Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as the
  components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests over
 a
  single connection.
 
  - Original Message -
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  To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry users'
  tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
  Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
  components rendered simultaneously.
 
 
   All code within one request can easily just use one
 connection.  That's
   what
   we do with Tapernate.
  
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
   To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
   Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
   components rendered simultaneously.
  
   Hi all
  
   This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen this
   before and might be able to give me some guiding light.
  
   I have a web application, which I am splitting into several fragments,
  ie,
   components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
   realised
   my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve a
   connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db
 server
   might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.
  
   I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its
 healthy
   to
   use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?
  
   How would you deal with this issue?
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Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Matt Welch

This seems to be much ado about nothing:

1) He likely won't be actually opening or closing 9 connections in a
request. I hope it's a safe assumption that a connection pool is being used.


2) Unless I'm mistaken about Tapestry's architecture, these 9 separate
components won't be processed simultaneously within the context of a single
request. All of the actions within that request will occur within the thread
allocated by the servlet container to handle that request so your 9
different data requests will happen one after the other and and no more than
one connection will be used by that request at any one time.

I suppose that under special circumstances you might need to be worried
about this. Let's say, perhaps, that these 9 components made repeated
simultaneous AJAX-style requests. In such a situation you might begin to
have an issue with strained connection pools.

Matt



On 7/17/06, Rui Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If I make my components wait, won't I be stalling the creation of the
page?
Under heavy loads, how feasible will that be?

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, if you're worried about simultaneous connections to the database,
you
 don't have to worry.  You can set the maximum size of your pool to some
 reasonable number.  Then, have your components wait until a connection
is
 available in the pool.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:05 PM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 I have several components. Each will retrieve one connection from the
 pool,
 do its thing and return it.

 If they are done one at the time, then its great for me. But if each
user
 that calls the page causes 9 simultaneous connections to open, I'll need
 to
 revise my strategy.

 On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is
 what
  they were saying.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
  To: Tapestry users
  Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
  components rendered simultaneously.
 
  Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as
the
  components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests
over
 a
  single connection.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry users'
  tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
  Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
  components rendered simultaneously.
 
 
   All code within one request can easily just use one
 connection.  That's
   what
   we do with Tapernate.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
   To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
   Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
   components rendered simultaneously.
  
   Hi all
  
   This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen
this
   before and might be able to give me some guiding light.
  
   I have a web application, which I am splitting into several
fragments,
  ie,
   components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I just
   realised
   my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to retrieve
a
   connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db
 server
   might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.
  
   I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its
 healthy
   to
   use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?
  
   How would you deal with this issue?
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Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread Rui Pacheco

I am using a connection pool.
My problem is, if each one of those 9 components retrieve a connection from
the pool for each page rendered, multiplied by the number of users, this
could lead to a quick exhaustion of resources.

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, a connection pool does help a bit.  I didn't see where they were
using
a pool before.  So, you're right, if the connections are being pooled
properly, nothing will be opening/closing.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Matt Welch
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:08 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

This seems to be much ado about nothing:

1) He likely won't be actually opening or closing 9 connections in a
request. I hope it's a safe assumption that a connection pool is being
used.


2) Unless I'm mistaken about Tapestry's architecture, these 9 separate
components won't be processed simultaneously within the context of a
single
request. All of the actions within that request will occur within the
thread
allocated by the servlet container to handle that request so your 9
different data requests will happen one after the other and and no more
than
one connection will be used by that request at any one time.

I suppose that under special circumstances you might need to be worried
about this. Let's say, perhaps, that these 9 components made repeated
simultaneous AJAX-style requests. In such a situation you might begin to
have an issue with strained connection pools.

Matt



On 7/17/06, Rui Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I make my components wait, won't I be stalling the creation of the
 page?
 Under heavy loads, how feasible will that be?

 On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Oh, if you're worried about simultaneous connections to the database,
 you
  don't have to worry.  You can set the maximum size of your pool to
some
  reasonable number.  Then, have your components wait until a connection
 is
  available in the pool.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:05 PM
  To: Tapestry users
  Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
  components rendered simultaneously.
 
  I have several components. Each will retrieve one connection from the
  pool,
  do its thing and return it.
 
  If they are done one at the time, then its great for me. But if each
 user
  that calls the page causes 9 simultaneous connections to open, I'll
need
  to
  revise my strategy.
 
  On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is
  what
   they were saying.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
   To: Tapestry users
   Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for
multiple
   components rendered simultaneously.
  
   Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as
 the
   components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests
 over
  a
   single connection.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry
users'
   tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
   Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
   Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for
multiple
   components rendered simultaneously.
  
  
All code within one request can easily just use one
  connection.  That's
what
we do with Tapernate.
   
-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.
   
Hi all
   
This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen
 this
before and might be able to give me some guiding light.
   
I have a web application, which I am splitting into several
 fragments,
   ie,
components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I
just
realised
my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to
retrieve
 a
connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db
  server
might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.
   
I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't believe its
  healthy
to
use 9 connections at the same time. What about the other users?
   
How would you deal with this issue?
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RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple components rendered simultaneously.

2006-07-17 Thread James Carman
Not if you set the maximum size of the pool to some reasonable number.

-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:18 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
components rendered simultaneously.

I am using a connection pool.
My problem is, if each one of those 9 components retrieve a connection from
the pool for each page rendered, multiplied by the number of users, this
could lead to a quick exhaustion of resources.

On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, a connection pool does help a bit.  I didn't see where they were
 using
 a pool before.  So, you're right, if the connections are being pooled
 properly, nothing will be opening/closing.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of
 Matt Welch
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:08 PM
 To: Tapestry users
 Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 This seems to be much ado about nothing:

 1) He likely won't be actually opening or closing 9 connections in a
 request. I hope it's a safe assumption that a connection pool is being
 used.


 2) Unless I'm mistaken about Tapestry's architecture, these 9 separate
 components won't be processed simultaneously within the context of a
 single
 request. All of the actions within that request will occur within the
 thread
 allocated by the servlet container to handle that request so your 9
 different data requests will happen one after the other and and no more
 than
 one connection will be used by that request at any one time.

 I suppose that under special circumstances you might need to be worried
 about this. Let's say, perhaps, that these 9 components made repeated
 simultaneous AJAX-style requests. In such a situation you might begin to
 have an issue with strained connection pools.

 Matt



 On 7/17/06, Rui Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If I make my components wait, won't I be stalling the creation of the
  page?
  Under heavy loads, how feasible will that be?
 
  On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Oh, if you're worried about simultaneous connections to the database,
  you
   don't have to worry.  You can set the maximum size of your pool to
 some
   reasonable number.  Then, have your components wait until a connection
  is
   available in the pool.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:05 PM
   To: Tapestry users
   Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
   components rendered simultaneously.
  
   I have several components. Each will retrieve one connection from the
   pool,
   do its thing and return it.
  
   If they are done one at the time, then its great for me. But if each
  user
   that calls the page causes 9 simultaneous connections to open, I'll
 need
   to
   revise my strategy.
  
   On 7/17/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Unless all components ask for their own connection, which I think is
   what
they were saying.
   
-Original Message-
From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for
 multiple
components rendered simultaneously.
   
Unless I'm missing something, you will not be using 9 connections as
  the
components will render in serial order. So you will make 9 requests
  over
   a
single connection.
   
- Original Message -
From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tapestry users' users@tapestry.apache.org; 'Tapestry
 users'
tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for
 multiple
components rendered simultaneously.
   
   
 All code within one request can easily just use one
   connection.  That's
 what
 we do with Tapernate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:13 AM
 To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
 Subject: A bit OT: how to manage database connections for multiple
 components rendered simultaneously.

 Hi all

 This is not a pure Tapestry question, but I believe you have seen
  this
 before and might be able to give me some guiding light.

 I have a web application, which I am splitting into several
  fragments,
ie,
 components, each one rendering content stored in a database. I
 just
 realised
 my index page would have 9 such fragments and if each is to
 retrieve
  a
 connection from the pool to get its content, the stress on the db
   server
 might be crazy, even if each request is quite short.

 I have a connection pool, but even with that I don't 

Re: Generic application wide formats

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
As you say... not pretty.

mc

On 17 Jul 2006 at 14:59, Shing Hing Man wrote:

 It is not very pretty. You could try the following.
 
 component id=dateField type=Insert
   binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/
 
   binding name=format
 ognl:new
 java.text.SimpleDateFormat(getMessages().getMessage('format_date'))
  /binding
 
  /component
 
 Shing
 --- Murray Collingwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi all
  
  I'm a little new to Tapestry so I may be missing
  something, happy for anybody to point me in 
  the right direction.  I'm currently running Tapestry
  4.0.2
  
  I want to standardise my date format for the entire
  application to dd/MM/.  I decided that 
  the best place to do this while allowing for
  internationalisation is to add it to my
  app.properties 
  file.  I added a few other formats while I was
  there, so I had something like the following:
  
  # Generic formats
  format_date=dd/MM/
  format_time=HH:mm
  format_pct0=##0%
  format_pct2=##0.##%
  format_currency=$#,###,##0.00
  
  Then I found that in order to display a date in this
  format I was writing 7 lines of java code for 
  each page where a date was displayed (most of
  them)...along with 1 more line in the .page 
  file for each date to be displayed.
  
  When I wanted to edit a date again using this format
  I had 4 lines per page and 1 line per 
  field.
  
  This only provides the most basic of editing (I
  haven't allowed for any error processing yet) 
  and while the number of lines is not large it did
  seem to me that there were different methods 
  being employed to format the date for display and
  others for edit and validation.
  
  As I began, I may have missed something but it does
  seem a little messy at the moment.  
  Does anybody have a better method of achieving this
  generic formating?
  
  Wouldn't it be nice ifI could specify formats in
  my message catalogue and then simply 
  apply them to my components with a single line of
  code?  eg
  
  a) displaying a date value:
  
  component id=dateField type=Insert
  binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/
  binding name=format
  value=message:format_date/
  /component
  
  b) editing a date value:
  
  component id=dateField type=DatePicker
  binding name=displayName
  value=message:mydate_label/
  binding name=value  
  value=myclass.mydate/
  binding name=format
  value=message:format_date/
  binding name=validators 
  value=validators:required/
  /component
  
  
  Is this possible?
  
  
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RE: Re: Generic application wide formats

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
What you have suggested is in fact what I am already doing for the date entry / 
update.  I'm 
also having to use a special method in my .java file to retrieve the format 
whenever I want to 
display a date in this format.

My problem is that this is a significant amount of coding required on each page 
for something 
that should be generic across my app.  Do you agree?

Cheers
mc


On 17 Jul 2006 at 16:21, Kristian Marinkovic wrote:

 this could help:
 http://www.nabble.com/Dynamic-translators-tf1229928.html#a3255867
 
 define your formatter as a bean and define the pattern using
 message:date_pattern
 
 greetings,
 kris
 
 

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 It is not very pretty. You could try the following.
 
 component id=dateField type=Insert
  binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/
 
   binding name=format
ognl:new
 java.text.SimpleDateFormat(getMessages().getMessage('format_date'))
 /binding
 
  /component
 
 Shing
 --- Murray Collingwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
  I'm a little new to Tapestry so I may be missing
  something, happy for anybody to point me in
  the right direction.  I'm currently running Tapestry
  4.0.2
 
  I want to standardise my date format for the entire
  application to dd/MM/.  I decided that
  the best place to do this while allowing for
  internationalisation is to add it to my
  app.properties
  file.  I added a few other formats while I was
  there, so I had something like the following:
 
  # Generic formats
  format_date=dd/MM/
  format_time=HH:mm
  format_pct0=##0%
  format_pct2=##0.##%
  format_currency=$#,###,##0.00
 
  Then I found that in order to display a date in this
  format I was writing 7 lines of java code for
  each page where a date was displayed (most of
  them)...along with 1 more line in the .page
  file for each date to be displayed.
 
  When I wanted to edit a date again using this format
  I had 4 lines per page and 1 line per
  field.
 
  This only provides the most basic of editing (I
  haven't allowed for any error processing yet)
  and while the number of lines is not large it did
  seem to me that there were different methods
  being employed to format the date for display and
  others for edit and validation.
 
  As I began, I may have missed something but it does
  seem a little messy at the moment.
  Does anybody have a better method of achieving this
  generic formating?
 
  Wouldn't it be nice ifI could specify formats in
  my message catalogue and then simply
  apply them to my components with a single line of
  code?  eg
 
  a) displaying a date value:
 
 component id=dateField type=Insert
 binding name=value value=myclass.mydate/
  binding name=format
  value=message:format_date/
 /component
 
  b) editing a date value:
 
  component id=dateField type=DatePicker
  binding name=displayName
  value=message:mydate_label/
  binding name=value
  value=myclass.mydate/
  binding name=format
  value=message:format_date/
  binding name=validators
  value=validators:required/
  /component
 
 
  Is this possible?
 
 
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Re: DirectLink in TableValue

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
I found this example somewhere, can't remember now... (I must keep bookmarking, 
I must 
keep bookmarking...)

[from A.html]

span jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
span jwcid=editLinkspan key=link_editEdit/span/span 
span jwcid=deleteLinkspan 
key=link_deleteDel/span/span 
/span

[from A.page]

component id=editLink type=DirectLink
binding name=listener value=listener:edit/
binding name=parameters value=comp.id/
/component
component id=deleteLink type=DirectLink
binding name=listener value=listener:delete/
binding name=parameters value=comp.id/
/component

That wasn't hard.

The question you were probably wanting to know though was how to include a 
table value in 
the link text.

[from B.html]

span jwcid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
span jwcid=descLink 
span jwcid=descText / 
/span 
/span

[from B.page]

component id=descLink type=DirectLink
binding name=listener value=listener:select/
binding name=parameters value=comp.id/
/component
component id=descText type=InsertText
binding name=value value=comp.desc/
/component


You have to nest the spans here, one for the link and the second for the link 
text.

Now you have everything.

Cheers
mc


On 13 Jul 2006 at 13:46, Kosarev A.V. wrote:

 Update:
 I wish to place in a column two DirectLink components.
 
 
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Re: Table foreach component - Flashing row

2006-07-17 Thread Murray Collingwood
What's the problem?

You can test your condition at the beginning of the row, when writing the tr 
component, so 
that you generate something like tr style=background-color: red; or tr 
class=rowinerror

I'm sure you've got past this.  

You mention when certain text is received, does this mean from user input in 
the midst of 
the table row or from the database?  Are you able to test the condition at the 
beginning of the 
row.  If you can't test at the beginning you could get JS to modify the 
background colour of 
the row, all you need is to assign an 'id' to the row and then retrieve the row 
in your JS and 
start changing properties.  Maybe you've tries this too...

One last thing, are you setting background colours in each cell?  If you do 
these will overwrite 
the background colour of the row in which case you may need to use JS to obtain 
control 
over each cell and set the background colour property manually in each.

Cheers
mc


On 18 Jul 2006 at 10:02, Peter Dawn wrote:

 guys,
 
 i have a table with a foreach condition within it. now the code
 generates a bunch of table rows based on my condition.
 
 now within my last column, i have a condition where if a certain text
 is received the background colour of that cell changes. now what i
 want to do is, if that text is received i want to hightlight the
 entire row or perhaps flash it, so that it shows attention to the user
 indicating that there is an error there.
 
 now how can i effect the entire row and not just the individual cell.
 has somebody done like this within a table.
 
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Question about PageValidate

2006-07-17 Thread Chris Chiappone

I am curious if what I have been experiencing with pageValidate is normal
behavior.  My pageValidate gets called when I click on a direct link that
goes to another page.  I would have expected pageValidate should only get
called when visiting only the enclosed page.

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help content implementation

2006-07-17 Thread Peter Dawn

has anybody tried to implement a help system using tapestry. within my
web app i want to implement a help manual and i am debating on whats
the best way of implementing this.

just a pop-up ie window would do fine or even something in dhtml. has
anybody thought of implementing something like this.

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Re: How do I do a Servlet filter, or similar functionality... help please!

2006-07-17 Thread James Carman
Why reinvent the wheel?  Try tapernate:

www.carmanconsulting.com/tapernate

You can use anonymous/anon to check it out from the SVN repository.

 Hi all,

 I have tried to implement a Servlet Filter but my Tapestry 4 app will not
 take it... I get some weird errors - is it not supposed to work?

 I have also read about the ServletRequestServicerFilter but I cannot find
 any decent documentation - is there any? ... I lack documentation about
 many
 things - where is the best way to go anyway?

 What I'm really trying to do is to manage my Hibernate transactions, I'd
 like to have one transaction per HTTP request. So I thought I'd do it like
 a
 servlet filter - is this the wrong way?
 Then I thought maybe I could use my border component which wraps all pages
 -
 would that be possible? Better?

 Any help appreciated.

 Malin



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Re: Question about PageValidate

2006-07-17 Thread James Carman
When you say direct link, do you mean a @DirectLink component which
calls a listener?  Or, do you mean a @PageLink?

 I am curious if what I have been experiencing with pageValidate is normal
 behavior.  My pageValidate gets called when I click on a direct link that
 goes to another page.  I would have expected pageValidate should only get
 called when visiting only the enclosed page.

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 ~chris



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Re: Navigational Menu

2006-07-17 Thread Scott Russell
You know, you could always take the jscookmenu source code and modify it to be 
Tapestry 3 compatible. I doubt it would very difficult to do.

-Scott

On Tuesday 18 July 2006 09:23, Peter Dawn wrote:
 nay. too risky. its a bit too late in the process for me to upgrade, i
 might break something. will probably upgrade straight to 5 now.

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Re: Navigational Menu

2006-07-17 Thread Peter Dawn

i probably could modify it, but am not sure if its worth it or not.
but i guess there must be a few ppl out there with an older version,
who would benefit from this. so will give it a try, if not then
perhaps somebody else could give it a try.

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