Re: Tapestry users declined for the first time in 3 years, says this researh site ...
Eelco, It's nice that you restate your distaste for trolls and that we can readily agree on their vile nature. I can't speak for the rest of the list, but I need no reminder of the childishness of the 'my group vs your group' mentality. I'm a software developer, not an evangelist, and therefore look at a piece of technology through the lens of its applicability to a problem and its elegance in dealing with the primary pains of that problem (tool for the task). Now about this derelict troll. I am not asserting that this person is a core developer of wicket, but I am asserting that he was at least active on the wicket dev and user lists throughout 2006-2007, and that it stands to reason that the person mentioned in that changelog is the same. We can't be sure of that because no email is listed, but does it really seem so illogical to think they are the same person, especially considering that the time frame of his list activity roughly coincide with that changelog's date? It's true that we cannot empirically know if all of these trolls, who happen to carry an astonishing similarity in writing style (eg voice, tone), are the same person or not. However we can be sure that Francis Amanfo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is Emmanuel Sowah ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), thanks to a classic error: http://www.nabble.com/Can-you-comment-on-this--to7986838.html#a8018515 The email address I am specifically pointing out as the tie between at least 2 of the personalities, as well as a person formerly active on the wicket lists is [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?query=famanfo%40gmail.comlocal=yforum=13974matchingForums=a It's worth noting that he seemed to be a happy tapestry user in the past (2005-April-ish 2006): http://www.nabble.com/user/UserPosts.jtp?user=148339local=yforum=302matchingForums=a When this Rob Smeets fool surfaced many of us quickly assumed (yes, assumed) he was the same as Emmanuel, again due to the remarkably similar style in his messages. In the end it doesn't really matter. Trolls are trolls and when they even passively align themselves with something then by nature that something's name, in this case wicket, can be dragged through the mud entirely against its will. It's therefore important that the tapestry community be as careful about isolating him from wicket as the wicket community is about distancing itself from him. We are all software developers using conceptually similar tools - component frameworks - which means we theoretically have a lot to learn from each other's strengths and weaknesses. Damn the lines, the camps, and the trolls. It's open source software, we should all be gaining from this. Respectfully yours, Chris Lewis Eelco Hillenius wrote: Chris Lewis-5 wrote: Except for the part about him not being a friend of wicket, I agree. We've every reason to believe this moron is the same Emanuel whatever, who is known to be Francis Amanfo, and who we know a good bit about. Specifically, he is active in the wicket community and was mentioned in a 'thanks' for having contributed an accepted patch (http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1/changes-report.html - search for Francis Amanfo). I wouldn't dare say that the rantings of a such bird brain reflect the wicket community, but he is in some manner associated with it. The Francis mentioned here contributed a patch. A very long time ago I might add. I don't think it Rob and Francis and other trolls around here are one person, and messages like this: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=48743#249209 enforce that opinion. But maybe I don't know any off them either. To me, there is a huge difference between someone contributing a patch and someone being active over an extended period of time (patches, but also on the mailing list) or even being part of the core team. If there would be anyone really active in the Wicket community behaving like Rob does we'd quite simply tell him to go fcku himself. And in the case of Rob, I actually sent him a private email with pretty much that message a while ago, though I never got a reply. We've stated on several occasions and in public that we don't like trolls either (here for instance: http://chillenious.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/is-there-a-wicket-tapestry-feud/). The whole my group vs your group is so incredibly childish. And the trolls are probably laughing their asses off right now. Ignoring them works better. Eelco (from the Wicket 'community') -- http://thegodcode.net
Re: Tapestry users declined for the first time in 3 years, says this researh site ...
By the way I just read your linked blog post and have three things to say: 1) Thanks. Continuous affirmation of a lack of sides is a Good Thing. 2) I read the post after writing and smiled that I spoke of the same Kumbaya state that should exist between the two frameworks, and also that I used the same 'mud' imagery referring to the wake of a troll. 3) The word plays on HLS' last name never get old. I'm not being sarcastic. I giggle every time I read one. chris Eelco Hillenius wrote: Chris Lewis-5 wrote: Except for the part about him not being a friend of wicket, I agree. We've every reason to believe this moron is the same Emanuel whatever, who is known to be Francis Amanfo, and who we know a good bit about. Specifically, he is active in the wicket community and was mentioned in a 'thanks' for having contributed an accepted patch (http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1/changes-report.html - search for Francis Amanfo). I wouldn't dare say that the rantings of a such bird brain reflect the wicket community, but he is in some manner associated with it. The Francis mentioned here contributed a patch. A very long time ago I might add. I don't think it Rob and Francis and other trolls around here are one person, and messages like this: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=48743#249209 enforce that opinion. But maybe I don't know any off them either. To me, there is a huge difference between someone contributing a patch and someone being active over an extended period of time (patches, but also on the mailing list) or even being part of the core team. If there would be anyone really active in the Wicket community behaving like Rob does we'd quite simply tell him to go fcku himself. And in the case of Rob, I actually sent him a private email with pretty much that message a while ago, though I never got a reply. We've stated on several occasions and in public that we don't like trolls either (here for instance: http://chillenious.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/is-there-a-wicket-tapestry-feud/). The whole my group vs your group is so incredibly childish. And the trolls are probably laughing their asses off right now. Ignoring them works better. Eelco (from the Wicket 'community') -- http://thegodcode.net
Re: [T5] JavaScript in template files
Ken,
You need to specify your script block as containing CDATA, like so:
script type=text/javascript![CDATA[
if(true true) {
alert(!!!);
}
]]/script
Tapestry treats templates as XML, and is an invalid character unless
processed as cdata.
chris
Ken wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a template file like below:
html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
head
script type=text/javascript
if (true true) {
alert(!!!);
}
/script
/head
/html
and prepare empty Java file.
then I accessed to this page and got an error:
An unexpected application exception has occurred.
Failure parsing template classpath:com/example/myapp/Test.tml: The
entity name must immediately follow the '' in the entity reference.
I'm using Tapestry 5.0.11.
somebody help me.
thanks.
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Re: t5's version?
Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you what's going on. Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2, 2007 and another site up since August, 2007. -Filip On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote: i am new to tapestry. i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn the inner technology of t5. so,what's the stable version of t5? i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web application,and know something about t5. however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even though i have followed the book. so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe. so...who can help me? another question: whoever have built a application using t5 already? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Smeets on the Couch
A brief psychoanalysis -- It is quite likely that, like most trolls, Rob Smeets is suffering from what is known as the abused child syndrome. This behavior arises from an insidious form of parental neglect of the subject as a young child, where the only attention the child receives from the parents is negative attention, usually to correct behavior -- attention such as stop hitting your brother, be quiet, sit down, etc. The parents fail to grant the child any substantive positive, praising attention for good behavior. Since we all need attention from our parents, the child in this situation quickly learns to misbehave to garner parental attention of any kind. Because we all base our adult relationships with peers and colleagues on relationship skills learned as a child, the adult abused-child engages in socially-unacceptable behavior and, sadly, thrives on the negative reactions of its peers. If this has escalated into a full-blown personality disorder for Mr. Smeets, and I suspect that it has, he has really very little hope. The common wisdom is that personality disorders stay with the subject for life, regardless of treatment. About the only hope Smeets has is for his peers and colleagues to stop reinforcing the his misbehaviors by responding to them negatively. In this way, it is hoped that he might learn to pursue an alternate course for attention, namely socially-acceptable, positive behavior. In other words, STOP RESPONDING TO SMEET'S FRICKING POSTS. JUST STOP. Ignore him. Stop doing what he wants you to do and he'll either throw tantrums and get kicked off or he'll go away. Frankly I don't know why Howard hasn't at least moderated him by now. That'll be $120, please. Bill H., Bachelor of Shenanigans, Master of Sh*t, Piled Higher and Deeper
Re: [T5] JavaScript in template files
Thank you Chris.
After I prepare CDATA block, the error was gone.
But my firebug pointed as below and dialog doesn't work.
missing ) after condition
if (true amp;amp; true) {\n
Anyway I think this is my homework.
I have to try a little.
thanks again!
Chris wrote:
Ken,
You need to specify your script block as containing CDATA, like so:
script type=text/javascript![CDATA[
if(true true) {
alert(!!!);
}
]]/script
Tapestry treats templates as XML, and is an invalid character unless
processed as cdata.
chris
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Re: Instability in Tapestry 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT
Howard Lewis Ship schrieb: ... I'm still experimenting, but this dual headed deployment will be the best upgrade path from T3/T4 to T5. I expect to follow up with new T5 tools to make sharing data between the apps easier. The discussion about the package name got very long, but nobody was interested in the new T5 tools to make sharing data [...] easier. I am very interested how you will integrate T4 and T5 apps. Having such an integration would be a viable upgrade path. Could you please share your thoughts on the integration tools? Thanks, Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [T5] JavaScript in template files
Take a look at
http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToIncludeJavaScript
This explains how to do it.
Szemere
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a template file like below:
html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
head
script type=text/javascript
if (true true) {
alert(!!!);
}
/script
/head
/html
and prepare empty Java file.
then I accessed to this page and got an error:
An unexpected application exception has occurred.
Failure parsing template classpath:com/example/myapp/Test.tml: The
entity name must immediately follow the '' in the entity reference.
I'm using Tapestry 5.0.11.
somebody help me.
thanks.
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show page title in layout component
Hello
I use a layout component for all my pages, like below.
But for some reason, the page title is not passed to the layout
component. What am I doing wrong?
Leon
Page.tml
html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
t:type=layout title=${message:page-title}
.
/html
Laout.tml:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /
link rel=shortcut icon href=${asset:favicon.ico}/
title${title}/title
/head
body
div id=container
t:branding t:id=branding /
t:heading t:id=heading
t:breadCrumbs=basePage.breadCrumbHolder.breadCrumbs /
t:body /
t:copyright t:id=copyright /
/div
/body
/html
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Re: t5's version?
sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you what's going on. Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2, 2007 and another site up since August, 2007. -Filip On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote: i am new to tapestry. i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn the inner technology of t5. so,what's the stable version of t5? i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web application,and know something about t5. however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even though i have followed the book. so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe. so...who can help me? another question: whoever have built a application using t5 already? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/t5%27s-version--tp17343189p17358619.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [T5] JavaScript in template files
Thanks Szemere! It's works! Szemere wote: Take a look at http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToIncludeJavaScript - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
customizing css of dojo widget components
Hi all, how can i specify my own css styles to dojo widgets. I am using tapestry4.1.5 any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/customizing-css-of-dojo-widget-components-tp17359199p17359199.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t5's version?
You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse, so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here with Eclipse as your tool. For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity. Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development. For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design, specifically it's classloader design). Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container, has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible in regards what technology stack you want to use with it. If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j. Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following patterns used by Tapestry itself. It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book, just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a module with build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with Tapestry IOC section on the website: http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/. Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with! It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely can be changed the way you want it. Enjoy! On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you what's going on. Regarding T5 applications, I've
Re: show page title in layout component
You're missing the t: namespace prefix on the title attribute.
Since you're putting it on a regular XHTML element, Tapestry won't
process the attribute without it.
-Filip
Leon Derks skrev:
Hello
I use a layout component for all my pages, like below.
But for some reason, the page title is not passed to the layout
component. What am I doing wrong?
Leon
Page.tml
html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
t:type=layout title=${message:page-title}
.
/html
Laout.tml:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /
link rel=shortcut icon href=${asset:favicon.ico}/
title${title}/title
/head
body
div id=container
t:branding t:id=branding /
t:heading t:id=heading
t:breadCrumbs=basePage.breadCrumbHolder.breadCrumbs /
t:body /
t:copyright t:id=copyright /
/div
/body
/html
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Re: t5's version?
My projects are setup with Maven, stored in Subversion, edited in IntelliJ IDEA, run in Jetty for local testing, deployed to Tomcat 5.5 (for now, moving to Jetty soon) and use Hibernate with MySQL (although I'm migrating to PostgreSQL soon) for data access. -Filip mark lu skrev: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you what's going on. Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2, 2007 and another site up since August, 2007. -Filip On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote: i am new to tapestry. i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn the inner technology of t5. so,what's the stable version of t5? i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web application,and know something about t5. however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even though i have followed the book. so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe. so...who can help me? another question: whoever have built a application using t5 already? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package rename for 5.0.12
Hi, There's something fishy going on, as the latest nightly build of annotations is the 16th days. Also, source control seems to be missing all together Inject and InjectService from ioc. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just me? (Moved somewhere or renamed?) - 99 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: As a follow on to the prior discussion ... the upgrade for users from 5.0.11 to 5.0.12 (once 5.0.12 is available) will have one big wrinkle: Package org.apache.tapestry has been renamed to org.apache.tapestry5. The rationale behind this is the rename will allow Tapestry 3 or Tapestry 4 applications to co-exist with a Tapestry 5 application. Without it, there were a number of naming conflicts. It's unfortunate that such a large change should occur so late, pretty much on the eve of a release candidate (5.0.12 may be a second beta, or may be the release candidate). This represents a lack of foresight on my part, and an evolving set of priorities. If you are on Unix, you can update your code pretty easily: find . -name \*.java -o -name \*.xml -o -name \*.properties | xargs sed -i s/org\\.apache\\.tapestry\\./org.apache.tapestry5./g This finds all Java, XML and properties files and edits them in place to replace org.apache.tapestry. with org.apache.tapestry5.. This will be necessary after tonight's nightly build (if you are using 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT) or once 5.0.12 is available (as part of the upgrade from 5.0.11). Thanks to everyone for all the great input; it felt that the consensus was that tapestry5 (rather than tapestry.v5 or other suggestions) was the best approach. Tapestry5 really is a new product in the Tapestry product line, and this naming still feels consistent to me. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Package-rename-for-5.0.12-tp17348699p17363689.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t5's version?
What a great post! One correction, though. Howard and a lot of other people - myself included - use IntelliJ IDEA. :) -Filip Adam Zimowski skrev: You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse, so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here with Eclipse as your tool. For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity. Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development. For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design, specifically it's classloader design). Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container, has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible in regards what technology stack you want to use with it. If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j. Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following patterns used by Tapestry itself. It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book, just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a module with build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with Tapestry IOC section on the website: http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/. Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with! It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely can be changed the way you want it. Enjoy! On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your
T5: get name of Start page
Hello Is it possible to get the name of the (default) start page? Leon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package rename for 5.0.12
Everything's fine. Annotations was moved to org.apache.tapestry:tapestry5-annotations. Now that T5 is in org.apache.tapestry5 it should probably be moved back. Also, some packages changed from ...annotation to ...annotations, might be why you can't find @Inject and @InjectService. -Filip 9902468 skrev: Hi, There's something fishy going on, as the latest nightly build of annotations is the 16th days. Also, source control seems to be missing all together Inject and InjectService from ioc. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just me? (Moved somewhere or renamed?) - 99 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: As a follow on to the prior discussion ... the upgrade for users from 5.0.11 to 5.0.12 (once 5.0.12 is available) will have one big wrinkle: Package org.apache.tapestry has been renamed to org.apache.tapestry5. The rationale behind this is the rename will allow Tapestry 3 or Tapestry 4 applications to co-exist with a Tapestry 5 application. Without it, there were a number of naming conflicts. It's unfortunate that such a large change should occur so late, pretty much on the eve of a release candidate (5.0.12 may be a second beta, or may be the release candidate). This represents a lack of foresight on my part, and an evolving set of priorities. If you are on Unix, you can update your code pretty easily: find . -name \*.java -o -name \*.xml -o -name \*.properties | xargs sed -i s/org\\.apache\\.tapestry\\./org.apache.tapestry5./g This finds all Java, XML and properties files and edits them in place to replace org.apache.tapestry. with org.apache.tapestry5.. This will be necessary after tonight's nightly build (if you are using 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT) or once 5.0.12 is available (as part of the upgrade from 5.0.11). Thanks to everyone for all the great input; it felt that the consensus was that tapestry5 (rather than tapestry.v5 or other suggestions) was the best approach. Tapestry5 really is a new product in the Tapestry product line, and this naming still feels consistent to me. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: get name of Start page
Yes, it is.
In a page:
@Inject
@Symbol(tapestry.start-page-name)
private String startPageName;
In a service:
Constructor(@Inject @Symbol(tapestry.start-page-name) String
startPageName) {
...
}
http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/conf.html
http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/symbols.html
-Filip
Leon Derks skrev:
Hello
Is it possible to get the name of the (default) start page?
Leon
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T5: Grid - custom sortable icon
Hi, it would be great to have a simple way how to customize sortable icon in grid table (for now I use some workaround). Generated table header cell for sortable column looks like: th... .. something .. ../../assets/tapestry/corelib/components/sortable.png /th Maybe, it would be better generated code looks like: th... .. something /th and sortable icon would be included as a background-image of the link (defined in css class t-sort-column; for actually sorted column the classes that can serve that purpose already exist: t-sort-column-ascending and t-sort-column-descending). This way I think it would be semantically cleaner and really easy to customize. Best regards, Pavla -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Grid---custom-sortable-icon-tp17364213p17364213.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Customizing grid sorting
There are two situations we hit often in our applications: - disabling sorting for one specific column because it doesn't have a corresponding db column - not allowing sorting by any of the columns because the data is sorted explicitly In T4 with contrib:Table you could specify a list of colums like foo,!bar,baz and then bar wouldn't be sorted. How have others handled this in T5? Dan Adams Senior Software Engineer Interactive Factory p: 617.235.5857 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t5's version?
Thank you for your explanation with so much patience and other warmhearted
guys!
i think i am in the right place!
My enviornment is:eclipse3.3 ,jetty6.1.9,tapestry5.0.6.
At first,i use tomcat,but whenever i changed the code there will be a error
pop up--hot code replace error,so i have to restart the server.it's very
annoy!so,i change to jetty,it's very fast!
BTW,who know how to conquer the hot code replace error in tomcat?
I have goolge this error,say i have to use IBM'vm,have i?
when i study t5,i have encountered some problems.the first one is about ASO:
in the page class,i declare a variable:
@ApplicationState
private IDataSource dataSource;//IDataSource is a interface
in AppModule:
public void contributeApplicationStateManager(
MappedConfigurationClass, ApplicationStateContribution configuration) {
ApplicationStateCreatorIDataSource creator = new
ApplicationStateCreatorIDataSource() {
public IDataSource create() {
return new MockDataSource();
}
};
configuration.add(IDataSource.class, new
ApplicationStateContribution(
session, creator));
}
the error is:
Failure reading parameter source of component ShowAll:grid:
java.lang.InstantiationException: com.packtpub.celebrities.data.IDataSource
what's the problem?
Adam Zimowski wrote:
You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but
Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse,
so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here
with Eclipse as your tool.
For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use
anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that
is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity.
Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app
server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development.
For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works
flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design,
specifically it's classloader design).
Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has
a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right
at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating
it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not
needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container,
has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry
has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the
need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just
as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of
Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take
advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible
in regards what technology stack you want to use with it.
If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to
you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons
logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your
apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class
from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because
at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes
anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j.
Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a
look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a
masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best
practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be
doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following
patterns used by Tapestry itself.
It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as
Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are
used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book,
just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your
own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a module with
build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with
Tapestry IOC section on the website:
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/.
Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with!
It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if
you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what
now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely
can be changed the way you want it.
Enjoy!
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application?
such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc.
thank you for your help!!
Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote:
Hi,
I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs
Re: t5's version?
As you say,there is no need to use spring,so i'll study hibernate next,am i right?:) BTW,i don't master maven,is't going to be a problem during my learning?is't very useful? i don't like the command line's tools! Adam Zimowski wrote: You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse, so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here with Eclipse as your tool. For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity. Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development. For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design, specifically it's classloader design). Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container, has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible in regards what technology stack you want to use with it. If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j. Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following patterns used by Tapestry itself. It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book, just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a module with build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with Tapestry IOC section on the website: http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/. Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with! It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely can be changed the way you want it. Enjoy! On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at
Re: Package rename for 5.0.12
There's two different artifacts thgat store annotations: tapestry-annotations (for T4) and tapestry5-annotations (for T5). T5's name is going to stay modified (as tapestry5-annotations) so that we can distinguish the two when using them in the same WAR. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Filip S. Adamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything's fine. Annotations was moved to org.apache.tapestry:tapestry5-annotations. Now that T5 is in org.apache.tapestry5 it should probably be moved back. Also, some packages changed from ...annotation to ...annotations, might be why you can't find @Inject and @InjectService. -Filip 9902468 skrev: Hi, There's something fishy going on, as the latest nightly build of annotations is the 16th days. Also, source control seems to be missing all together Inject and InjectService from ioc. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just me? (Moved somewhere or renamed?) - 99 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: As a follow on to the prior discussion ... the upgrade for users from 5.0.11 to 5.0.12 (once 5.0.12 is available) will have one big wrinkle: Package org.apache.tapestry has been renamed to org.apache.tapestry5. The rationale behind this is the rename will allow Tapestry 3 or Tapestry 4 applications to co-exist with a Tapestry 5 application. Without it, there were a number of naming conflicts. It's unfortunate that such a large change should occur so late, pretty much on the eve of a release candidate (5.0.12 may be a second beta, or may be the release candidate). This represents a lack of foresight on my part, and an evolving set of priorities. If you are on Unix, you can update your code pretty easily: find . -name \*.java -o -name \*.xml -o -name \*.properties | xargs sed -i s/org\\.apache\\.tapestry\\./org.apache.tapestry5./g This finds all Java, XML and properties files and edits them in place to replace org.apache.tapestry. with org.apache.tapestry5.. This will be necessary after tonight's nightly build (if you are using 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT) or once 5.0.12 is available (as part of the upgrade from 5.0.11). Thanks to everyone for all the great input; it felt that the consensus was that tapestry5 (rather than tapestry.v5 or other suggestions) was the best approach. Tapestry5 really is a new product in the Tapestry product line, and this naming still feels consistent to me. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Smeets on the Couch
Actually, I did kick him off the list (he then went paranoid, accusing me of blocking his domain) but we seem to be having a ripple effect as new folks pick up the old threads. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Bill Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A brief psychoanalysis -- It is quite likely that, like most trolls, Rob Smeets is suffering from what is known as the abused child syndrome. This behavior arises from an insidious form of parental neglect of the subject as a young child, where the only attention the child receives from the parents is negative attention, usually to correct behavior -- attention such as stop hitting your brother, be quiet, sit down, etc. The parents fail to grant the child any substantive positive, praising attention for good behavior. Since we all need attention from our parents, the child in this situation quickly learns to misbehave to garner parental attention of any kind. Because we all base our adult relationships with peers and colleagues on relationship skills learned as a child, the adult abused-child engages in socially-unacceptable behavior and, sadly, thrives on the negative reactions of its peers. If this has escalated into a full-blown personality disorder for Mr. Smeets, and I suspect that it has, he has really very little hope. The common wisdom is that personality disorders stay with the subject for life, regardless of treatment. About the only hope Smeets has is for his peers and colleagues to stop reinforcing the his misbehaviors by responding to them negatively. In this way, it is hoped that he might learn to pursue an alternate course for attention, namely socially-acceptable, positive behavior. In other words, STOP RESPONDING TO SMEET'S FRICKING POSTS. JUST STOP. Ignore him. Stop doing what he wants you to do and he'll either throw tantrums and get kicked off or he'll go away. Frankly I don't know why Howard hasn't at least moderated him by now. That'll be $120, please. Bill H., Bachelor of Shenanigans, Master of Sh*t, Piled Higher and Deeper -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instability in Tapestry 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT
Right now, I'm thinking of a new annotation that would allow you to map a component field directly to a Session attribute; the session attribute keys used by a T3 or T4 app are very predictable and this would allow the T5 app to share data where appropriate without the fuss of using the Session API directly. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Andy Pahne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howard Lewis Ship schrieb: ... I'm still experimenting, but this dual headed deployment will be the best upgrade path from T3/T4 to T5. I expect to follow up with new T5 tools to make sharing data between the apps easier. The discussion about the package name got very long, but nobody was interested in the new T5 tools to make sharing data [...] easier. I am very interested how you will integrate T4 and T5 apps. Having such an integration would be a viable upgrade path. Could you please share your thoughts on the integration tools? Thanks, Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t5's version?
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Adam Zimowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use pretty much any IDE to develop your web application, but Howard (the creator) as well as most people on the list use Eclipse, so if you need IDE-specific help, you're most likely to get it here with Eclipse as your tool. For application server (aka servlet container), again, you can use anything (Tomcat, Resin, Jetty, JBoss, WebSphere, etc), but one that is heavily preferred here is Jetty, for its speed and simplicity. Again, you'll eliminate tons of potential problems related to app server setup if you choose Jetty at least for you local development. For example, under Jetty Tapestry live class reloading works flawlessly, but not so under Tomcat (due to Tomcat's internal design, specifically it's classloader design). Other than those two, you're free to use any technology. Tapestry has a great support for Hibernate, so if you choose that you'll be right at home. I personally use iBatis, and have had no problems integrating it with Tapestry. Spring is also very well supported, but really, not needed since one of Spring's biggest advantages, it's IOC container, has built-in functionality in Tapestry. What I mean is that Tapestry has a fantastic IOC container itself, which pretty much eliminates the need for Spring. If you need AOP, integrating AspectJ should work just as well. I wrote few applications in Tapestry 5 where the only part of Spring I used was spring-core, spring-dao and spring-jdbc, to take advantage of Spring data access layer. Tapestry is very, very flexible in regards what technology stack you want to use with it. If you're used to logging with Log4J this may be a bit of change to you, as Tapestry uses simple logging facade rather than commons logging. What this means, you won't be using Log4J directly in your apps as you may have in the past, instead you'll be using Logger class from http://www.slf4j.org/. It takes a while getting used to, because at first I would find myself using Log4J in non-Tapestry classes anyway (just a habit) rather than pulling in slf4j. Finally, Tapestry 5 is a world-class code! If you have a chance take a look at it's sources. It reads like a poem, simply put, it's a masterpiece. What I mean by that is that it follows all the best practices, desgin patterns, and everything a programmer should be doing. You can learn a great bit about system design by following patterns used by Tapestry itself. Thanks for the complements! I prefer all my DSLs to be in iambic pentameter. It really helps to be very famliar with Inversion of Control, as Tapestry implements it quite differently than what many newcommers are used to. Using dependencies is very easy, as you found from the book, just do @Inject, @InjectPage etc and bam! it's there. Setting up your own (dao's, etc) is different though, as you build a module with build methods or bindings, I'd recommend to get very familiar with Tapestry IOC section on the website: http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/. Other than that, I can only say Tapestry 5 is a pleasure to work with! It's power is amazing, anything can be changed and configured, so if you're ever thinking, jeez I don't like this or that default, what now? Just send and e-mail to this list, and you'll see it most likely can be changed the way you want it. Enjoy! On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, mark lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you
Re: show page title in layout component
html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
t:type=layout title=${message:page-title}
I believe you want to replace
title=${message:page-title}
with
t:title=message:page-title
Josh
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Leon Derks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
I use a layout component for all my pages, like below.
But for some reason, the page title is not passed to the layout component.
What am I doing wrong?
Leon
Page.tml
html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
t:type=layout title=${message:page-title}
.
/html
Laout.tml:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /
link rel=shortcut icon href=${asset:favicon.ico}/
title${title}/title
/head
body
div id=container
t:branding t:id=branding /
t:heading t:id=heading
t:breadCrumbs=basePage.breadCrumbHolder.breadCrumbs /
t:body /
t:copyright t:id=copyright /
/div
/body
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Re: t5's version?
Hey Filip, I'm using the same environment that you've described. I'm curious about your choice to move from MySQL and Tomcat. I've considered making the two changes you are working on, and I'm curious what made you take the leap? Josh On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Filip S. Adamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My projects are setup with Maven, stored in Subversion, edited in IntelliJ IDEA, run in Jetty for local testing, deployed to Tomcat 5.5 (for now, moving to Jetty soon) and use Hibernate with MySQL (although I'm migrating to PostgreSQL soon) for data access. -Filip mark lu skrev: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you what's going on. Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2, 2007 and another site up since August, 2007. -Filip On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote: i am new to tapestry. i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn the inner technology of t5. so,what's the stable version of t5? i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web application,and know something about t5. however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even though i have followed the book. so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe. so...who can help me? another question: whoever have built a application using t5 already? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TheDailyTube.com. Sign up and get the best new videos on the internet delivered fresh to your inbox. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t5's version?
Hi Josh, With Tomcat it's all the small, annoying problems I encounter every once in a while and the fact that it's slooow compared to Jetty. And since I use it for development I might as well use it in production. With MySQL... I sort of just want to try (and learn) something new. That and the fact that MySQL is just weird sometimes. And since I'm the one making the decisions around here, I can do whatever I want. :) -Filip On 2008-05-21 19:17, Josh Canfield wrote: Hey Filip, I'm using the same environment that you've described. I'm curious about your choice to move from MySQL and Tomcat. I've considered making the two changes you are working on, and I'm curious what made you take the leap? Josh On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Filip S. Adamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My projects are setup with Maven, stored in Subversion, edited in IntelliJ IDEA, run in Jetty for local testing, deployed to Tomcat 5.5 (for now, moving to Jetty soon) and use Hibernate with MySQL (although I'm migrating to PostgreSQL soon) for data access. -Filip mark lu skrev: sorry,i mean what technology do you use in you web application? such as tapestry ,spring ,hibernate,cvs,eclipse,etc. thank you for your help!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi, I'm hardly an expert. I just read the docs and keep an eye on the commits and JIRA issues. :) All the advice I can give is that you read ALL the docs on T5 and go from there. Learning Spring is not necessary with T5 IoC. Hibernate is a very good framework to know, though - I use it extensively myself. I can't recommend a database for you, it depends on the kind of application you want to make, your budget, where you deploy, etc. What do you mean by what knowledges I use? -Filip mark lu skrev: Alexander 's book based on 5.0.6. i think you must be an expert in tapestry! i want to build my web application,cound you give me some advices? what other knowledges do i need except for tapestry?do i need learn spring or hibernate? Alexander recommend db4o as a database,how about you advice? what knowledges do you use in you web applicaton? thanks!! Filip S. Adamsen-2 wrote: Hi there, Welcome to the list. :) Alexander's book is based on Tapestry 5.0.7 or so, I believe. The current beta version is 5.0.11 with 5.0.12 available as snapshots. As T5 was alpha when Alexander wrote the book, there have been quite a few changes since then. You can see some of them at http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/upgrade.html. If there's anything else that doesn't work I'd advise you to check out the relevant docs at the website, and if that doesn't solve your problem, send a mail to this list. We'll probably be able to tell you what's going on. Regarding T5 applications, I've had one site running since December 2, 2007 and another site up since August, 2007. -Filip On 2008-05-20 17:27, mark lu wrote: i am new to tapestry. i just want to use t5 to build my application and i don't want to learn the inner technology of t5. so,what's the stable version of t5? i have read Alexander Kolesnikov's book--tapestry 5 build web application,and know something about t5. however,during my studying process,i encountered some problem even though i have followed the book. so,i think it's the framework's bug,maybe. so...who can help me? another question: whoever have built a application using t5 already? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package rename for 5.0.12
Ah, okay. Wouldn't it make sense to rename the rest of the artifacts as well? Or is that too disruptive? -Filip On 2008-05-21 18:06, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: There's two different artifacts thgat store annotations: tapestry-annotations (for T4) and tapestry5-annotations (for T5). T5's name is going to stay modified (as tapestry5-annotations) so that we can distinguish the two when using them in the same WAR. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Filip S. Adamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything's fine. Annotations was moved to org.apache.tapestry:tapestry5-annotations. Now that T5 is in org.apache.tapestry5 it should probably be moved back. Also, some packages changed from ...annotation to ...annotations, might be why you can't find @Inject and @InjectService. -Filip 9902468 skrev: Hi, There's something fishy going on, as the latest nightly build of annotations is the 16th days. Also, source control seems to be missing all together Inject and InjectService from ioc. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just me? (Moved somewhere or renamed?) - 99 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: As a follow on to the prior discussion ... the upgrade for users from 5.0.11 to 5.0.12 (once 5.0.12 is available) will have one big wrinkle: Package org.apache.tapestry has been renamed to org.apache.tapestry5. The rationale behind this is the rename will allow Tapestry 3 or Tapestry 4 applications to co-exist with a Tapestry 5 application. Without it, there were a number of naming conflicts. It's unfortunate that such a large change should occur so late, pretty much on the eve of a release candidate (5.0.12 may be a second beta, or may be the release candidate). This represents a lack of foresight on my part, and an evolving set of priorities. If you are on Unix, you can update your code pretty easily: find . -name \*.java -o -name \*.xml -o -name \*.properties | xargs sed -i s/org\\.apache\\.tapestry\\./org.apache.tapestry5./g This finds all Java, XML and properties files and edits them in place to replace org.apache.tapestry. with org.apache.tapestry5.. This will be necessary after tonight's nightly build (if you are using 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT) or once 5.0.12 is available (as part of the upgrade from 5.0.11). Thanks to everyone for all the great input; it felt that the consensus was that tapestry5 (rather than tapestry.v5 or other suggestions) was the best approach. Tapestry5 really is a new product in the Tapestry product line, and this naming still feels consistent to me. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Customizing grid sorting
Dan Adams dan at ifactory.com writes:
There are two situations we hit often in our applications:
- disabling sorting for one specific column because it doesn't have a
corresponding db column
- not allowing sorting by any of the columns because the data is sorted
explicitly
In T4 with contrib:Table you could specify a list of colums like
foo,!bar,baz and then bar wouldn't be
sorted. How have others handled this in T5?
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Hello Dan!
I think you cannot do that using actual Grid parameters, but you can use the
BeanModel API to disable sorting on specific properties, maybe a good place to
make it is the setupRender phase method:
private BeanModel _model;
...
void setupRender()
{
_model.get(name).sortable(false);
}
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Re: Autocomplete component
Hi, Using autocomplete mixin, how do we know, if an option of the list provided was selected, or if user has entered another text? Would be great if some event was fired on server side when user select one of option provided by mixin. Thanks, Marcus
Overriding default validation messages
Hi How do I change the default validation message for a validator i.e. I want to change the message from you must supply a value for is to x is required. I know how to do it for each property i.e. email-required-message=x but I'd like to change the default Thanks! Toby
Re: Overriding default validation messages
I think this is the best way (if not the only) http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToOverrideTheDefaultErrorMessageBanner Regards. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Toby Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi How do I change the default validation message for a validator i.e. I want to change the message from you must supply a value for is to x is required. I know how to do it for each property i.e. email-required-message=x but I'd like to change the default Thanks! Toby
Re: Overriding default validation messages
Sorry ... I should have looked at the wiki first Thanks Manuel Tob - Original Message From: Manuel Corrales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org; Toby Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008 9:19:48 PM Subject: Re: Overriding default validation messages I think this is the best way (if not the only) http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToOverrideTheDefaultErrorMessageBanner Regards. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Toby Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi How do I change the default validation message for a validator i.e. I want to change the message from you must supply a value for is to x is required. I know how to do it for each property i.e. email-required-message=x but I'd like to change the default Thanks! Toby
Re: Overriding default validation messages
Its ok, i did the same thing (exactly the same question), that how i know about the wiki now. :) On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Toby Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... I should have looked at the wiki first Thanks Manuel Tob - Original Message From: Manuel Corrales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org; Toby Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008 9:19:48 PM Subject: Re: Overriding default validation messages I think this is the best way (if not the only) http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToOverrideTheDefaultErrorMessageBanner Regards. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Toby Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi How do I change the default validation message for a validator i.e. I want to change the message from you must supply a value for is to x is required. I know how to do it for each property i.e. email-required-message=x but I'd like to change the default Thanks! Toby
Re: Package rename for 5.0.12
A bit disruptive and unecessary; T4 is tapestry-framework (and tapestry-contrib) and you bring in tapestry-annotations explicitly. T5 is tapestry-core which brings in tapestry-ioc which brings in tapestry5-annotations. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Filip S. Adamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, okay. Wouldn't it make sense to rename the rest of the artifacts as well? Or is that too disruptive? -Filip On 2008-05-21 18:06, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: There's two different artifacts thgat store annotations: tapestry-annotations (for T4) and tapestry5-annotations (for T5). T5's name is going to stay modified (as tapestry5-annotations) so that we can distinguish the two when using them in the same WAR. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Filip S. Adamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything's fine. Annotations was moved to org.apache.tapestry:tapestry5-annotations. Now that T5 is in org.apache.tapestry5 it should probably be moved back. Also, some packages changed from ...annotation to ...annotations, might be why you can't find @Inject and @InjectService. -Filip 9902468 skrev: Hi, There's something fishy going on, as the latest nightly build of annotations is the 16th days. Also, source control seems to be missing all together Inject and InjectService from ioc. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just me? (Moved somewhere or renamed?) - 99 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: As a follow on to the prior discussion ... the upgrade for users from 5.0.11 to 5.0.12 (once 5.0.12 is available) will have one big wrinkle: Package org.apache.tapestry has been renamed to org.apache.tapestry5. The rationale behind this is the rename will allow Tapestry 3 or Tapestry 4 applications to co-exist with a Tapestry 5 application. Without it, there were a number of naming conflicts. It's unfortunate that such a large change should occur so late, pretty much on the eve of a release candidate (5.0.12 may be a second beta, or may be the release candidate). This represents a lack of foresight on my part, and an evolving set of priorities. If you are on Unix, you can update your code pretty easily: find . -name \*.java -o -name \*.xml -o -name \*.properties | xargs sed -i s/org\\.apache\\.tapestry\\./org.apache.tapestry5./g This finds all Java, XML and properties files and edits them in place to replace org.apache.tapestry. with org.apache.tapestry5.. This will be necessary after tonight's nightly build (if you are using 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT) or once 5.0.12 is available (as part of the upgrade from 5.0.11). Thanks to everyone for all the great input; it felt that the consensus was that tapestry5 (rather than tapestry.v5 or other suggestions) was the best approach. Tapestry5 really is a new product in the Tapestry product line, and this naming still feels consistent to me. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using onValidate() event handler with beaneditform
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Re: Using onValidate() event handler with beaneditform
The name got shifted somewhat, to onValidateForm(). On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Dan Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this supposed to work? Dan Adams Senior Software Engineer Interactive Factory p: 617.235.5857 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help in index page cache tapestry5.11
Hi all, I encounter a problem , in my index page a lots of query happens each time when i reload the it. so my question here is that is there some cache strategy to cache my index page? thanks in advance!!
