Re: AW: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
I will ask around about this. I've been involved in projects where squid was used but it was only for specific types of resources - so this is new to me. Sounds like the ie cache prevention strategy that normally works (via that timestamp param) isn't helping with squid or doesn't evevn show up in the url...Weird. I'll ping someone and get back to you if there is anything to get back with. I'm sure they'll know if anyone does as they have several very very large dojo based public facing apps deployed using squid in there for a few things (including dojo) .. On 3/28/07, Andreas Pardeike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 28 mar 2007, at 15.50, Maximilian Weißböck wrote: > Application works with IE if we do NOT use a proxy. > It breaks in IE if we use the proxy (we use the squid proxy). > > BUT: If you set in IE the internet option "use HTTP 1.1 for proxy > connections" > (don't know the exact wording since I have only a german IE available) > it also works using our squid proxy. > > The problem is, IE get's just crap for all the java script, if we > are behind > the proxy and the HTTP 1.1 proxy option is not set. BTW, new problem today. A customer told me that she got two items for every click into the basket. Turns out, IE settings were "Check every time" instead of "Automatic". Interestingly, reproducing this problem wasn't possible unless the test were ran from their network connection (don't know enough about it but I guess its one of the big telcom companies here in Sweden). Here's the access log: [28/Mar/2007:14:03:59 +0200] "GET /pages/search,buy_link.sdir? sp=S978913209&sp=1&sp=1&sp=S&sp=F&updateParts=basket_container&beven ttarget.id=buy_link&beventname=onClick&dojo.preventCache=1175083373574 H TTP/1.1" 200 2720 [28/Mar/2007:14:03:59 +0200] "GET /pages/search,buy_link.sdir? sp=S978913209&sp=1&sp=1&sp=S&sp=F&updateParts=basket_container HTTP/1.1" 200 48210 and compare it to a normal request: [28/Mar/2007:14:19:58 +0200] "GET /pages/search,buy_link.sdir? sp=S978913209&sp=1&sp=1&sp=S&sp=F&updateParts=basket_container&beven ttarget.id=buy_link&beventname=onClick&dojo.preventCache=1175084394953 H TTP/1.1" 200 2760 In case you're interested, the request is created when you click on the shopping cart symbol after you searched something at http://www.fsbutiken.se (Sök) Did I tell that I hate explorer or was this yesterday? Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
On 28 mar 2007, at 15.50, Maximilian Weißböck wrote: Application works with IE if we do NOT use a proxy. It breaks in IE if we use the proxy (we use the squid proxy). BUT: If you set in IE the internet option "use HTTP 1.1 for proxy connections" (don't know the exact wording since I have only a german IE available) it also works using our squid proxy. The problem is, IE get's just crap for all the java script, if we are behind the proxy and the HTTP 1.1 proxy option is not set. BTW, new problem today. A customer told me that she got two items for every click into the basket. Turns out, IE settings were "Check every time" instead of "Automatic". Interestingly, reproducing this problem wasn't possible unless the test were ran from their network connection (don't know enough about it but I guess its one of the big telcom companies here in Sweden). Here's the access log: [28/Mar/2007:14:03:59 +0200] "GET /pages/search,buy_link.sdir? sp=S978913209&sp=1&sp=1&sp=S&sp=F&updateParts=basket_container&beven ttarget.id=buy_link&beventname=onClick&dojo.preventCache=1175083373574 H TTP/1.1" 200 2720 [28/Mar/2007:14:03:59 +0200] "GET /pages/search,buy_link.sdir? sp=S978913209&sp=1&sp=1&sp=S&sp=F&updateParts=basket_container HTTP/1.1" 200 48210 and compare it to a normal request: [28/Mar/2007:14:19:58 +0200] "GET /pages/search,buy_link.sdir? sp=S978913209&sp=1&sp=1&sp=S&sp=F&updateParts=basket_container&beven ttarget.id=buy_link&beventname=onClick&dojo.preventCache=1175084394953 H TTP/1.1" 200 2760 In case you're interested, the request is created when you click on the shopping cart symbol after you searched something at http://www.fsbutiken.se (Sök) Did I tell that I hate explorer or was this yesterday? Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
Just to keep the list informed ... Application works with IE if we do NOT use a proxy. It breaks in IE if we use the proxy (we use the squid proxy). BUT: If you set in IE the internet option "use HTTP 1.1 for proxy connections" (don't know the exact wording since I have only a german IE available) it also works using our squid proxy. The problem is, IE get's just crap for all the java script, if we are behind the proxy and the HTTP 1.1 proxy option is not set. More to come Max > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. März 2007 05:17 > An: Tapestry users > Betreff: Re: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing! > > Sounds un-fun. > > If you capture a sample request via fiddler / wireshark > (plugins / dev utilities for ie) I can at least tell you what > is going wrong. I'm less sure I can tell you how to fix it. > I'm semi familiar with squid - but this doesn't sound like > the same kind of situation. > > On 3/23/07, Maximilian Wei?bock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andreas, > > > > sadly I have to say that your page still has errors, the > very fierst > > error I get if I clean ally my browser chache and than go to > > http://www.fsbutiken.se/ is: > > > > Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > > > > BUT: We have a caching proxy to connect to the internet! > > > > If I disable the caching proxy, your site works without JavaScript > > errors! > > This at least gives some hints where the problem is. > > > > Sadly we are no IE experts, has anyone a hint what we can > do to make > > Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo / IE work with caching? Cause we can > not control > > if customers have a chahing proxy or not... > > > > Thanks, Max > > > > > > -- > Jesse Kuhnert > Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer > > Open source based consulting work centered around > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
Sounds un-fun. If you capture a sample request via fiddler / wireshark (plugins / dev utilities for ie) I can at least tell you what is going wrong. I'm less sure I can tell you how to fix it. I'm semi familiar with squid - but this doesn't sound like the same kind of situation. On 3/23/07, Maximilian Wei?bock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas, sadly I have to say that your page still has errors, the very fierst error I get if I clean ally my browser chache and than go to http://www.fsbutiken.se/ is: Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' BUT: We have a caching proxy to connect to the internet! If I disable the caching proxy, your site works without JavaScript errors! This at least gives some hints where the problem is. Sadly we are no IE experts, has anyone a hint what we can do to make Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo / IE work with caching? Cause we can not control if customers have a chahing proxy or not... Thanks, Max -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
Andreas, sadly I have to say that your page still has errors, the very fierst error I get if I clean ally my browser chache and than go to http://www.fsbutiken.se/ is: Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' BUT: We have a caching proxy to connect to the internet! If I disable the caching proxy, your site works without JavaScript errors! This at least gives some hints where the problem is. Sadly we are no IE experts, has anyone a hint what we can do to make Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo / IE work with caching? Cause we can not control if customers have a chahing proxy or not... Thanks, Max > > Maximilian, > > > Now we fond another posting > > http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 > > that reports the excat same problem, but the solution given > seems not > > to work for us. > > You referred to my posting. Here are comments on quotes of it: > > On 20 mar 2007, at 18.30, baleksandar wrote: > > we have almost the same problem (msie freezing, javascript > errors) by > > using tomcat + tapestry 4.1 + MSIE. > > > > we hope maybe you could give us some hints how to solve this issue > > especially because i see that your web page > http://www.fsbutiken.se > > doesn't work 100% well on msie, and i thought you are still > working on > > the fix? did you already realize that your page sometimes returns > > javascript errors? > > Not sure if you're talking about an older version of the site. > Anyway, I would > be surprised to see that http://www.fsbutiken.se still does > not work or give js errors. I tested and found no problems anymore. > > Keep in mind that it is *absolutely* necessary to empty the > browser cache in IE *every time* you test. Otherwise you're > hunting ghost problems... > > > Unfortunatelly, the solution you mentioned earlier doesn't > work for as > > - our server had all the time the compression flag turned off. the > > question is does it really work for you? > > we've tested our application using at least three client computers > > with same configured msie browsers. Sometimes (but not > always) we got > > the javascript errors such "tapestry.form" object doesn't > exist or the > > msie just start to freeze. These errors always appear in > conjunction > > with use of tapestry SubmitLink component. we can not reproduce > > that... > > The important part here is that something is that errors like > > > Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' > > Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > > Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > > most certainly are related to either a serving problem or a > js script error that prevents loading (I would bet it's not a > script error). > > So double+triple check your tomcat configuration. Also make > sure you don't do any special stuff in your border component > or in your @Shell configuration. > > Andreas Pardeike > > PS: I would really love to see some error checking on this. > It's really hard to catch any errors resulting from asset > linking problems. > > -- > > On 21 mar 2007, at 19.43, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: > > > IE is a little less forgiving with javascript errors, so if you get > > one all other code will be skipped. (a lot of the time) > > > > I fixed what was a very subtle IE specific bug recently in > > 4.1.2-SNAPSHOT. You may try that "just to see" . ...I only have IE7 > > available to me right now, but should be able to get a hold of my > > vmware ie6 image tomorrow and take a look at what is > happening after > > that. > > > > Have you noticed any errors happening before "not able to load > > package" things? > > > > On 3/21/07, Maximilian Wei?bock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> We have a very hard problem with a Tapestry 4.1.1 Application on > >> Windows IE 6. > >> We get javascript errors all the time (even if they are not > >> reproducable on all developer machines) using IE 6. > >> > >> Some of the errors are: > >> > >> Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' > >> Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > >> Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > >> > >> On a german IE we get more or less the same errors: > >> > >> 'tapestry' ist undefiniert - which translates to 'tapestry' is > >> undefined ' dojo' ist undefiniert - which translates 'dojo' is > >> undefined > >> > >> Sometimes errors go so far, that IE does not react on any > mouse click > >> any more. > >> What seems to cure the problem is ab browser refresh > (pressing Ctrl > >> F5) > >> > >> Now we fond another posting > >> http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 > >> that reports the excat same problem, but the solution > given seems not > >> to work for us. > >> > >> Are there no any other Tapestry 4.1.1. applications out in > the world > >> that must support IE 6, or do they not have
Re: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
Please, go ahead and add a JIRA request for this - describing what you have in mind... Andreas Pardeike PS: I would really love to see some error checking on this. It's really hard to catch any errors resulting from asset linking problems. -- -- Andreas Andreou - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://andyhot.di.uoa.gr Tapestry / Tacos developer Open Source / JEE Consulting
Re: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
Maximilian, Now we fond another posting http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 that reports the excat same problem, but the solution given seems not to work for us. You referred to my posting. Here are comments on quotes of it: On 20 mar 2007, at 18.30, baleksandar wrote: we have almost the same problem (msie freezing, javascript errors) by using tomcat + tapestry 4.1 + MSIE. we hope maybe you could give us some hints how to solve this issue especially because i see that your web page http://www.fsbutiken.se doesn't work 100% well on msie, and i thought you are still working on the fix? did you already realize that your page sometimes returns javascript errors? Not sure if you're talking about an older version of the site. Anyway, I would be surprised to see that http://www.fsbutiken.se still does not work or give js errors. I tested and found no problems anymore. Keep in mind that it is *absolutely* necessary to empty the browser cache in IE *every time* you test. Otherwise you're hunting ghost problems... Unfortunatelly, the solution you mentioned earlier doesn't work for as - our server had all the time the compression flag turned off. the question is does it really work for you? we've tested our application using at least three client computers with same configured msie browsers. Sometimes (but not always) we got the javascript errors such "tapestry.form" object doesn't exist or the msie just start to freeze. These errors always appear in conjunction with use of tapestry SubmitLink component. we can not reproduce that... The important part here is that something is that errors like Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' most certainly are related to either a serving problem or a js script error that prevents loading (I would bet it's not a script error). So double+triple check your tomcat configuration. Also make sure you don't do any special stuff in your border component or in your @Shell configuration. Andreas Pardeike PS: I would really love to see some error checking on this. It's really hard to catch any errors resulting from asset linking problems. -- On 21 mar 2007, at 19.43, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: IE is a little less forgiving with javascript errors, so if you get one all other code will be skipped. (a lot of the time) I fixed what was a very subtle IE specific bug recently in 4.1.2-SNAPSHOT. You may try that "just to see" . ...I only have IE7 available to me right now, but should be able to get a hold of my vmware ie6 image tomorrow and take a look at what is happening after that. Have you noticed any errors happening before "not able to load package" things? On 3/21/07, Maximilian Wei?bock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have a very hard problem with a Tapestry 4.1.1 Application on Windows IE 6. We get javascript errors all the time (even if they are not reproducable on all developer machines) using IE 6. Some of the errors are: Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' On a german IE we get more or less the same errors: 'tapestry' ist undefiniert - which translates to 'tapestry' is undefined ' dojo' ist undefiniert - which translates 'dojo' is undefined Sometimes errors go so far, that IE does not react on any mouse click any more. What seems to cure the problem is ab browser refresh (pressing Ctrl F5) Now we fond another posting http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 that reports the excat same problem, but the solution given seems not to work for us. Are there no any other Tapestry 4.1.1. applications out in the world that must support IE 6, or do they not have this problem? But I can't beleve that we have a very special problem, cause we use an out of the Box Tapestry with nothing special. Any hints on this form anyone? If we can not fix this, we are in realy deep troble ... Thanks, Max - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2007 19:44 > An: Tapestry users > Betreff: Re: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing! > > IE is a little less forgiving with javascript errors, so if > you get one all other code will be skipped. (a lot of the time) > > I fixed what was a very subtle IE specific bug recently in > 4.1.2-SNAPSHOT. You may try that "just to see" . ...I only > have IE7 available to me right now, but should be able to get > a hold of my vmware ie6 image tomorrow and take a look at > what is happening after that. > > Have you noticed any errors happening before "not able to > load package" things? No, no other errors before this. And no luck with all out testing so far ... Makes me really nervouse ... > > On 3/21/07, Maximilian Wei?bock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have a very hard problem with a Tapestry 4.1.1 Application on > > Windows IE 6. > > We get javascript errors all the time (even if they are not > > reproducable on all developer machines) using IE 6. > > > > Some of the errors are: > > > > Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' > > Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > > Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' > > > > On a german IE we get more or less the same errors: > > > > 'tapestry' ist undefiniert - which translates to 'tapestry' is > > undefined ' dojo' ist undefiniert - which translates 'dojo' is > > undefined > > > > Sometimes errors go so far, that IE does not react on any > mouse click > > any more. > > What seems to cure the problem is ab browser refresh (pressing Ctrl > > F5) > > > > Now we fond another posting > > http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 > > that reports the excat same problem, but the solution given > seems not > > to work for us. > > > > Are there no any other Tapestry 4.1.1. applications out in > the world > > that must support IE 6, or do they not have this problem? > But I can't > > beleve that we have a very special problem, cause we use an > out of the > > Box Tapestry with nothing special. > > > > Any hints on this form anyone? If we can not fix this, we > are in realy > > deep troble ... > > > > Thanks, Max > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Jesse Kuhnert > Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer > > Open source based consulting work centered around > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
IE is a little less forgiving with javascript errors, so if you get one all other code will be skipped. (a lot of the time) I fixed what was a very subtle IE specific bug recently in 4.1.2-SNAPSHOT. You may try that "just to see" . ...I only have IE7 available to me right now, but should be able to get a hold of my vmware ie6 image tomorrow and take a look at what is happening after that. Have you noticed any errors happening before "not able to load package" things? On 3/21/07, Maximilian Wei?bock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have a very hard problem with a Tapestry 4.1.1 Application on Windows IE 6. We get javascript errors all the time (even if they are not reproducable on all developer machines) using IE 6. Some of the errors are: Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' On a german IE we get more or less the same errors: 'tapestry' ist undefiniert - which translates to 'tapestry' is undefined ' dojo' ist undefiniert - which translates 'dojo' is undefined Sometimes errors go so far, that IE does not react on any mouse click any more. What seems to cure the problem is ab browser refresh (pressing Ctrl F5) Now we fond another posting http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 that reports the excat same problem, but the solution given seems not to work for us. Are there no any other Tapestry 4.1.1. applications out in the world that must support IE 6, or do they not have this problem? But I can't beleve that we have a very special problem, cause we use an out of the Box Tapestry with nothing special. Any hints on this form anyone? If we can not fix this, we are in realy deep troble ... Thanks, Max - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesse Kuhnert Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tapestry 4.1.1 / dojo broken on IE? - IE freezing!
We have a very hard problem with a Tapestry 4.1.1 Application on Windows IE 6. We get javascript errors all the time (even if they are not reproducable on all developer machines) using IE 6. Some of the errors are: Could not load 'dojo.looging.Logger'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' Could not load 'tapestry.form'; last tried '__package__.is' On a german IE we get more or less the same errors: 'tapestry' ist undefiniert - which translates to 'tapestry' is undefined ' dojo' ist undefiniert - which translates 'dojo' is undefined Sometimes errors go so far, that IE does not react on any mouse click any more. What seems to cure the problem is ab browser refresh (pressing Ctrl F5) Now we fond another posting http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-IE6-freezing--tf3377078.html#a9399366 that reports the excat same problem, but the solution given seems not to work for us. Are there no any other Tapestry 4.1.1. applications out in the world that must support IE 6, or do they not have this problem? But I can't beleve that we have a very special problem, cause we use an out of the Box Tapestry with nothing special. Any hints on this form anyone? If we can not fix this, we are in realy deep troble ... Thanks, Max - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
