Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
7 years of trolling and hating. Common dude, grow up and get a life On 11/23/2013 2:50 AM, Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira wrote: +1 :-) Atenciosamente, Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira matheus@gmail.com 2013/11/22 Borut Bolčina You need professional help. That's my contribution. 2013/11/21 Emmanuel Sowah Hi guys, Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by Zeroturnaround found here: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ . This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry has failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising star with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 people. Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write a blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I would discuss include: 1. The begin 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any major release. 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. 5. When the Ship sank. 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project 5. Migration path to other web frameworks 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' projects. 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. ... I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to suggest some other points for me. I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the ones I've seen here the last few days. Please contribute. Cheers - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
+1 :-) Atenciosamente, Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira matheus@gmail.com 2013/11/22 Borut Bolčina > You need professional help. That's my contribution. > > > 2013/11/21 Emmanuel Sowah > > > Hi guys, > > > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > > Zeroturnaround found here: > > > > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > . > > > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry > has > > failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising > star > > with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. > > Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school > > and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H > > de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 > people. > > > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write > a > > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > > would discuss include: > > > > 1. The begin > > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > > major release. > > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > > 5. When the Ship sank. > > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his > clients' > > projects. > > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > > ... > > > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > > suggest some other points for me. > > > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > > > Please contribute. > > > > Cheers > > >
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
Well I am sure his imaginary friend this he is cool On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Jon Williams wrote: > Great. Let's hear what all your Anonymous Cowards have to say. > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > To my huge surprise, I've received many contributions to my upcoming blog > > post and I want to thank all of you that did that. Of course I welcome > > some more. So if you haven't sent a contribution please do so. Like the > > others did, send them to my email address. I'll keep it confidential so > no > > need to worry. > > > > I'm still working on the blog post. I will post the link here on the > > mailing list after I publish it. > > > > Again, thanks to all that mailed me their contributions. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > > > Zeroturnaround found here: > > > > > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > > . > > > > > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry > > > has failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a > rising > > > star with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult > > > following. Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just > > > finished school and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or > > people, > > > like Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by > > more > > > than 3 people. > > > > > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to > write > > a > > > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > > > would discuss include: > > > > > > 1. The begin > > > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at > any > > > major release. > > > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > > > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > > > 5. When the Ship sank. > > > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > > > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > > > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > > > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his > > clients' > > > projects. > > > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > > > ... > > > > > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > > > suggest some other points for me. > > > > > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > > > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like > the > > > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > > > > > Please contribute. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sincerely *Boris Horvat*
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
Great. Let's hear what all your Anonymous Cowards have to say. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Hi guys, > > To my huge surprise, I've received many contributions to my upcoming blog > post and I want to thank all of you that did that. Of course I welcome > some more. So if you haven't sent a contribution please do so. Like the > others did, send them to my email address. I'll keep it confidential so no > need to worry. > > I'm still working on the blog post. I will post the link here on the > mailing list after I publish it. > > Again, thanks to all that mailed me their contributions. > > Cheers > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > > Zeroturnaround found here: > > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > . > > > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry > > has failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising > > star with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult > > following. Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just > > finished school and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or > people, > > like Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by > more > > than 3 people. > > > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write > a > > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > > would discuss include: > > > > 1. The begin > > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > > major release. > > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > > 5. When the Ship sank. > > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his > clients' > > projects. > > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > > ... > > > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > > suggest some other points for me. > > > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > > > Please contribute. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > >
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
Hi guys, To my huge surprise, I've received many contributions to my upcoming blog post and I want to thank all of you that did that. Of course I welcome some more. So if you haven't sent a contribution please do so. Like the others did, send them to my email address. I'll keep it confidential so no need to worry. I'm still working on the blog post. I will post the link here on the mailing list after I publish it. Again, thanks to all that mailed me their contributions. Cheers On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Hi guys, > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > Zeroturnaround found here: > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > . > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry > has failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising > star with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult > following. Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just > finished school and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, > like Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more > than 3 people. > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write a > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > would discuss include: > > 1. The begin > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > major release. > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > 5. When the Ship sank. > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' > projects. > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > ... > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > suggest some other points for me. > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > Please contribute. > > Cheers > > >
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
LOOOL @ Thiago :D *-* *Muhammad Gelbana* http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgelbana On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Borut Bolčina wrote: > You need professional help. That's my contribution. > > > 2013/11/21 Emmanuel Sowah > > > Hi guys, > > > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > > Zeroturnaround found here: > > > > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > . > > > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry > has > > failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising > star > > with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. > > Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school > > and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H > > de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 > people. > > > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write > a > > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > > would discuss include: > > > > 1. The begin > > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > > major release. > > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > > 5. When the Ship sank. > > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his > clients' > > projects. > > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > > ... > > > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > > suggest some other points for me. > > > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > > > Please contribute. > > > > Cheers > > >
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
You need professional help. That's my contribution. 2013/11/21 Emmanuel Sowah > Hi guys, > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > Zeroturnaround found here: > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > . > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry has > failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising star > with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. > Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school > and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H > de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 people. > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write a > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > would discuss include: > > 1. The begin > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > major release. > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > 5. When the Ship sank. > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' > projects. > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > ... > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > suggest some other points for me. > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > Please contribute. > > Cheers >
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:37:11 -0200, Peter Hvass wrote: demon enclosure that is Tapestry with its patron lord of darkness Howard. I also want a cool title like that! :D -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
I came to Tapestry from Wicket after reading such a trolling email but I could never thank the guy. If it were you Emmanuel, then thank you. On Nov 22, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Lance Java wrote: >> 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his > clients' projects. > > Drink a shot! > >> 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry > > Drink a shot! > >> or Tapwickstry. > > ... and another!
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
> 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' projects. Drink a shot! > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry Drink a shot! > or Tapwickstry. ... and another!
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
You are my guiding light Emmanuel - I look forward to absorbing any and all nuggets of wisdom you post on your blog. I am so glad that finally someone with enough time on their hands has come to speak the truth about the evil demon enclosure that is Tapestry with its patron lord of darkness Howard. Yours eternally, Peter - Original Message - From: "George Christman" To: "Tapestry users" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:55 AM Subject: Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry I'd just like to say I currently use Tapestry in some very large projects without issue. I'm not sure why your wasting your time trolling this mailing list. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Hi guys, > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > Zeroturnaround found here: > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > . > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry has > failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising star > with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. > Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school > and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H > de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 people. > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write a > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > would discuss include: > > 1. The begin > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > major release. > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > 5. When the Ship sank. > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' > projects. > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > ... > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > suggest some other points for me. > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > Please contribute. > > Cheers > -- George Christman www.CarDaddy.com P.O. Box 735 Johnstown, New York
Re: The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
I'd just like to say I currently use Tapestry in some very large projects without issue. I'm not sure why your wasting your time trolling this mailing list. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Hi guys, > > Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by > Zeroturnaround found here: > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > . > > This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry has > failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising star > with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. > Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school > and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H > de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 people. > > Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write a > blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I > would discuss include: > > 1. The begin > 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any > major release. > 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* > 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. > 5. When the Ship sank. > 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project > 5. Migration path to other web frameworks > 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. > 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' > projects. > 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. > ... > > I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to > suggest some other points for me. > > I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in > order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the > ones I've seen here the last few days. > > Please contribute. > > Cheers > -- George Christman www.CarDaddy.com P.O. Box 735 Johnstown, New York
The Rise and Fall of Tapestry
Hi guys, Tapestry did not make it to a recent Web frameworks report released by Zeroturnaround found here: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ . This to me, and many others, is the clearest evidence yet that Tapestry has failed and that Tapestry is no more relevant. Tapestry, once a rising star with huge following, is reduced to rags with a very small cult following. Users of Tapestry now are mostly newbies to Java or just finished school and playing about with some home hobby projects. Or people, like Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo, who write applications not used by more than 3 people. Now, to hammer the last nails on Tapestry's coffin, I've decide to write a blog with the title: *The Rise and Fall of Tapestry*. The paragraphs I would discuss include: 1. The begin 2. How Tapestry betrayed it's users by breaking existing code base at any major release. 3. The arrogance of Howard Lewis *Ship* 4. When the 'H' in Howard became 'C' to form Coward. 5. When the Ship sank. 4. How Tapestry became a one-man project 5. Migration path to other web frameworks 6. How Tapestry would be remembered. 7. Why Howard finally embraced Wicket and started using it in his clients' projects. 8. When Tapestry became Wicketstry or Tapwickstry. ... I want to have 10 points to write about in my blog. Please feel free to suggest some other points for me. I have to mention that I will strictly moderate comments on my blog in order to filter out venomous comments from Tapestry cult trolls like the ones I've seen here the last few days. Please contribute. Cheers