Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
ow i can see now why it used *.tml thnx nick for showing me the link Nick Westgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marketing eh? Interesting idea. Here are the actual reasons from the dev list discussion: http://www.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--T5-template-extension-change-tf4502622.html 1) Use the extension .tml (Tapestry Markup Language) for Tapestry templates, rather than .html. This reflects the goal of using Tapestry to serve many kinds of markup, not just HTML (and XHTML). 2) Move web context templates from WEB-INF to / (root). This will allow relative paths to resources (images, etc.), much as in Tapestry 4. 3) Extend the TapestryFilter to block access to .tml files from the client. This addresses security concerns related to external users gaining access to raw templates (much as we are careful to block access to Java .class files via /asset). Basically the tml suffix allows templates to be protected by Tapestry outside WEB-INF while *.html files are served as static files by the container. Cheers, Nick. Penyihir Kecil wrote: i'm not saying i like unclosed tag we're not work alone man... when you're work on team everything could be happenned it's not about smart or dumb (sorry) just my humble opinion and also i think you don't have to personal attacking me it just my opinion about tapestry not personal attacking you should learn how to argue politey --- Chris Lewis wrote: If you're only real concern is that fact that you have to have well-formed documents, I'd suggest you examine your coding practices. Having unclosed tags is not smart as it will break the rendering. As far as *tml, I agree its annoying and its most likely named that for marketing reasons, but I dont use it. I use *html. chris Penyihir Kecil wrote: dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
If you're only real concern is that fact that you have to have well-formed documents, I'd suggest you examine your coding practices. Having unclosed tags is not smart as it will break the rendering. As far as *tml, I agree its annoying and its most likely named that for marketing reasons, but I dont use it. I use *html. chris Penyihir Kecil wrote: dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
i'm not saying i like unclosed tag we're not work alone man... when you're work on team everything could be happenned it's not about smart or dumb (sorry) just my humble opinion and also i think you don't have to personal attacking me it just my opinion about tapestry not personal attacking you should learn how to argue politey --- Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're only real concern is that fact that you have to have well-formed documents, I'd suggest you examine your coding practices. Having unclosed tags is not smart as it will break the rendering. As far as *tml, I agree its annoying and its most likely named that for marketing reasons, but I dont use it. I use *html. chris Penyihir Kecil wrote: dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
I didn't realize that it was a (partial) attempt at preventing the container from serving them as static. However, Use the extension .tml (Tapestry Markup Language) confirms that there is at least some degree of branding. Many frameworks do this (rhtml anyone?), and probably for several reasons, but branding is certainly one of them. PS So does that mean I must rename all of my templates to *.tml? Nick Westgate wrote: Marketing eh? Interesting idea. Here are the actual reasons from the dev list discussion: http://www.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--T5-template-extension-change-tf4502622.html 1) Use the extension .tml (Tapestry Markup Language) for Tapestry templates, rather than .html. This reflects the goal of using Tapestry to serve many kinds of markup, not just HTML (and XHTML). 2) Move web context templates from WEB-INF to / (root). This will allow relative paths to resources (images, etc.), much as in Tapestry 4. 3) Extend the TapestryFilter to block access to .tml files from the client. This addresses security concerns related to external users gaining access to raw templates (much as we are careful to block access to Java .class files via /asset). Basically the tml suffix allows templates to be protected by Tapestry outside WEB-INF while *.html files are served as static files by the container. Cheers, Nick. Penyihir Kecil wrote: i'm not saying i like unclosed tag we're not work alone man... when you're work on team everything could be happenned it's not about smart or dumb (sorry) just my humble opinion and also i think you don't have to personal attacking me it just my opinion about tapestry not personal attacking you should learn how to argue politey --- Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're only real concern is that fact that you have to have well-formed documents, I'd suggest you examine your coding practices. Having unclosed tags is not smart as it will break the rendering. As far as *tml, I agree its annoying and its most likely named that for marketing reasons, but I dont use it. I use *html. chris Penyihir Kecil wrote: dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
I was offering you a pragmatic reason for avoiding broken html at all costs. I am not arguing and was certainly not insulting you. Penyihir Kecil wrote: i'm not saying i like unclosed tag we're not work alone man... when you're work on team everything could be happenned it's not about smart or dumb (sorry) just my humble opinion and also i think you don't have to personal attacking me it just my opinion about tapestry not personal attacking you should learn how to argue politey --- Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're only real concern is that fact that you have to have well-formed documents, I'd suggest you examine your coding practices. Having unclosed tags is not smart as it will break the rendering. As far as *tml, I agree its annoying and its most likely named that for marketing reasons, but I dont use it. I use *html. chris Penyihir Kecil wrote: dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
If you switch to a 5.0.6 snapshot, yes. Cheers, Nick. Chris Lewis wrote: I didn't realize that it was a (partial) attempt at preventing the container from serving them as static. However, Use the extension .tml (Tapestry Markup Language) confirms that there is at least some degree of branding. Many frameworks do this (rhtml anyone?), and probably for several reasons, but branding is certainly one of them. PS So does that mean I must rename all of my templates to *.tml? Nick Westgate wrote: Marketing eh? Interesting idea. Here are the actual reasons from the dev list discussion: http://www.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--T5-template-extension-change-tf4502622.html 1) Use the extension .tml (Tapestry Markup Language) for Tapestry templates, rather than .html. This reflects the goal of using Tapestry to serve many kinds of markup, not just HTML (and XHTML). 2) Move web context templates from WEB-INF to / (root). This will allow relative paths to resources (images, etc.), much as in Tapestry 4. 3) Extend the TapestryFilter to block access to .tml files from the client. This addresses security concerns related to external users gaining access to raw templates (much as we are careful to block access to Java .class files via /asset). Basically the tml suffix allows templates to be protected by Tapestry outside WEB-INF while *.html files are served as static files by the container. Cheers, Nick. Penyihir Kecil wrote: i'm not saying i like unclosed tag we're not work alone man... when you're work on team everything could be happenned it's not about smart or dumb (sorry) just my humble opinion and also i think you don't have to personal attacking me it just my opinion about tapestry not personal attacking you should learn how to argue politey --- Chris Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're only real concern is that fact that you have to have well-formed documents, I'd suggest you examine your coding practices. Having unclosed tags is not smart as it will break the rendering. As far as *tml, I agree its annoying and its most likely named that for marketing reasons, but I dont use it. I use *html. chris Penyihir Kecil wrote: dunno why but i'm little bothered by the new concept of tapestry 5 based on xml if it's true...then it will has strict rules when writing html tag it has to be xml rules not html In a change from Tapestry 4, under Tapestry 5, component templates are well formed XML documents. That means that every open tag must have a matching close tag, every attribute must be quoted, and so forth. [http://tapestry.formos.com/nightly/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html] in html when we forget to close the tag it will be ok but in xml it will be show as an error secondthe type .tml it's really annoying he3x...just i will looks strange just my 2 cents Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i don't like the new tapestry 5 based on xml ?
Heh. See!? I told you it should be configurable. ;) christian. On 29-Sep-07, at 2:08 PM, Chris Lewis wrote: I didn't realize that it was a (partial) attempt at preventing the container from serving them as static. However, Use the extension .tml (Tapestry Markup Language) confirms that there is at least some degree of branding. Many frameworks do this (rhtml anyone?), and probably for several reasons, but branding is certainly one of them. PS So does that mean I must rename all of my templates to *.tml? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
