RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server
Security is not a key issue for us, over and beyond observing good general site security principles. Given that there is far from a consensus opinion on this question, I am going to stick with Apache 2.0.46 / Tomcat 5.5.7 as an integrated solution, but do some testing on Tomcat standalone as well to see how it performs. I would love to go to pure Tomcat, but I can't risk it on this particular site ... For now! I have noted the caching solutions people have suggested - they may form part of a future non-Apache solution if traffic continues to rise. Thanks everyone! Adam -Original Message- From: ALEX HYDE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 13:31 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server Adam, I think I just posted a question on nearly this same topic. I found something called Pippo for static content and would be easier to configure as it sits in Tomcat. Do you have security considerations? Have you had to add modules for securing content in Apache? Adam Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the sound of that idea - videos tend to change rarely, and are prime candidates for caching. Is anyone actually using this configuration? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Wouter Boers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2006 16:01 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server There is quite an easy sollution. Run squid as you main webserver and as a web accelator in front of your tomcat. From the squid config you can decide what your want cached and what now. I don't understand why this is not done more often since its A) a very easy sollution B) does not loose any of the funtionality tomcat can offer you C) allow to fine grain the load of tomcat completely Only downsite, the squid cache in core memory gives of course the best performance so as much memory as possible will help. On the other hand. The HTML of much sites fits easily in 500MB core memory. Regards, Wouter -Original Message- From: Adam Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:43 PM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server Hello all, I am running a reasonable sized site, on Linux Red Hat + Tomcat 5.5.7. The site is serving mainly Flash movies and servlets with streaming video through a commercial codec, plus a full HTML version of the site. Currently, I have Tomcat 5.5.7 integrated with Apache 2.0.46, which was (very) difficult to set up, and now I am looking to rebuild my server into a better configuration, I want to simplify my admin by running Tomcat on its own to serve all content. My question is this : does anyone have experience of running a 500 000 - 1 000 000 page impressions / month site, including elements such as I mention above, on Tomcat alone? I want to avoid the web server integration if Tomcat is up to it, but I would love to hear if anyone else has been successful with Tomcat standalone before I do? Many thanks! Adam This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by calling the Help Desk at +44 20 7675 9666 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by calling the Help Desk at +44 20 7675 9666 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient
RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server
Thanks George and to Tim for his answer also - George's example seems to be a reliable indicator of its capability. I am going to load test the site on a pure Tomcat install - I will let you all know how it goes ;) I would love still to hear of any other examples of pure Tomcat installs. It strikes me that if Tomcat is regarded an enterprise-class web server, as opposed to a Java content server only, it provides a lot of great answers to those of us who have to admin integrated environments. I really hope the development of Tomcat continues to shore up its Apache-like capabilities. Adam -Original Message- From: George Sexton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2006 15:10 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server -Original Message- From: Adam Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:43 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server Hello all, My question is this : does anyone have experience of running a 500 000 - 1 000 000 page impressions / month site, including elements such as I mention above, on Tomcat alone? I want to avoid the web server integration if Tomcat is up to it, but I would love to hear if anyone else has been successful with Tomcat standalone before I do? I'm running around 700,000 pages a month on a pure tomcat installation with no problems. Since I'm currently running 90+ virtual hosts, I wanted to avoid having to configure them in both Tomcat and Apache, so I went pure tomcat. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by calling the Help Desk at +44 20 7675 9666 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server
I like the sound of that idea - videos tend to change rarely, and are prime candidates for caching. Is anyone actually using this configuration? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Wouter Boers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2006 16:01 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server There is quite an easy sollution. Run squid as you main webserver and as a web accelator in front of your tomcat. From the squid config you can decide what your want cached and what now. I don't understand why this is not done more often since its A) a very easy sollution B) does not loose any of the funtionality tomcat can offer you C) allow to fine grain the load of tomcat completely Only downsite, the squid cache in core memory gives of course the best performance so as much memory as possible will help. On the other hand. The HTML of much sites fits easily in 500MB core memory. Regards, Wouter -Original Message- From: Adam Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:43 PM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server Hello all, I am running a reasonable sized site, on Linux Red Hat + Tomcat 5.5.7. The site is serving mainly Flash movies and servlets with streaming video through a commercial codec, plus a full HTML version of the site. Currently, I have Tomcat 5.5.7 integrated with Apache 2.0.46, which was (very) difficult to set up, and now I am looking to rebuild my server into a better configuration, I want to simplify my admin by running Tomcat on its own to serve all content. My question is this : does anyone have experience of running a 500 000 - 1 000 000 page impressions / month site, including elements such as I mention above, on Tomcat alone? I want to avoid the web server integration if Tomcat is up to it, but I would love to hear if anyone else has been successful with Tomcat standalone before I do? Many thanks! Adam This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by calling the Help Desk at +44 20 7675 9666 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by calling the Help Desk at +44 20 7675 9666 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using Tomcat 5.5 as a standalone web server
Hello all, I am running a reasonable sized site, on Linux Red Hat + Tomcat 5.5.7. The site is serving mainly Flash movies and servlets with streaming video through a commercial codec, plus a full HTML version of the site. Currently, I have Tomcat 5.5.7 integrated with Apache 2.0.46, which was (very) difficult to set up, and now I am looking to rebuild my server into a better configuration, I want to simplify my admin by running Tomcat on its own to serve all content. My question is this : does anyone have experience of running a 500 000 - 1 000 000 page impressions / month site, including elements such as I mention above, on Tomcat alone? I want to avoid the web server integration if Tomcat is up to it, but I would love to hear if anyone else has been successful with Tomcat standalone before I do? Many thanks! Adam This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by calling the Help Desk at +44 20 7675 9666 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
